IRS "loses" 2 years of Lois Lerner emails. How convenient.

[Googballz 39]

Confronted with facts, go with insults, FFMike should just get you a white flag gif.

 

.

Facts?

 

You linked the spin the IRS is trying to sell. Every IT person I've heard on this say they could retrieve the emails with no problem. But you keep pushing the IRS spin, Kid. It's fun to watch.

 

In the future I will try to refrain from insulting you by calling you cute, Oger. I had no idea you had such thin skin.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

Confronted with facts, go with insults, FFMike should just get you a white flag gif.

 

You defend your stupidity like a Texan at the Alamo, it's impressive...sad, but impressive.

you shouldn't be able to say texan and alamo, its offensive

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Moz 69]

Didn't read all this drivel -- but IMO if they really did lose all those emails -- then there is an obvious cover up of some sort as you don't just lose all that in a high profile Govt position w/o back ups. Obama's saving grace here is that SO damn many times has the far right cried wolf and yelled "OUTRAGE" no one looks too close now when there is a Legit reason for "OUTRAGE" .

[Mike Honcho 5,295]

Facts?

 

You linked the spin the IRS is trying to sell. Every IT person I've heard on this say they could retrieve the emails with no problem. But you keep pushing the IRS spin, Kid. It's fun to watch.

 

In the future I will try to refrain from insulting you by calling you cute, Oger. I had no idea you had such thin skin.

 

Spin? Like the spin where Lerner reported her computer crashed and IT said it couldn't be fixed, that's documented. The documented policy of backups and server space allocation at the IRS, that people predicted would be trouble,,,those are facts not spin.

 

I love watching Ed Norton's interpretation of me debating you...he nails it.

 

[Googballz 39]

Nice to see you admit you have been curb stomped.

[Mike Honcho 5,295]

Nice to see you admit you have been curb stomped.

 

Again with the reading comprehension fail. Sad...so sad.

 

 

---still can't address the facts, booby?

[Mike Honcho 5,295]

you shouldn't be able to say texan and alamo, its offensive

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You really want to know what's wrong with America...douches who are such partisan hacks they can't admit they were wrong. Get a mirror drobe,you'll see America's biggest problem. HTH.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,457]

Sigh.... Anybody want to debate this sh!t or are you a bunch of cowards he'll bent on blaming an administration from the past as to why the current administration is the suck and your assumptions about who watches a news organization has any merit to your vague arguments and cowardly progressive agenda about the current state of affairs and how they effect today's agenda? Going forward, you do realize how impotent any of your arguments are considering the fact that you are using the Bush and Fox doctrine of debate?

 

Grow the fawk up and debate like one. It's sad and pathetic how some of you debate. I stay out of most of them because of it.

 

 

Pretend that you are having an intelligent conversation for once. I'm a drunk who has more to not say.

[Voltaire 5,317]

you shouldn't be able to say texan and alamo, its offensive

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'Texans' and 'Alamo' go together beautifully in any sentence. I think a faux pas may have occurred when he put 'stupid' in that sentence as well. Of course, he wasn't implying that the Texans were stupid...

[drobeski 3,061]

'Texans' and 'Alamo' go together beautifully in any sentence. I think a faux pas may have occurred when he put 'stupid' in that sentence as well. Of course, he wasn't implying that the Texans were stupid...

as an electrician i am highly offended by your handle, please change it before the offending spreads to plumbers too.

Thank you

[drobeski 3,061]

Sigh.... Anybody want to debate this sh!t or are you a bunch of cowards he'll bent on blaming an administration from the past as to why the current administration is the suck and your assumptions about who watches a news organization has any merit to your vague arguments and cowardly progressive agenda about the current state of affairs and how they effect today's agenda? Going forward, you do realize how impotent any of your arguments are considering the fact that you are using the Bush and Fox doctrine of debate?

 

Grow the fawk up and debate like one. It's sad and pathetic how some of you debate. I stay out of most of them because of it.

