*** Official Third Presidential Debate thread ***

[mobb_deep 920]

What I took away from the date last night is Trump will add more to the debt than Hillary. Doesn't sound like a conservative fiscal platform to me.

 

Oh, and "swatches" of land. Whatever that is.

[Herbivore 1,138]

I thought Wallace did a good job. I think though if it was Anderson Cooper challenging Trump the way Wallace did, Repubs would be crying bias like crazy.

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

So he accepted it after he challenged it? But Trump can't do the same. Wow.

 

The problem is that Trump is not accepting even before the election. What if he wins? Is he going to say that his Presidency is starting under a cloud of suspicion?

 

If it is a close race and Trump thinks that there is a valid reason to challenge, then he is within his rights to do so. However, this BS that he is starting with makes him look like a sore loser. Even worse would be for him to win and people can then say that he admitted that our elections could be rigged and he was able to do it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

 

The problem is that Trump is not accepting even before the election. What if he wins? Is he going to say that his Presidency is starting under a cloud of suspicion?

 

If it is a close race and Trump thinks that there is a valid reason to challenge, then he is within his rights to do so. However, this BS that he is starting with makes him look like a sore loser. Even worse would be for him to win and people can then say that he admitted that our elections could be rigged and he was able to do it.

If you ignore the fact that the DNC's voter registration fraud is currently being exposed.

[drobeski 3,061]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/19/politics/hillary-clinton-wins-third-presidential-debate-according-to-cnn-orc-poll/index.html

 

Would help if you could read

cnn is as credible as mad magazine

[Cruzer 1,995]

So he accepted it after he challenged it? But Trump can't do the same. Wow.

He called the night of - before all of Florida went ape shiit - he called to concede... It was only after the networks admitted they called it early and that the count wasn't done yet did he retract.

 

The Don is going in crying its' rigged. Which of course, if by some miracle he does win - then all of the sudden it wasn't rigged... But I could be wrong altogether - I'm confused if he's talking about the Presidential election, or the Emmys still...

[wiffleball 4,790]

Lots of ignorance going on.

 

Willfull?

[Reality 3,121]

He called the night of - before all of Florida went ape shiit - he called to concede... It was only after the networks admitted they called it early and that the count wasn't done yet did he retract.

 

The Don is going in crying its' rigged. Which of course, if by some miracle he does win - then all of the sudden it wasn't rigged... But I could be wrong altogether - I'm confused if he's talking about the Presidential election, or the Emmys still...

 

Yea, then Gore only wanted certain left leaning counties recounted... This is all bs, revisionist history, on a topic that the left doesn't have a leg to stand on..

 

It's focking embarrassing really.

[Cruzer 1,995]

personally I couldn't give a rats ass if he accepts or not, it really has no bearing

To be honest, I don't either. I mean really, what difference does it make?

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Especially considering the people making a big deal about it are the same people that voted for Al Gore.. Gore didn't concede until 5 weeks after the focking election..

 

 

I'm pretty sure we live in the Twilight Zone.

 

 

Gore challenged votes in one area in a highly close race.

Trump is already basically saying he won't concede despite it likely being a complete landslide.

That you don't know the difference is not very surprising.

[mobb_deep 920]

 

Yea, then Gore only wanted certain left leaning counties recounted... This is all bs, revisionist history, on a topic that the left doesn't have a leg to stand on..

 

It's focking embarrassing really.

 

Doesn't matter because Gore still won the election by half a million votes.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

I want the voting investigated no matter who wins. As seen on those tapes, there is fraud going on.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

 

I watched the whole thing. He didn't step on his d1ck quite as much as the previous two debates, but he didn't win. The winner wasn't in doubt right from the point where Hillary said he met with the Mexican president, didn't address the wall, and "choked".

 

One of the first things that got him...also his rant on Putin.

She sucked in avoiding the pay for play stuff.

Also...his all over the place immigration hits on her. She is not strong on immigration yet supported the wall, and Obama deported a bunch of people. Is he trying to tell us she and Obama have been stronger on immigration than he tries to portray? Really odd line of thought by him there.

His Mosul stuff was also so over the top stupid its crazy.

 

She really did nothing that should sway anyone on her own. Her strange smile and talking over the moderator often were very off putting.

He did similar...Matthews tried but they both still talked over him (and his Im not a potted plant line was fantastic).

It was again more campaign talking points and barbs at each other showing how bad both of them really are.

She does come off as more "statesman" like than he ever can though. That will be her appeal to some.

 

How anyone can watch him speak and think he needs to run this country...its focking nuts.

[DankNuggs 305]

I don't get the big deal... I'm sure everyone is hoping Trump throws a temper tantrum when he loses...

