Situation in Ferguson, MO

[Eaglesin14 12]

Gov. of MO says there needs to be a "vigorous prosecution" in this case.

Good to see he isn't jumping the gun and fanning the flames.

Sure he didn't say persecution?

[bandrus1 413]

AMERICA!!

 

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/articles/2014/8/18/police-to-al-jazeerajournalistinfergusonillbustyourass.html?utm_content=general&utm_campaign=ajam&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow

[Eaglesin14 12]

AMERICA!!

 

http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/articles/2014/8/18/police-to-al-jazeerajournalistinfergusonillbustyourass.html?utm_content=general&utm_campaign=ajam&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=SocialFlow

You seem unhappy here. Maybe you should try Libya or Syria.

[bandrus1 413]

You seem unhappy here. Maybe you should try Libya or Syria.

 

 

mehh I think they have similar policies... Movers are expensive

[Eaglesin14 12]

mehh I think they have similar policies... Movers are expensive

 

Beheading journalists is very similar to telling them to move on down the road.

[bandrus1 413]

You use some great logic

 

Hey it doesnt matter how bad things get here at least its better than Syria..

 

 

wonderful

[drobeski 3,061]

WSJ's Jason Riley: "Let's not pretend" our morgue:

[drobeski 3,061]

http://www.americanthinker.com/assets/3rd_party/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/08/our_new_america.html

 

August 20, 2014

Our New America

By Carol Brown

The left advances their meme irrespective of whether it is rooted in truth, or not. There are powerful forces at work in the process, from the Obama administration to the media and so on down the line.

We are seeing this play out in Ferguson as the left is stoking the fire of a race war based on nothing more than their intention to do so. And they’re ratcheting up the rhetoric in anticipation of the grand jury meeting that is scheduled for today.

That justice will be served in this case seems more and more unlikely as the left has redefined “justice” to suit their objectives. Pressure is being brought to bear from all corners and the message is the same: white people cannot be trusted and neither can the criminal justice system.

And so, for example, you have a call from many quarters for Bob McCulloch, St. Louis County State Prosecutor, to be removed from the case. McCulloch was elected by the predominantly black community of Ferguson four times, including when he ran against an opponent who was black. But now, suddenly, he’s being painted as unfit and biased. Per a report in The Washington Post:

In addition, St. Louis County’s chief executive and other local black leaders have said they believe the county prosecutor is not fit to handle the case. That’s because McCulloch’s father, a police officer, was killed in the line of duty when the prosecutor was 12 years old. McCulloch is white. The man who shot his father was black.

McCulloch has declined to step aside and has said his father’s death will not affect his judgment. On Tuesday, Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon (D) said he has not asked McCulloch to recuse himself from the case.

His investigation of Brown’s death is being monitored by the Justice Department and the FBI, which are also investigating the shooting in an expanding federal probe that has yielded more than 200 interviews. Holder will arrive in Ferguson on Wednesday to meet with federal prosecutors and agents.

The Justice Department is monitoring his investigation? How utterly inappropriate, disrespectful, and undermining.

Meanwhile, other media outlets have cited McCulloch’s long family connection to law enforcement. The State reports:

The Missouri prosecutor overseeing an investigation into the fatal shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown has deep family roots among police: his father, mother, brother, uncle and cousin all worked for St. Louis’ police department...

The connections now are being cited by some local residents and black leaders who question whether St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch can remain impartial.

As if this seasoned professional cannot be counted on to do his job properly because he comes from a family of police officers. (And God bless them all.)

Next up we have Missouri’s Governor Jay Nixon – a coward caving to pressure – stating that “a vigorous prosecution must now be pursued.” Not an “investigation” as a grand jury is charged with doing. Governor Nixon is telling the grand jury to skip the investigation and prosecute.

Then we have the master manipulator himself, Eric Holder, who is sticking his fingers into the pot and stirring it. He has no business in Ferguson. So of course he’s there. Making things worse instead of better. Making Things Worse is the Obama administration’s brand, as it were.

Holder was the focus of an interview with J. Christian Adams this week when Adams was interviewed by Megan Kelly. Adams noted that Holder “has carried around in his wallet for 30 years a quote that says he shares common cause with the black criminal.”

It makes perfect sense in light of who Holder is. But it still gives one pause to think that the Attorney General of the United States identifies with criminals.

Adams went on to say:

This is an Attorney General who has a Civil Rights division that has been engaged in a war against police departments around this country…. They cannot be trusted. They’re ideologues. They do not like the police.

