Sobering experiment

[shotsup 835]

This. It's what seperates the boys from the possays!

 

 

[jerryskids 7,118]

This. It's what seperates the boys from the possays!

Problem is that you guys seem to lack the ability to count, even when you try. I was just trying to help make the competition feasible. Oh well, go drink a bunch of beers and do a bunch of shots and make up numbers.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Problem is that you guys seem to lack the ability to count, even when you try. I was just trying to help make the competition feasible. Oh well, go drink a bunch of beers and do a bunch of shots and make up numbers.

Well, there are two ways to verify number of shots taken.

 

1. Everyone starts with a fresh bottle. With a seal on it. A shot being two ounces, one can figure out by how much is left.

 

(And the bottle has to be sealed to prevent the old put water in a vodka bottle trick)

 

2. Number the shot glasses, line them up, and go toe to toe.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,642]

Problem is that you guys seem to lack the ability to count, even when you try. I was just trying to help make the competition feasible. Oh well, go drink a bunch of beers and do a bunch of shots and make up numbers.

Take your tampon out and enjoy a few Nancy!!! You can't help us. Only we can help us. Your not one of us. Sorry bud!

[jerryskids 7,118]

Take your tampon out and enjoy a few Nancy!!! You can't help us. Only we can help us. Your not one of us. Sorry bud!

There was a time when I was one of you. Now I'm not although I still drink probably more than I should. I readily admit that I'm no longer in that group, and there is no need to apologize as I don't want to go back to that place. Enjoy.

[shotsup 835]

This thread was supposed to get me sober now you guys are coming up with ways for me to drink more. Love it. Hah!

 

[Sho Nuff 720]

Take your tampon out and enjoy a few Nancy!!! You can't help us. Only we can help us. Your not one of us. Sorry bud!

 

 

Not sure why anyone would want to be one of you.

[Mike Honcho 5,474]

I drink massive amounts of water during the day

 

And 3 cups of coffee

 

Bout the same as my routine, though I don't know exactly how many cups of coffee I drink, I just stop completely at noon each.

[KSB2424 3,174]

I drank two glasses of wine last night with dinner and then two IPA's while switching back between the NFL game and the NHL Hurricanes. I woke up with a headache and a little groggy.

 

How the hell you guys do what you do every day is crazy to me.

[Mike Honcho 5,474]

Right, might as well maximize it!

 

Plus, cirrhosis is a great way to die.

 

Best friend died of cirrhosis at 39---not fun.

[TD Ryan2 316]

shots, MDC, Bunny... jerry (maybe?)... I could not physically consume all that alcohol... not anymore anyways.

BEWARE... I have a family member that was a functioning alcoholic his whole life - very successful man, smoking wife, big house, great kids... he's in his 60s now and his health is a disaster, he looks 80 and he's frail. And it's the alcohol. He still can't stop drinking and it's destroying his life, his marriage, his relationships with his children and (new) grandchildren.

Everyone know this was the life he chose and it was fine for 30 years or so. But not now. Not now that he's older. There is a feeling that none of us can really help him - what can we do? It is accepted now... always the 'elephant in the room' when he's around. It's a combination of pity, sadness, and frustration towards him - he drank too much his whole life and now his older self can't handle it.

And here's the catch: he's actually better (physically) with the booze in him - he looks better, sounds better, etc. But it's only a matter of time before his vital organs shut down. He's gonna be dead before he gets to see a grandchild start school and a youngest child graduate college.

I fear this is the fate many of you have signed up for.

[Mike Honcho 5,474]

For a while,I've been worried that the 1 or 2 7&7's, I drink a night were becoming a problem, but now I feel a lot better about myself.

[OldMaid 2,136]

While I love Shots and Bunny both... I think it's incredibly selfish what they're doing. You have children for Christ's sake!!!

 

Is this the life you would want for them? Because kids of alcoholics have a greater chance of becoming one themselves. And neither one of you are setting an example on how to fight back against it.

