Self Defense Killing in Florida...Geeks got an opinion?

[nikki2200 4]

More than anything. It is the Geek Club, after all.

 

I understand. I just needed to go off on a tangent inspired by you because I really really hate the F word.

[nikki2200 4]

I should say not. You seem to carry yourself as one of the privileged white broads from The Help.

 

I've lived in the city for close to 20 years. Your views seem more in line with the outskirts of white trash than the people that actually live in the city.

[nikki2200 4]

Moms can size ? She hot ? She like no neck electricians ? Her Facebook page ?

 

 

Trust me... you want nothing to do with that shiit.

[KSB2424 3,174]

That's a fair point. But some guys sure do seem to be bending over backwards to find things wrong with most of what we do know at this juncture.

Well sure, that's what happens here. Even if people don't have a dog in the fight, they ususally start cheering for one of the dogs anyway. Its more fun to pick a side. Know what I'm sayin'?

[phillybear 366]

I understand. I just needed to go off on a tangent inspired by you because I really really hate the F word.

 

As long as people walk around this country banning language, and use euphemisms like N-word, F-word, R-word, etc, I make a point of using the original word constantly. That's why I am such a great American, fighting for truth, justice, and AIDS jokes.

[phillybear 366]

I've lived in the city for close to 20 years. Your views seem more in line with the outskirts of white trash than the people that actually live in the city.

 

20 years? Pfft. Carpetbagger.

[MDC 8,084]

I've lived in the city for close to 20 years. Your views seem more in line with the outskirts of white trash than the people that actually live in the city.

 

It's pretty typical of neighborhoods like Mayfair and Tacony in the Northeast. The people there are so damn proud of the fact that all of their neighbors are white! Except that all their neighbors are uneducated fat welfare slobs in cheesesteak stained wifebeaters.

 

Give me black people in hoodies, please.

[Mike Honcho 5,543]

OK. You wanna know what you assfock? Now I'm going to go all libtard on all of you. My father is the most amazing man I have ever met in my life. He treated my mother like a goddamm princess, but it was never enough for her. She is a focking ###### who never worked a day in her life, yet constantly complained that they weren't rich enough and how much her life sucked. My dad sat there and took it all. He put my sister and I through Ivy League schools. He worked his focking ass off to make sure we were successful and had the best future ahead of us. He never complained... he did what he thought was his job as father and provider of the family.

 

And... shockingly... after decades of doing this... it turns out he is gay. He was so afraid of the societal implications and prejudices of being gay that he pretended his whole life to be a hetereosexual male to fit in and do what he thought he needed to do, especially according to his religion.

 

He was diagnosed with leukemia a few years ago. He doesn't have much longer to live. And that was what made him change his outlook and decide to stop living a lie and be who he was and who he was born as. And he is living his last few years as he probably should have his whole life.

 

The black guy I saw him with... the one I thought was his boyfriend... that guy is a great friend of his that he counselled from suicide. My dad has now dedicated his free time to working with a help group that helps gay men deal with their sexuality and understand that they can live with it without killing themselves. He is much older than the majority of the men in that group and he acts as a father/mentor to them to help them to get through the rough times of dealing with their homosexuality and the effects it has on their family relationships and their personal well being.

 

So basically... if you guys want to use the F word and make jokes and do whatever it is you do behind the comfort of your keyboards... none of you will ever be half the man my dad is. Not by a long shot.

 

 

[phillybear 366]

It's pretty typical of neighborhoods like Mayfair and Tacony in the Northeast. The people there are so damn proud of the fact that all of their neighbors are white! Except that all their neighbors are uneducated fat welfare slobs in cheesesteak stained wifebeaters.

 

Give me black people in hoodies, please.

 

The Northeast doesn't even start until you cross over Cottman Avenue. Go back to Fishtown, you bum.

[MDC 8,084]

The Northeast doesn't even start until you cross over Cottman Avenue. Go back to Fishtown, you bum.

 

Mayfair and Tacony are both in the lower Norhteast.

 

You already admitted that half your block is unemployed. That's pretty typical Northeast Philly - a bunch of fat, ugly, white losers milking the system for a check and sitting around congratulating themselves for not being black.

 

Parts of Fishtown and Port Richmond are the same way. You'd think people so racist wouldn't also be bloodsucking ignorant loser trash.

[phillybear 366]

Mayfair and Tacony are both in the lower Norhteast.

