Googballz 39 Posted August 18, 2014 Nobody gives a flying motherfock what you think HTH Simmer down Huggy Bear. I'm sure I will post something you can run and cry to Starsky about soon enough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,059 Posted August 18, 2014 Simmer down Huggy Bear. I'm sure I will post something you can run and cry to Starsky about soon enough. Prove I reported you. You can't, because you're a lying little b!tch. I think you are an absolutely worthless waste of life but I wouldn't report you over it. Maybe I'd report you to your mother, if I could travel back in time and convince her to go ahead and have that abortion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Googballz 39 Posted August 18, 2014 Prove I reported you. You can't, because you're a lying little b!tch. I think you are an absolutely worthless waste of life but I wouldn't report you over it. Maybe I'd report you to your mother, if I could travel back in time and convince her to go ahead and have that abortion I said to simmer down, Huggy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 18, 2014 Prove I reported you. You can't, because you're a lying little b!tch. I think you are an absolutely worthless waste of life but I wouldn't report you over it. Maybe I'd report you to your mother, if I could travel back in time and convince her to go ahead and have that abortion Just ignore him worms...its obvious he is out for a few things...following you is a big one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Googballz 39 Posted August 18, 2014 Just ignore him worms...its obvious he is out for a few things...following you is a big one. I offered up my opinion on this situation. Worms came at me with both guns blazing, but don't let facts get in your way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted August 18, 2014 Prove I reported you. You can't, because you're a lying little b!tch. I think you are an absolutely worthless waste of life but I wouldn't report you over it. Maybe I'd report you to your mother, if I could travel back in time and convince her to go ahead and have that abortion Focking narc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,504 Posted August 18, 2014 And if this is true ? http://www.wcvb.com/national/autopsy-michael-brown-shot-at-least-6-times/27577754#!bFNMPi FERGUSON, Missouri (CNN) The Ferguson, Missouri, police officer who killed Michael Brown says the teenager rushed at him full speed in the moments before the shooting, according to an account phoned in to a St. Louis radio station and confirmed as accurate by a source with detailed knowledge of the investigation. According to the account on KTFK, phoned in by a woman who identified herself as "Josie," the altercation began after Officer Darren Wilson rolled down his window to tell Brown and a friend to stop walking in the street. When Wilson tried to get out of his cruiser, Brown first tried to push the officer back into the car, then punched him in the face and grabbed for his gun before breaking free after the gun went off once, the caller said. Wilson pursued Brown and his friend, ordering them to freeze, according to the account. When they turned around, Brown began taunting Wilson, saying he would not arrest them, then ran at the officer at full speed, the caller said. Wilson then began shooting. The final shot was to Brown's forehead, and the teenager fell two or three feet in front of Wilson, the caller said. A source with detailed knowledge of the investigation later told CNN the caller's account is "accurate," in that it matches what Wilson has told investigators. If true, the account represents the first telling of events from the perspective of Wilson, whose shooting of Brown has touched off nightly protests and violence in the suburban St. Louis city. Earlier Monday, an autopsy conducted for the family of Brown found no evidence that he struggled with Wilson before his death, according to the pathologist in charge of the examination. Dr. Michael Baden said no signs of a struggle were revealed in his autopsy of Brown's body, conducted after an official examination by the St. Louis County medical examiner's office. Read more: http://www.wcvb.com/national/autopsy-michael-brown-shot-at-least-6-times/27577754#ixzz3AmGvAwQI So the dead kid assaulted a cop, ran away from him and then stopped and charged him full speed, forcing the officer to resolve this jaywalking dispute in a hail of bullets. Sounds plausible! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,517 Posted August 19, 2014 If it were a white college student we would likely not know about it, nor be talking about it. The black community needs this kind of event to justify their inane belief that whitey is working against them. So true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 19, 2014 So the dead kid assaulted a cop, ran away from him and then stopped and charged him full speed, forcing the officer to resolve this jaywalking dispute in a hail of bullets. Sounds plausible! That makes 2 reports that match the police version, Don't you guys ever get tired of falling into the same trap on these? Hopped up thug attacks authority figure. Hopped up thugs story unravels while authority figure's story is shown to be true. Why would anyone doubt the story of a police officer who acted in broad daylight in front of hundreds? Wouldn't we err on his side until his story was shown to be untrue? This would happen quickly if he lied. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted August 19, 2014 That makes 2 reports that match the police version, Don't you guys ever get tired of falling into the same trap on these? Hopped up thug attacks authority figure. Hopped up thugs story unravels while authority figure's story is shown to be true. Why would anyone doubt the story of a police officer who acted in broad daylight in front of hundreds? Wouldn't we err on his side until his story was shown to be untrue? This would happen quickly if he lied. Actually, there are now 14 seperate witness reports that all corroborate this. I am frankly surprised, and I have to now assume that this kid was under the influence of some substance to do something so crazy. All of the accounts tell the same exact story. Kid is approached by officer, told to leave the roadway, kid starts talking back to the officer, officer says something that enrages the kid. Kid reaches into the car to attempt to assault the officer, who begins to draw his weapon, the encounter with the weapon seems to have been added to the physical altrercation already in play, weapon discharges in the car, away from both participants, and is enough to shock the kid and accomplice to run. Cop exits the vehicle and commands the kid to stop, kid stops and turns, begins taunting the cop verbally and challenging him to shoot, more words exchanged, now kids fury escalates and he charges at the cop. Cop fires shots to stop the kid, hitting him the arm, as kid gets closer and shows no signs of stopping, cop refocuses weapon to center mass, but kid is charing at full head of steam, cop strikes kid in head. This is just the meagerest of information trickling out, but part of it is the story of the cop himself being told by a friend who called the information in to a national talk radio station. None of this is vetted or checked, so until we hear from investigators it remains hearsay to me.....but that up to 14 people tell this same story is also compelling. We cannot ignore that while an alternate version is already out, that alternate version is rife with contradictions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,504 Posted August 19, 2014 That makes 2 reports that match the police version, Don't you guys ever get tired of falling into the same trap on these? Hopped up thug attacks authority figure. Hopped up thugs story unravels while authority figure's story is shown to be true. Why would anyone doubt the story of a police officer who acted in broad daylight in front of hundreds? Wouldn't we err on his side until his story was shown to be untrue? This would happen quickly if he lied. You're counting Josie the radio caller among these reports? I am assuming we are never going to know for sure what happened. But I find it very hard to believe this guy assaulted a cop and went for his gun, a shot went off in the struggle, ran away and then abruptly decided to charge the cop, forcing that cop to shoot him multiple times. It seems extremely unlikely to me that a punk would charge after an armed police officer. I'm guessing the truth lies somewhere in the middle here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted August 19, 2014 I am assuming we are never going to know for sure what happened. This is correct. Unless there is a video somewhere. Each side has vested interest in obscuring some portion of the events. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted August 19, 2014 You're counting Josie the radio caller among these reports? I am assuming we are never going to know for sure what happened. But I find it very hard to believe this guy assaulted a cop and went for his gun, got shot in a struggle, ran away and then abruptly decided to charge the cop who just shot him, forcing that cop to shoot him multiple times. It seems extremely unlikely to me that a punk who just took a bullet would charge after an armed police officer. I'm guessing the truth lies somewhere in the middle here. Correct. It is not clear exactly who that person was, which is why I stated that none of this is yet vetted or checked (to my knowledge) but the corroboration of this story with and other witnesses is compelling, as is the lack of corroboration in the competing story. I agree with you that this story is so fantastic as to be beyond belief, it does not pass the smell test. Somewhere in the middle is likely the real story, and I suspect that the story is a sad series of misjudgments and/or mistakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 19, 2014 You're counting Josie the radio caller among these reports? I am assuming we are never going to know for sure what happened. But I find it very hard to believe this guy assaulted a cop and went for his gun, a shot went off in the struggle, ran away and then abruptly decided to charge the cop, forcing that cop to shoot him multiple times. It seems extremely unlikely to me that a punk would charge after an armed police officer. I'm guessing the truth lies somewhere in the middle here. My question is why your side automatically discounts the authority figure's account every time. Every time you are proven wrong. Being justified to shoot is a different issue than the account of what happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted August 19, 2014 My question is why your side automatically discounts the authority figure's account every time. Every time you are proven wrong. Being justified to shoot is a different issue than the account of what happened. Historically the justice system, from courts to cops, has not applied the law evenly, and for decades the African American community has faced a more harsh version of law, to include malfeasance on the part of cops. I get it, I actually do not trust the police for the most part, but that is because I know what African Americans refuse to acknowledge, it isn't just the African American community that they do this to...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 19, 2014 My question is why your side automatically discounts the authority figure's account every time. Every time you are proven wrong. Being justified to shoot is a different issue than the account of what happened. I think "his side" has been the one saying we don't know which side is true. While "your side" is generally always on the side of cop and always claims kid is a hopped up thug before any information comes out to corroborate that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 19, 2014 Mdc et al are counting his robbery partner in crimes story, ya know the skinny illiterate tattooed kid who disappeared for 3 days, lawyered up, and then went to the media with his "story" before even contacting investigators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted August 19, 2014 I think "his side" has been the one saying we don't know which side is true. While "your side" is generally always on the side of cop and always claims kid is a hopped up thug before any information comes out to corroborate that. OK, now that assertion is so untrue as to be offensively incorrect. IN fact, the