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***The Official Seattle Seahawks 2013 Offseason Thread***

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Whoever is lining up in the slot for us is going to cause havoc.

 

What is a defense going to do with Wilson, Lynch and Harvin in the backfield?

 

I'm trying not to get ahead of myself, but DAYUM! :shocking:

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That looks cool, have to check it out at home, no sound on the work PC.

 

It reminds me of a funny text I got from a coworker a few years back. You opened the attachement and it turned your phone volume to max and started screaming "I'm looking at gay porn!"

 

It was funny when it happened to someone else <_< ...at work...during our morning staff meeting...

 

I am starting to get mad all over again and this was 5 years ago.

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All your free agents belong to us.

 

So, Michael Bennett is now added to the D line, not sure if he is going to play DE, DT, or both. The front office is curb stomping our need areas into toothless pulp and, on paper, this is by FAR the most talented Seattle Seahawks team ever assembled. I can't begin to describe the euphoria, hoping against all hope I will see a Super Bowl win before I die. It's getting close, folks. We STILL have cap room. But I suspect we will drop somebody or two. I don't really care. This has been an outstanding offseason, acquiring supremely talented players cheaply and signing them to lower than market prices. It's like have fish jumping into your boat, players wanting to compete for a ring, salary be damned. Such a unprecedented feeling for a Seattle Seahawks fan.

 

Edit: Michael Bennett will play Defensive Tackle. Awesome. Focking Awesome.

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All your free agents belong to us.

 

So, Michael Bennett is now added to the D line, not sure if he is going to play DE, DT, or both. The front office is curb stomping our need areas into toothless pulp and, on paper, this is by FAR the most talented Seattle Seahawks team ever assembled. I can't begin to describe the euphoria, hoping against all hope I will see a Super Bowl win before I die. It's getting close, folks. We STILL have cap room. But I suspect we will drop somebody or two. I don't really care. This has been an outstanding offseason, acquiring supremely talented players cheaply and signing them to lower than market prices. It's like have fish jumping into your boat, players wanting to compete for a ring, salary be damned. Such a unprecedented feeling for a Seattle Seahawks fan.

 

Edit: Michael Bennett will play Defensive Tackle. Awesome. Focking Awesome.

:overhead: :banana: PC & JS have taken a scorched earth approach to this offseaon. Eat that harbaugh!!

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:overhead: :banana: PC & JS have taken a scorched earth approach to this offseaon. Eat that harbaugh!!

 

Right now I think we're going into the draft needing a LB who can play right away.

 

A TE and T who we can even sit on for a year, and develope slowly.

 

And a Kicker.

 

Anything else would be for depth or eventual replacements.

It's not gonna be an exciting draft. But what a position to be in.

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Great googly moogly. We have an embarrassment of riches. Solid starters and more often than not, solid backups at skill positions.

 

QB: RW with Flynn as backup (I am assuming we keep him just in case something happens to RW...remember Kirk Cousins last year for the Skins?)

RB: Beast with Turbin as backup.

WR: Harvin and Rice with Tate, Baldwin and possibly Obo or Charly Martin as backups.

TE: Miller with McCoy as backup...upgradeable

OL: Okung, McQuistan, Unger, Moffitt/Sweezy, Giacomini. We could use an upgrade at RT. You could probably make an argument that whomever loses RG between Moffitt and Sweezy could start at LG and then McQuistan becomes backup depth.

DL: a sorcerer's brew of Avril, Bennett, Mebane, Big Red, Irvin, and possibly Branch, McDonald, Scruggs. Plus Clemons when he recovers from his ACL. Plus maybe Jaye Howard if Dan Quinn can coax something approximating talent out of his carcass. That's possibly 10 guys for a rotation before we even get to draft picks (which we will see, probably at DT).

LB: KJ Wright, Wagner, and Hill's replacement. Upgradeable for Hill and backup guys are ok but not same level, I don't think.

DB: Sherm, Browner, ET, Kam. Thurmond, Lane, Guy and Jeron Johnson as backups. Looks good.

 

So...having feasted on the finest meats and cheeses in all the land, I now want a DT, a pass catching TE to pair with Miller. A replacement OLB for Hill. A replacement RT for Giacomini. And a 3rd RB in case one of Beast or Turbin gets hurt. We have five picks between the 2nd and 5th rounds. Go get 'em JS!

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Remember Michael Bennett from 2009? He's back. Had 9 sacks last year too!

