Happy Semi-Annual Time Warp$#@!

[Frozenbeernuts 2,264]

4 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

I guess you are dumbass too according to this guy:

 

 

I normally use my phone for my alarm, but I wasn't using it at that time for some reason.

[jerryskids 6,799]

17 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

I always figured they'd keep standard time, because that's the worse.

Can the DC do that? Some states don't follow DST so I'm not sure who has the authority. 

According to the article, states at the time had the option of opting out.  AZ was one of them.  For us I would think it is easy — we would stay on MST but call it PDT, so we’d be with California.  Most of my career I’ve worked for Silicon Valley based companies so that would be a good thing.  I currently however am a channel partner for an east coast company; we’ll see how the 3 hour difference goes now that we are on DST, I may have some early mornings moving forward.  

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

According to the article, states at the time had the option of opting out.  AZ was one of them.  For us I would think it is easy — we would stay on MST but call it PDT, so we’d be with California.  Most of my career I’ve worked for Silicon Valley based companies so that would be a good thing.  I currently however am a channel partner for an east coast company; we’ll see how the 3 hour difference goes now that we are on DST, I may have some early mornings moving forward.  

You want to be on the western side of the time zone and not the eastern side. It stays daylight much further into the evening.

 

Arizona would be much better off using Mountain Time zone.

[jerryskids 6,799]

53 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

You want to be on the western side of the time zone and not the eastern side. It stays daylight much further into the evening.

 

Arizona would be much better off using Mountain Time zone.

The theory is that we don’t want daylight further into the evening in the summer, because it is very hot.  As I stated earlier in the thread tho, it is all relative and people shift their schedules accordingly.  

[Cdub100 3,909]

32 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

The theory is that we don’t want daylight further into the evening in the summer, because it is very hot.  As I stated earlier in the thread tho, it is all relative and people shift their schedules accordingly.  

The daylight further into the evenings is what most people like here in Michigan. I can see why that wouldn't work for AZ

[jerryskids 6,799]

Just now, Cdub100 said:

The daylight further into the evenings is what most people like here in Michigan. I can see why that wouldn't work for AZ

I dunno, I used to go to the Yoop every summer, trying to get kids to bed when it is still light out at 10PM, no thanks.

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

58 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

The theory is that we don’t want daylight further into the evening in the summer, because it is very hot.  As I stated earlier in the thread tho, it is all relative and people shift their schedules accordingly.  

Houston is hot in the summer, but I still like that daylight in the evenings. Gives more time to do stuff after work.

[KSB2424 3,148]

It's antiquated.  Not sure why we do this anymore.

[Cdub100 3,909]

57 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I dunno, I used to go to the Yoop every summer, trying to get kids to bed when it is still light out at 10PM, no thanks.

The UP is a whole nother level.

[jerryskids 6,799]

35 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

The UP is a whole nother level.

Driving up I75, about 3/4 of the way up the lower peninsula, you pass a sign marking the 45th parallel.  It always amazed me that that spot was equidistant from the equator and the North Pole.  The equator was focking far from there.  The North Pole seemed like maybe a few hours.   

[OldMaid 2,130]

On 3/14/2021 at 1:58 PM, jerryskids said:

There is a bill before the Senate to make DST permanent:

https://www.almanac.com/content/stopping-daylight-saving-time

We voted and passed something similar over 2 years ago here in Cali. It still hasn’t taken effect.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Time is but a number.  There shouldn't even be time zones.  

You wake up at dawn, eat dinner at dusk and go to bed after dark.  Who gives a fock what some number says on a clock?  Adjust accordingly depending on where you are on the earth to what "number" that says.  

[OldMaid 2,130]

35 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Time is but a number.  There shouldn't even be time zones.  

You wake up at dawn, eat dinner at dusk and go to bed after dark.  Who gives a fock what some number says on a clock?  Adjust accordingly depending on where you are on the earth to what "number" that says.  

That’d make it pretty hard to schedule anything. But aside from that, who gives a fock, right?