 

 

Pretend that you are having an intelligent conversation for once. I'm a drunk who has more to not say.

good post

[Mike Honcho 5,295]

Sigh.... Anybody want to debate this sh!t or are you a bunch of cowards he'll bent on blaming an administration from the past as to why the current administration is the suck and your assumptions about who watches a news organization has any merit to your vague arguments and cowardly progressive agenda about the current state of affairs and how they effect today's agenda? Going forward, you do realize how impotent any of your arguments are considering the fact that you are using the Bush and Fox doctrine of debate?

 

Grow the fawk up and debate like one. It's sad and pathetic how some of you debate. I stay out of most of them because of it.

 

 

Pretend that you are having an intelligent conversation for once. I'm a drunk who has more to not say.

 

I guess you're pretending you don't see the facts and evidence that's already been brought to the table.

[Googballz 39]

Whats to debate?

 

Since you feel there is nothing to debate here, can we expect you will no longer post in this thread?

[Reality 3,121]

Sigh.... Anybody want to debate this sh!t or are you a bunch of cowards he'll bent on blaming an administration from the past as to why the current administration is the suck and your assumptions about who watches a news organization has any merit to your vague arguments and cowardly progressive agenda about the current state of affairs and how they effect today's agenda? Going forward, you do realize how impotent any of your arguments are considering the fact that you are using the Bush and Fox doctrine of debate?

 

Grow the fawk up and debate like one. It's sad and pathetic how some of you debate. I stay out of most of them because of it.

 

 

Pretend that you are having an intelligent conversation for once. I'm a drunk who has more to not say.

 

 

Yup.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Nice to see you admit you have been curb stomped.

Recliner Pilot loved the term "curb stomped" too. But oh no, you aren't him - you've only been here a few months

[IGotWorms 4,058]

why should we keep in mind ? What's it's relevance to today's news ?

Did you keep in mind clintons every fock up while analyzing bush fock ups ?

None you did so for once shut the fock up a about bush, man up , step up to the plate and actually defend the horrible administration, if you can.

It's called perspective, ya fockin retard. You b!tch and moan about anything a democrat does but when it's a republican doing ten times worse you defend him to the very end. And you wonder why nobody gives two focking sh!ts about your opinion on political issues.

 

Funny you mention Clinton because that is an EXCELLENT example. Focktards like you didn't years and years frothing at the mouth over the Lewinsky scandal, which harmed precisely NO ONE. Then Bush comes into office and lies us into a decade long war in Iraq resulting in thousands of dead U.S. soldiers and tens of thousand more wounded and trillions of dollars wasted. And what do you do?? You fockin bullsh!t hacks defended him over and over again.

 

So Clinton gets a BJ or four people die on Obama's watch and it's the most egregious thing to ever happen in the history of ever, but a republican president presides over the worst terrorism attack on US soil ever and lies his way into a catastrophically bad foreign war and he's a focking hero and a patriot.

 

It's so fockin pathetic I don't even know why I waste my time pointing out the hypocrisy.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,457]

I run circles around you Fawkers and it's not even fun anymore. Please stop with your vapid attempts to keep up with me. It's sad and pathetic on so many levels. TIA.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,457]

Please attempt to find and explain one thing Onama has done concerning world events that W was not able to go besides the execution of OBL.

 

Name one other.

[Reality 3,121]

It's called perspective, ya fockin retard. You b!tch and moan about anything a democrat does but when it's a republican doing ten times worse you defend him to the very end. And you wonder why nobody gives two focking sh!ts about your opinion on political issues.

 

Funny you mention Clinton because that is an EXCELLENT example. Focktards like you didn't years and years frothing at the mouth over the Lewinsky scandal, which harmed precisely NO ONE. Then Bush comes into office and lies us into a decade long war in Iraq resulting in thousands of dead U.S. soldiers and tens of thousand more wounded and trillions of dollars wasted. And what do you do?? You fockin bullsh!t hacks defended him over and over again.

