Who is the best pitcher of these 3, right NOW.

[edjr 6,898]

Chris Sale - .717 WHIP 1.58 ERA 6.20 SO/W

 

 

Clayton Kershaw - .700 WHIP 1.67 ERA 22.00 SO/W

 

 

Jake Arrieta - .839 WHIP 1.29 ERA 3.06 SO/W

 

 

 

 

Real baseball fans know that wins and losses don't matter when it comes to judging a baseball pitcher.

 

 

Kershaw is on a historic run for the ages. We all know about his post season record.

 

 

I want to know, right now, who do you think is the best? who do you want starting game 7 of the world series?

 

 

 

[Mungwater 601]

I'm pretty biased, but I'd have to admit kershaw. I love arrieta, but he will have an inning or two where hes a little erratic.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Chris Sale - .717 WHIP 1.58 ERA 6.20 SO/W

 

 

Clayton Kershaw - .700 WHIP 1.67 ERA 22.00 SO/W

 

 

Jake Arrieta - .839 WHIP 1.29 ERA 3.06 SO/W

 

 

 

 

Real baseball fans know that wins and losses don't matter when it comes to judging a baseball pitcher.

 

 

Kershaw is on a historic run for the ages. We all know about his post season record.

 

 

I want to know, right now, who do you think is the best? who do you want starting game 7 of the world series?

 

 

 

My brain tells me Kershaw, but my gut hesitates because of the post season body of work. But I'd go with him.

[edjr 6,898]

Chris Sale is really coming into his own and is doing this in the american league, I give him the nod.

[posty 2,809]

Sale... Since he isn't trying to strike out everyone, he has become a much better pitcher...

[Mungwater 601]

Chris Sale is really coming into his own and is doing this in the american league, I give him the nod.

The difference between leagues shouldn't matter.

[Meglamaniac 792]

Kershaw hands down

[dain11279 980]

Snydergaard will be in this discussion in a couple of years if his elbow hasn't exploded by then

[cyclone24 1,935]

I'm pretty biased, but I'd have to admit kershaw. I love arrieta, but he will have an inning or two where hes a little erratic.

I picked arrieta.....but if it was game 7 I might just take kershaw. He's nasty.

[WhiteWonder 2,924]

Right now in terms of short term run its Arrieta but the best of the three, like if you were building a team or staff around 1 guy it's kershaw.

[kilroy69 1,268]

I'm pretty biased, but I'd have to admit kershaw. I love arrieta, but he will have an inning or two where hes a little erratic.

I chalk that up to him changing his arm slot. His body wants to go back to the old slot and it tosses him off. He catches himself and adjusts back to the new slot.

[Cruzer 1,996]

Interesting note on Kershaw: he was the high school center for Matt Stafford.

[edjr 6,898]

The difference between leagues shouldn't matter.

 

Oh. the National League has a DH now?

[Mungwater 601]

 

Oh. the National League has a DH now?

American league pitchers run the bases?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Snydergaard will be in this discussion in a couple of years if his elbow hasn't exploded by then

Maybe a couple of months. He's got it. 99 mph where he wants it and they can't lay off his off speed. And his off speed is in the 90's

[edjr 6,898]

American league pitchers run the bases?

 

do National League pitchers? what is their OBP .150?

 

funniest thing I have ever heard "do they run the bases"

[WhiteWonder 2,924]

So much interleague play. AL or NL doesn't really factor into my decision

[edjr 6,898]

So much interleague play. AL or NL doesn't really factor into my decision

 

20 interleague games and 142 not

 

it's almost even.

[hdaddy 18]

Gotta go with the numbers...Kershaw

[edjr 6,898]

Gotta go with the numbers...Kershaw

 

NLCS 7.23 ERA 1.554 whip (3 years, 6 appearances)

 

not good.

[hdaddy 18]

 

NLCS 7.23 ERA 1.554 whip (3 years, 6 appearances)

 

not good.

Right, right his playoff disappearance. I should have prefaced current numbers during the regular season. Koufaxish

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

NLCS 7.23 ERA 1.554 whip (3 years, 6 appearances)

 

not good.

My issue isn't the era. One bad game can blow that up. The fact that he hasn't gone past 7 innings in any of his post season starts is very Greg Maddux to me.

[Mungwater 601]

 

do National League pitchers? what is their OBP .150?