 

You know who doesn't remember him. Former General Manager Tim Ruskell, who cut him to keep a 2nd kicker on the roster. :doh:

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At this point, I'm OK with trading this year's draft picks for future draft picks. I mean, how many of these picks are we realistically expecting to make the team? A situation San Fran is going to have to realize too. So, trade down, trade for the future, or maybe package and move up. Just don't waste the picks.

 

I talked to my Eagles fan neighbor tonight, apparently hibernating for the winter with most Eagle fans. I tried to explain my enthusiasm for this week's Seattle moves and how Vegas has instilled the Seahawks as co-favorites to win the Super Bowl. He called me full of sh!t and that Seattle sucked and still didn't have a real QB.

 

Yep. We are still flying under the radar. Somehow. :thumbsup:

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At this point, I'm OK with trading this year's draft picks for future draft picks. I mean, how many of these picks are we realistically expecting to make the team? A situation San Fran is going to have to realize too. So, trade down, trade for the future, or maybe package and move up. Just don't waste the picks.

 

I talked to my Eagles fan neighbor tonight, apparently hibernating for the winter with most Eagle fans. I tried to explain my enthusiasm for this week's Seattle moves and how Vegas has instilled the Seahawks as co-favorites to win the Super Bowl. He called me full of sh!t and that Seattle sucked and still didn't have a real QB.

 

Yep. We are still flying under the radar. Somehow. :thumbsup:

Good point. I would even be ok with packaging a #1 next year to move up and grab a DT. Oh tell MDC I said hello :overhead:

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I love how Rob Staton over at Seahawks draft blog has described the Seahawk offseason:

 

This isn’t the kind of reckless ‘dream team’ spending that created a mess in Philadelphia. This is cold, calculated domination.

 

:banana: :overhead:

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Oh lordy are the Seahawks having an outstanding FA signings. Avril and Bennett on board now after the Harvin coup.

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Oh lordy are the Seahawks having an outstanding FA signings. Avril and Bennett on board now after the Harvin coup.

Talk about your moon landings.

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At this point, I'm OK with trading this year's draft picks for future draft picks. I mean, how many of these picks are we realistically expecting to make the team? A situation San Fran is going to have to realize too. So, trade down, trade for the future, or maybe package and move up. Just don't waste the picks.

 

I talked to my Eagles fan neighbor tonight, apparently hibernating for the winter with most Eagle fans. I tried to explain my enthusiasm for this week's Seattle moves and how Vegas has instilled the Seahawks as co-favorites to win the Super Bowl. He called me full of sh!t and that Seattle sucked and still didn't have a real QB.

 

Yep. We are still flying under the radar. Somehow. :thumbsup:

 

I'd say we do use our 2 and 3. But after that, I can see us dishing out for next year.

 

I'm curious to find out whats up with Branch. I think bringing back Hauschka (how ever you spell that?) is worth a couple year deal too.

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I'd say we do use our 2 and 3. But after that, I can see us dishing out for next year.

 

I'm curious to find out whats up with Branch. I think bringing back Hauschka (how ever you spell that?) is worth a couple year deal too.

The Hawks signed K Carson Wiggs March 5th. I'm not sure Hauschka wil be back. Not crazy about Branch but at the right proice, why not, bring him back. I think Jaye Howard is going to play a role this year along with a rookie draft pick. Just my gut.

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You fags get your SB XLVIII Winning Seahawk rain ponchos in the mail yet? :banana:

With just our luck. We'll need one of those. Along with a south park "Kenney" snorkel coat.

 

Dominate the season. Breeze through the playoffs with home field advantage.

The greatest season we've ever had. Then the outdoor superbowl smacks us right in the kisser, and we get destroyed.

<_< Ahh, the life of a seahawk fan. <_<

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The Hawks signed K Carson Wiggs March 5th. I'm not sure Hauschka wil be back. Not crazy about Branch but at the right proice, why not, bring him back. I think Jaye Howard is going to play a role this year along with a rookie draft pick. Just my gut.

Yep, who knows? Like I said in an earlier post.

If a kicker, and potential depth is our biggest worries. :thumbsup: Kudos!!!

 

You think (or anyone else here). Think we extend some contracts this year?

Next year will be a pretty big year if we just let everything play out.

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With just our luck. We'll need one of those. Along with a south park "Kenney" snorkel coat.