 

So Clinton gets a BJ or four people die on Obama's watch and it's the most egregious thing to ever happen in the history of ever, but a republican president presides over the worst terrorism attack on US soil ever and lies his way into a catastrophically bad foreign war and he's a focking hero and a patriot.

 

It's so fockin pathetic I don't even know why I waste my time pointing out the hypocrisy.

 

This post may have some validity if it came from almost any other person who frequents this forum. But, it came from you... You are an all-time hack who has zero credibility. I almost feel bad for how phenomenally clueless you truly are. You run your mouth non-stop like a focking idiot, then try to come into threads posting this bullsh!t like you are above the fray.

 

Get the fock over yourself, you are everything you pretend to hate about the other side.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

 

This post may have some validity if it came from almost any other person who frequents this forum. But, it came from you... You are an all-time hack who has zero credibility. I almost feel bad for how phenomenally clueless you truly are. You run your mouth non-stop like a focking idiot, then try to come into threads posting this bullsh!t like you are above the fray.

 

Get the fock over yourself, you are everything you pretend to hate about the other side.

 

 

Way to dodge the point entirely. "Might have some validity if it came from someone else"...i.e., I can't rebut the point at all so I will attack the messenger instead. Transparent and pathetic.

[Reality 3,121]

 

 

Way to dodge the point entirely. "Might have some validity if it came from someone else"...i.e., I can't rebut the point at all so I will attack the messenger instead. Transparent and pathetic.

 

Rebut what? No administration should ever be criticized because other administrations weren't perfect? It's one of the dumbest points you have ever made, and that is saying something.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

 

Rebut what? No administration should ever be criticized because other administrations weren't perfect? It's one of the dumbest points you have ever made, and that is saying something.

 

That isn't the point at all. I'm pretty sure you know that and are deliberately misrepresenting what I am saying. But just in case you really can't comprehend it, I'll say it again: your outrage is wildly hypocritical when you turn a blind eye to things that Republican administrations do that are far, far worse in terms of actual cost to human lives and so forth.

 

No administration should ever be criticized? Of course not. They should all be criticized. Some more than others, and I think that's where the matter of perspective comes in.

 

Let me break it down in a way that maybe even you can understand:

 

Benghazi: Four Americans dead

 

9/11: 3,000 Americans dead

 

So how come the guy who was in charge at the time of the former is a wildly negligent commander in chief incapable of leading the country, while the guy in charge at the time of the latter was somehow "strong on terror"? How come people like you piss and moan and kick and scream over Benghazi after never once questioning how the prior precedent allowed the worst attack to ever occur on American soil?

 

And before you say it - yes I know this thread is about the IRS scandal and not Benghazi or 9/11. But it's the easiest example to give because the numbers are right there for everyone to see. 9/11 was roughly 800 times worse than Benghazi and yet you guys have been crying about Benghazi for going on two years now!

[drobeski 3,061]

They cant help it

[Googballz 39]

Recliner Pilot loved the term "curb stomped" too. But oh no, you aren't him - you've only been here a few months

Pulled it from the title of the YouTube in the post I quoted. You are a slow one.

[NewbieJr 541]

Pulled it from the title of the YouTube in the post I quoted. You are a slow one.

 

You do realize that there's no longer a single person here who doesn't know that you're RP, right? Not a one. So you embarrass yourself even more every time you attempt to keep the charade going. Although after the FBI surveillance van debacle, you probably couldn't possibly look more foolish.

[Googballz 39]

 

You do realize that there's no longer a single person here who doesn't know that you're RP, right? Not a one. So you embarrass yourself even more every time you attempt to keep the charade going. Although after the FBI surveillance van debacle, you probably couldn't possibly look more foolish.

You do realize I don't care one bit what anyone here thinks about me, right? Your opinion of me, or who I am, or what I look like means absolutely nothing.