[KSB2424 3,148]

16 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

That’d make it pretty hard to schedule anything. But aside from that, who gives a fock, right?

The work meeting is at 1:00 PM.  Meeting scheduled.  1:00pm is the same for everyone, who cares where we are on the earths rotation.  

That really wasn't hard.  Now that might be a morning meeting for you on the west coast and a mid afternoon meeting for me on the east, but okay, still wasn't hard.  

I don't think you've really....really though this through.  

[Thornton Melon 620]

Daylight Savings Time is racist.

[OldMaid 2,130]

8 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

The work meeting is at 1:00 PM.  Meeting scheduled.  

That really wasn't hard.  Now that might be a morning meeting for you on the west coast and a mid afternoon meeting for me, but okay, still wasn't hard.  

I don't think, you've really....really though this through.  

I had to go  back and reread that. I thought you were suggesting we do things based off of sunrise/sunset and that there was no clock involved. That last sentence was kinda vague and confusing. My bad. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

22 minutes ago, OldMaid said:

I had to go  back and reread that. I thought you were suggesting we do things based off of sunrise/sunset and that there was no clock involved. That last sentence was kinda vague and confusing. My bad. 

Gotcha.

Let me try to articulate my thought.  It takes 365.25 days for earth to orbit the sun, hence why we consider a full year as one orbit, then you throw in the leap year to make up the 0.25 day.  What a cool way for people of Earth to define time....one orbit around the sun is X.  I'm 45 years old, my old ass has been around the sun over 45 times....kinda cool.  

Now one day is one rotation of the earth as it moves along its rotation of the sun.  Sunrise to sunrise if you will....cool.  I think we all get that.

Now....stop.  That is where we should stop when counting time because there is nothing else to rotate.  Anything more is Human Beings being pretentious, so we are going to arbitrarily assign random numbers based on the rotation of the earth during the rotation around the orbit of the sun?  Talk about over-engineering.  Not only that, but apropos to this thread, we will adjust twice a year some random daylight saving time.  Somebody had way to much time on their hands.  

One year = One orbit

One day = One rotation of Earth

3:00pm in Sacramento or Detroit or NJ is focking 3:00pm.  Dependent on the sunrise and sunset is when you work, live, sleep and play.  Time is but a number.  

[jerryskids 6,799]

40 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Gotcha.

Let me try to articulate my thought.  It takes 365.25 days for earth to orbit the sun, hence why we consider a full year as one orbit, then you throw in the leap year to make up the 0.25 day.  What a cool way for people of Earth to define time....one orbit around the sun is X.  I'm 45 years old, my old ass has been around the sun over 45 times....kinda cool.  

Now one day is one rotation of the earth as it moves along its rotation of the sun.  Sunrise to sunrise if you will....cool.  I think we all get that.

Now....stop.  That is where we should stop when counting time because there is nothing else to rotate.  Anything more is Human Beings being pretentious, so we are going to arbitrarily assign random numbers based on the rotation of the earth during the rotation around the orbit of the sun?  Talk about over-engineering.  Not only that, but apropos to this thread, we will adjust twice a year some random daylight saving time.  Somebody had way to much time on their hands.  

One year = One orbit

One day = One rotation of Earth

3:00pm in Sacramento or Detroit or NJ is focking 3:00pm.  Dependent on the sunrise and sunset is when you work, live, sleep and play.  Time is but a number.  

I still don’t get it.  Are you saying get rid of time zones?  It’s 8PM here now; is it 8PM in Dubai?   

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 hour ago, OldMaid said:

I had to go  back and reread that.

 A few sentences you needed to work harder to understand. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I still don’t get it.  Are you saying get rid of time zones?  It’s 8PM here now; is it 8PM in Dubai?   

Yes, correct.  

Or we could continue to keep slicing up the earths rotation with arbitrary numbers  and its 8pm in Phoenix and 7:30pm in Vegas.  Where does it stop? 7:15 in L.A. too?  I mean, they are behind the rotation.....

Because, well people are used to waking up at dawn so that "number" has to be the same?