 

You already admitted that half your block is unemployed. That's pretty typical Northeast Philly - a bunch of fat, ugly, white losers milking the system for a check and sitting around congratulating themselves for not being black.

 

Parts of Fishtown and Port Richmond are the same way. You'd think people so racist wouldn't also be bloodsucking ignorant loser trash.

 

Yeah, I live the snooty part of the city. Our streets are paved in gold, our dogs pick up their own sh!ts, our air doesn't smell like crack. You couldn't afford to rent a cardboard box up here, not like we wouldn't give you the thrashing of a lifetime if you showed up. We don't appreciate racists like you around here.

[redtodd 7]

It's pretty typical of neighborhoods like Mayfair and Tacony in the Northeast. The people there are so damn proud of the fact that all of their neighbors are white! Except that all their neighbors are uneducated fat welfare slobs in cheesesteak stained wifebeaters.

 

Give me black people in hoodies, please.

 

This is different from the rest of the white people in Philly how?

[MDC 8,084]

Yeah, I live the snooty part of the city. Our streets are paved in gold, our dogs pick up their own sh!ts, our air doesn't smell like crack. You couldn't afford to rent a cardboard box up here, not like we wouldn't give you the thrashing of a lifetime if you showed up. We don't appreciate racists like you around here.

 

I can afford to own a house and a car, you basement dwelling misanthropic bus-riding loser.

 

Don't worry, never in a million years would I want to live in Northeast Philly. It's like a particularly sh1tty part of Queens NY or Long Island - all the crap you get in any major city without any of the good parts.

[jerryskids 7,192]

Well sure, that's what happens here. Even if people don't have a dog in the fight, they ususally start cheering for one of the dogs anyway. Its more fun to pick a side. Know what I'm sayin'?

I initially said he should be tried, then backed off to "wait and see." I haven't posted much in this thread because I'm... waiting and seeing.

 

What I think we're seeing in this thread is a backlash from the initial media bias -- pictures of a 13 year old Martin kissing unicorns, NBC blatantly misrepresenting the 911 call, white latino... some people see the bias, others choose not to.

[phillybear 366]

I can afford to own a house and a car, you basement dwelling misanthropic bus-riding loser.

 

Don't worry, never in a million years would I want to live in Northeast Philly. It's like a particularly sh1tty part of Queens NY or Long Island - all the crap you get in any major city without any of the good parts.

 

I could sell your moped, trailer hitch, and shanty with 3 square tires for 27 bucks at the pawn shop, Joe Dirtier.

[MDC 8,084]

I could sell your moped, trailer hitch, and shanty with 3 square tires for 27 bucks at the pawn shop, Joe Dirtier.

 

The only part of this that's true is the pawn shop right near your basement apartment. It's probably next to a liquor store, methadone clinic and check-cashing depot.

[mobb_deep 921]

As more and more information comes out about this case, it's pretty obvious that this Zimmerman dude is guilty of at least manslaughter. Unfortunately, Florida has some backwoods laws that make it ok to do so.

[phillybear 366]

The only part of this that's true is the pawn shop right near your basement apartment. It's probably next to a liquor store, methadone clinic and check-cashing depot.

 

Of course I have a basement. When I leave my car in the car port, I need to make my way underground to the elevator to take me to one of the floors of my dwelling. That's only if my spiral staircase is being polished at the time.

 

After they re-possessed your jalopy, or rather, set it on fire to spare the towing costs, do you now find yourself riding your bicycle on the expressway, for old time's sake? How often do you get hit in the head with a half full Slushie from a passing car?

[DankNuggs 305]

As a matter of fact, I've done a personal scientific experiment and I've concluded that black kids in hoodies are more likely to be polite to me than normal white people. I go to the corner gas station store a block from my house at least once a day to pick up soda, etc. Without fail, the black guys, even the hoodie ridden teenage thugs always hold the door for me and are polite. Some times they seem to be stoned. But compared to the white people who the majority of the time slam the door in my face, I always love the black "hoods" better.

How fat is your rear end?

[DankNuggs 305]

As more and more information comes out about this case, it's pretty obvious that this Zimmerman dude is guilty of at least manslaughter. Unfortunately, Florida has some backwoods laws that make it ok to do so.

He may not be guilty of anything, the law itself is really poor, especially in this type of situation...

 

 

Case of the guy with the stolen bag of radios, dude chases him down with a knife and stabs him in the chest, bag of radios is a deadly weapon? Its a ridiculous law. This case is about a bad law, its not about race or anything else.. .