 

However, I get a kick out of watching all you losers obsess over it.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

As I said, read the links drobs asked me to find...all stuff from around 2008 and 2009 if you need a refresher.

You don't even have to imagine hard to see that RP's posts and Googz posts are pretty nearly exactly the same.

Its funny that he still runs around thinking people don't know its him.

The sad thing is, there's no longer even one person falling for it. Yet he's too dumb to realize that. Not that anyone here ever had the impression that he was anything but an idiot. But still...

[Googballz 39]

Pure entertainment.

[posty 2,714]

Sources: Lois Lerner’s emails likely gone forever

 

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/irs-lois-lerner-emails-108044.html?hp=f2

 

Ex-IRS official Lois Lerner’s crashed hard drive has been recycled, making it likely the lost emails of the lightening rod in the tea party targeting controversy will never be found, according to multiple sources.

 

“We’ve been informed that the hard drive has been thrown away,” Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, the top Republican on the Finance Committee, said in a brief hallway interview.

 

Two additional sources told POLITICO the same late Wednesday, citing IRS officials.

 

It may just be standard government procedure, but the revelation is significant because some lawmakers and observers thought there was a way that tech experts could revive Lerner’s emails after they were washed away in a computer crash in the summer of 2011. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), for example, subpoenaed her damaged hard drive earlier this week, when he asked for “all hard drives, external drives, thumb drives and computers” and “all electronic communication devices the IRS issued to Lois G. Lerner.”

 

“IT experts have weighed in and said yes — we can get those” emails, said Rep. Charles Boustany (R-La.) earlier Wednesday.

 

The latest news suggests such professionals may never get the chance to try again — and the IRS has even said its criminal investigators who specialize in rebuilding hard drives to recover hidden information from criminals were unable to restore the data back in 2011. But this is only likely to further enrage Republicans, who are fuming over the matter and suspect Washington officials drove the selective scrutiny.

 

The IRS told congressional investigators on Friday that the emails of Lerner, the former head of the tax exempt division that was found to have singled out conservative groups for additional scrutiny, were lost from 2009 to 2011 in a computer hard drive crash in early summer 2011. IRS chief John Koskinen will face angry Republicans at a hearing on Friday.

 

The time frame is significant because the tea party targeting began in spring of 2010, and Republicans think if there was a smoking gun connecting the Obama administration to the IRS treatment of conservative groups, it could be found during that period.

 

“We believe the standard IRS protocol was followed in 2011 for disposing of the broken hard drive. A bad hard drive, like other broken Information Technology equipment, is sent to a recycler as part of our regular process,” an IRS spokesman said in response to a query from POLITICO.

 

On Wednesday, the White House retorted that for the time frame in which Lerner’s emails are missing, there are no direct communications between 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. and the now-retired Lerner.

 

Earlier this week, Ways and Means Republicans said as many as six IRS employees involved in the scandal also lost email in computer crashes, including the former chief of staff for the acting IRS commissioner.

 

That’s because before May 2013, the IRS backed up emails only for six months on a tape, then recycled the tapes, so they essentially threw out the data. Many agencies do the same, transparency experts say.

 

The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, which wrote the May 2013 report that uncovered the practice of IRS workers singling out some applicants for tax breaks with the words “tea party” for added scrutiny, is currently in possession of Lerner’s laptop and her new hard drive, according to an IRS letter.

 

The IRS has been able to retrieve about 24,000 of Lerner’s emails sent to other IRS employees by recovering them from other agents who received, sent or were copied on the emails.

 

However, Koskinen has acknowledged that the IRS wouldn’t be able to find emails Lerner sent outside the agency.

[FishHead 3]

Rose Mary Woods.

 

anybody?

[Frank M 181]

Sigh.... Anybody want to debate this sh!t or are you a bunch of cowards he'll bent on blaming an administration from the past as to why the current administration is the suck and your assumptions about who watches a news organization has any merit to your vague arguments and cowardly progressive agenda about the current state of affairs and how they effect today's agenda? Going forward, you do realize how impotent any of your arguments are considering the fact that you are using the Bush and Fox doctrine of debate?