[KSB2424 3,148]

I went off on a tangent.  Bottom line is this:  We can split time up all we want, but at the very focking least lets keep it consistent.  Going back and forth an hour in America  twice a year is antiquated and stupid.  Pick one for God's sake.   I pick the one that has the most daylight but that's just me, I'm not a Vampire. 

 

 

[jerryskids 6,799]

Sorry for the late bump.  With all of the recent discussion about the location problem with time travel, hopefully none of you woke up in the middle of a boulder after your time warp.   

[fandandy 3,313]

Happy Time Warp Day  

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

19 states have referendums to dump it.

[fandandy 3,313]

I have a referendum to dump 19 states.

This thread is nothing without this day.

[kutulu 1,677]

Hour BACK - get it? 

[KSB2424 3,148]

END THIS MADNESS

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

Boom...like a hammer!!

[jerryskids 6,799]

8 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

Boom...like a hammer!!

Bumping this is my job!   

Hope you all enjoyed losing an hour of your life.  POOF$#@!  All gone, just like that.  

Sucks for my daughter who just started a job working remotely for a company in Minnysoeta; she's not exactly a morning person and now her conference calls will be 2 hours ahead instead of one.   

[jerryskids 6,799]

In case anyone wants to know how bad DST is for your health:

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Daylight saving time: How 'springing forward' affects your mind and body

Elise Solé

Sat, March 12, 2022, 7:00 AM·5 min read

 

Daylight Saving Time starts at 2 a.m. on Sunday, March 13, when we set the clocks forward and lose one hour of sleep. And while the centuries-old practice allows us to enjoy the sunlight more (we'll do it again on Nov. 6, setting the clocks back to reclaim that hour), it messes with our wellbeing.

Why is "springing forward" so impactful? "Most people don't have an hour to spare," Dr. Rafael Pelayo, clinical professor of the Sleep Medicine Division at Stanford University's School of Medicine, tells Yahoo Life. "America is sleep-deprived to begin with, so losing that hour disrupts the length and quality of rest."

REM, the phase of sleep where dreams happen and memory and learning function form, occurs during the last third of the night, says Pelayo. An additional disruption interferes with circadian rhythms (our evolutionary instinct to detect dawn or dusk) and makes us sleepier and disoriented. Here's more on why daylight saving time can be difficult.

Driving becomes more dangerous

A January 2020 Current Biology study of 732,835 U.S. accidents from 1996 to 2017 found that fatal car accidents increased by 6 percent (28 deaths per year) during the week of the time change, due to fatigue and driving in the dark.

The study found that the farther west a person lives, the likelier they are to be involved in a deadly crash because those in western regions experience more circadian disruptions due to the sun rising later in the day.

Study author Celine Vetter, assistant professor of integrative physiology at the University of Colorado Boulder, told ScienceDaily, "Our study provides additional, rigorous evidence that the switch to daylight saving time in spring leads to negative health and safety impacts. These effects on fatal traffic accidents are real, and these deaths can be prevented."

You might be distracted at work

Watch your internet habits on the Monday after daylight saving time — that's when people spend more time on websites like Facebook, YouTube and ESPN, says a study published in the Journal of Applied Psychology. These entertainment-based inquiries — dubbed "cyberloafing" by researchers — had "considerably" higher search volume on the Mondays after the time change. "One limitation is that we don't know for sure whether people were at work or whether their entertainment searches were work-related," study author Chris Barnes, associate professor of management at the University of Washington, tells Yahoo Life.

A separate study conducted by Facebook in 2014 found a "significantly increased usage" of the word “tired” written in posts the week of the time change, along with spikes in the words "sleepy" and "exhausted."

Workplace injuries are more common

Losing that hour can be dangerous if you work in a job that requires physical labor, found a 2009 study from the Journal of Applied Psychology. Barnes, who authored the study, examined half a million injuries among mineworkers over a period of five years and concluded that on the Monday after daylight saving time — "Sleepy Monday" — injuries increase by more than 5 percent and are more severe. "The ability to control intention, make decisions and focus on tasks suffers that day because sleep deprivation affects the brain’s prefrontal cortex," Barnes tells Yahoo Life. But in the fall, when the clocks are set back, there are no major differences in the number or degree of injuries.

