Zero QB Strategy

[LunaTick 30]

I'm not willing to spend the price to land the ARod,Brees,Luck,etc.. as my QB.

I've been messing around and taking QBs pretty late & I'm seriously considering this on a league or 2.

 

Romo has the easiest schedule for the year, & the 2nd easiest over wks 14-16 (@NYG/TB/DET). Bye 7

 

Winston has the 10th easiest schedule, & the easiest schedule over wks 14-16 (NO/@Dal/@NO). Bye 6

 

Stafford has the 2nd easiest schedule, & the 6th easiest over wks 14-16 (CHI/@NYG/@DAL). Bye 9

 

Flacco has the 4th easiest schedule, & the 10th easiest wks. 14-16 (@NE/PHL/@PITT). Bye

 

 

Someone should come up with the Fantasy version of an Investment Risk Assessment test.

This stated, it depends greatly on your leagues scoring and size of league.

Also, in most cases, the QB is typically the greatest scoring player/position on most squads.

So to offset those potential points. You need to draft well at other positions.

 

IMO, it is very difficult to overcome inconsistent play at the QB position when you find yourself missing out on the tier 1, 2 and much of the 3 guys.

 

IMO, it is better to gamble at lower tiered RB than a lower tiered QB.

 

Of those you have mentioned.

They all have question marks.

I am not a fan of Romo. I like him more as a #2, for a variety of reasons, than as the starter.

Best would be to get two of these guys, if your game is to wait that is.

 

But I again don't recommend it. Rather risk it at RB.

[montana 89]

To set the record straight: I never once claimed it was a new strategy.

 

Just bringing up the fact that this year especially seems like a perfect time to possibly implement it. There only seems to be a 2-4 point weekly deference between the say 7th QB vs say the 15th or later. (Just an example...still working on my rankings)

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

 

Someone should come up with the Fantasy version of an Investment Risk Assessment test.

This stated, it depends greatly on your leagues scoring and size of league.

Also, in most cases, the QB is typically the greatest scoring player/position on most squads.

So to offset those potential points. You need to draft well at other positions.

 

IMO, it is very difficult to overcome inconsistent play at the QB position when you find yourself missing out on the tier 1, 2 and much of the 3 guys.

 

IMO, it is better to gamble at lower tiered RB than a lower tiered QB.

 

Of those you have mentioned.

They all have question marks.

I am not a fan of Romo. I like him more as a #2, for a variety of reasons, than as the starter.

Best would be to get two of these guys, if your game is to wait that is.

 

But I again don't recommend it. Rather risk it at RB.

 

So you'd rather take a risk at a position that is proven to be much riskier. You only need one QB and there are plenty to be had during the season. There are not many RBs to be had and are hard to find on waivers. It's much more important to get those skilled positions earlier than your QB.

[AintNoStoppinMeNow 68]

I always employ the same strategy and it usually works out well.

 

Option A: Take a an elite QB if he drops (usually doesn't happen as most leagues get QB happy early on).

 

Option B: Take two high upside QBs late and play the matchups all season.

 

The big difference of course is you'll have to use up an extra roster spot on a QB all year (elite QB means you only carry a 2nd QB to cover elite QB's bye) but you get to fill out the rest of your starting lineup much better taking a QB late rather than early.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

I always employ the same strategy and it usually works out well.

 

Option A: Take a an elite QB if he drops (usually doesn't happen as most leagues get QB happy early on).

 

Option B: Take two high upside QBs late and play the matchups all season.

 

The big difference of course is you'll have to use up an extra roster spot on a QB all year (elite QB means you only carry a 2nd QB to cover elite QB's bye) but you get to fill out the rest of your starting lineup much better taking a QB late rather than early.

 

Or just draft one QB late and you can still stream the position without having two on your roster all the time. It can still work.

