***Official LOST Season 6 thread***

[jvirne 0]

Hurley episodes are generally pretty good too. They're not as good as Demond or Eko episodes, but they're miles better than a Kate episode.

[The Moz 69]

so who are the 6 canidates? Jack , Hurley , Jin , Syaid , Kate??? , she wasn't on the wall but was on the lighthouse

[jvirne 0]

so who are the 6 canidates? Jack , Hurley , Jin , Syaid , Kate??? , she wasn't on the wall but was on the lighthouse

 

Sawyer

[Lackman 0]

Locke, Hurley, Ford, Shepherd, Jarrah, Kwon.

[kutulu 1,680]

Locke, Hurley, Ford, Shepherd, Jarrah, Kate.

 

I hope Kate fits in there just to spite you.

[tikigods 76]

"Happily Ever After," last week's Desmond-centric episode of "Lost," set fans a'chatter -- and a'Twitter -- to perhaps a greater degree than any other episode this season.

 

Can this week's episode -- "Everybody Loves Hugo," which puts our beloved Hurley in the role of central character -- spark even more wild theorizing and endless analyzing? With only five more "Lost" episodes to follow after tonight's, I sure hope so.

 

Without further ado, here are five issues to mull over before we get some fresh perspective on the Amazing Reyes.

 

1. Why can't MIB just leave the island?

 

During the most recent "Lost" audio podcast, a reader wondered why MIB didn't just get on the sub and flee the island back in the '70s. "How is Jacob holding him there?" he asked. Carlton Cuse responded by noting that that's exactly the question the audience should be asking, while Damon Lindelof indicated that maybe all the candidates had to be assembled first. Here's another theory I'll toss out there, which we touched on last week when Liz raised the notion of imaginary prisons. Perhaps MIB actually can leave whenever he wants to, and he hasn't simply because he believes that he can't.

 

MIB is a clear symbol of the notion that men (and women) can't change who they are or, by extension, their destinies. Jacob disagrees. And notably, Jacob is the one technically holding MIB hostage. So perhaps MIB will only have the power to escape once he acknowledges that Jacob is right, and that humans have the ability to create change.

 

Kind of reminds me of a quote from a work often referenced on "Lost": "The Wizard of Oz." Just before Dorothy clicks those heels together, Glinda says, "You've always had the power to go back to Kansas." Naturally, the Scarecrow wants to know why this weird woman with the tinny voice didn't just tell her that before. Glinda's response: "Because she wouldn't have believed me. She had to learn it for herself."

 

2. The return of Michael

 

As we've seen in the promos for tonight's episode, Harold Perrineau will make a return as Michael. The question is: Is he somehow on the island again? Or is he appearing in apparition form? And regardless of the form he assumes, can he please yell "Waaalt!" just once, for old time's sake?

 

3. "Have a cluckity cluck cluck day, Hugo."

 

"Everybody Loves Hugo" is clearly a play on the title of an episode from season two: "Everybody Hates Hugo." We'll have to wait and see exactly how the two installments mirror each other. In the meantime, I want to remind us all to think about the dream sequence that opened "Everybody Hates Hugo," one in which Jin was speaking perfect English (!) and told Hurley that everything was going to change. Is that the case for Hurley tonight? Is his world about to get turned upside down? (Jorge Garcia did tell the L.A. Times that: "There's definitely a turning point about to happen.") And did that dream sequence in any way foreshadow what's happening in our parallel narratives?

 

4. Doc Jensen's controversial theory

 

Our buddy Jeff "Doc" Jensen over at EW has taken a lot of flack for suggesting that Desmond will help the Losties cross over from island world to the sideways one. But Jeff's a smart man, and I'm not so quick to dismiss this theory.

 

I think we all agree that the two narratives we currently are digesting have to come together at some point. And perhaps -- again, PER-HAPS -- part of the reason things in sideways world are almost-but-not-quite perfect is because the island world has to be surrendered. Like other readers, I also feel conflicted about ditching the island setting because it's so crucial to the show. But I also suspect that even if sideways world wins out, our Oceanic crew might somehow find themselves on the island during that last episode. Further marinating on all this is definitely needed.

 

5. Can Hurley find love?

 

One of ABC's sneak peeks for tonight's episode reveals that -- spoiler alert -- Hurley's mom sets him up on a date with a woman named Rosalita. I'm thinking that's not the chick from the Springsteen song. I am thinking that is Libby. I am also hoping that: a. something sweet and romantic happens between she and Hurley, and b. we get some inkling tonight of what Libby's back story is. Or at least enough to finally make us stop saying, "Man, I wish they'd tell Libby's back story."

[Quickolas1 80]

Or at least enough to finally make us stop saying, "Man, I wish they'd tell Libby's back story."

 

i'm hoping for this. how she was tied to giving desmond the boat and being at the asylum with hurley.

 

which makes me reminisce...how some of those first few seasons' episodes were so awesome...like libby just being there all of a sudden in the asylum (everyone watching goes WHHHHAAAAT?!) and when michael shot libby/ana lucia (OHHHH SNAP!!!).

[Vikings4ever 550]

 

Always hilarious when people blow themselves up.

[tikigods 76]

The island is Xanadu. Did anyone catch that in the mental institution?

[Lackman 0]

The final 10 seconds of an episode cannot take away from 59 minutes of boredom, looking at the clock, and watching a stinkeroo.

[Saint Elistan 106]

NO LOOP THEORY STUFF

 

It was a good episode. I'm starting to think that you belong in the looney bin.

[jets24 6]

The final 10 seconds of an episode cannot take away from 59 minutes of boredom, looking at the clock, and watching a stinkeroo.

 

You're freaking crazy. You are just determined to think that you know better and refuse to enjoy the ride. This was one of my favorite episodes. I love the intermingling of universes and the Libby remembers Hurley, etc. Stop worrying about how this thing is going to end and just enjoy. Seriously, you've lost your way here dude.

[Saint Elistan 106]

The island is Xanadu.

 

According to Wikipedia:

Xanadu was the summer capital of Kublai Khan's Yuan Dynasty in China, after he decided to move the capital of the Yuan Dynasty to Dadu, present-day Beijing.

But I'm sure it's actually a reference to "Project Xanadu". From the official download site of this program:

XanaduSpace allows you to work with parallel documents-- pages connected side-by-side by many connections. When you open the program you will see an eleven-page example to explore. The foreground shows two connected pages in readable position.

Wiki on Project Xanadu:

Project Xanadu was the first hypertext project, founded in 1960 by Ted Nelson; it is still ongoing. Administrators of Project Xanadu have declared it an improvement over the World Wide Web, saying "Today's popular software simulates paper. The World Wide Web (another imitation of paper) trivialises our original hypertext model with one-way ever-breaking links and no management of version or contents."[1] Wired magazine called it the "longest-running vaporware story in the history of the computer industry". The first attempt at implementation began in 1960, but it was not until 1998 that an implementation was released, and this was incomplete.

 

*shrug*

 

Always fun to find the references the writers make. I didn't catch the name when watching, but judging by what I found I guess ya got it right.

Not sure if it's anything but a reference though. Just another reaffirmation of what the two "universes" really are.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,447]

You're freaking crazy. You are just determined to think that you know better and refuse to enjoy the ride. This was one of my favorite episodes. I love the intermingling of universes and the Libby remembers Hurley, etc. Stop worrying about how this thing is going to end and just enjoy. Seriously, you've lost your way here dude.

 

 

The writing is getting sloppy and emotional. Part of the reason I stopped watching this series after season two. I keep looking at my watch as the time goes by during the show this past season , realizing that the answers that need to be answered, will not be. The oldest story in the world has been done over, and over, and over! This series had a chance to be original. I don't see it with Lost anymore. The storyline is what makes this show good. Not the over the top love interests. Kate smiling at Jack and Ford's bravado made tonights episode a bit lame. During this scene, I kept looking at my watch wondering why there are only a few minutes left and just as few episodes left whilst cursing the commercials that go forever.

 

 

 

Just my opinion. Great show that looks to dissapoint. And the writers don't care. Just like they did'nt or the producers did'nt in the beginning of the series.

[Saint Elistan 106]

Holy Fock...I took a screen shot of what this program looks like. Exploring documents in 3D is...awesome!

 

Check it!

[Voltaire 5,317]

It was a good episode. I'm starting to think that you belong in the looney bin.

 

Well of course he does, he's homocidal. Fortunatly for us, the authorities haven't caught on to him yet.

[tikigods 76]

According to Wikipedia:

 

But I'm sure it's actually a reference to "Project Xanadu". From the official download site of this program:

 

Wiki on Project Xanadu:

*shrug*

 

Always fun to find the references the writers make. I didn't catch the name when watching, but judging by what I found I guess ya got it right.

Not sure if it's anything but a reference though. Just another reaffirmation of what the two "universes" really are.

 

I rewatched it...it wasn't Xanadu but all over the walls were pictures of islands. Meh...interesting episode though. Desmond is some kind of threat to MIB....he obviously knows something about John Locke.

[tikigods 76]

also...has it ever rained on the island?

[Voltaire 5,317]

also...has it ever rained on the island?

 

Yes. Season one quite often. I remember correctly predicting it.

[supermike80 1,923]

The writing is getting sloppy and emotional. Part of the reason I stopped watching this series after season two. I keep looking at my watch as the time goes by during the show this past season , realizing that the answers that need to be answered, will not be. The oldest story in the world has been done over, and over, and over! This series had a chance to be original. I don't see it with Lost anymore. The storyline is what makes this show good. Not the over the top love interests. Kate smiling at Jack and Ford's bravado made tonights episode a bit lame. During this scene, I kept looking at my watch wondering why there are only a few minutes left and just as few episodes left whilst cursing the commercials that go forever.

 

 

 

Just my opinion. Great show that looks to dissapoint. And the writers don't care. Just like they did'nt or the producers did'nt in the beginning of the series.

 

I don't 100% agree with this. while the story and the direction has always been interesting, the show, for me has almost always been watchable. There are good characters that we care abouteither love or hate) and there is good writing, good acting, good production. I always felt like the storyline was secondary but important. Now, of course as the show winds down, the story line becomes all encompassing, as it shoudl...but the show was always a good watch even if they didn't always answer questions.

[Voltaire 5,317]

Didn't Hurley mention "The Human Fund" of Seinfeld fame as a charity he works with?

 

I thought the actress that played Libby was done with Lost, upset that her character was murdered. I guess that spat is over with.

 

I'm glad Hurley is talking to MIB. They need to iron things out. This all seems like a big understanding.

[jvirne 0]

While it was an ok episode, two things didn't sit right with me -

 

1. Why does Hurley think speaking to Locke is a good idea? This comes from NOWHERE, and runs contrary to everything Hurley is about. The only explanation is he's listening to Michael. But as far as we know, Michael only told him to not blow up the plane. And why the hell would Hurley listen to Michael? Because he's dead? Are you kidding me? So now he'd rather listen to Michael then Jacob?

 

2. The whispers are explained as dead people trapped on the island. While this lends motivation to Michael wanting to help MIB get off the island (this, I presume, will uncork the bottle and let everyone off), it totally FAILS to explain the connection between the whispers and the Others. In the first couple seasons the whispers always heralded the presence of the Others. They were connected. Now?

[jvirne 0]

Xanadu is also the topic of a very famous poem by Romantic poet Samuel Coolridge, titled "Kubla Khan."

 

It was inspired by an opium dream.

 

It describes the perfect place on earth, a utopian city of sorts.

 

In Xanadu did Kubla Khan

A stately pleasure-dome decree :

Where Alph, the sacred river, ran

Through caverns measureless to man

Down to a sunless sea.

So twice five miles of fertile ground

With walls and towers were girdled round :

And there were gardens bright with sinuous rills,

Where blossomed many an incense-bearing tree ;

And here were forests ancient as the hills,

Enfolding sunny spots of greenery.

 

But oh ! that deep romantic chasm which slanted

Down the green hill athwart a cedarn cover !

A savage place ! as holy and enchanted

As e'er beneath a waning moon was haunted

By woman wailing for her demon-lover !

And from this chasm, with ceaseless turmoil seething,

As if this earth in fast thick pants were breathing,

A mighty fountain momently was forced :

Amid whose swift half-intermitted burst

Huge fragments vaulted like rebounding hail,

Or chaffy grain beneath the thresher's flail :

And 'mid these dancing rocks at once and ever

It flung up momently the sacred river.

Five miles meandering with a mazy motion

Through wood and dale the sacred river ran,

Then reached the caverns measureless to man,

And sank in tumult to a lifeless ocean :

And 'mid this tumult Kubla heard from far

Ancestral voices prophesying war !

The shadow of the dome of pleasure

Floated midway on the waves ;

Where was heard the mingled measure

From the fountain and the caves.

It was a miracle of rare device,

A sunny pleasure-dome with caves of ice !

A damsel with a dulcimer

In a vision once I saw :

It was an Abyssinian maid,

And on her dulcimer she played,

Singing of Mount Abora.

Could I revive within me

Her symphony and song,

To such a deep delight 'twould win me,

That with music loud and long,

I would build that dome in air,

That sunny dome ! those caves of ice !

And all who heard should see them there,

And all should cry, Beware ! Beware !

His flashing eyes, his floating hair !

Weave a circle round him thrice,

And close your eyes with holy dread,

For he on honey-dew hath fed,

And drunk the milk of Paradise.

[Lackman 0]

We just concluded the LOST water cooler dissection of last nights episode here at work. The consensus: the episode was anywhere from OK to below average. On the heels of 2 of the last 3 episodes being the Richard and Desmond epics, this one fell flat.

 

Of my many issues with this episode, you bring back the mysterious Libby. She gave a boat to Desmond. She recognized Hurley from the same mental hospital. She lied about being a psychiatrist. She seems to like Hurley, then gets murdered. And you don't answer a single mystery about her. Nada. Zip. None. Zero. You bring her back to kiss Hurley. And that's it. Tick, tick, tick, tick. That sound is time running out. Focking assh0les. Giving us love stories, not conclusions.

[kutulu 1,680]

Giving us love stories.

 

I told you morons this last week.

[Lackman 0]

2. The whispers are explained as dead people trapped on the island. While this lends motivation to Michael wanting to help MIB get off the island (this, I presume, will uncork the bottle and let everyone off), it totally FAILS to explain the connection between the whispers and the Others. In the first couple seasons the whispers always heralded the presence of the Others. They were connected. Now?

 

Not true. When I re-watched every episode prior to this season, I was specifically looking for patterns for the whispers. About half the time, you could say it signaled the presence of the Others. The other half signaled the presence of MIB or a manifestation of some sort. There was no discernible pattern, much to my frustration. For example, Hurley heard the whispers just before he was accosted by Jacob's cabin in Season 4. The Others were not around for that supernatural act of a cabin moving around the island.

[Lackman 0]

I told you morons this last week.

 

No. The two executive jackasses of the show, Cuse and Lindenoff told us this months ago in a newspaper article. The show is about relationships. I hoped that they were kidding.

[kutulu 1,680]

Yes. The two executive jackasses of the show, Cuse and Lindenoff told us this months ago in a newspaper article. The show is about relationships. I hoped that they were kidding.

 

Just cause you never had one is no reason to start not liking the show.

[IAMWood 6]

No. The two executive jackasses of the show, Cuse and Lindenoff told us this months ago in a newspaper article. The show is about relationships. I hoped that they were kidding.

 

Lackman, you... you LackLUSTA.

 

[Lackman 0]

Just cause you never had one is no reason to start not liking the show.

 

While relationships enter my life as often as Halley's Comet, I never said I no longer liked the show. Is it driving me crazy this year with the cringe inducing dialogue, cliches, and focus on Cupid's Arrows? Sure. Is this arguably the weakest season so far? Maybe. But it's still a very watchable show, one that I will see to the end.

[kutulu 1,680]

I never said I no longer liked the show.

 

I make up sh1t as I go...just like the writers on LOST.

[CantTouchThis 23]

I liked this episode a lot Desmond in the flash sideways was the key to the whole episode. He is manipulating that time-line to try to help those in the other timeline...or trying to get the 2 timelines to join...who knows.

 

I think killing Locke in the other time-line is key, why we don't know yet. Maybe Locke, the real Locke, gets transferred to the other time-line. As a ghost, or re-takes over his own body. Either way, it's to screw over MIB

 

Also, MIB is manipulating Hurley. No doubt about it. Michael has to be working for MIB, or something similar to that. OR Hurley is working for MIB in some way. I just get the impression that Hurley is playing into what MIB wants. MIB wanted Jack, Hurley, and Sun. Hurley lead them right to him, and not only that, he got the non-candidates to dis-join them. I don't think blowing up the plane is the answer either. Now all MIB needs is Jin back. Then he can destroy all the candidates and take over the world, or w/e.

 

Definitely a WTF episode really. Llana blowing up sucked and was awesome at the same time.

[kutulu 1,680]

I liked this episode a lot.

 

Llana blowing up sucked and was awesome at the same time.

 

I agree...but I like pretty much all the episodes. A bad LOST is still better than 99% of the crap on TV, IMO.

 

Yeah, it was cool seeing someone get blow up Doc Artz style, but she did have some nice juggs that will be missed.

[jvirne 0]

Not true. When I re-watched every episode prior to this season, I was specifically looking for patterns for the whispers. About half the time, you could say it signaled the presence of the Others. The other half signaled the presence of MIB or a manifestation of some sort. There was no discernible pattern, much to my frustration. For example, Hurley heard the whispers just before he was accosted by Jacob's cabin in Season 4. The Others were not around for that supernatural act of a cabin moving around the island.

 

Nice. Thanks for the correction.

[Kopy 570]

Does anyone know the title's of the remaining episodes, or what they might be about?

[kutulu 1,680]

Does anyone know the title's of the remaining episodes, or what they might be about?

 

link

 

The last one is just being called "The End"

[Kopy 570]

link

 

The last one is just being called "The End"

[Vikings4ever 550]

I think killing Locke in the other time-line is key, why we don't know yet. Maybe Locke, the real Locke, gets transferred to the other time-line. As a ghost, or re-takes over his own body. Either way, it's to screw over MIB

I don't think Desmond killed Locke. I think he was giving Locke a near death experience to make him aware of the other timeline, like Charlie did to him. Since Locke doesn't have a piece of tail in the alternate timeline.

[kutulu 1,680]

I don't think Desmond killed Locke. I think he was giving Locke a near death experience to make him aware of the other timeline, like Charlie did to him.

 

And he'll have to go see Dr. Jack after all

[CantTouchThis 23]

link

 

The last one is just being called "The End"

 

 

I don't think Desmond killed Locke. I think he was giving Locke a near death experience to make him aware of the other timeline, like Charlie did to him. Since Locke doesn't have a piece of tail in the alternate timeline.

 

Ahhhhhhh, gotcha. Yeah, like i said i think all of them will become aware and...i dunno what will happen but it will greatly effect the outcome of the series.