Aaron Hernandez verdict - Guilty.

[GobbleDog 1,010]

For every rare example of a judge who didn't sentence harsh enough, there are many more examples of mandatory sentences resulting in miscarriages of justice.

 

Judges get voted in. If you don't like how they sentence convicts, vote them out.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

Judges get voted in. If you don't like how they sentence convicts, vote them out.

That's a potentially dangerous line of thinking as well. Sometimes the just thing to do isn't very popular

[Strike 6,019]

For every rare example of a judge who didn't sentence harsh enough, there are many more examples of mandatory sentences resulting in miscarriages of justice.

 

 

 

How about posting a link to just one?

[HenryHill9323 65]

For every rare example of a judge who didn't sentence harsh enough, there are many more examples of mandatory sentences resulting in miscarriages of justice.

Judges get voted in. If you don't like how they sentence convicts, vote them out.

The folks who pass mandatory sentencing laws are also voted into office. If you don't like them vote in folks that will get rid of them.

 

See how that works?

[Strike 6,019]

I would say it makes anyone who opposes mandatory sentences look foolish. That kind of dumbassery is what they eliminate. This clown clearly overstepped his authority and this will end up being reversed.

 

No it doesn't. Gobble has a valid point, and I agree with him to an extent. I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep over someone who was CONVICTED of a crime being sentenced to a term that was decided upon by a voted in legislature. It's funny, Gobble says judges are elected and if we don't like their rulings we should vote them out. Well, the people who decided on the mandatory sentences are elected too. They can be voted out as well and legislators who would repeal the mandatory sentencing laws elected. But that doesn't invalidate his point. What he fails to acknowledge is that without mandatory sentencing, and sometimes even with, judges have sentenced convicted criminals to ridiculously short sentences as well which is the main reason mandatory sentencing guidelines exist.

[parrot 789]

 

No it doesn't. Gobble has a valid point, and I agree with him to an extent. I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep over someone who was CONVICTED of a crime being sentenced to a term that was decided upon by a voted in legislature. It's funny, Gobble says judges are elected and if we don't like their rulings we should vote them out. Well, the people who decided on the mandatory sentences are elected too. They can be voted out as well and legislators who would repeal the mandatory sentencing laws elected. But that doesn't invalidate his point. What he fails to acknowledge is that without mandatory sentencing, and sometimes even with, judges have sentenced convicted criminals to ridiculously short sentences as well which is the main reason mandatory sentencing guidelines exist.

 

You ain't been around much, Strike. You know this is RP you're talking to, right?

[HenryHill9323 65]

You ain't been around much, Strike. You know this is RP you're talking to, right?

 

So he should automatically disagree with everything I say?

[HenryHill9323 65]

No it doesn't. Gobble has a valid point, and I agree with him to an extent. I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep over someone who was CONVICTED of a crime being sentenced to a term that was decided upon by a voted in legislature. It's funny, Gobble says judges are elected and if we don't like their rulings we should vote them out. Well, the people who decided on the mandatory sentences are elected too. They can be voted out as well and legislators who would repeal the mandatory sentencing laws elected. But that doesn't invalidate his point. What he fails to acknowledge is that without mandatory sentencing, and sometimes even with, judges have sentenced convicted criminals to ridiculously short sentences as well which is the main reason mandatory sentencing guidelines exist.

Gobble claims people have been given unjust sentences because of these laws, yet he hasn't brought any example for us to discuss.

 

If the choices are between a criminal getting a harsher sentence because of these laws vs a criminal getting a ridiculously light sentence because of the subjective views of a judge, I will go with the former.

[Strike 6,019]

 

You ain't been around much, Strike. You know this is RP you're talking to, right?

 

Yep. I'm trying to just address the subject material, regardless of the poster. It's not like there isn't some validity to his point as well. As usual, the answer is somewhere in the middle and Gobble and RP just represent the extreme view points on both sides.

[parrot 789]

So he should automatically disagree with everything I say?

 

No. I just think people should be aware who they are talking to before they burn too many calories trying to come up with cogent arguments that are only going to fall upon deaf ears.

[HenryHill9323 65]

No. I just think people should be aware who they are talking to before they burn too many calories trying to come up with cogent arguments that are only going to fall upon deaf ears.

 

Thanks, Mom.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

And this story relates to the thread how?

 

phurfur saw the words mandatory sentence and decided we needed a cut and paste job from him that had to do with that.

[IGotWorms 4,063]

So he should automatically disagree with everything I say?

Just about.

[Thornton Melon 648]

For every rare example of a judge who didn't sentence harsh enough, there are many more examples of mandatory sentences resulting in miscarriages of justice.

 

Judges get voted in. If you don't like how they sentence convicts, vote them out.

 

Judges in MA are selected by the Governor's Council, not elected...and they serve for life (or age 70, whichever comes first). The Governor's Council is elected, but I can only vote for my district. The voters are pretty far removed from affecting who becomes a judge in MA, and have virtually zero ability to remove one.

[parrot 789]

Thanks, Mom.

 

I'm not your mom, but someone should have taught you 'You reap what you sow.'

[HenryHill9323 65]

I'm not your mom, but someone should have taught you 'You reap what you sow.'

 

What exactly did I reap here, Sport? We were having a good discussion, and you jumped in to cry about me.

 

Move along, Fuckstick.....you have added nothing to the discussion.

[parrot 789]

What exactly did I reap here, Sport? We were having a good discussion, and you jumped in to cry about me.

 

Move along, Fuckstick.....you have added nothing to the discussion.

 

Eat a d!ck. I'll post where and what I want. The discussions you've added nothing to here number in the thousands.

 

And, I wasn't crying about you, just pointing out who you are so you can't run from your pathetic history. Why haven't you gone back to the RP handle? It's still greyed out in old threads even though you claimed to have the keys back. Funny that. Seems like you're a focking liar on top of everything else.

[Sho Nuff 720]

If you make fun of him, you are crying in his world.

 

And im still waiting for him to add anything to any conversation. ..beyond constant childish insults to anyone who disagrees with him.

[HenryHill9323 65]

Eat a d!ck. I'll post where and what I want. The discussions you've added nothing to here number in the thousands.

 

And, I wasn't crying about you, just pointing out who you are so you can't run from your pathetic history. Why haven't you gone back to the RP handle? It's still greyed out in old threads even though you claimed to have the keys back. Funny that. Seems like you're a focking liar on top of everything else.

 

Link to me claiming I had the "keys back"?

 

Link to me running from anything?

 

Oops! Caught in more lies.

[TD Ryan2 316]

 

I'm not your mom, but someone should have taught you 'You reap what you sow.'

well - it just so happens that I reaped and sowed his mom - which is exactly why I've been teaching him so much arounf here!

[Bert 1,128]

Brandon Spikes I see has let everybody know he is also a POS.

[edjr 6,898]

Brandon Spikes I see has let everybody know he is also a POS.

 

wasn't going to college in FLorida, enough of an indication?

[Bert 1,128]

 

wasn't going to college in FLorida, enough of an indication?

Good point!

[HenryHill9323 65]

Link to me claiming I had the "keys back"?

Link to me running from anything?

Oops! Caught in more lies.

:crickets:

 

[parrot 789]

:crickets:

 

 

Oh, I could link how you said the account was temporarily suspended and the suspension had expired, then you could engage in oh so clever word play about what those phrases really mean, and this could go on ad infinitum since we know there's nothing more important to you than getting the last word in every exchange, or I could just tell you you're not worth the effort and move on. You're not worth the effort, moving on.

[HenryHill9323 65]

Oh, I could link how you said the account was temporarily suspended and the suspension had expired, then you could engage in oh so clever word play about what those phrases really mean, and this could go on ad infinitum since we know there's nothing more important to you than getting the last word in every exchange, or I could just tell you you're not worth the effort and move on. You're not worth the effort, moving on.

 

Nope. You can't link to shiot, liar.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Nope. You can't link to shiot, liar.

 

You were Googleballz too?

[HenryHill9323 65]

Link to me claiming I had the "keys back"?

Link to me running from anything?

Oops! Caught in more lies.

Parrot seems to have tucked tail and run away from his lies.

[parrot 789]

Parrot seems to have tucked tail and run away from his lies.

Tilt.

[HenryHill9323 65]

Tilt.

 

Poor Parrot.

 

We all know if you could prove your claim you would be jumping for joy to do so.

 

Unfortunately for you, it turns out to be just another of your lies.

[parrot 789]

Poor Parrot.

 

We all know if you could prove your claim you would be jumping for joy to do so.

 

Unfortunately for you, it turns out to be just another of your lies.

 

Tilt O' Whirl.

[HenryHill9323 65]

[parrot 789]

 

Ah, thanks. I thought that was pretty good.

[HenryHill9323 65]

I honestly feel sad for you at this point. It was fun biotchslapping you on your lies for a while, but now it seems like picking on a kid who just got off the short bus.

[joneo 562]

 

Automatic sentences are created by "tough on crime" politicians pandering to the (m)asses.

 

Judges know the facts of the case and know which sentence is appropriate. Not some politician who's passing sentence on every future case he knows nothing about. Sounds like something they'd do in the Middle East.

 

Murder in the FIRST DEGREE!! Found guilty by a jury. What more is there? The reason it's mandatory is because some dousche nozzle liberal judges were extremely lenient and sentenced to ridiculously low time. Also, it takes the race card out of the equation. It's equal for everyone who commits murder in the first degree.

[HenryHill9323 65]

Odin Loyd was black, right? Why isn't Obama sending Holder in to look at federal Civil Rights charges? Hernandez is a "white Hispanic" right?

 

 

Seems to me the last time a white Hispanic killed a black guy Obama and Holder were all over it.

 

Why are they silent now?

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Odin Loyd was black, right? Why isn't Obama sending Holder in to look at federal Civil Rights charges? Hernandez is a "white Hispanic" right?

 

 

Seems to me the last time a white Hispanic killed a black guy Obama and Holder were all over it.

 

Why are they silent now?

You should get another alias for when you post the REALLY stupid stuff.

[MDC 7,882]

So he should automatically disagree with everything I say?

His odds of being right would skyrocket.

[Magnificent Bastard 192]

Maybe Kraft can get Obama to give Hernandez a pardon before OTA's

[drobeski 3,061]

Maybe Kraft can get Obama to give Hernandez a pardon before OTA's

vegas has the odds at 6-10 for this to happen.