Barry Obummer's address to the nation

[rholio 339]

A big thing that p1ssed troops off was when the budget didn't get done and troops weren't getting paid but had to show up to work (or if they were down range they still had to go out on combat missions). In reality, troops and vets need better treatment from America as a whole. The president needs to start that but he seems to be preoccupied with getting a traitor back and outlawing guns.

The budget problem could be blamed on either or both parties... that they would only blame Obummer is telling. As for the treatment of vets, did that change after Obummer became President? Seems like it was a continuing problem for a long time now.

[Djgb13 2,339]

The budget problem could be blamed on either or both parties... that they would only blame Obummer is telling. As for the treatment of vets, did that change after Obummer became President? Seems like it was a continuing problem for a long time now.

No that is a continuation. I'm just saying the president should be the one who starts fixing that but he hasn't bothered. Even after the VA scandal it took him a while to even address it.

[Big Guy 1,416]

Which is of course the discourse of the left. Anyone conservative or patriotiv is stupid.

 

The acedamian ivory tower.

 

[remote controller 143]

"Gun TV" premiers Jan. 20th 2016. Lock and load!

 

No need for Liberal's to fret......they will have 3 minutes of gun safety every hour.

[rholio 339]

No that is a continuation. I'm just saying the president should be the one who starts fixing that but he hasn't bothered. Even after the VA scandal it took him a while to even address it.

Agreed.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

The biggest problem is that [b{the last couple Democrat Presidents put the troops in harms way, same as the Republicans. [/b]The Dems try to limit what they can do once there, which increases the risk they face. It's a real problem, and a big part of the reason the military seems to always hate Democrat Presidents. Add in that Democrats are far more likely to reduce military spending / numbers, and there's no reason for them to not hate Democrats.

How so? That statement seems absurd to me, am I missing something?

[IGotWorms 4,060]

A big thing that p1ssed troops off was when the budget didn't get done and troops weren't getting paid but had to show up to work (or if they were down range they still had to go out on combat missions). In reality, troops and vets need better treatment from America as a whole. The president needs to start that but he seems to be preoccupied with getting a traitor back and outlawing guns.

That was the Republicans who did that

[mobb_deep 920]

That practiced ended in the 70s, how old are you?

We talkin bout practice?!

[rholio 339]

How so? That statement seems absurd to me, am I missing something?

Clinton and Obama both put limits on how and when the troops could react, when they are authorized to shoot, etc.

[Djgb13 2,339]

That was the Republicans who did that

I'm not blaming republicans or democrats cause I blame both sides. However, the president should step in and make sure the military troops get taken care of before anything else is done. I'm more upset over the lack of care given to the troops and to vets.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Clinton and Obama both put limits on how and when the troops could react, when they are authorized to shoot, etc.

No the part where you said they "put them in harm's way same as republicans."

 

Are you really comparing Kosovo and the bombing campaign in Syria to Iraq and Afghanistan?

[rholio 339]

No the part where you said they "put them in harm's way same as republicans."

Are you really comparing Kosovo and the bombing campaign in Syria to Iraq and Afghanistan?

Seriously? Did you notice the troops stayed in Iraq aand Afghanistan after Barack was elected? I did. Not assigning blame, stating Dems put more restrictions on the troops. Are you really trying to go off on a tangent from that?

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Seriously? Did you notice the troops stayed in Iraq aand Afghanistan after Barack was elected? I did. Not assigning blame, stating Dems put more restrictions on the troops. Are you really trying to go off on a tangent from that?

Was inevitable when Bush sent them in there. Obummer couldn't just pull 'em all out on day one. As it is some people claim we left too quickly

 

To me that's a whole hell of a lot different than launching a war in the first place. Especially launching a war under false pretenses

[Djgb13 2,339]

You guys do realize we still have troops over there right? They haven't left

[rholio 339]

Was inevitable when Bush sent them in there. Obummer couldn't just pull 'em all out on day one. As it is some people claim we left too quickly

To me that's a whole hell of a lot different than launching a war in the first place. Especially launching a war under false pretenses

Who gives a fock?! Troops in combat, period. Did you get my focking point, or do I need to type slower?

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Who gives a fock?! Troops in combat, period. Did you get my focking point, or do I need to type slower?

No I got your point but it doesn't make much sense. They aren't nearly similar and cannot be equated.

 

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one

[JTB 52]

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one

This should be your signature. No one seems to agree with you.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

This should be your signature. No one seems to agree with you.

Fine by me. The great ones are often misunderstood

[rholio 339]

No I got your point but it doesn't make much sense. They aren't nearly similar and cannot be equated.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one

Bad guys approaching... Republican Pres.- Go ahead and shoot.

 

Bad guys approaching... Democrat Pres.- Make sure they're hostile. Have they fired at you? Okay,then radio your supervisor for authorization to fire. No answer? Okay, don't shoot back, we'll find someone to authorize the use of force. Don't shoot back until authorized....

 

If it sounds ridiculous, that's because it is ridiculous.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Bad guys approaching... Republican Pres.- Go ahead and shoot.

 

Bad guys approaching... Democrat Pres.- Make sure they're hostile. Have they fired at you? Okay,then radio your supervisor for authorization to fire. No answer? Okay, don't shoot back, we'll find someone to authorize the use of force. Don't shoot back until authorized....

 

If it sounds ridiculous, that's because it is ridiculous.

Republican pres: lie your way into an unnecessary and I'll-conceived war killing 5,000 US soldiers and wounding tens of thousands more

 

Democrat pres: do a bombing campaign from way far away or a humanitarian mission where US soldiers aren't supposed to even fire a shot.

 

That's the comparison I'd look at. But I guess it's just a difference in perspective

[rholio 339]

Republican pres: lie your way into an unnecessary and I'll-conceived war killing 5,000 US soldiers and wounding tens of thousands more

Democrat pres: do a bombing campaign from way far away or a humanitarian mission where US soldiers aren't supposed to even fire a shot.

That's the comparison I'd look at. But I guess it's just a difference in perspective

Missed again. What the fock does that have to do with the rules of engagement, which is what I'm talking about? It's like arguing the apples don't make the best orange juice.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Missed again. What the fock does that have to do with the rules of engagement, which is what I'm talking about? It's like arguing the apples don't make the best orange juice.

You're saying the military hates Obummer because of restrictive rules of engagement? Right? I know that's simplistic but generally that's what you're saying.

 

Well I'm saying so what about the rules of engagement? He isn't sending tens of thousands of soldiers to die or get maimed based on a lie. In a war that was a strategic error and did nothing to defend America, no less.

 

So to me it seems silly if the military hates Obummer for that reason. It's almost like you're saying troops would rather die for no good reason and based on falsehoods, than have their hands tied by a president trying to minimize casualties

[Voltaire 5,363]

In my experience, you have a lot more dumb people in the civilian world than you do in the military.

Ha!Ha!Ha!

 

That's the exact opposite of my experience by a factor of a trillion to the trillionth power.

 

The Army was jam packed full of dumb focking morons. Nearly everyone is lazy and incompetent. And this is based on 1991 when we actually were able to overcome our stupidness and kick ass anyways.

 

Granted it's been 20 years but it's impossible that the overwhelming stupidity has been purged let alone caught up to civilian levels.

[mmmmm...beer 812]

Ha!Ha!Ha!

 

That's the exact opposite of my experience by a factor of a trillion to the trillionth power.

 

The Army was jam packed full of dumb focking morons. Nearly everyone is lazy and incompetent. And this is based on 1991 when we actually were able to overcome our stupidness and kick ass anyways.

 

Granted it's been 20 years but it's impossible that the overwhelming stupidity has been purged let alone caught up to civilian levels.

Thats cause they told you to visualize the battle and you said, no... thats impossible and your dumb!

 

Also... when one dude thinks evvverone around him is dumb and no one gets stuff but him.... uuhhh.. they may not be the problem?

[IGotWorms 4,060]

Thats cause they told you to visualize the battle and you said, no... thats impossible and your dumb!

[mmmmm...beer 812]

Also... that sorta makes you seem like that one know it all private thinks he should be general cause everyone is stupid but him.

[gocolts 300]

Ha!Ha!Ha!

 

That's the exact opposite of my experience by a factor of a trillion to the trillionth power.

 

The Army was jam packed full of dumb focking morons. Nearly everyone is lazy and incompetent. And this is based on 1991 when we actually were able to overcome our stupidness and kick ass anyways.

 

Granted it's been 20 years but it's impossible that the overwhelming stupidity has been purged let alone caught up to civilian levels.

Let me guess, you were in an infantry unit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, that is a joke bro.

[Voltaire 5,363]

Thats cause they told you to visualize the battle and you said, no... thats impossible and your dumb!

 

Also... when one dude thinks evvverone around him is dumb and no one gets stuff but him.... uuhhh.. they may not be the problem?

There were a few of us that got it and while we kept each other sane, we also mostly didn't re-enlist. GTFO. The lifers were with rare exception worthless but they were also the ones responsible for running things. Personnel records for everyone always screwed up. Nobody knew how to attach the dollies to the whatever the fock, I forgot what they're called, shopping crate things. Tech supply losing parts requests regularly and being lazy d1cks. An excess focus of BS rules and piddily nonsense. Getting stabbed in the back regularly by your boss to his boss.

 

It's all funny now and maybe it was funny back then when it happened. But in the end, the joke was always on us. Having to always clean up some dillweed's mess in your chain of command doesn't make you laugh, it makes you angry.

 

And being good at you job... doesn't even matter. It's how much of a brownnoser you are that does.

 

Such a nightmare. The only solution is Echo Tango Suitcase

[Djgb13 2,339]

Ha!Ha!Ha!

 

That's the exact opposite of my experience by a factor of a trillion to the trillionth power.

 

The Army was jam packed full of dumb focking morons. Nearly everyone is lazy and incompetent. And this is based on 1991 when we actually were able to overcome our stupidness and kick ass anyways.

 

Granted it's been 20 years but it's impossible that the overwhelming stupidity has been purged let alone caught up to civilian levels.

With respect, there's a big difference in IQ levels between the army and the Air Force. It also has to do with your job. If you're infantry, and I'm not trying to sound bad or disrespect, you don't exactly have the brightest bunch there because they are meant for shooting and that's about it.

[Voltaire 5,363]

Let me guess, you were in an infantry unit.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, that is a joke bro.

I started off in nuclear missiles and then went into heavy armor. But it was maintenance section, the job could go anywhere.

[RLLD 4,275]

Good politician, maybe the best we have ever seen, even when put next to Clinton (Billy), selling the politics, still avoiding the reality; our enemies are relying on this.

[fandandy 3,313]

I didn't watch. Did anyone count how many times he said allahu akbar?

[RLLD 4,275]

I didn't watch. Did anyone count how many times he said allahu akbar?

 

Not once.

[hoytdwow 202]

Just watched it. It's only 10 minutes long or so. You can watch it on nytimes.com. There's not a whole lot to it, pretty typical for the genre: he says we're all Americans and have to come together and yadda yadda. He repudiates any sort of ground action in the Middle East, which I am glad to hear, because that's a really stupid idea.

[KSB2424 3,148]

I'll watch it later online when I have a chance.

 

But what I'm hearing is more lecturing and less actual policy or strategy talk. I think its good to try and settle the nerves of Americans and lessen any anxiety that may be out there, but I would think letting the American people know you are going to do something and have a plan of action is better than just lecturing them about how to be nice.

[hoytdwow 202]

I'll watch it later online when I have a chance.

 

But what I'm hearing is more lecturing and less actual policy or strategy talk. I think its good to try and settle the nerves of Americans and lessen any anxiety that may be out there, but I would think letting the American people know you are going to do something and have a plan of action is better than just lecturing them about how to be nice.

It's more than that; he very broadly outlines the current strategy against ISIS, here and abroad

[posty 2,762]

Didn't watch it, but I am guessing it sounded like this:

 

[MDC 7,590]

I didn't see it but I am sure it was terrible and made us all less safe.

[IGotWorms 4,060]

I'll watch it later online when I have a chance.

 

But what I'm hearing is more lecturing and less actual policy or strategy talk. I think its good to try and settle the nerves of Americans and lessen any anxiety that may be out there, but I would think letting the American people know you are going to do something and have a plan of action is better than just lecturing them about how to be nice.

Well at least you're going in with an open mind

[cbfalcon 827]

Fox News analyst calls Obama "a total pusssy" on the air.

 

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a40249/fox-news-obama-total-/