[drobeski 3,061]

I initially said he should be tried, then backed off to "wait and see." I haven't posted much in this thread because I'm... waiting and seeing.

 

What I think we're seeing in this thread is a backlash from the initial media bias -- pictures of a 13 year old Martin kissing unicorns, NBC blatantly misrepresenting the 911 call, white latino... some people see the bias, others choose not to.

/thread

[mobb_deep 921]

He may not be guilty of anything, the law itself is really poor, especially in this type of situation...

 

 

Case of the guy with the stolen bag of radios, dude chases him down with a knife and stabs him in the chest, bag of radios is a deadly weapon? Its a ridiculous law. This case is about a bad law, its not about race or anything else.. .

 

I agree for the most part. It really is a poorly written law.

 

I think the part I struggle with is Zimmerman "initiated" (for lack of a better word) the confrontation. He started following the kid and continued doing so, even after the police advised him do otherwise. I think we can safely assume that the kid said something to the effect of "you got a problem!?" "why you following me?!" etc. etc. That triggered some sort of physical confrontation that ended up in a shooting. Everything else is really just hearsay at this point. The interviews his father and other friends/family members are giving sure aren't helping him though...

[nikki2200 4]

Mayfair and Tacony are both in the lower Norhteast.

 

You already admitted that half your block is unemployed. That's pretty typical Northeast Philly - a bunch of fat, ugly, white losers milking the system for a check and sitting around congratulating themselves for not being black.

 

Parts of Fishtown and Port Richmond are the same way. You'd think people so racist wouldn't also be bloodsucking ignorant loser trash.

 

This post made me lol.

 

Congratulating themselves for not being black. It's so true.

[phillybear 366]

This post made me lol.

 

Congratulating themselves for not being black. It's so true.

 

Are you trying to infer that just because I live on the city limits in the Far Northeast, that no black people live there? Isn't that the thought process of a raging racist, even more racist than your 24 page diatribe against Latinos? We already MDC know is an idiot; when his boss tells him to go grab a stenopad, he goes scratching his balding head, trying to find a dinosaur. You on the other hand, have you no shame?

[MDC 8,084]

Are you trying to infer that just because I live on the city limits in the Far Northeast, that no black people live there? Isn't that the thought process of a raging racist, even more racist than your 24 page diatribe against Latinos? We already MDC know is an idiot; when his boss tells him to go grab a stenopad, he goes scratching his balding head, trying to find a dinosaur. You on the other hand, have you no shame?

 

No, YOU be the phillybear, idiot!

[nikki2200 4]

Are you trying to infer that just because I live on the city limits in the Far Northeast, that no black people live there? Isn't that the thought process of a raging racist, even more racist than your 24 page diatribe against Latinos? We already MDC know is an idiot; when his boss tells him to go grab a stenopad, he goes scratching his balding head, trying to find a dinosaur. You on the other hand, have you no shame?

 

I'm saying every piece of evidence points to you sitting on your stoop with your gut hanging out and a cheese whiz stain on your shirt bitching about how black people are ruining everything.

 

Case closed!

[phillybear 366]

I'm saying every piece of evidence points to you sitting on your stoop with your gut hanging out and a cheese whiz stain on your shirt bitching about how black people are ruining everything.

 

Case closed!

 

I don't sit on stoops. I am fairly svelte and without a gut. I haven't eaten cheese in years and especially abhor cheese whiz; I eat healthy. I do laundry. In general, I don't socialize with my neighbors. And above all else, I try hard to stay away from two subjects as fodder for humor: religion and ethnicity. I do, however, defend all people in many issues, most notably speech. So, you are completely wrong about everything. Go back to jerking off at the thought of your daddy being split in half.

 

[Vikings4ever 570]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/trayvon-martin-police-report-reveals-crime-scene-details-175656087.html

 

A partially-redacted police report detailing the initial investigation in the Feb. 26 shooting death of Trayvon Martin has surfaced.

 

Reuters reporter Matthew Keys first posted scanned copies of the report to his Twitter account. As the Chicago Tribune noted, the report contains details that conflict with several rumors surrounding the case.

 

The report states that George Zimmerman's gun "was placed into evidence" and not returned to him, and the scene of the shooting was secured with crime scene tape. This directly conflicts with statements made by civil rights activists, including Rev. Jesse Jackson, who had claimed the Sanford, Fla., police department "didn't even bother to put yellow tape around the murder scene when he died--that's how much the police did to find out what happened to this young boy."