 

Dominate the season. Breeze through the playoffs with home field advantage.

The greatest season we've ever had. Then the outdoor superbowl smacks us right in the kisser, and we get destroyed.

<_< Ahh, the life of a seahawk fan. <_<

 

That's right. The Superbowl is in New Jersey. Fock, I could actually attend the game, if they make it that far.

 

Better start putting money aside for the scalped tickets and bail money for drunk and disorderly conduct.

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WR Ben Obomanu cut. He stuck around for 7 years, but was not going to get time as a WR and was relegated to exclusively a special teams player making too much money.

 

Saves about 2.5 million to this year's cap.

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WR Ben Obomanu cut. He stuck around for 7 years, but was not going to get time as a WR and was relegated to exclusively a special teams player making too much money.

 

Saves about 2.5 million to this year's cap.

 

Sit Obo sit. Good dog.

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Cliff Arvil was given Leroy Hill's jersey number. So...it's safe to say goodbye to OLB Leroy Hill.

 

I'm now wondering how the line will look in the future. Meaning Bennett, who is strong vs the run and creating a pass rush is like a better version of Red Bryant. So he could actually play DE on running downs, and then move inside to DT on passing downs. Could Arvil play DE on certain downs and maybe even drop back as a LB for certain formations.

 

Maybe on rushing downs, you see Bennett, Mebane, Branch resigned/draftpick/unknown, and Arvil.

Maybe on passing downs, you see Irvin, Mebane, Bennett, Arvil.

Maybe situationally, you go Irvin, Mebane, Howard/McDonald, Bennett, with Arvil playing WIL and coming in blitzing after a stunt.

 

The possibilities are endless. And that's without considering a possible Clemons contribution later in the season.

 

The Tampabay fans went nuts after Bennett got signed away for such a cheap contract. They say he was by far their best pass rusher. About a week ago, Bennett said that the defensive scheme TB runs makes it very hard to get to the QB. So, Bennett wasn't happy with not getting sacks, so he moved to a scheme that he liked more, with a coach he played under before, to try to up his stats and get a good FA deal next year. Good news this year, he was cheap and is super motivated to perform.

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not likely. Why would JS do this? Cap hit isn't big enough to warrant it and he's a productive guy who completely buys into the whole 'always compete' mantra. Nope. Not seeing it. Unless the argument is that he's not healthy enough to keep, and if that's the case, his trade value can't be all that high either.

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I just read that Bennett has a torn rotator cuff. This is why there was little interest, then a cheap 1 year deal for a quality player for us.

Although reports still say he'll still be ready for the start of the season.

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Me and my bro did LB's, TE's, and CB's this weekend. Looked at 3 RB's only so far.

(I think I was asked about TE's & RB's - Here's our ranks after our detailed evaluations)

No time to put full comments, but I'll give a few.

 

TE's: (Hated this class. Very weak in our view. Only 1 guy stood out for us really)

1st round ranking:

-Tyler Eifert - 6'6, 250, 4.68, 22 bench, Jr. - Great leaping ability and goes high and after the ball. Great catcher and a natural. Best TE by far. Stats good, speed good for TE's. Blocking ok, but good enough.

 

2nd round ranking:

-Zack Ertz - 6'6, 250, 4.76, 24 bench, only 1 year stats, but good. Great route runner! Fast, but NO JUMPING. Combine also showed lack of jump. Catches everything in his body. Probably 1st round, but lack of jumping big concern.

 

3rd round ranking:

-Joseph Fauria - 6'7, 255, 4.84, Jr., best at 20 shuttle, good stats, good hands, We bumped him up from traditional rankings over all others. We think he'll make a NFL TE, where the others not sure about. He's more a catcher then blocker. Jumping a concern too (Like Ertz). Not a super star athletically

 

4th round ranking:

-Travis Kelce - 6'6, 255, Sr, 1 year of stats but 8 TD's, no combine. Power blocker. Little slow, but good size. He made the list even though we were not that impressed. Little slow to separate and not playmaker, small school.

 

-Gavin Escobar - 6'6, 255, 4.84, Jr., No bench, Best at shuttle, Good 2 years Production, Low Jump, Good block

 

5th-7th round ranking:

-Vance McDonald - 6'4, 262, Sr, 4.9, 31 bench!, decent vert., some production, blocks so so, hands ok, small school (Rice) concern, We put a mark for him that we kind of like

 

-Chris Gragg - 6'3, 235, 18 bench, 371/2 vert - best, 2nd best in broad jump. No production.

Small frame and no production. Just a reach potential guy that had a good combine. (7th round type)

 

Not a fan of the TE's....

My thoughts: Unless Eifert dropped to us in the 2nd, or maybe Zack, then I would NOT consider TE until probably the 4th+ round. And I would be targeting Joseph Fauria, and not much else. Not a fan of the TE class.

 

I'll give LB's/CB's in different link.

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LB's Ranked - (Some decent depth at LB all around)

 

1st round ranking:

-Khaseem Greene - 6'1, 236, 4.71, sr. 136 tack, 12 for loss, 6 ff, - Stud player, fast and athletic. Best LB, Good coverage, hard hitter, smart,

Love this kid. Would take him if some how dropped to us in the 2nd. Weight only concern. Could play in or out though

 

-M. Teo - 6'2, 255, 4.82, 113 tack, 11 PD, 7 int's - Great coverage LB and that's why I really liked him. Can play In or out, decent on run support, good frame, not a superstar athletically but very good. Not worried about off field/mental

 

2nd round ranking:

-Sio Moore - 6'2, 230, 4.65, 29 bench!, Sr., 8 sacks, 11 pd, 15 for loss - Small school concern, Good run support, and good coverage skills. Fast! Like him a lot. Solid LB. Extra marks on him.

 

-Chase Thomas - 6'4, 248, 4.91, 18 bench - 7 sacks, 14 for loss, 64 tack, 4 pd - Shows HUGE pressure and great rusher, swim moves, non-stop motor, White dude, Good run defender, smart. Shows some coverage too, but this is not where he'll make his money. He plays like a DE, but does LB role too. He might need a special role and would be interesting how he could be used. Something like Clay Matthews. Extra high marks on him!

 

 

3rd round ranking:

-Kiko Alonso - 6'4, 246, 74 tack., 1 sack, 3 pd, 4 int's - Good Coverage LB, good run support, high motor. Very Similar to Chase!

Just on a bit of a lower scale. Might make a better LB then the LB rusher Chase can be. He also got a high mark.

 

-Jarvis Jones - 6'3, 240 - 86 tack, 24 for loss, 7 ff. - Injury issues. Funny actually - USC/Pete - said his career should be over because he has a Spine health concern. I don't see this as a pick for us. Could be a long term issue! But, he played well.

Bigger problem - He plays as a complete DE! He rushed almost every time on tape. Few times he went in coverage, but very very rare.

Love his speed and athletic ability, good run support. That's the only reason he's here though. Questionable coverage? Not a true LB as of yet.

And Hawks need a "great" coverage LB.

 

-Alec Ogletree - 6'3, 235, 4.70, 20 bench - 150 tackles, 3 sack - True LB and surprising so many tackles as he seems just average at it. Decent, but not great coverage skills. Kind of thin, but could go in or out at LB. True LB at least. He's interesting, but something seems a bit off. Probably should be higher. (Gave him extra star mark)

 

-Kevin Reddick - 6'3, 240, 4.72, bench 23 - 84 tack, 18 for loss, 6 sack, 6 PD, 4 int's. - All around good solid LB. Does well in coverage and run. We like him. (extra mark and moved him way up here, as I think he's usually lower ranked)

 

4th round ranking:

-B. Mingo - 6'5, 240, 4.58! Jr. - 38 tack!!!!, 4 sack, 37 Vert!! - Seems slower on tape or just plain not that good, but super fast combine speed. He is pretty fast though and easily considered "high speed/athletic, etc." Hate the production though!

Also, exactly like Jarvis Jones. He plays DE every time. So no coverage skills shown on tape. We see huge issues other then his stats/speed.

He gets blocked out a lot. He's like a Irvin I guess. NOT A NEED player. He's ranked way higher then this, but we down graded him here.

 

-Gerald Hodges - 6'2, 235, 4.75, 22 bench, - 109 tack - Decent coverage, decent run support. Not great star, but very sound. Solid LB.

Little undersized, but he seems strong and bench showed it.

 

5th round ranking:

-A. Brown - 6'1, 225, Sr., no combine - Looks electric fast, good run support for his size, OLB for sure. Stats?

He's a risk due to size and small school and stats, but we see really good potential here. (Gave him a higher star mark)

 

-K. Minter - 6'2, 240, 4.81, 25 bench - 130 tack, 15 for loss, MLB for sure - Does show some coverage, but slow and lack of true speed, Bad lateral movement, Good run support. More the MLB role or liability with some coverage. Not a preferred type guy, but shows enough.

 

-AJ Klein - 6'2, 244, 4.66 - 117 tack, 1 sack, 1 int. and pd - White dude, Average good player/LB, High motor and hard worker, captain, Not very flex, but shows speed. (He's a far less version of Chase and Kiko, but in the same mold) Interesting prospect though with that speed and frame and high motor.

 

-Philip Steward - 6'1, 223, - 128 tack, 12 for loss, 11 sacks!!, 3 pd, 3 int's.

Undersized is the real major concern, but his run support doesn't show it. Numbers prove it. Good in coverage, but sometimes will hold. He is more of an athlete and quick, high motor! OLB, Nice prospect. (Game him extra high mark)

 

6th-7th round ranking:

-Jamie Collins - 6'4, 239 - 84 tack, 10 sacks! 5 pd - Good sleeper, like his all around game and stats. (Extra mark)

-Bruce Taylor - 6'2, 244 - 77 tack, 5 sack, 4 pd - Little slow, but true LB with coverage skills and size and decent tape.

 

Overall: Would so love to land Khaseem Greene in the 2nd! Be very happy with M. Teo there also.

Would also look at Chase Thomas and Sio Moore in the 2nd too, but depending on who's there at DT because they drop off quicker and lots more talent at LB later on. After those 4, we would wait until the 3rd round or later and then look again.

Note: Want to look at Alec Ogeltree a bit more?

 

Like the LB group. Lots of talent and depth.

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Well, after fresh numbers came out on cap limits, adding in the money the Cowboys and Redskins were fined for cap management last year and distributed to the rest of the league, there is still over 6 million under the cap, even after the million used to resign the long snapper a couple of days ago.

 

Negotiations have been ongoing with Kam Chancellor on a new contract, as he and Golden Tate are the only key free agents next year. Also, rumors are still out there that Seattle and New England are the two teams still interested in Jon Abraham. Based on recent interviews by Carroll/Schneider, Bennett will play DE and DT, Avril will play DE and LB (Leroy Hill spot), so with Clemons iffy and if Abraham is affordable, well...I know I've been championing Abraham all offseason, and we did well by signing who we did. Baltimore signed Dumerville, Denver is trying to sign Freeney who is asking for a lot so that will take time, realistically Seattle and New England are still interested in Abraham. Is anyone else actively chasing D-line help?

 

We would still need to draft for DT and LB for sure. Maybe Right Tackle.

 

Should the team sit on the money and roll it over towards future contracts. One key point is that the draft picks are going to cost us very little this year, since we don't have a first rounder to sign, a low second rounder, and other low picks that probably won't make the team. Very, very little cap space will go to draft picks. It's the optimal year to get free agents.

 

Oh, yeah. With the upcoming cut of Palmer from Oakland, fresh Flynn trade rumors are starting up again. Oakland's GM was in Green Bay while Flynn was there. Would Buffalo swap 2nd rounders with Seattle, not losing any picks? Would Jax swap 2nd rounders, with their dissatisfaction with what they have to work with? Not that I want to get rid of Flynn. Just something to think about.

 

I've gotten over my disappointment of dealing a 3rd rounder next year in the deal for Harvin. That is pretty much the draft capital needed to move up the 6 spots from the #25 pick in the first round up to draft a guy with Harvin's skills. In draft capital, we essentially gave up the #19 pick in this year's draft to grab Harvin. That's OK by me.

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Well, after fresh numbers came out on cap limits, adding in the money the Cowboys and Redskins were fined for cap management last year and distributed to the rest of the league, there is still over 6 million under the cap, even after the million used to resign the long snapper a couple of days ago.

 

Negotiations have been ongoing with Kam Chancellor on a new contract, as he and Golden Tate are the only key free agents next year. Also, rumors are still out there that Seattle and New England are the two teams still interested in Jon Abraham. Based on recent interviews by Carroll/Schneider, Bennett will play DE and DT, Avril will play DE and LB (Leroy Hill spot), so with Clemons iffy and if Abraham is affordable, well...I know I've been championing Abraham all offseason, and we did well by signing who we did. Baltimore signed Dumerville, Denver is trying to sign Freeney who is asking for a lot so that will take time, realistically Seattle and New England are still interested in Abraham. Is anyone else actively chasing D-line help?