exact opposite has been true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 808 Posted August 19, 2014 Correct. It is not clear exactly who that person was, which is why I stated that none of this is yet vetted or checked (to my knowledge) but the corroboration of this story with and other witnesses is compelling, as is the lack of corroboration in the competing story. I agree with you that this story is so fantastic as to be beyond belief, it does not pass the smell test. Somewhere in the middle is likely the real story, and I suspect that the story is a sad series of misjudgments and/or mistakes. I'll hold my opinion as to this case as we don't know until the official reports come out from IA or whomever is handling the shooting. I have however had some fun with this thread and you experts in shooting, fighting in the streets, and how someone reacts when confronted by the police. It's not fantastic that someone would hollar for the cops to shoot them. It's not fantastic in the slightest that someone would charge the armed officer. Both things happen daily Along with dirt track experts expert, looks like we can add forensics experts, criminial psychologists, and public corruption squad to our list. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 19, 2014 OK, now that assertion is so untrue as to be offensively incorrect. IN fact, the exact opposite has been true. How so? Look at the mostly "right" leaning posters (and for some reason this is divided on the seemingly political lines of this board). Drobeski, Timmy, RP (and his aliases)...from the start have made this about animals, Jordans, thugs, drugged up kid who assaulted an officer and was looking for an altercation. They have nearly 100% been convinced this was a drugged up thug who came at the officer and the officer fired in self defense only. They have mostly not given even acknowledgement that the officer could have been in the wrong at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,504 Posted August 19, 2014 My question is why your side automatically discounts the authority figure's account every time. Every time you are proven wrong. Being justified to shoot is a different issue than the account of what happened. I wouldn't discount the cop's story if I thought it was plausible. The idea that this guy assaulted the cop, reached for his weapon, ran and then changed his mind and charged a police officer he know was armed and willing to shoot is hard to swallow. If he were full of PCP or something I'd be more willing to buy it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted August 19, 2014 How so? Look at the mostly "right" leaning posters (and for some reason this is divided on the seemingly political lines of this board). Drobeski, Timmy, RP (and his aliases)...from the start have made this about animals, Jordans, thugs, drugged up kid who assaulted an officer and was looking for an altercation. They have nearly 100% been convinced this was a drugged up thug who came at the officer and the officer fired in self defense only. They have mostly not given even acknowledgement that the officer could have been in the wrong at all. I am referring to those individuals who have been, and continue to use the media to champion notions such as the kid had his arms up, was surrendering, etc. I do not subscribe to very much of what is posted here. There is plenty if widely varying "witness" accounts from the location of the event, most of it is equally as fantastic as the emerging story from the police, and none of it corroborates well enough to be trusted. Meanwhile, a strong narrative is developing from witnesses that this kid assaulted, ran, then turned and attempted to assault again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted August 19, 2014 I'll hold my opinion as to this case as we don't know until the official reports come out from IA or whomever is handling the shooting. I have however had some fun with this thread and you experts in shooting, fighting in the streets, and how someone reacts when confronted by the police. It's not fantastic that someone would hollar for the cops to shoot them. It's not fantastic in the slightest that someone would charge the armed officer. Both things happen daily Along with dirt track experts expert, looks like we can add forensics experts, criminial psychologists, and public corruption squad to our list. You may have more insight and direct knowlege of this stuff. Since I know that I do not see it everyday, and am something of a reasonable person with no issues of accountability, to me its just crazy. Perhaps my bubble prevents me from seeing the bigger picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JT 137 Posted August 19, 2014 I'll hold my opinion as to this case as we don't know until the official reports come out from IA or whomever is handling the shooting. I have however had some fun with this thread and you experts in shooting, fighting in the streets, and how someone reacts when confronted by the police. It's not fantastic that someone would hollar for the cops to shoot them. It's not fantastic in the slightest that someone would charge the armed officer. Both things happen daily Along with dirt track experts expert, looks like we can add forensics experts, criminial psychologists, and public corruption squad to our list. By and large, they don't appear to give a sh!te what happened and will say whatever pops into their minds to try and further what has become the purpose of this sad focking place: to turn each topic into either a political or racial divide, parting the sea of nitwits who seemingly live to taunt each other. The only difference between them and junior high girls is that the jr high girls actually know each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 3,573 Posted August 19, 2014 I am referring to those individuals who have been, and continue to use the media to champion notions such as the kid had his arms up, was surrendering... I've heard that Brown had his hands in the air. What is unclear, at least at this point, is was he or was he not waving them like he just didn't care? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted August 19, 2014 I can't believe the number of people on this bored that will take the werd of a bunch of animals over that of a police officer. If you live in an area where the cops are that dirty, you should prolly move. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted August 19, 2014 I can't believe the number of people on this bored that will take the werd of a bunch of animals over that of a police officer. If you live in an area where the cops are that dirty, you should prolly move. as snuffles pointed out, its down party lines....they side with the criminal, everytime...anything to push the racism narrative.Hacks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted August 19, 2014 I've heard that Brown had his hands in the air. What is unclear, at least at this point, is was he or was he not waving them like he just didn't care? You owe me a new keyboard........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,087 Posted August 19, 2014 as snuffles pointed out, its down party lines....they side with the criminal, everytime...anything to push the racism narrative. Hacks It's focking pathetic. Then they try and turn it as everyone else is to blame for racism. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted August 19, 2014 I think "his side" has been the one saying we don't know which side is true. While "your side" is generally always on the side of cop and always claims kid is a hopped up thug before any information comes out to corroborate that. My side, believing the story of the more trusted person has always come out to be true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted August 19, 2014 My side, believing the story of the more trusted person has always come out to be true. Meh, I am tepid on this, I think cops lie just as well as anyone else, and will do so to save their arse in a heartbeat. Let's not assign too much integrity to the cop. I recall an instance in 2006 when an African American police officer shot an unarmed man in his front yard, killing him. Ultimately, the county had to pay the family like $2million because the story produced by the cop turned out to be not true. Curiously enough, white people in the area did not burn their local stores or attack police......I guess they were taught how to act by their parents, unlike the folks in Ferguson, or Michael Brown.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 19, 2014 I am referring to those individuals who have been, and continue to use the media to champion notions such as the kid had his arms up, was surrendering, etc. I do not subscribe to very much of what is posted here. There is plenty if widely varying "witness" accounts from the location of the event, most of it is equally as fantastic as the emerging story from the police, and none of it corroborates well enough to be trusted. Meanwhile, a strong narrative is developing from witnesses that this kid assaulted, ran, then turned and attempted to assault again. Who is doing what you claim as far as arms being up and using the media in such a way? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 19, 2014 I can't believe the number of people on this bored that will take the werd of a bunch of animals over that of a police officer. If you live in an area where the cops are that dirty, you should prolly move. So anyone that thinks the officer may have acted in the wrong are animals? I think for the most part cops do a very good job and are not dirty. There are some who are very gung ho and don't always react in the proper manner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 19, 2014 as snuffles pointed out, its down party lines....they side with the criminal, everytime...anything to push the racism narrative. Hacks A. Who is siding with the criminal? B. Who is pushing race other than those who continue to use the word animals? Psst...you keep trying these things...but you continually post things that simply are not what is being said by anyone in these threads. You are the biggest hack ever and this is just one of many reasons why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted August 19, 2014 Who is doing what you claim as far as arms being up and using the media in such a way? The Brown family in particular, along with their cohorts seeking to use this event as a vehicle for continued notoriety, did you happen to catch this on CNN this past weekend? Is was equal part laughable and repugnant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 19, 2014 My side, believing the story of the more trusted person has always come out to be true. Not sure a cop involved in killing someone is always the most trusted...especially if he may have not handled it all properly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Googballz 39 Posted August 19, 2014 So anyone that thinks the officer may have acted in the wrong are animals? You don't read too good. That isn't what he said. He said "take the word of animals", such as the dead thug's accomplice in the earlier robbery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted August 19, 2014 The Brown family in particular, along with their cohorts seeking to use this event as a vehicle for continues notoriety, did you happen to catch this on CNN this past weekend? Is was equal part laughable and repugnant. Im talking about this thread...my post that you responded to was about posters here. Not about what the Brown family is saying. I don't listen to much of what they say as they are going to paint their child in the best light possible despite his own wrong doings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,254 Posted August 19, 2014 Im talking about this thread...my post that you responded to was about posters here. Not about what the Brown family is saying. I don't listen to much of what they say as they are going to paint their child in the best light possible despite his own wrong doings. Gotcha, I mostly discard anything posted here, it is interesting to hear thoughts, but generally the opinions here are too one-sided to apply anything other than entertainment value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted August 19, 2014 I'm guessing the truth lies somewhere in the middle here. Middle of the street. Dead center. Maybe dead offensive guard. Somewhere on the line. On the yellow line for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites