MDC 7,469 Posted March 2, 2016 you do realize he did distance himself 2 DAYS prior to the stupid question being asked again, and has multiple times since ? Has Hillary distanced herself from Robert bird who she has practically made out with in the past ? You panicked fools are the true representation if fake outrage. My god is it funny I think the difference is that Duke is a white nationalist TODAY as opposed to 40-50 decades ago. And also Byrd is dead. Facts never stop the uneducated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 2, 2016 I think the difference is that Duke is a white nationalist TODAY as opposed to 40-50 decades ago but facts never stop the uneducated. facts, like Donald already disavowing him and the kkk prior to the repeat question that has you fake outrage tards twats all twisted in knots ? Those facts, poetry boy ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted March 2, 2016 You can whine about the rigged campaign finance system, but this primary is uncovering a bigger rigged system, superdelegates and conventions.... The democratic side has set up superdelegates that supercede the will of the people and give a huge advantage to the establishment cabal and their annointees... The republicans are plotting to supercede the will of the people at the convention and simply deciding amongst themselves who gets the nomination... Both are ridiculous and its crazy no one is speaking out about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,469 Posted March 2, 2016 facts, like Donald already disavowing him and the kkk prior to the repeat question that has you fake outrage tards twats all twisted in knots ? Those facts, poetry boy ? Facts like the fact that Trump knows who Duke is and decided not to repudiate him cause he was afraid of offending the uneducated bigots who vote for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 2, 2016 Hardly 30-33% of overall primary vote. I just added up all his vote percentages in that quoted text. .33 + .43 + .33 + .39 +.49 +.29 +.28 +.39 + .27 + .35 + .33 = 3.88 3.88 / 11 States = .352 So Trump is averaging garning 35.2 % of the votes in these primaries. And his unfavorable rating is around 65%. Which makes sense in that context. I was very close. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,287 Posted March 2, 2016 Their only hope is for a brokered convention. Its why Rubio won't go away. he is the party's golden boy at this point and their only hope. I know the establishment wants that, but I wonder how all the people who voted for Trump would feel if they couldn't vote for him in November. That would have to have an effect on GOP turnout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted March 2, 2016 Not sure, might sit that one out entirely. But if I had to hold my nose and vote for a massive kvnt so as to not let a KKK-backing demagogue into the White House , that would not make me a "backer" of said kvnt. HTH meh, that stuff is nonsense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 2, 2016 Facts like the fact that Trump knows who Duke is and decided not to repudiate him cause he was afraid of offending the uneducated bigots who vote for him.ya got nuthin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DankNuggs 305 Posted March 2, 2016 I know the establishment wants that, but I wonder how all the people who voted for Trump would feel if they couldn't vote for him in November. That would have to have an effect on GOP turnout. if the GOP would rather implode the party over a brokered convention rather than simply move a little bit to the center they get what they deserve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted March 2, 2016 You can whine about the rigged campaign finance system, but this primary is uncovering a bigger rigged system, superdelegates and conventions.... The democratic side has set up superdelegates that supercede the will of the people and give a huge advantage to the establishment cabal and their annointees... The republicans are plotting to supercede the will of the people at the convention and simply deciding amongst themselves who gets the nomination... Both are ridiculous and its crazy no one is speaking out about it. Thanks for posting this. I have barely been following the primary, I need to read up on super delegates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,469 Posted March 2, 2016 ya got nuthin Did Trump really not know anything about Duke? He didn't repudiate him because he was asked the question twice? You uneducated types are really easy to fool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 2, 2016 Did Trump really not know anything about Duke? He didn't repudiate him because he was asked the question twice? You uneducated types are really easy to fool. did he not disavow him in the past ? Did Hillary every criticize bird for his past ? No she praised him... Fake outrage twat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,469 Posted March 2, 2016 did he not disavow him in the past ? Did Hillary every criticize bird for his past ? No she praised him... Fake outrage twat Byrd wasn't in the kkk for 40 years before Hillary was in the White House, he renounced his own membership and he's dead. You are very dumb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted March 2, 2016 I think somebody in the establishment paid off Duke to come out in support of Trump. David Duke knew it would do nothing but hurt Trump so why do it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted March 2, 2016 Another guy that says he likes what he sees in Trump is Farrakhan. He no likey the Jews... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356 Posted March 2, 2016 look I am not a Trump supporter, however we haven't had a primary with 4 people hanging around this late is some time now. Trump bashers keep cherry picking the 60% aren't voting for Trump statistic but none of them mention that 75+% aren't voting for the other guys. If Rubio, Cruz, or Kasich drop, people assume the votes automatically won't go to Trump, but he would get more of Cruz's votes than Rubio. He would also likely get more or Carson's as well 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,313 Posted March 2, 2016 i was just thinking when is the last time we have had a viable candidate aside from the Democrat or Republican establishments choice? It was Ross Perot and that's when Clinton was elected. 24 years later and it might be happening again. Maybe those Clintons are just REALLY good at playing the game. Trump did call Bill right before he jumped in the race. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 316 Posted March 2, 2016 I'm critical of Trump and the circus the debates/elections have become... none of it is Presidential. But, last night, Trump's appeal was never more apparent to me than in this exchange: Trump (paraphrasing): "there's 20 trillion dollars in off-shore, un-taxed money... we need to bring it back... we need to make a deal to get this working for us... and stop companies that benefit from our Great country from doing this... this isn't anything new... and both parties, R and D want this... BOTH want this! Why hasn't it been done? We have an issue everyone agrees on and nobody can get it done... give me one hour... give me one hour in the oval office and this is done. It's absurd that politicians can't even get stuff done that they all agree on." How can anyone disagree with that? And I get it, what's his plan? Is it really as easy - black/white as he makes it seem? Probably not. But his attitude and rhetoric over it all resonates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 570 Posted March 2, 2016 i was just thinking when is the last time we have had a viable candidate aside from the Democrat or Republican establishments choice? It was Ross Perot and that's when Clinton was elected. 24 years later and it might be happening again. Maybe those Clintons are just REALLY good at playing the game. Trump did call Bill right before he jumped in the race. Only problem is the 3rd choice right now is the rumored Bloomberg. No thankyou.I'd rather have 2 people I don't trust or like. I don't need 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 2, 2016 when it's down to Hillary and Donald, who you got ? Gary Johnson Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 570 Posted March 2, 2016 I'm critical of Trump and the circus the debates/elections have become... none of it is Presidential. But, last night, Trump's appeal was never more apparent to me than in this exchange: Trump (paraphrasing): "there's 20 trillion dollars in off-shore, un-taxed money... we need to bring it back... we need to make a deal to get this working for us... and stop companies that benefit from our Great country from doing this... this isn't anything new... and both parties, R and D want this... BOTH want this! Why hasn't it been done? We have an issue everyone agrees on and nobody can get it done... give me one hour... give me one hour in the oval office and this is done. It's absurd that politicians can't even get stuff done that they all agree on." How can anyone disagree with that? Like I said. For the first time. His speech last night was really good. At least to me it was. And I get it, what's his plan? Is it really as easy - black/white as he makes it seem? Probably not. But his attitude and rhetoric over it all resonates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,620 Posted March 2, 2016 I'm critical of Trump and the circus the debates/elections have become... none of it is Presidential. But, last night, Trump's appeal was never more apparent to me than in this exchange: Trump (paraphrasing): "there's 20 trillion dollars in off-shore, un-taxed money... we need to bring it back... we need to make a deal to get this working for us... and stop companies that benefit from our Great country from doing this... this isn't anything new... and both parties, R and D want this... BOTH want this! Why hasn't it been done? We have an issue everyone agrees on and nobody can get it done... give me one hour... give me one hour in the oval office and this is done. It's absurd that politicians can't even get stuff done that they all agree on." How can anyone disagree with that? And I get it, what's his plan? Is it really as easy - black/white as he makes it seem? Probably not. But his attitude and rhetoric over it all resonates. Because it is wrong? There is not 20 trillion in untaxed money offshore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 2, 2016 you do realize he did distance himself 2 DAYS prior to the stupid question being asked again, and has multiple times since ? Has Hillary distanced herself from Robert bird who she has practically made out with in the past ? You panicked fools are the true representation if fake outrage. My god is it funny He claimed he didn't know anything about Duke and would not comment about white supremacists. Byrd...nice comparison. Better do you research on that one before comparing him to Duke at this point. You again are showing yourself to be an utterly clueless little sheep. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 2, 2016 I know the establishment wants that, but I wonder how all the people who voted for Trump would feel if they couldn't vote for him in November. That would have to have an effect on GOP turnout. Many wouldn't be smart enough to understand it anyway...and would just vote for whatever R is there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 2, 2016 if the GOP would rather implode the party over a brokered convention rather than simply move a little bit to the center they get what they deserve. Trump is not really a move towards the center...he is in his own little world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 720 Posted March 2, 2016 I'm critical of Trump and the circus the debates/elections have become... none of it is Presidential. But, last night, Trump's appeal was never more apparent to me than in this exchange: Trump (paraphrasing): "there's 20 trillion dollars in off-shore, un-taxed money... we need to bring it back... we need to make a deal to get this working for us... and stop companies that benefit from our Great country from doing this... this isn't anything new... and both parties, R and D want this... BOTH want this! Why hasn't it been done? We have an issue everyone agrees on and nobody can get it done... give me one hour... give me one hour in the oval office and this is done. It's absurd that politicians can't even get stuff done that they all agree on." How can anyone disagree with that? And I get it, what's his plan? Is it really as easy - black/white as he makes it seem? Probably not. But his attitude and rhetoric over it all resonates. You think he can just snap his fingers and get his things done? No, none of it is easy. And no amount of him threatening other people with lawsuits will help like hit has some of his business deals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 2, 2016 Because it is wrong? There is not 20 trillion in untaxed money offshore. Politifact is one of those fact checking sites that goes back and checks candidates stances and claims and soundbites for accuracy. I read that so far upwards of 66% of the things Trump says are rated as false or mostly false. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,287 Posted March 2, 2016 Politifact is one of those fact checking sites that goes back and checks candidates stances and claims and soundbites for accuracy. I read that so far upwards of 66% of the things Trump says are rated as false or mostly false. 66%...I think he's improving, I saw him at 74% last week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,817 Posted March 2, 2016 Because it is wrong? There is not 20 trillion in untaxed money offshore.I just googled it; it is more like 2 trillion. Still a huge number, but apparently not yooooge enough for the Donald. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 2, 2016 if the GOP would rather implode the party over a brokered convention rather than simply move a little bit to the center they get what they deserve. I'm trying to understand this statement. Are you saying a move to Trump would be moving to the Center ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted March 2, 2016 You can whine about the rigged campaign finance system, but this primary is uncovering a bigger rigged system, superdelegates and conventions.... The democratic side has set up superdelegates that supercede the will of the people and give a huge advantage to the establishment cabal and their annointees... The republicans are plotting to supercede the will of the people at the convention and simply deciding amongst themselves who gets the nomination... Both are ridiculous and its crazy no one is speaking out about it. Preach it brutha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted March 2, 2016 Trump was probably afraid disavowing David Duke would hurt him with his core demographic. This is it. His core supporters hate the P.C. culture, want to deport all Mexicans and build a wall, and want to prohibit Muslims from entering the U.S. Now they may not be actual KKK supporters, but I do think trump felt like he had to tread likely in rebuking the KKK and David Duke. And Jesus Christ, what does that tell you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoytdwow 202 Posted March 2, 2016 Trump bashers keep cherry picking the 60% aren't voting for Trump statistic but none of them mention that 75+% aren't voting for the other guys. because they're voting for democrats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted March 2, 2016 This is it. His core supporters hate the P.C. culture, want to deport all Mexicans and build a wall, and want to prohibit Muslims from entering the U.S. Now they may not be actual KKK supporters, but I do think trump felt like he had to tread likely in rebuking the KKK and David Duke. And Jesus Christ, what does that tell you? It tells me he's starting to think more like a politician. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 2, 2016 Gary Johnsongood luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted March 2, 2016 You can whine about the rigged campaign finance system, but this primary is uncovering a bigger rigged system, superdelegates and conventions.... The democratic side has set up superdelegates that supercede the will of the people and give a huge advantage to the establishment cabal and their annointees... The republicans are plotting to supercede the will of the people at the convention and simply deciding amongst themselves who gets the nomination... Both are ridiculous and its crazy no one is speaking out about it. Well I think people aren't speaking out about it because it hasn't come to fruition yet. If Bernie won a majority of the elected delegates and the super delegates then threw it to HRC, yes you'd probably see a revolt. But lucky for HRC, the DNC, etc. there is not even a remote chance of that happening at this point. Now with the republicans it could still happen, but a majority of republicans probably want it to happen so that's an interesting wrinkle. But yeah, a brokered convention would be risky as far as alienating Trump's supporters and opening yourself up to a huge third party ticket. But Trump could actually the nomination all sown up by May from what I've read. The ironic thing is the RNC changed the primary rules to make it easier for the front runner to wrap up the nomination early, in response to the perceived weakness of not crowning Romney til late in game in 2012. Now they're reaping what they've sown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted March 2, 2016 if the GOP would rather implode the party over a brokered convention rather than simply move a little bit to the center they get what they deserve. I don't think that's an accurate characterization. It isn't that Trump forces "a little bit of a move to the center." It's that he's a deeply flawed general election candidate based on completely NOT centrist but extreme things he has said about Hispanics, Muslims, women, the KKK, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 2, 2016 I don't think that's an accurate characterization. It isn't that Trump forces "a little bit of a move to the center." It's that he's a deeply flawed general election candidate based on completely NOT centrist but extreme things he has said about Hispanics, Muslims, women, the KKK, etc. Yeah, what part of Trump is "Centrist". 1. We don't even really know his stances in any real form so you can't say for certain 2. He is against Amnesty, wants a religious test for Muslims, wants to repeal Obamacare, what exactly is he a centrist on? That we know about in any detail? Man, he has people conned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted March 2, 2016 Yeah, what part of Trump is "Centrist". 1. We don't even really know his stances in any real form so you can't say for certain 2. He is against Amnesty, wants a religious test for Muslims, wants to repeal Obamacare, what exactly is he a centrist on? That we know about in any detail? Man, he has people conned. I'd say he's centrist on healthcare and probably abortion. There's likely other issues he's centrist on as well but you are right that we can't say for sure because he doesn't even give a hint of what his plan will be other than "something really terrific." But then you weigh those few centrist positions he's espoused against the extremely hateful shiat he's said about certain groups and I don't think the net result is "centrist." Dank is off in la la land on this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 2, 2016 I'd say he's centrist on healthcare and probably abortion. There's likely other issues he's centrist on as well but you are right that we can't say for sure because he doesn't even give a hint of what his plan will be other than "something really terrific." But then you weigh those few centrist positions he's espoused against the extremely hateful shiat he's said about certain groups and I don't think the net result is "centrist." Dank is off in la la land on this He says he'd get rid of Obamacare and defund PP. I'm personally okay with both, but yeah that is lock step GOP. Or maybe he just says that to get elected, but is really more like Hillary on issues. Shit, I don't know. Which is like half of the FOCKING PROBLEM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites