***Official LOST Season 6 thread***

[jvirne 0]

Aaron's head becomes the new Island.

 

[CantTouchThis 23]

I liked Keamey in season three when I thought he was one-dimensional dumb homocidal muscle. This ruthless, polite, smarmy mafioso Keamey is my favorite part of the flash sideways. I suppose it's because he's at the center of all the violence.

 

Also, there's a reason MIB's name is never mentioned and that reason is : we already know it. I'm almost certain it's going to be Aaron.

 

For a long time I thought there was a reason the writers introduced the Bernard/Rose story and that Rose would be a major part of the show at some point. I now realize Rose/Bernard were a waste of time.

 

IF MIB = Aaron my head with explode...but that would be awesome. Wait, i just remembered MIB said Jacob took his body, and Jacob kind of looks like a grown up Aaron. Dude, you just may be on to something. MIB and Jacob are actually from the future, and are now going through the loops. I think it's a combo of your theory and Lacky's Loops theory.

[kutulu 1,680]

Sun's "package"

[edjr 6,608]

Sun's "package"

 

they would have had to look long and hard to find an uglier chick to play Sun

[kutulu 1,680]

they would have had to look long and hard to find an uglier chick to play Sun

 

 

Neck down ,she's fine...face like a frying pan hit it, though.

[RicemanX 20]

Neck down ,she's fine...face like a frying pan hit it, though.

Perfect way to describe it.

[edjr 6,608]

[edjr 6,608]

[tikigods 76]

In a world where time travel is legit, anything is possible I suppose.

 

I don't buy MIB = Aaron at all, but I suppose it's possible.

 

EDIT: the one thing that may support this is the appearance of the blond boy to MIB. Some thought he was Jacob, but I don't think so. The boy told him what he couldn't do. It was informing him of the rules. I think it was the island itself, the same entity as Christian and (fake) Walt.

 

So who was the boy though? It could be Aaron. It could be a young version of MIB himself. It could be both.

 

Somewhere in this thread I posted I thought Jacob was Aaron....and like in most threads on FFT I was ignored.

[posty 2,705]

Episode Title: (#611) "Happily Ever After"

Time Slot: 9:00 PM-10:00 PM EST on ABC

 

Dominic Monaghan Guest Stars as Charlie

 

Jeremy Davies Guest Stars as Daniel Faraday

 

"Happily Ever After" - Desmond wakes up to discover he's back on the island, on "Lost," TUESDAY, APRIL 6 (9:00-10:02 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

[RLLD 4,254]

 

"jesus stay-puff....we thought you were another gawd dayam polar bear!" lmfao

[RLLD 4,254]

[RLLD 4,254]

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Philly will like the Yankees one...just for the "shut your ###### mouth" line.

Though, strangely, action figure Jack is a better actor than the real one.

[kutulu 1,680]

Not a spoiler, but a "theory" about Jacob, MIB, the island, bootle, cork, wine etc. I found somewhat interesting...

 

 

 

 

With all the “hell”/”island prison” theories going around, I rewatched the “cork in the bottle” scene, trying to identify what is what. Given that Jacob is using an allegorical metaphor and he specifically says: “the island is the cork,” then a few possibilities are ruled out:

 

1) Jacob himself is not the cork.

2) MIB is not the cork.

3) The bottle is not the cork.

 

I think that #3 is particularly important. Many people seem to be operating on the assumption that the island is a “prison” (for MIB, or ‘evil’). The bottle itself is the prison, the cork simply blocks the exit.

 

Given that Jacob said that the wine represents “hell, evil, malevolence”, the wine may or may not represent MIB himself. (It could, but it could also just refer to the evil deeds he inspires, etc.) People have questioned whether MIB can appear off-island (as Christian, etc.) if he is trapped on the island. People also ask why there is so much evil that happened to the Losties (and all of us) in the real world, if MIB is contained on the island.

 

I believe that MIB is not trapped on the island, but trapped on Earth. I believe our world is the bottle, throughout which MIB and Jacob can both freely travel. MIB does not so much want to leave the island; he wants to leave our earthly plane of existence.

 

Biblically, when Satan is cast out of heaven, he is sent down to earth. Maybe, in Jacob’s allegory, this world (the bottle) is where evil (the wine) belongs. Maybe “heaven” is where MIB wants to return to, and the only way to do it is by destroying the world itself (ie. smashing the bottle).

 

[edjr 6,608]

"jesus stay-puff....we thought you were another gawd dayam polar bear!" lmfao

 

[Lackman 0]

Desmond episodes always rule.

[Quickolas1 80]

a desmond episode...

no surprise it was...

 

TIGHT!!

[Saint Elistan 106]

"I need to show them something..."

 

What a great show that was. Wonder how he's going to show them...Desmond gonna have to choke a b!tch?

[jvirne 0]

Desmond episodes are always awesome.