 

funniest thing I have ever heard "do they run the bases"

Outside of trout, the best hitters are in the national league

[trololol 0]

Clayton Kershaw

 

[edjr 6,898]

Outside of trout, the best hitters are in the national league

 

 

top 10 in OPS right now.

 

 

1 Murphy, D WSH 2B 40 151 24 60 14 2 6 27 9 17 1 1 .397 .429 .636 1.065

2 Altuve, J HOU 2B 42 165 38 57 17 0 9 26 24 21 15 1 .345 .433 .612 1.045

3 Ortiz, D BOS DH 37 141 20 44 16 1 10 34 19 25 1 0 .312 .391 .652 1.044

4 Diaz, A STL SS 38 129 28 48 14 1 6 21 7 12 1 1 .372 .403 .636 1.039

5 Harper, B WSH RF 40 122 26 31 6 0 11 29 45 33 7 3 .254 .450 .574 1.024

6 Cespedes, Y NYM CF 36 131 24 38 6 1 13 33 15 31 1 0 .290 .372 .649 1.020

7 Braun, R MIL LF 35 132 21 48 7 0 7 28 15 21 2 2 .364 .429 .576 1.004

8 Trout, M LAA CF 41 153 28 50 8 1 10 31 24 37 4 1 .327 .416 .588 1.004

9 Machado, M BAL 3B 39 160 30 51 16 0 11 25 14 26 0 3 .319 .377 .625 1.002

10 Bradley, J BOS CF 40 145 21 49 10 4 7 32 11 33 2 0 .338 .390 .607 .997

[Frozenbeernuts 2,331]

Considering Kershaws past post season performance, I go with Sale.

[BuckeyeZ 2]

Kershaw

[Meglamaniac 792]

 

NLCS 7.23 ERA 1.554 whip (3 years, 6 appearances)

 

not good.

I don't think right now means what you think it means if you are using historical stats

[edjr 6,898]

I don't think right now means what you think it means if you are using historical stats

 

That wasn't even the same pitcher. I mean, his last 3 regular seasons were miserable, no wonder he did so poorly in the post season

 

that's ancient history pal

[Bier Meister 1,750]

Kershaw is having a great season so far, but I would go with arrieta, or my guy bum (who is not having a wonderful year yet). kershaw can get lit now and then.

[Meglamaniac 792]

 

That wasn't even the same pitcher. I mean, his last 3 regular seasons were miserable, no wonder he did so poorly in the post season

 

that's ancient history pal

I have no idea what that means

 

What I do know is that right now there is no question who the best pitcher is, it's Kershaw.

[edjr 6,898]

I have no idea what that means

 

What I do know is that right now there is no question who the best pitcher is, it's Kershaw.

 

regular season, sure.

 

but I'd like to have a chance in the playoffs, especially when my payroll is 300 million

[Meglamaniac 792]

 

regular season, sure.

 

but I'd like to have a chance in the playoffs, especially when my payroll is 300 million

Again, were are talking about right NOW, what do the playoffs have to do with it.

[edjr 6,898]

Again, were are talking about right NOW, what do the playoffs have to do with it.

 

has he pitched today, is he pitching right now? isn't it all in the past?

 

if he lets up 6 runs his next start, will you jump from the bandwagon?

 

if you don't want to count his post-season failures, that's your deal. I'm counting them.

[Meglamaniac 792]

 

has he pitched today, is he pitching right now? isn't it all in the past?

 

if he lets up 6 runs his next start, will you jump from the bandwagon?

 

if you don't want to count his post-season failures, that's your deal. I'm counting them.

OK

[the newb 23]

The title says right now. 88 and 4 all day long

[giraldi02 476]

Well...not knowing the other teams lineup, and all things being equal, I'll take an ace lefty more often than not.

 

Gimme Sale in the here and now

[CantTouchThis 23]

Arrieta is on an unreal run.

 

Sale has been a top 2-3 pitcher in the AL for about 4 or 5 years, but I think he now stands atop.

 

Kershaw.....really could be a top 5 pitcher of all time. Maybe the best. Edit: Regular season. Forgot about his bad playoff performances.

[Bier Meister 1,750]

Kershaw is having a great season so far, but I would go with arrieta, or my guy bum (who is not having a wonderful year yet). kershaw can get lit now and then.

 

 

still like bum

[Djgb13 2,339]

Gotta go with Arrieta