 

And how messed up do you think they'll be knowing that Daddy drank himself to death? Or that you didn't care enough to be around for them or their grandkids?

 

Addiction is hard. I get it... but not as hard as your addicted brain makes it out to be. Don't you realize that all those excuses you make are designed to keep you drinking? That's how it works. You have to be able to see through that.

 

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh... but it may be time for some tough love.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

While I love Shots and Bunny both... I think it's incredibly selfish what they're doing. You have children for Christ's sake!!!

 

Is this the life you would want for them? Because kids of alcoholics have a greater chance of becoming one themselves. And neither one of you are setting an example on how to fight back against it.

 

And how messed up do you think they'll be knowing that Daddy drank himself to death? Or that you didn't care enough to be around for them or their grandkids?

 

Addiction is hard. I get it... but not as hard as your addicted brain makes it out to be. Don't you realize that all those excuses you make are designed to keep you drinking? That's how it works. You have to be able to see through that.

 

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh... but it may be time for some tough love.

I tried this a year or two ago and now both of them pretty much hate me. But good luck, you are in the right here

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh... but it may be time for some tough love.

They definitely want some tough love. Maybe if you used a strap-on on shotsup and blew Bunny to completion.

[Mike Honcho 5,474]

I tried this a year or two ago and now both of them pretty much hate me. But good luck, you are in the right here

 

On the bright side...you probably won't have to live with their anger much longer.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,642]

 

 

Not sure why anyone would want to be one of you.

 

 

Following conservatives around a low end fantasy football message bored everyday is living the high life?

[drobeski 3,061]

 

 

Following conservatives around a low end fantasy football message bored everyday is living the high life?

come on man, he doesn't do that

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[penultimatestraw 473]

shots, MDC, Bunny... jerry (maybe?)... I could not physically consume all that alcohol... not anymore anyways.

BEWARE... I have a family member that was a functioning alcoholic his whole life - very successful man, smoking wife, big house, great kids... he's in his 60s now and his health is a disaster, he looks 80 and he's frail. And it's the alcohol. He still can't stop drinking and it's destroying his life, his marriage, his relationships with his children and (new) grandchildren.

Everyone know this was the life he chose and it was fine for 30 years or so. But not now. Not now that he's older. There is a feeling that none of us can really help him - what can we do? It is accepted now... always the 'elephant in the room' when he's around. It's a combination of pity, sadness, and frustration towards him - he drank too much his whole life and now his older self can't handle it.

And here's the catch: he's actually better (physically) with the booze in him - he looks better, sounds better, etc. But it's only a matter of time before his vital organs shut down. He's gonna be dead before he gets to see a grandchild start school and a youngest child graduate college.

I fear this is the fate many of you have signed up for.

That's the catch with a lot of chronic illnesses. People assume they'll kill you quickly, and sometimes they do. But more often, you've got 10-20 years of suffering in exchange for the 20 you were fine overindulging. I'd rather maximize the time my body works well, and miss out on all the fun.

[porkbutt 897]

i drink 2-3 lite beers almost every night. maybe a couple more on the weekends. never touch shots or hard stuff. haven't been "drunk" in 15 years.

 

alcoholic?

[penultimatestraw 473]

i drink 2-3 lite beers almost every night. maybe a couple more on the weekends. never touch shots or hard stuff. haven't been "drunk" in 15 years.

 

alcoholic?

Probably not. Likely "at risk" drinking behavior.

[MTSkiBum 1,626]

I drink 0-2 beers on weeknights, probably average a beer a night and 4-6 beers a night on the weekends.

 

Surprisingly that puts me in the top 20% of adults when it comes to drinking.

[drobeski 3,061]

1-2 light beers with dinner. 8-10 while playing poker on Thursdays, a couple of shots if I'm at a bar on weekends.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,433]

I am a big alcoholic, but not so much that it is going to kill me like Bunny and shots. I will have a 2-3 vodka and soda drinks probably 4-5 nights a week. Sometimes that turns into 4-6 of those, but even I call them lushes.