Adams described Holder’s Civil Rights division as invested in going to places like Ferguson and taking sides with the lawless against law abiding citizens, noting that this is a “trend” which he anticipates will play out in Ferguson.

Kelly then read a statement made by Missouri State Senator, Jamilah Nasheed:

If you should decide to not indict this police officer, the rioting we have witnessed this past week will seem like a picnic compared to the havoc that will likely occur.

To which Adams responded: “It’s a new America we’re living in, Megan.”

Indeed.

We’re in uncharted territory folks, because we are up against enormous forces that have the potential to thoroughly overwhelm us if every single person is not invested in giving this fight their all.

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[Googballz 39]

http://www.americanthinker.com/assets/3rd_party/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/08/our_new_america.html

 

August 20, 2014

 

Our New America

By Carol Brown

 

The left advances their meme irrespective of whether it is rooted in truth, or not. There are powerful forces at work in the process, from the Obama administration to the media and so on down the line.

We are seeing this play out in Ferguson as the left is stoking the fire of a race war based on nothing more than their intention to do so. And they’re ratcheting up the rhetoric in anticipation of the grand jury meeting that is scheduled for today.

That justice will be served in this case seems more and more unlikely as the left has redefined “justice” to suit their objectives. Pressure is being brought to bear from all corners and the message is the same: white people cannot be trusted and neither can the criminal justice system.

And so, for example, you have a call from many quarters for Bob McCulloch, St. Louis County State Prosecutor, to be removed from the case. McCulloch was elected by the predominantly black community of Ferguson four times, including when he ran against an opponent who was black. But now, suddenly, he’s being painted as unfit and biased. Per a report in The Washington Post:

 

In addition, St. Louis County’s chief executive and other local black leaders have said they believe the county prosecutor is not fit to handle the case. That’s because McCulloch’s father, a police officer, was killed in the line of duty when the prosecutor was 12 years old. McCulloch is white. The man who shot his father was black.

McCulloch has declined to step aside and has said his father’s death will not affect his judgment. On Tuesday, Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon (D) said he has not asked McCulloch to recuse himself from the case.

His investigation of Brown’s death is being monitored by the Justice Department and the FBI, which are also investigating the shooting in an expanding federal probe that has yielded more than 200 interviews. Holder will arrive in Ferguson on Wednesday to meet with federal prosecutors and agents.

 

The Justice Department is monitoring his investigation? How utterly inappropriate, disrespectful, and undermining.

Meanwhile, other media outlets have cited McCulloch’s long family connection to law enforcement. The State reports:

 

The Missouri prosecutor overseeing an investigation into the fatal shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown has deep family roots among police: his father, mother, brother, uncle and cousin all worked for St. Louis’ police department...

The connections now are being cited by some local residents and black leaders who question whether St. Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Bob McCulloch can remain impartial.

 

As if this seasoned professional cannot be counted on to do his job properly because he comes from a family of police officers. (And God bless them all.)

Next up we have Missouri’s Governor Jay Nixon – a coward caving to pressure – stating that “a vigorous prosecution must now be pursued.” Not an “investigation” as a grand jury is charged with doing. Governor Nixon is telling the grand jury to skip the investigation and prosecute.

Then we have the master manipulator himself, Eric Holder, who is sticking his fingers into the pot and stirring it. He has no business in Ferguson. So of course he’s there. Making things worse instead of better. Making Things Worse is the Obama administration’s brand, as it were.

Holder was the focus of an interview with J. Christian Adams this week when Adams was interviewed by Megan Kelly. Adams noted that Holder “has carried around in his wallet for 30 years a quote that says he shares common cause with the black criminal.”

It makes perfect sense in light of who Holder is. But it still gives one pause to think that the Attorney General of the United States identifies with criminals.

Adams went on to say:

 

This is an Attorney General who has a Civil Rights division that has been engaged in a war against police departments around this country…. They cannot be trusted. They’re ideologues. They do not like the police.

 

Adams described Holder’s Civil Rights division as invested in going to places like Ferguson and taking sides with the lawless against law abiding citizens, noting that this is a “trend” which he anticipates will play out in Ferguson.

Kelly then read a statement made by Missouri State Senator, Jamilah Nasheed:

 

If you should decide to not indict this police officer, the rioting we have witnessed this past week will seem like a picnic compared to the havoc that will likely occur.

 

To which Adams responded: “It’s a new America we’re living in, Megan.”

Indeed.

We’re in uncharted territory folks, because we are up against enormous forces that have the potential to thoroughly overwhelm us if every single person is not invested in giving this fight their all.