 

We would still need to draft for DT and LB for sure. Maybe Right Tackle.

 

Should the team sit on the money and roll it over towards future contracts. One key point is that the draft picks are going to cost us very little this year, since we don't have a first rounder to sign, a low second rounder, and other low picks that probably won't make the team. Very, very little cap space will go to draft picks. It's the optimal year to get free agents.

 

Oh, yeah. With the upcoming cut of Palmer from Oakland, fresh Flynn trade rumors are starting up again. Oakland's GM was in Green Bay while Flynn was there. Would Buffalo swap 2nd rounders with Seattle, not losing any picks? Would Jax swap 2nd rounders, with their dissatisfaction with what they have to work with? Not that I want to get rid of Flynn. Just something to think about.

 

I've gotten over my disappointment of dealing a 3rd rounder next year in the deal for Harvin. That is pretty much the draft capital needed to move up the 6 spots from the #25 pick in the first round up to draft a guy with Harvin's skills. In draft capital, we essentially gave up the #19 pick in this year's draft to grab Harvin. That's OK by me.

 

Wouldn't it be ironic if we traded Flynn to Buffalo?

That might just be the dejavu that sends Tjax to the funny farm.

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Wouldn't it be ironic if we traded Flynn to Buffalo?

That might just be the dejavu that sends Tjax to the funny farm.

 

I find it more amusing that we now have Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin and Darrell Bevell, yet dumped Tarvaris Jackson.

 

That's gotta be a gut punch.

 

Realistically, I would hope T Jax isn't blaming Flynn bumping him and for the trade to Buffalo. T Jax needs to blame T Jax. Zero 4th quarter comeback wins when around 6 close games slipped away, terrible progression reader, only threw to one side of the field. He was like Tebow, but without the winning part.

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We would still need to draft for DT and LB for sure. Maybe Right Tackle.

 

 

A lot of people think we should draft RT. Personally, I think Giacomini had a pretty good year once he stopped the foolish penalties. I don't see that as a need position.

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Wouldn't it be ironic if we traded Flynn to Buffalo?

That might just be the dejavu that sends Tjax to the funny farm.

I would be stunned is Buffalo traded for Flynn. If you listen to that taped conversation between Buddy Nix and and the Buc GM, Nix makes it quite clear that they cannot afford to give up picks. I think Flynn lands in Jacksonville with Gus Bradley.

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I'm thinking Jacksonville too. Buffalo Bills chatter points to them drafting somebody. Oakland has Pryor and a GM that values picks.

 

Jacksonville has the Bradley connection and a need for fairly inexpensive competition (and eventual replacement) for Gabbert. Could be a nice little situation for Flynn with Blackmon, Shorts and MJD.

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A lot of people think we should draft RT. Personally, I think Giacomini had a pretty good year once he stopped the foolish penalties. I don't see that as a need position.

 

Giacomini was driving me nuts with the penalties, and he is a solid player. However, his deal expires next season. He will make 3 million next season. There is zero chance the front office will look to negotiate an extension right now because they want to lock in the star players, namely Chancellor. They may want to hold onto Golden Tate. He will be 28 this season. Is he the long term answer at the position? Will he get a better deal elsewhere in free agency? We signed him when he was a backup/competing for a starting job. If he starts the whole year, he's earned more than 3 million per. Do you draft a RT in case you let Giacomini walk. I don't like the current depth at that spot. If nothing else, a tackle is an important depth position. At some point, we will start to lose some of these guys to other teams, so you have to plan for the future.

 

Also, since this team has accumulated so many key pieces, I guess in this year's draft I will spend less time harping on drafting for value, but will really give the benefit of the doubt for specialized positions. I would not have gone so bat sh!t last year with the Irvin pick if we had already acquired Bennett and Arvil, for example. I'm going to miss being a lunatic.

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I would be stunned is Buffalo traded for Flynn. If you listen to that taped conversation between Buddy Nix and and the Buc GM, Nix makes it quite clear that they cannot afford to give up picks. I think Flynn lands in Jacksonville with Gus Bradley.

 

Ah, but that's just the thing. If you swap 2nd rounders with Buffalo, they still have the same amount of picks, in the same rounds, but just pick later in the 2nd.

 

Eh, I'd still rather have Flynn.

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