Your heart attack risk rises

There's a 24 percent increase in the number of heart attacks on the Monday after the clocks change, according to a study published in the BMJ journal Open Heart, compared to a 21 percent reduction on the Tuesday after we change the clocks back.

Study author Dr. Amneet Sandhu, assistant professor of medicine-cardiology at the University of Colorado Denver, told ScienceDaily, "What's interesting is that the total number of heart attacks didn't change the week after daylight saving time. But these events were much more frequent the Monday after the springtime change and then tapered off over the other days of the week. It may mean that people who are already vulnerable to heart disease may be at greater risk right after sudden time changes."

Another piece of research found a 10 percent increase in heart attacks on the Monday and Tuesday following the time change. That risk declined by 10 percent in November. Study author Martin E. Young of the Division of Cardiovascular Diseases at the University of Alabama, Birmingham said in a press release, “Exactly why this happens is not known but there are several theories. Sleep deprivation, the body’s circadian clock and immune responses all can come into play when considering reasons that changing the time by an hour can be detrimental to someone's health."

You might miss a doctor's appointment

People are significantly more likely to miss their scheduled doctor's visit during the week of daylight saving time in March, found a study of more than two million medical appointments published in The Journal of Biological and Medical Rhythm Research. The reverse was true when transitioning out of daylight saving time in November. Researchers guessed that disrupted sleep patterns could throw people off but acknowledged that reasons for non-attendance weren't known.

All that said, for the states that participate (Hawaii and most of Arizona opt out) there are advantages to changing the clock in March: People can enjoy more outdoor activities, for example, and there is a 2.9 percent reduction in criminal assault on the subsequent Monday (lethargy doesn't motivate criminals, said the researcher), while robbery rates for the day fall by 7 percent.

According to the National Sleep Foundation, you can ease into the transition by going to bed about 20 minutes earlier each night leading up to the change and trying sleeping in an extra 30 minutes on the first morning of the time change.

This story was originally published on March 6, 2020, at 3:44 p.m. ET. and has been updated.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/daylight-saving-time-springing-forward-affects-mind-body-140011843.html?.tsrc=1013

[jerryskids 6,799]

As I type it is 11:12AM on the east coast.  24 hours ago it was 12:12PM.  You all gained an hour through a wormhole or something, congrats%$#@!

Also I realized that I've been providing this PSA twice per year for over 10 years.  I'm geek of the decade!  Minus an hour of course.  Or plus.  I get so confused.   

[Bier Meister 1,710]

It was nice to get the extra hour this morning. Hit the grocery store early with nobody there.  Fantastic!

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

Finally it will stay lighter longer again.

[seafoam1 3,031]

On 3/16/2021 at 12:23 AM, KSB2424 said:

I went off on a tangent.  Bottom line is this:  We can split time up all we want, but at the very focking least lets keep it consistent.  Going back and forth an hour in America  twice a year is antiquated and stupid.  Pick one for God's sake.   I pick the one that has the most daylight but that's just me, I'm not a Vampire. 

 

 

I'm all in on different time zones. 100% as a matter of fact. It helps to know when it's day or night in other parts of the country/world.

I am not in on the 1 hour time changes twice a year in the least though. That should be thrown out. 

[TommyGavin 790]

Is the last one ? Are we going to join Skids and stay in the same timeline ??? Hope so. 

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

Ohio proposed it but it is stuck in the house I think

[jerryskids 6,799]

I woke up around 7am this morning.  Body clock wise tho, it felt like... 7am.  The rest of you lost an hour.  Poof!  

[TommyGavin 790]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I woke up around 7am this morning.  Body clock wise tho, it felt like... 7am.  The rest of you lost an hour.  Poof!  

When you are a drunk you don’t even notice the loss. Or so I’m told. 

[Drizzay 722]

"Daylight savings is racist!"

- some snowflake somewhere, probably