[penultimatestraw 473]

I drink 0-2 beers on weeknights, probably average a beer a night and 4-6 beers a night on the weekends.

 

Surprisingly that puts me in the top 20% of adults when it comes to drinking.

Not surprising at all. Most adults realize alcohol isn't that important in their day-to-day existence.

[penultimatestraw 473]

I am a big alcoholic, but not so much that it is going to kill me like Bunny and shots. I will have a 2-3 vodka and soda drinks probably 4-5 nights a week. Sometimes that turns into 4-6 of those, but even I call them lushes.

That liquor goes right to your hips.

[MTSkiBum 1,626]

Not surprising at all. Most adults realize alcohol isn't that important in their day-to-day existence.

 

I have a different theory.

 

 

Since everyone at the geek club is successful, intelligent, high earners. It is only natural that we tend to drink more than the average population:

 

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201010/why-intelligent-people-drink-more-alcohol

[TD Ryan2 316]

Not surprising at all. Most adults realize alcohol isn't that important in their day-to-day existence.

alcohol is a simple pleasure for me now... kinda' like chocolate, a good steak, good coffee, or a fine cigar.

 

I'll occasionally have a nice scotch on a weeknight after an especially stressful work day - in that application it is both medicinal and the simple, slow enjoyment of a fine dram helps take the edge off the day and maybe even celebrates getting thru the grind.

 

And on not-so-stressful days, if I'm having a whisky or three, it's to celebrate or enjoy the moment - a drink in that environment, for me, is typically an accessory to an already enjoyable time/place/event.

[jerryskids 7,118]

That liquor goes right to your hips.

I'm pretty sure that the alcohol itself isn't metabolized (if that is the proper word) into fat. Sugary mixers and beer carbs though... I feel like we've had this discussion before.

[BunnysBastatrds 2,642]

I'm pretty sure that the alcohol itself isn't metabolized (if that is the proper word) into fat. Sugary mixers and beer carbs though... I feel like we've had this discussion before.

 

 

I always figured that there was a lot of H2o in beer. No?

[jerryskids 7,118]

shots, MDC, Bunny... jerry (maybe?)... I could not physically consume all that alcohol... not anymore anyways.

BEWARE... I have a family member that was a functioning alcoholic his whole life - very successful man, smoking wife, big house, great kids... he's in his 60s now and his health is a disaster, he looks 80 and he's frail. And it's the alcohol. He still can't stop drinking and it's destroying his life, his marriage, his relationships with his children and (new) grandchildren.

Everyone know this was the life he chose and it was fine for 30 years or so. But not now. Not now that he's older. There is a feeling that none of us can really help him - what can we do? It is accepted now... always the 'elephant in the room' when he's around. It's a combination of pity, sadness, and frustration towards him - he drank too much his whole life and now his older self can't handle it.

And here's the catch: he's actually better (physically) with the booze in him - he looks better, sounds better, etc. But it's only a matter of time before his vital organs shut down. He's gonna be dead before he gets to see a grandchild start school and a youngest child graduate college.

I fear this is the fate many of you have signed up for.

Not sure why I'm (maybe) on this list. I drink about 60% of a bottle of red wine most nights, which is 3 glasses. Weekends is more like 4 glasses.

 

In fact, my wife and kids are out of town last night and I ended up drinking most of the bottle (there is a natural stopping point when you share it and it runs out, and I wasn't paying attention). I felt it this morning.

 

I can't drink like I used to, which is a good thing.

[TD Ryan2 316]

I couldn't remember if you talked about drinking too much jerry.... (maybe?)

 

 

you make a list, you bi@tch... you don't make a list, you bi@tch!

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

 

Following conservatives around a low end fantasy football message bored everyday is living the high life?

 

I was talking about the drinking.

But Id take a life that I have in good health and not having to drink that much to sleep rather than being a drunk righty hack who can't take politics out of any conversation apparently.

[jerryskids 7,118]

I couldn't remember if you talked about drinking too much jerry.... (maybe?)

 

 

you make a list, you bi@tch... you don't make a list, you bi@tch!

Maybe if you didn't drink so much you would remember.

[shotsup 835]

Thanks for the kind words OM. Here's the deal.

 

My father died at the young age of 44 (yes he drank but he also smoked 3 packs a day for more then 20+ years).

 

My early goal was to out live him and I did. However when I had kids my goal changed to outlive him by 20 years. I think 64 is a good age to go out.

 

My youngest boy will be 30 at that time. Hopefully by then they will both be successful and I can bow out.

 

In the regret thread I said I didn't regret anything. Well I guess I do, I regret that I never had the chance to really drink with my dad. That makes me sad.

 

Do I want my kids to drink ? Hell no.

 

See I have a plan. Now you can go back to ripping me apart.

 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Thanks for the kind words OM. Here's the deal.

 

My father died at the young age of 44 (yes he drank but he also smoked 3 packs a day for more then 20+ years).

 

My early goal was to out live him and I did. However when I had kids my goal changed to outlive him by 20 years. I think 64 is a good age to go out.

 

My youngest boy will be 30 at that time. Hopefully by then they will both be successful and I can bow out.

 

In the regret thread I said I didn't regret anything. Well I guess I do, I regret that I never had the chance to really drink with my dad. That makes me sad.

 

Do I want my kids to drink ? Hell no.

 

See I have a plan. Now you can go back to ripping me apart.

 

But see, if you do die at 64, it likely won't be a quick keel over, bit a lengthy, painful deterioration.

[OldMaid 2,136]

Thanks for the kind words OM. Here's the deal.

My father died at the young age of 44 (yes he drank but he also smoked 3 packs a day for more then 20+ years).

My early goal was to out live him and I did. However when I had kids my goal changed to outlive him by 20 years. I think 64 is a good age to go out.

My youngest boy will be 30 at that time. Hopefully by then they will both be successful and I can bow out.

In the regret thread I said I didn't regret anything. Well I guess I do, I regret that I never had the chance to really drink with my dad. That makes me sad.

Do I want my kids to drink ? Hell no.

See I have a plan. Now you can go back to ripping me apart.

I hope you know I didn't say any of those things to hurt you. Quite the opposite... If I didn't care, I probably wouldn't have said anything. As a matter of fact, I still debated on whether or not to speak up, as I didn't want to offend either of you. But I'm not the kind of person who likes to sweep things under the rug. A good friend will tell you like it is, not what you want to hear.

 

I hope you understand where I'm coming from and don' t take it personally.

[penultimatestraw 473]

 

I have a different theory.

 

 

Since everyone at the geek club is successful, intelligent, high earners. It is only natural that we tend to drink more than the average population:

 

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/201010/why-intelligent-people-drink-more-alcohol

Well, Jerryskids is a rocket scientist.

[penultimatestraw 473]

alcohol is a simple pleasure for me now... kinda' like chocolate, a good steak, good coffee, or a fine cigar.

 

I'll occasionally have a nice scotch on a weeknight after an especially stressful work day - in that application it is both medicinal and the simple, slow enjoyment of a fine dram helps take the edge off the day and maybe even celebrates getting thru the grind.

 

And on not-so-stressful days, if I'm having a whisky or three, it's to celebrate or enjoy the moment - a drink in that environment, for me, is typically an accessory to an already enjoyable time/place/event.

That makes sense, and is probably consistent with the way many handle alcohol. Never having been drunk, can't really understand the progression, but I'm guessing the "high" of being intoxicated becomes less enjoyable over time, relative to the aftermath of hangovers, interpersonal conflict, etc.

[penultimatestraw 473]

I'm pretty sure that the alcohol itself isn't metabolized (if that is the proper word) into fat. Sugary mixers and beer carbs though... I feel like we've had this discussion before.

We have. Alcohol is metabolized into ketone bodies, which can be used as fuel, like carbs, but it also promotes the formation of triglycerides.