Andre Brown

[cdogge 17]

Anybody else looking to bench him this week? Up against Seattle (I know the run defense isn't as special as the pass) and now we've got to worry about Hillis the vulture.

 

Am I crazy to want to start Toddman over him? Assuming mjd sits.

[TimHauck 2,633]

ESPN's only got him projected for 7 points in my league, but I think I'm going to stick with him over Spiller/FJax.

[rallo 136]

I don't know what to do with him... I have one spot open, but have to choose between Brown, Gerhart, Lacy, and Todman...

 

If only Lacy weren't an afternoon game. I may roll with Brown just to be safe as Lacy and Gerhart are risky plays, but i don't feel too excited about it....

[Go long 0]

I am starting Stacy over him this week. I have debated between the two but Seahawks have given up 4 rushing TD's all year and this is a TD heavy league. Not crazy about Hillis getting the goal line carry last week!

[mccombsau 5]

Actually considering starting Oby over him, or maybe even Cordarelle over him in the flex

[AnaheimRams 28]

Benching him.

 

It was a nice run he had... but too much Hillis last week for me to keep him in against SEA (even on the road).

 

Vereen and CJ2K or Tate will get the start.

 

(no PPR... my RB's suck something awful.)

[robzm19 6]

Cj against az will struggle. I guarantee he gets no more than 30yards

[AnaheimRams 28]

Cj against az will struggle. I guarantee he gets no more than 30yards

 

How does that guarantee work? If I bench him and he goes off do you pay my league fee or something?

 

He he he!

 

I like to have a 'boom or bust' option to go with what consider to be the steady play with Vereen.

 

Hmmmm... maybe Gio should get the start.

[American Chewy 98]

down to him or morris for me in a .5ppr league. I think i'm still going to stick with Brown for now.

[giraldi02 474]

People do realize that Seattle's run defense isn't elite right? And this game isn't on the road either

 

I am playing him over Zac Stacy easily. The Saints are going to be up big in that game, nullifying any possible need for him to be running the ball a bunch.

[jgcrawfish 232]

benched. went with keenan allen in ppr at flex instead. couldn't trust brown enough to commit that much.

[R8RMick 242]

I also think Seattle's run D can be had. But having said that will start Vereen and Stacy over him. For how much the Aints will be up on the Rams early, you can guarantee the Hawks will be killing the Giants secondary. Especially with the Giants pass rush MIA again.I look for them to go up early by a couple scores then settle into ball control mode.

 

I think the Rams will stick to a heavy run game regardless, not only to get Zac Stacy 1,000 yds in this lost season, but mainly because running is all they can do effectively.

[uwmalcolm 74]

People do realize that Seattle's run defense isn't elite right? And this game isn't on the road either

 

I am playing him over Zac Stacy easily. The Saints are going to be up big in that game, nullifying any possible need for him to be running the ball a bunch.

So you think the Saints are going to be so far up on the Rams that the Rams won't be able to run. Do you not think that the Hawks will be up on the Giants which would force them to throw as well? Seattle's run D is better overall than the Saints and their offense is just as potent.

[dennis29 6]

This website says Seattle is 27th in RB points allowed. If that's not elite, it's pretty close.

 

People do realize that Seattle's run defense isn't elite right? And this game isn't on the road either

[TwentyFourSeven 23]

I'm not worked about the Seattle DEF as much as I am the Giants falling behind and not running it much. I'm thinking Todman in a closer game against a bad DEF.

[idlewild 6]

I'm not worked about the Seattle DEF as much as I am the Giants falling behind and not running it much. I'm thinking Todman in a closer game against a bad DEF.

[idlewild 6]

This

[BuschWack 59]

I'm trying to decide between Andre and Jefferys in my flex spot. .5 ppr. leaning Jeffreys.

[cyclone24 1,912]

I'm not sure what to do....it's either him or Levon bell. Both make me want to vomit.

 

Nobody picked up todman but I can't see benching brown and bell for todman at this point in the season

[American Chewy 98]

I'm not sure what to do....it's either him or Levon bell. Both make me want to vomit.

 

Nobody picked up todman but I can't see benching brown and bell for todman at this point in the season

 

I have the same issue with brown vs bell. I am in a .5 ppr which I think favors bell slightly. also bell is more assure of being in on GL plays. thirdly I expect the pitt/cincy game to be close all the way or perhaps even pitt ahead. whereas the giants could get behind. so i'm leaning bell right now.

[cyclone24 1,912]

I have the same issue with brown vs bell. I am in a .5 ppr which I think favors bell slightly. also bell is more assure of being in on GL plays. thirdly I expect the pitt/cincy game to be close all the way or perhaps even pitt ahead. whereas the giants could get behind. so i'm leaning bell right now.

Ya I am too...just because the game should be closer? Maybe? Such a crap shoot.

[Birk 14]

benching him for Steven Jackon in one league, and Stacy in another.

[snatchit 108]

i am in a pinch... I have to pick one at of these 3: A.Brown vs SEA, Gore vs TB or CJ vs ARZ in ppr. All bad match ups. Who would you go with ?

[KryptonKnights 6]

i am in a pinch... I have to pick one at of these 3: A.Brown vs SEA, Gore vs TB or CJ vs ARZ in ppr. All bad match ups. Who would you go with ?

Gore looked tired to me running in his last game and TB seems to actually care now. Andre is getting robbed by Hillis and road or not its the Seahawks. CJ has been the most inconsistent of the group but he is the most explosive. He might give up some touches too but I think he has the most upside this week. I would go there if it were me. I am benching Brown this week already played Moreno who decided he had done enough for me Thursday and Mathews who came up big. In the flex I currently have Stacy who also has a bad matchup or the ultimate boom/bust Spiller. I think I am going to stick with Zac.

[Giants Fan 85]

Whatchu talkin 'bout Hillis?

 

Look, the Giants know the season is done. Brandon Jacobs has been sent to IR. That doesn't make the next 3 weeks preseason games. Look, Wilson may have a very short career, Jacobs is an old man. Time for him to move on to assistant coaching. Hillis? Yeah, I think the Giants already know what they have with Hillis. He's a project. Potential depth. Andre Brown ... really ... they gotta see what they have there. In real NFL games. Ya know, if Coughlin is gonna roll him out there pre-season week 4 ... he's gonna roll him out there now. They are going to try and win, and that means starting Andre Brown.

 

Andre Brown could be next years Knowshon Moreno.

[KryptonKnights 6]

Whatchu talkin 'bout Hillis?

 

Look, the Giants know the season is done. Brandon Jacobs has been sent to IR. That doesn't make the next 3 weeks preseason games. Look, Wilson may have a very short career, Jacobs is an old man. Time for him to move on to assistant coaching. Hillis? Yeah, I think the Giants already know what they have with Hillis. He's a project. Potential depth. Andre Brown ... really ... they gotta see what they have there. In real NFL games. Ya know, if Coughlin is gonna roll him out there pre-season week 4 ... he's gonna roll him out there now. They are going to try and win, and that means starting Andre Brown.

 

Andre Brown could be next years Knowshon Moreno.

I don't dispute they are going to "play to win the game.....hellooo" LOL. But it seemed obvious to me that they are pushing Hillis out there in goal line situations. My take is they know what they have in Brown. And while they aren't going to sit him like some priceless part of next years puzzle the rest of the way they also aren't going to run him into the ground. If they have any questions at this point I think it would be - Will Hillis make a good complementary/short yardage back to Brown next season? If the answer is yes they can save a draft pick and or free agency money and ignore the position this offseason. I see a 70/30 Brown/Hillis split down the stretch with Hillis getting most of the short yardage goal line work.