 

Grow the fawk up and debate like one. It's sad and pathetic how some of you debate. I stay out of most of them because of it.

 

 

Pretend that you are having an intelligent conversation for once. I'm a drunk who has more to not say.

 

Here is the level of debate you can realistically expect with Republicans on this topic:

 

"Yeah, right, they lost a bunch of e-mails. That's impossible, it never happens anywhere ever."

 

"Well, here's an explanation as to why the e-mails were lost along with a link explaining how they were lost."

 

"You're an Obama nutbag-swinging lefty lemming who will believe anything this administration tells you!"

 

" "

[drobeski 3,061]

So her computer was also the server i guess

[paulinstl 296]

So her computer was also the server i guess

 

What if it comes out that the emails were destroyed and lost on purpose? What then? Follow the trail to the oval office, then impeach Obama? What's your endgame here? And please don't offend my intelligence by saying you want the truth.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

BTW...about 10 seconds of searching produced this.

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=338443&p=3865837

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=338177&p=3860386

http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=336652&p=3839681

 

 

 

Need more complaining about things clinton did too? Its kinda easy to find even with about a 1 year window when the board was actually around.

 

bump for drobs...you claim to not be a hack, but when you ask for a link and it gets provided...you move on to something else.

Why is that?

[BunnysBastatrds 2,457]

 

What if it comes out that the emails were destroyed and lost on purpose? What then? Follow the trail to the oval office, then impeach Obama? What's your endgame here? And please don't offend my intelligence by saying you want the truth.

 

 

So you'd be ok knowing the president was involved in this? Some think, including myself, that this would be a bigger offense than Watergate.This would be a much bigger story if we were talking about a republican president and administration. Agree?

[paulinstl 296]

 

 

So you'd be ok knowing the president was involved in this? Some think, including myself, that this would be a bigger offense than Watergate.This would be a much bigger story if we were talking about a republican president and administration. Agree?

 

 

Hell no I wouldn't be OK with having any president involved in this kind of ######. As far as this being a bigger offense than Watergate, that is just completely wrong. Do you realize what all went down during Watergate? Watergate was bad, really bad, but the worst scandal by any administration I've been alive for is Iran Contra. If they find a direct link to Obama like they did with Nixon in Watergate, I say impeach him.

 

As far as whether it would be a bigger story if it was a GOP president, I doubt it, It led every national news show I have seen all week. It also has been on every local news program here all week. I'm not a huge liberal biased media guy like you, so I don't see it.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

So you'd be ok knowing the president was involved in this? Some think, including myself, that this would be a bigger offense than Watergate.This would be a much bigger story if we were talking about a republican president and administration. Agree?

That last part is most definitely not true. While you may be right that the majority of network lean left, none of them approach it with the venom that Fox News does. They are out for blood on every issue. MSNBC might try also, but no one watches them. There may be more coverage of it if it were a Republican President, but it would be covered much differently and more rationally and with much less "OUTRAGE!!!!".

[BunnysBastatrds 2,457]

That last part is most definitely not true. While you may be right that the majority of network lean left, none of them approach it with the venom that Fox News does. They are out for blood on every issue. MSNBC might try also, but no one watches them. There may be more coverage of it if it were a Republican President, but it would be covered much differently and more rationally and with much less "OUTRAGE!!!!".

 

 

It's a story that can't be ignored. You don't think it's being covered rationally? Do you actually watch Fox News? Not the pundit shows but the news?

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

It's a story that can't be ignored. You don't think it's being covered rationally? Do you actually watch Fox News? Not the pundit shows but the news?

I have on occasion. It's seriously laughable.

[OldMaid 2,130]

It's a story that can't be ignored. You don't think it's being covered rationally? Do you actually watch Fox News? Not the pundit shows but the news?

Did you really say you think this is worse than Watergate?!?!? I don't know whether to or to