[American Chewy 98]

agree on streaming with only 1 qb on your roster each week. back in the day it was common to hold on to two qbs because qbs got injured more often. these days "stud" qbs are protected so much they rarely get hurt so more qbs are available throughout the year on our waivers. (though last year seemed to be an anomaly with regard to injuries) i usually looked for who had a run of easy teams coming up and tried to stay ahead if i could.

[redsrback 30]

You must play in a league that allows you more then 1 pick-up a week chewy. So many injuries at RB and you know you will need a kicker and defense to pick-up, just way to hard to stream QBs while looking for other positions.

[-Vyse- 65]

While it seems like a good idea I just dont know if I can wait that long to draft a QB. I kind of like having a quarterback I can just set in my lineup and forget about instead of having to play the waiver wire and matchups for one

[TBayXXXVII 2,553]

Winston in the 10th round this year and don't look back

 

+1 Though, you can wait a bit longer.

[Ray_T 754]

 

Or just draft one QB late and you can still stream the position without having two on your roster all the time. It can still work.

Yep. Most of the time.

 

once in a while it turns out that all QB's on the wire have crappy matchups, but if you plan a week or two prior to the time you need the QB you can usually manage it.

 

12 team leagues are a little tougher and require a bit more of a time committment on your part to make sure your roster switches are planned out and to make sure you get the guy you want on your roster.

 

In a 10 team league you should be looking into this stragegy every year. It is by far the best strategy in a 10 teamer.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

While it seems like a good idea I just dont know if I can wait that long to draft a QB. I kind of like having a quarterback I can just set in my lineup and forget about instead of having to play the waiver wire and matchups for one

 

You can still wait on QB and set and forget him. If he doesn't make the cut for you then you can just stream another. You don't have to pick a QB knowing you're going to have to stream him, just know that streaming is an option if he doesn't work out.

 

You can spend an early pick on a QB and find that you still have to stream like with Luck and even Wilson last year. So why use that early pick when you can just wait?

[LunaTick 30]

 

So you'd rather take a risk at a position that is proven to be much riskier. You only need one QB and there are plenty to be had during the season. There are not many RBs to be had and are hard to find on waivers. It's much more important to get those skilled positions earlier than your QB.

 

Which positions are you thinking is more volatile? RB or QB

versus

Which position is of more value? RB or QB

 

Take a listen to the first Fantasy Football Weekly with Paul Charchian found here

http://kfan.iheart.com/media/podcast-fantasy-football-weekly-FantasyFBWeekly/

Talks about the volatility of the RB

 

Question I have is after hearing the Do the Opposite or Zero RB.

Knowing only way for a WR or a receiving RB to achieve value is by their QB.

Does this push the QB into the void created by Zero RB?

 

I've been thinking of my response to this topic from many pov's.

Great thing is. It gives me a reason to look at last years draft and results.

 

Looking at the results of this 10 team league for 2015. 15 QB drafted 20 on rosters end of season.

Last years shocks at QB were

Negative = Luck | Rodgers w/o Nelson | Rothlisberger | Ryan

Positive = Newton | Bortles | Palmer | Cousin (last three not drafted)

 

next task for me is at RB and WR.

 

At end, I think it comes down to comfort-ability at position.

How much you want to manage a position

can you day trade a QB to get the cumulative value to total near the #5 QB at end of season.

 

Have fun.Stay calm

[mgs316 14]

It's working for me so far (first time I've tried it.)

 

Been rotating Tyrod and Flacco for between 10-20 points a week (low scoring pt system), just playing the matchups or gut call. Dumped Flacco now, grabbed Hoyer.

 

4-1 with second most points and Jordan Reed has only had one good week so I haven't peaked I would hope.

 

I've spent a lot in the past to grab an elite QB and been burned. This is kind of fun.

[DaBeerz 88]

Most leagues I play in are heavily weighted to QB scoring. That said you can find some quite servicable QB's later in the drafts if you're not taking one of the top end guys.

 

Guys like Carr, Rivers, Big Ben are pretty good on a weekly basis. Even a guy like Matt Ryan has been very good.

 

AR has underperformed this year, so has Luck, Wilson, and Newton (also injured). Taking a top QB is no guarantee of production.

[jgcrawfish 232]

it's a mixed bag for me.

 

In my work league i got Rodgers late 3rd round in 12 teamer. 6Pts all TD's and his value was too much to let pass. I'd be killing that league but lost Keenan Allen early. Rodgers is the 5th highest scoring QB by avg/gm but was 3rd QB drafted. Sort of wish I'd waited here.

 

Big double league 12 team x 2 (6 pts all TD's) I missed the draft and it auto drafted me a zero QB strategy. Ended up with Tyrod Taylor. League starts 8 and has benches of only 6 deep. Somebody dropped Matt Ryan and I scooped him. Haven't looked back since.

 

14 team sports writer league (4 pts passing TD). Went Roethlisberger in the 5th round as 5th QB taken. he's the only thing keeping my team afloat after injuries to Charles, Eifert, Gates, Moncrief and poor play by Beckham. If my team gets right and healthy I can make a run, but at 1-4 it's not very likely.

[VinAZ1 0]

Tried it this year for the first time, drafting from the 12-spot. My picks were:

 

L. Miller

ARob

Keenan Allen

Sammy Watkins

Gore

R. Jennings

J. Gordon

Bortles

Cousins

 

In my other leagues, I just went with best player available, and things turned out much better. No more zero RB strategy for me...

[redsrback 30]

Tried it this year for the first time, drafting from the 12-spot. My picks were:

 

L. Miller

ARob

Keenan Allen

Sammy Watkins

Gore

R. Jennings

J. Gordon

Bortles

Cousins

 

In my other leagues, I just went with best player available, and things turned out much better. No more zero RB strategy for me...

0 RB means your first 2 or 3 picks are WRs, Lamar Miller with your first pick voids the 0 RB theory. Could of possibly had AJ Green in there instead of the under producing and injured WRs u did pick in the 12th pick.

[Byrdman5 112]

Rarely draft a qb b4 round 8. I would rather play matchups for 2 decent qbs then hold one stud and play him against bad matchups. Have made the playoffs 8 out of 9 years. I think i took Rivers in the 10th as my starter this year.

[VinAZ1 0]

Nah...Green was long gone. Took the best RB available at the spot and went WR heavy from there.

 

May or may not technically be zero-RB, but premise was the same. Loaded up on WRs early and RBs later.

 

The best strategy will always be take-the-best-talent-available-and-hope-they-don't-get-hurt...

[erikthebassist 41]

If I can get a stud early, like a rothlesberger or rogers or newton, I'll go after them, but not before the third round. I wanted Brady in the 5th but someone took him so I went gordon instead, Brady was the last QB on the board I was willing to look at after that until the 10th, where I took Tyrod then Cousins. Both have been a disappointment for me, and in my league, waiver wire pickings are slim. Someone offered me Stratton for Bennett and I have olsen. I should have taken it now I think. I might re-offer it.

[Djgb13 2,339]

I believe I got Stafford in 12. Took Brady in Round 8 in a couple leagues to pair with Stafford. One league I got Brees in round 6 and couldn't pass up that value.

[Frozenbeernuts 2,270]

Got Tyrod for $2 at auction. Then picked up Prescott before the season started. I am 5-0 with most points scored. Couldn't be happier with Dak. I just hope he keeps it up.

[jgcrawfish 232]

It ain't when you draft 'em, it's who you draft. If you went late with Ryan or Philip Rivers, you look like a freakin genius right now. If you went late with Cousins or Dalton, well, maybe not so much.

 

nobody knows nothing...it's all educated guessing.

[thePRO 78]

Well I ended up going Brees in 2/3 $$$ leagues.

 

3-2 w/Brees

4-1 w/Brees

5-0 w/Carr

 

0QB theory FTW!!!

 

Hoyer might win some people those championships like Fitzpatrick did last year!