 

Part of the police report

[Recliner Pilot 61]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/trayvon-martin-police-report-reveals-crime-scene-details-175656087.html

 

 

 

Part of the police report

Surely you don't expect us to believe Jesse Jackson would lie to whip up his followers into a rage?

[BunnysBastatrds 2,705]

So how do you feel about the "conservative" media inaccurately posting shiit from twitter accounts and photos that actually were not from Trayvon Martin?

 

 

I think it's BS I think ALL media is BS today. I also think it's BS that the media is so fawking double standard that it can get away with calling a hispanic, white. I'll be looking forward to next years congressional elections where they call hispanic candidates white.

[SUXBNME 1,625]

:periodpants:

[drobeski 3,061]

[parrot 790]

I seriously can't believe this thread is at 23 pages.

 

The FBGs thread is at 133.

 

Just saw this

 

Meatwad a Phurfur alias?

 

i miss that cranky old welfare queen

 

 

[redtodd 7]

Surely you don't expect us to believe Jesse Jackson would lie to whip up his followers into a rage?

 

They didn't record Zimmerman's weight.

[kutulu 1,724]

George Zimmerman reportedly has an experienced criminal defense attorney in his corner now.

 

The Neighborhood Watch volunteer who says he shot an unarmed teenager, Trayvon Martin, in self-defense Feb. 26 had been represented by a solo practitioner, Craig Sonner, who had never defended anyone accused of homicide.

 

But late Tuesday, veteran criminal defense attorney Craig Uhrig told Orlando television station WOFL that he was joining the case. Uhrig often works with Sonner, the Orlando Sentinel reported.

 

Zimmerman, 28, has not been charged, but the case is under investigation by state and federal authorities. He is citing Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law, which allows someone to shoot rather than retreat if he or she feels threatened.

 

On the night that Martin, 17, was shot to death, Zimmerman called police to report him as a suspicious person walking through a gated neighborhood in Sanford, Fla. He followed the youth, who was on his way back to the home of his father's fiancee, who lived in the gated neighborhood. Martin was carrying Skittles, an iced tea and a cellphone.

 

A police dispatcher told Zimmerman there was no need to follow Martin. When the pair got into an altercation, neighbors called police to report a fight. The fatal shot can be heard during a 911 call.

 

Zimmerman told police he had lost track of Martin, who reappeared and confronted him. He says Martin punched him in the nose and slammed his head into the pavement.

 

Uhrig told WOFL he is sure Zimmerman is telling the truth, in part because Zimmerman passed a voice-stress test administered by Sanford police.

 

~latimes.com

[IGotWorms 4,063]

A defense attorney who swears his client is innocent? You don't say!

[Recliner Pilot 61]

A defense attorney who swears his client is innocent? You don't say!

An "attorney" who has tried, convicted, and sentenced someone to life in prison based solely on media reports. Many of which have had to issue retractions and apologies for the way they mislead the public......ya don't say. :lol:

[parrot 790]

A defense attorney who swears his client is innocent? You don't say!

 

I was still reeling from the cop who wanted to charge someone with a crime!

[IGotWorms 4,063]

I was still reeling from the cop who wanted to charge someone with a crime!

 

 

Well played

[penultimatestraw 473]

Surprise!

Americans are sharply divided by race in their opinion of the shooting of an unarmed black teenager in Florida by a Hispanic neighborhood watchman.

 

A Gallup/USA Today poll finds that most black Americans (73 percent) think Trayvon Martin's shooter, George Zimmerman, would have been arrested if Martin had been white.

 

Only 33 percent of non-Hispanic white people said the same thing.

 

The racial divide on Zimmerman's guilt was also big: 51 percent of black people said Zimmerman is "definitely guilty" based on the information available, compared to only 10 percent of whites. About 20 percent of both whites and blacks said Zimmerman was "probably guilty."

 

Zimmerman told police that he was following Martin because he looked "suspicious" when the unarmed 17-year-old then attacked him. Zimmerman said he shot Martin in self-defense. He hasn't been charged. Martin's family says Zimmerman followed and then attacked and shot Martin in an act of vigilante policing.

 

An earlier Pew Research Center poll found that only 16 percent of black people said there had been too much media coverage of the shooting, compared to 43 percent of white people. The Gallup poll of more than 3,000 adults has a margin of error of plus or minus 2 percentage points.