 

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The truth doesn't seem to be on their agenda.

[Drizzay 723]

Is this still a thing?

[Cruzer 1,995]

I tried to watch CNN and Erin Burnett last night to catch up on the story. But I couldn't stop staring at her awesome t!ts and missed what she was saying.

[joeshushu 51]

I tried to watch CNN and Erin Burnett last night to catch up on the story. But I couldn't stop staring at her awesome t!ts and missed what she was saying.

I liked her when she was with Kramer on CNBC.

[posty 2,714]

Support Officer Darren Wilson...

 

http://www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson

 

$207,000 as of this post...

 

[NorthernVike 2,087]

Support Officer Darren Wilson...

 

http://www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson

 

 

 

$207,000 as of this post...

 

White Pride

[Voltaire 5,322]

Support Officer Darren Wilson...

 

http://www.gofundme.com/SupportOfficerWilson

 

$207,000 as of this post...

 

Are there really still people around who don't hate cops? They must not have gotten the "Police are the Debbil" memo we're all supposed to enthusiastically endorse.

[Voltaire 5,322]

http://www.ibtimes.com/darren-wilson-supporters-raise-more-fund-michael-brown-gofundme-1665950

 

Darren Wilson's fund takes the lead in fundraising over the thief/jaywalker's fund.

 

There is hope for America after all.

[NorthernVike 2,087]

http://www.ibtimes.com/darren-wilson-supporters-raise-more-fund-michael-brown-gofundme-1665950

 

Darren Wilson's fund takes the lead in fundraising over the thief/jaywalker's fund.

 

There is hope for America after all.

 

 

 

Also, are the animals still at it?

[IGotWorms 4,059]

WASHINGTON Jolted by images of protesters clashing with heavily armed police officers in Missouri, President Obama has ordered a comprehensive review of the governments decade-old strategy of outfitting local police departments with military-grade body armor, mine-resistant trucks, silencers and automatic rifles, senior officials say.

 

The White House-led review will consider whether the government should continue providing such equipment and, if so, whether local authorities have sufficient training to use it appropriately, said senior administration and law enforcement officials. The government will also consider whether it is keeping a close enough watch on equipment inventories, and how the weapons and other gear are used.

 

The review, coupled with proposed legislation and planned congressional hearings, opens the possibility for significant changes in Washingtons approach to arming local law enforcement agencies. Following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the government regarded the police as the frontline forces in a new war. While that role for local law enforcement is expected to remain, changes may be ordered to the system under which federal grants and a military surplus program have sent gear and money to police departments, often with no strings attached, to prepare for a terrorist attack.

 

America got a glimpse of that gear over the past two weeks in Ferguson, Mo., as police officers in full body armor rode military-style vehicles, firing tear gas and pointing assault rifles at protesters. Like departments nationwide, the police in the St. Louis area have been outfitted by federal grants and military surplus.

 

Let's try to keep our neighborhood streets from looking like Baghdad

[Googballz 39]

 

Let's try to keep our neighborhood streets from looking like Baghdad

Good idea your hero has there, Worms.

 

Let's make sure the good guys aren't better equipped than the thugs just because of this incident. Makes perfect sense since Obama thinks Israel's response to terrorist attacks are disproportionate to what they endure.

[JTB 52]

Let's try to keep our neighborhood streets from looking like Baghdad

Still against the good guys arming themselves per the 2nd Ammendment?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Still against the good guys arming themselves per the 2nd Ammendment?

 

2nd amendment says something about the government outfitting local police with military grade equipment?

[Googballz 39]

 

2nd amendment says something about the government outfitting local police with military grade equipment?

Yes.

[Voltaire 5,322]

2nd Amendment:

 

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. - See more at: http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment2.html#sthash.0oTTdeOC.dpuf

 

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How do I read this? Well first we don't have militias anymore which makes it awkward. But who would have been in the militia? Any able bodied male above 18 who wasn't a criminal or mentally unstable. Since this is 2014 and we can't extend rights to men and not women, throw women in as well.

 

The last bit says 'the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed'. That, to me, means that -militia or no-anybody over 18 who isn't nuts or a criminal can have a gun.

 

The first bit talks about the militia being well regulated. Well, again there's no more militia but if there were, it would be well regulated. And who would do the regulating? It's necessary to the security of a free state. I think free state means state government but if the courts decided the locals and the feds constitute the free state, I have no beef with that.

 

So, to me, the state government (and maybe the feds and local government) can regulate guns so long as the overall right of citizens to keep them is maintained.

[Sho Nuff 720]

2nd Amendment:

 

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. - See more at: http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment2.html#sthash.0oTTdeOC.dpuf

 

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How do I read this? Well first we don't have militias anymore which makes it awkward. But who would have been in the militia? Any able bodied male above 18 who wasn't a criminal or mentally unstable. Since this is 2014 and we can't extend rights to men and not women, throw women in as well.

 

The last bit says 'the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed'. That, to me, means that -militia or no-anybody over 18 who isn't nuts or a criminal can have a gun.

 

The first bit talks about the militia being well regulated. Well, again there's no more militia but if there were, it would be well regulated. And who would do the regulating? It's necessary to the security of a free state. I think free state means state government but if the courts decided the locals and the feds constitute the free state, I have no beef with that.

 

So, to me, the state government (and maybe the feds and local government) can regulate guns so long as the overall right of citizens to keep them is maintained.

 

That is because you are taking a logical and common sense approach to it.

[IGotWorms 4,059]

Still against the good guys arming themselves per the 2nd Ammendment?

What?

[The Moz 69]

that kid should of just watched this video and everything would of been fine.

 

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=575727099190133

[porkbutt 893]

kid should have never made it to the cop. store clerk should have shot the focker. would there have been outrage if that were the case?

[IGotWorms 4,059]

kid should have never made it to the cop. store clerk should have shot the focker. would there have been outrage if that were the case?

You can't use deadly force in defense of property.

[Googballz 39]

 

 

You can't use deadly force in defense of property.

 

Clerk: "I was in fear of my life. The guy attacked me. Here, look at this tape"

 

No bill!

[crackattack 520]

You can't use deadly force in defense of property.

I think that argument changes once the "gentle giant" started putting his hands on the store owner.

[porkbutt 893]

You can't use deadly force in defense of property.

so people can just walk in stores, take what they want and then ###### slap you?

 

people can just break in your house, punch you in the face and start taking sh;t and you cant do anything? ur silly

 

i'd love to seen that clerk shoot the focker after he shoved him.

[Mungwater 597]

so people can just walk in stores, take what they want and then ###### slap you?

 

people can just break in your house, punch you in the face and start taking sh;t and you cant do anything? ur silly

 

i'd love to seen that clerk shoot the focker after he shoved him.

Depends on the state, a store compared to your house is apples and oranges though.

[IGotWorms 4,059]

so people can just walk in stores, take what they want and then ###### slap you?

 

people can just break in your house, punch you in the face and start taking sh;t and you cant do anything? ur silly

 

i'd love to seen that clerk shoot the focker after he shoved him.

Homes are typically treated differently - you have much greater rights to use force in that situation, and for good reason

[porkbutt 893]

whats the good reason?

 

a business i built and operated for 25 years...my livelihood...anyone can just come in and take anything they want and b;tich slap me in the process...and i just sit there and take it? hahahaa

[Googballz 39]

Homes are typically treated differently - you have much greater rights to use force in that situation, and for good reason

If you are being attacked and are in fear of your life it doesn't matter where you are.

[posty 2,714]

Man some people are just clueless...

 

@JessicaValenti · 3h

Brown trying drugs/alcohol, shoplifting or rapping (!) does not mean "he was no angel." It means he was a teenager. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/us/michael-brown-spent-last-weeks-grappling-with-lifes-mysteries.html …

 

https://twitter.com/JessicaValenti/status/503900661332049920

[IGotWorms 4,059]

If you are being attacked and are in fear of your life it doesn't matter where you are.

Yes, we were discussing a scenario where force is used in defense of PROPERTY. Try to keep up

[IGotWorms 4,059]

Man some people are just clueless...

 

@JessicaValenti · 3h

Brown trying drugs/alcohol, shoplifting or rapping (!) does not mean "he was no angel." It means he was a teenager. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/us/michael-brown-spent-last-weeks-grappling-with-lifes-mysteries.html

 

https://twitter.com/JessicaValenti/status/503900661332049920

Would be true except for assaulting a clerk in the midst of a brazen act of shoplifting. Not exactly typical teenage behavior there. We all did dumb sh!t in our formative years but that is next level

[Googballz 39]

Yes, we were discussing a scenario where force is used in defense of PROPERTY. Try to keep up

No, we were discussing the store clerk. Self defense is the issue there. I'm shocked legal stuff stumps you so easily.

[IGotWorms 4,059]

No, we were discussing the store clerk. Self defense is the issue there. I'm shocked legal stuff stumps you so easily.

I don't think you know what self defense means vis-a-vis use of deadly force