 

[Voltaire 5,317]

Episode Title: (#611) "Happily Ever After"

Time Slot: 9:00 PM-10:00 PM EST on ABC

 

Dominic Monaghan Guest Stars as Charlie

 

Jeremy Davies Guest Stars as Daniel Faraday

 

"Happily Ever After" - Desmond wakes up to discover he's back on the island, on "Lost," TUESDAY, APRIL 6 (9:00-10:02 p.m., ET) on the ABC Television Network.

 

Hmmm.... a lot of those flashbacks from Desmond jumping around, we'll get those again.

[Lackman 0]

6.10 The Package

 

Keamy proceeds to tape up Jin and go on a long rambling speech, given to someone who doesn’t understand English. Keamy: Just in case you forgot what’s about to happen on the island, can’t have you freaking out.” Say what? I rewound, and rewound, and rewound. This was dialogue that looked spliced in at the “island” part, and consider that sentence. Here is Keamy talking about strapping Jin in because of what’s going to happen on the island. Freighter exploding, perhaps, that threw Jin into the water? It’s as if Keamy knows stuff, super secret stuff. Or the two timelines are bleeding together, and this was some kind of merging point. But this is definitely 2004, not the current 2007 that the Losties and various other groups are a part of. Very, very odd...

 

Which characters on this show have been able to hold onto their relationship in both time lines? Maybe Rose and Bernard? We don’t know about Desmond and Penny. Anyone? ..

W: Everybody would simply cease to be. Interesting choice of words. Not “die” but “cease to be”. Almost like saying you can die in one time line, but cease to be in many timelines. Maybe. As we’ve speculated in the past, especially around the time Sayid shot Ben in the heart, and the wound in the next episode was two feet away in another part of his chest. The island is an intersection of timelines, a merging, a very powerful point the many worlds that exist. The actions here affect many lives and many versions of the same lives. Maybe I’m just having another Mr Drinky McDrinkalot moment. Loops still happen, I’m almost sure.

 

 

Not new theories, but I'm glad I referenced them recently.

[Lackman 0]

From 6.1 LA X Part One

The LOST co-executive producers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse have gone on record saying that there will be no alternate time lines in this series. So, this week must have been confusing for the literalists out there. Seems like these guys may have been honest after all. What we have here are dual timelines. I don’t think they would go to so much trouble to show us what would have happened if the plane never crashed and still continue the complicated story line of Jacob and MIB without a proper resolution, so I have to accept at this time dual realities. If you have narrow stream flowing, literally a stream in the woods, then drop a huge rock in the middle of it, a rock bigger than the stream itself, there is a possibility that the stream will split in two separate forks, and go in two entirely different directions around the boulder. Doesn’t mean that one stream is present reality and the other is the alternate time line. It just means that both forks exist, and both are as equally real. It also doesn’t mean that at some point both forks can’t merge to become one stream again, on the other side of the boulder. Does this end my multiple loop theory. Not at all. This was an explanation for Seasons 1-5. I was expecting Season 6 to be anything goes. As the LAX fork continues, we see many, many differences in details from Season One’s Oceanic 815. Changes have certainly happened, and this time they are blatantly obvious. But a reset has happened, as expected. The Losties land in Los Angeles. What we didn’t anticipate was that the bomb most likely triggered a split in the time stream, and we have that reset, but we also have the Losties in 2007, because Jacob still needs them, and they cannot leave. Nothing is that simple, is it?

 

From 6.1 LA X Part One

Desmond is on the plane, which is very unexpected. The mention of the word “brother” triggers a recollection in Jack, who queries Desmond if they have met before. Another notable thing about this scene is that Desmond is flashing what appears to be a wedding ring. There is zero way of knowing who he might be married to. Maybe Penny, maybe the girl he was engaged to before running off and joining the monastery, or somebody else.

 

This is troubling. Desmond clearly was wearing a ring in the season opener. Last night, we find out he is single. What the fock? Loop or continuity error?

[CantTouchThis 23]

FINALLY a flash sideways that has relevance. When i figured out it was going to be almost all flash sideways, i thought this would be a snoozer. Nope, instead it a major turning point. Desmond, Charlie, Eloise and Daniel are all special; i wonder if all the others are and just don't know it yet. My guess is eventually the dual timeline with destroy itself, how that will happen we don't know.

[The Moz 69]

no clue what to think now. Eloise is obviously aware of the dual timelines. Just a total wtf episiode not sure if i liked it or not as though it seems the alt became more important still nothing about it is really known.

[kutulu 1,680]

I thought it was an excellent episode...course I was pretty shitfaced. Read it was written by the big dogs (Cuse and Lindelof) which usually results in the better shows. I'll be doing the rewatch later today, sober.

[tikigods 76]

Just watched it on DVR.

 

I think Desmond realizes he needs MIB to get the "I'm married to Penny" time line back in play. Widmore/Eloise obviously are the keys to this whole thing.

 

Also...I saw a black guy on the island. Was this Walt's father?

[cbfalcon 825]

The end battle may not only be free will vs fate, but also battle for which reality wins out. Maybe Jacob and MIB each even become aligned with a certain time line. Unsure.

 

Eventually the primary players have all the information and they have to make a choice. Some characters may prefer the plane crashing on the island. Others may fight for the reality in which the plane lands at LAX.

[JerkStore 13]

Just watched it on DVR.

 

I think Desmond realizes he needs MIB to get the "I'm married to Penny" time line back in play. Widmore/Eloise obviously are the keys to this whole thing.

 

Also...I saw a black guy on the island. Was this Walt's father?

 

I saw that too (it was Michael, Walt's father) and thought WTF, he's dead in the island timeline. Then I remembered it looked like he was talking to Hurley alone, which means it is probably just Hurley talking to a dead person once again.

[RicemanX 20]

MRI guy to Desmond in reference to pressing the panic (Failsafe?) button... "try not to, we'll have to start all over again from the beginning"

[Saint Elistan 106]

I think Desmond realizes he needs MIB to get the "I'm married to Penny" time line back in play. Widmore/Eloise obviously are the keys to this whole thing.

 

Desmond has no idea who MIB and Jacob are in either Timeline. And, obviously, he still thinks Sayid is a good guy. He's never been involved in that part of the story. Besides, the only "timeline" that the MIB is featured in, Desmond already has Penny.

[tikigods 76]

Desmond has no idea who MIB and Jacob are in either Timeline. And, obviously, he still thinks Sayid is a good guy. He's never been involved in that part of the story. Besides, the only "timeline" that the MIB is featured in, Desmond already has Penny.

 

Not sure I agree. The electromagnetic pulse seemed to connect both parallels. Desmond is going to be on Team MIB.

[Saint Elistan 106]

Not sure I agree. The electromagnetic pulse seemed to connect both parallels. Desmond is going to be on Team MIB.

 

How can he be on "Team MiB" when he doesn't even know who the fock the MiB is? He's the only person on the entire Island who could be described as a Neutral Party in the War.

 

The Book Desmond was reading on the plane was:

"Haroun and the Sea of Stories". It is described as follows: In Rushdie's humorous and tender novel, Haroun is the 12-year-old son of a famous storyteller. When his father loses his powers of invention, Haroun takes charge, and sets out on a series of adventures that, against all odds, will bring his skills back.

Desmond is the "tool" that will "connect the parallels"; not some coils on the Island. So instead of "connecting both parallels", I'll go with the magnetism restoring Desmond's powers (seeing the future and moving his consciousness throughout places in time) since the fail-safe was what awakened these powers in the first place. Which may explain his sudden change in attitude with Island-Whidmore. Perhaps Desmond is getting glimpses of the future again...which would explain why he wasn't surprised when Sayid burst from the bushes and pwned his escorts. Which begs the question...if he IS seeing the future again, is he trying to change something? Or going with the flow?

 

Either way, there's still no way that Desmond knows anything about the MiB/Jacob saga and what's happened to Sayid/Claire.

[OakHeadFootball 1]

I like the painting in Alt Widmore's office.

 

It took me a while to remember where George fit in.

 

Definitely going to re watch this one tomorrow.

[cgod 0]

Perhaps Desmond is getting glimpses of the future again...which would explain why he wasn't surprised when Sayid burst from the bushes and pwned his escorts. Which begs the question...if he IS seeing the future again, is he trying to change something? Or going with the flow?

 

Either way, there's still no way that Desmond knows anything about the MiB/Jacob saga and what's happened to Sayid/Claire.

 

The (seemingly) knowing look and ease with which Desmond acquiesced to Sayid's request in spite of Desmond's decision to help Widmore and circumstances of Sayid's appearance definitely suggest to me that something more is at play here.

[shotsup 832]

sober.

 

[tikigods 76]

The (seemingly) knowing look and ease with which Desmond acquiesced to Sayid's request in spite of Desmond's decision to help Widmore and circumstances of Sayid's appearance definitely suggest to me that something more is at play here.

 

I agree. He saw more than we know during the pulse. His decision to go with Sayid said volumes.

 

He was single, yet had a ring on is finger during LAX part 1.

[IAMWood 6]

I assume everyone noticed Eloises' look of surprise and the fact she recognized Desmond. The Widmores are trying to keep Desmond and Penny apart, but why? They want the LAX timeline?

[Lackman 0]

I assume everyone noticed Eloises' look of surprise and the fact she recognized Desmond. The Widmores are trying to keep Desmond and Penny apart, but why? They want the LAX timeline?

 

I think it has something to do with Eloise trying to manipulate events into a timeline where she doesn't shot and kill her own son, Daniel. She has gone to great lengths to course correct and manipulate events to some end, and at this point I seriously doubt it's to help either Jacob or MIB. She may very well have fooled Widmore into helping by dangling a carrot of ruling the island or some other side benefit coming from harnesseding the negatively charged matter inhabiting the island.

 

She is trying to keep Desmond away from Daniel, Penny's half sister, which becomes an issues of simple proximity when you are dating the half sibling of someone. Daniel and Desmond are forever linked as constants through multiple realities and/or loops. And Eloise knows it, from reading Daniel's journal.

 

I don't have all the pieces of that puzzle together yet, but there are a lot of motivations at work right now.

[kutulu 1,680]

 

Actually ended up drinking again and haven't done the rewatch yet.