[TimHauck 2,633]

This

 

The Giants were down 24-0 by halftime last week and Brown still had 16 carries

[Eddie Kennison 12]

I feel the pain. I'm trying to decide between Brown, Tate, or Todman. Leaning Brown bc I would hate myself if I trusted Ben Tate again after last week and he kills my dreams.

[SaintsInDome2006 418]

I think Hillis is gone next year, Coughlin just uses Hillis at the goal line and to rest Brown because that's what he always does. It used to be Brown, and it was Jacobs, now it's Hillis. It's too bad because I really believe Brown can do it all, and he's especially good at the goal line.

 

I'd have to think Giants fans are ticked by all this.

[R8RMick 242]

I am big on Andre Brown, have been so for months here. He seems to have assumed the role Bradshaw used to have in this offense, which may explain why The Red Ass has used others in short yardage/GL situations. Who knows? Despite fact Hillis has ran hard, I also think Brown is a great short yardage back. Silver lining here is Brown's work out of the backfield in the passing game. It may actually save him this week.

 

I just think this game is going to get out of hand by the first half. Giants are done and they know it, though the team made a heroic effort to right that 0-6 wreck. They just don't have the horses, in the trenches and on the back end on defense. Seattle will be fired up after its loss, I just see a game out of hand early, which rarely bodes well for the RB's. I don't dislike this match up, just going Stacy and Vereen over it.

[tackle_football 0]

I can't decide what to do with him either. Playing in a 1 pt ppr and have Brown, Ben Tate, Rashard Jennings, and Edelman to fill my flex and an RB slot. Pretty much dead set on Edelman but going back and forth on Brown and Tate.

 

My main concern like others have expressed is NY getting down early and abandoning the running game.

[nzoner 937]

NFC Playbook is saying the injury to K.J. Wright is what enabled Gore's biggest run of the season last week.

[cyclone24 1,912]

I'm pulling him. The guys on Sirius had a good point.

 

He's getting pulled near the goal line now, he's only getting about 3 catches a game so in a standard league doesn't do a ton for you, and odds are they will be playing from behind. Not a great recipe

[giraldi02 474]

This website says Seattle is 27th in RB points allowed. If that's not elite, it's pretty close.

 

The Seahawks allow 111.5 rushing yards a game. The loss of KJ Wright shouldn't be understated as well. He had posted positive efficiency ratings in both run defense and pass defense in his previous three games before the injury (according to PFF). In those three games, the leading rusher for their opponents had 22 yards (Ingram), 65 and 67 yards (Peterson and Gerhart respectively), and 31 yards (J. Rodgers). The main concern shouldn't be whether Brown can get his yards. He's going to be good for about 85 yards tomorrow I'd say.

 

The only concern I have is whether he can punch it in the end zone. And that's not a Peyton Hillis dilemma. That's due to the fact that Seattle has only allowed four rushing touchdowns all season, two of which occurred in the blowout victory against the Jaguars, and both of those touchdowns were after the game was out of hand.

 

 

As for New Orleans, they haven't allowed an opposing running back to gain more than 80 yards from scrimmage since week 10 against Dallas. They've only allowed 100+ yards from scrimmage from an opposing running back four times all season, with three of those occurring before their week 7 bye. I am as big of a proponent for Zac Stacy there is...but I just do not see any way he has a significantly better game than Brown.

 

Having said that...it's really a toss up between the two. Brown might be a better play in PPR leagues as I'd expect him to catch a couple passes (at least four targets and three catches in the past four games)

[WR Guru 31]

I've seen Seattle get carved up on the ground this year by the likes of St.Louis and Tampa. They gave up 163 rushing to San Fran last week. It's definitely the achilles heel of that defense. If the Giants can just be somewhat competitive and not get blown off the field, this is not a terrible matchup for Brown.

[cdogge 17]

Thank u Toddman

[TwentyFourSeven 23]

Very glad I started Todman and sat Brown.