 

 

Dumb thing for him to say as it doesn't help anything, but that, the nasty women, and the pro life justices were unforced errors... He dominated the rest, but they have to find a way to make it a draw.. He had to know the media would look for that one line headline and he served it up for them.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

 

Doesn't matter because Gore still won the election by half a million votes.

Gore didn't win his home state. Because a certain group of people, the same ones HRC is counting on, didn't show up to vote. Gore wins Tennessse and the election if they do. But of course, it was all Ralph Naders fault, can't dare criticize that other crew.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Reverse Liberalism. They are so used to giving out participation trophys it's actually news when someone won't accept one.

 

Other than the 5 clumsy rehearsed statements, Hillary had nothing to say of any substance. Trump beat her from one end of the stage to the other last night.

 

He what? On what points did he beat her? Pay to play...that is pretty much it.

I agree, she had little substance...did he? Other than his rehearsed campaign talking points...what substance did he give? We are going to be tremendous, bigly, bring back jobs, beat ISIS, build a wall. Seriously, what substance?

[Cruzer 1,995]

 

Yea, then Gore only wanted certain left leaning counties recounted... This is all bs, revisionist history, on a topic that the left doesn't have a leg to stand on..

 

It's focking embarrassing really.

You seem to forget: once the Florida totals were being finalized, and W's margin of votes shrank to a certain % - by Florida law, a recount was triggered...... Again - by Florida law.

 

The target counties Gore specifically wanted to make sure got recounted were the counties using the Chad voting ballot. Did that happen to prolly benefit him? Yes - but he didn't trigger the recount, the law did.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

I started writing out/explaining the differences between Gore/Bush 2000 and what Trump has been alleging, when I saw a bunch of new posts had popped up. After reading them, I said fock it, I'm going to do something more productive with my time and teach calculus to monkeys.

[DankNuggs 305]

I thought Wallace did a good job. I think though if it was Anderson Cooper challenging Trump the way Wallace did, Repubs would be crying bias like crazy.

Wallace challenged fairly... He asked the questions on topics that highlighted the major differences in their campaigns, and tried to minimize the anecdotal bs that is the dem bread and butter...

 

She tried on the 2nd amendment toddler thing, and the syrian refugee picture thing...

[DankNuggs 305]

I started writing out/explaining the differences between Gore/Bush 2000 and what Trump has been alleging, when I saw a bunch of new posts had popped up. After reading them, I said fock it, I'm going to do something more productive with my time and teach calculus to monkeys.

Gore thing is different, and if you asked Gore the same question as a calculating politician no way he says what trump said. and no one would have an issue making sure the voting process concluded properly... It was just something that didn't need to be said.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Trump won on abortion and immigration

 

lost everywhere else

 

How did he win on abortion? Thought that was one where he got crushed. Immigration I give it to him for her stupid open border statement...but him being all over the place on her and Obama was a mistep.

I give him the win on SA and the foundation and pay to play.

 

But his accusations that she caused the violence (rather than reality of even those videos) and that Mosul was to get her elected were absurd. Completely absurd.

[DankNuggs 305]

 

Yea, then Gore only wanted certain left leaning counties recounted... This is all bs, revisionist history, on a topic that the left doesn't have a leg to stand on..

 

It's focking embarrassing really.

Its one of a million times that trump didn't qualify what he was trying to say and as a result left himself open to damaging interpretations

[Sho Nuff 720]

What I took away from the date last night is Trump will add more to the debt than Hillary. Doesn't sound like a conservative fiscal platform to me.

 

Oh, and "swatches" of land. Whatever that is.

I prefer huge tracts of land.

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

Gore thing is different, and if you asked Gore the same question as a calculating politician no way he says what trump said. and no one would have an issue making sure the voting process concluded properly... It was just something that didn't need to be said.

 

Clearly you understand the difference, some of the previous posts clearly show others do not.

[DankNuggs 305]

 

How did he win on abortion? Thought that was one where he got crushed. Immigration I give it to him for her stupid open border statement...but him being all over the place on her and Obama was a mistep.

I give him the win on SA and the foundation and pay to play.

 

But his accusations that she caused the violence (rather than reality of even those videos) and that Mosul was to get her elected were absurd. Completely absurd.

agreed. Roe v Wade challenging is a loser. Late term abortions is a fair point though and he did try to stay in that arena. I think the pro life justices thing was a mistake to harp on.

[Sho Nuff 720]

agreed. Roe v Wade challenging is a loser. Late term abortions is a fair point though and he did try to stay in that arena. I think the pro life justices thing was a mistake to harp on.

 

He tried...but his whole...Hillary wants to rip a baby out 1, 2, 3 or 4 days before birth stuff was complete crap.

And Hillary seems to have made it clear her support of late term is in the severe cases where the mother's health is in question. I have not fact checked her on that if that has been her position...but if so, seems quite reasonable to most people.

[Reality 3,121]

Its one of a million times that trump didn't qualify what he was trying to say and as a result left himself open to damaging interpretations

 

Yup, I get it, he absolutely left himself open for criticism on that one.

 

it's just funny listening to the left try to make it something it's not considering their recent history.

[DankNuggs 305]

 

He tried...but his whole...Hillary wants to rip a baby out 1, 2, 3 or 4 days before birth stuff was complete crap.

And Hillary seems to have made it clear her support of late term is in the severe cases where the mother's health is in question. I have not fact checked her on that if that has been her position...but if so, seems quite reasonable to most people.

devil is in the details... define 'health in question' seems that could have some pretty wide ranging latitude...

 

Sounds good and reasonable though

[wiffleball 4,790]

Gore thing is different, and if you asked Gore the same question as a calculating politician no way he says what trump said. and no one would have an issue making sure the voting process concluded properly... It was just something that didn't need to be said.

 

Gore thing is different, and if you asked Gore the same question as a calculating politician no way he says what trump said. and no one would have an issue making sure the voting process concluded properly... It was just something that didn't need to be said.

 

One of the (many) things I'm not seeing brought up herein (shockingly) is that Gore didn't spend the weeks and months leading up to the election pre-couching the election results as 'rigged' and 'tainted' . Nowhere did he say in September/October "If I lose, it's because the system is rigged!"

 

So yeah, asking a guy who spends all his time talking about how the results are tainted - before there are any - and how the system is rigged - even when his own staff says there's no substantion proof of that - and Trump offers none of his own

WOULD tend to beg the question "Will you honor the final vote?"

 

I mean geez guys, common sense much?

[wiffleball 4,790]

One of my favorite parts of the debate - because it was the most honest was when Trump (yet again said)

 

"No one respects women more than me"

 

 

- And the crowd spontaneously broke into laughter

 

I mean, even Trump's most ardent supporters couldn't possibly swallow that one

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

Trump should have said he respects women more than Hillary does, because it's true. Woukd have scored many points, but alas, he made it about him, again. One of his many downfalls.

[wiffleball 4,790]

One of the biggest head scratchers from me - and Trump did this in the 2nd debate as well is this:

 

 

Trump denied, denied denied - that the Russians have been involved in the political hacking - Even though the FBI, DNI, etc have ALL gone on record (and prior to that, said so off the record) that it is them. Just watch/re-read the No last night Hillary brings that up and he goes into his usual 5th grade mode: "Nope, Not proven, Didn't happen, You don't know that They don't know that They don't know . No one knows, you don't know... " - Just over and over again - doing his best impersonation of a guy who sticks his hands over his ears and goes LALALALLALA I can't hear you!

 

 

What I don't get is - why? I mean, I can usually figure out what a guy's angle is - even if I don't believe or agree with hiim - but in this case - UNLESS YOU ARE IN BED WITH THE RUSSIANS - why would you try to deny that? I mean, entire elections have been won simply by bashing the Ruskies - it's political gold. It's easy and foolproof. -0 And Trump steadfastly has denied the Russians have anything to do with it - and totally disrespected the entire Intelligence Agency at the same time

 

They interviewed a guy who gets the same kind of briefings that Donald gets - and he - without detail - confirmed that such briefings provide even more specificity on this subject Hell, the DNI came out again just this morning saying "Yes, Yes we DO know its the Russians"

 

I mean honestly, if you're not in bed with the Russians somehow, why wouldn't you at least lean toward the possibility that they're dirty? Why would you disrespect the Intelligence Agency? If he won't believe them now, what happens when he's President?

 

Same thing with Trump last night saying "I don't know Putin" - When he's on film saying Putin is a friend of his Why the sudden turn-around on that too?

[Reality 3,121]

You seem to forget: once the Florida totals were being finalized, and W's margin of votes shrank to a certain % - by Florida law, a recount was triggered...... Again - by Florida law.

 

The target counties Gore specifically wanted to make sure got recounted were the counties using the Chad voting ballot. Did that happen to prolly benefit him? Yes - but he didn't trigger the recount, the law did.

 

Just a FYI, Florida law triggered the full machine recount. Gore had to file a lawsuit to select his handpicked counties for the hand count.

 

I am glad I could educate you a bit on this.

 

Like I said, this is another case of the left trying to make a big deal out of something that isn't. Lord Knows Trump is an idiot and says stupid sh!t.. Even more hypocritical concerning recent history. it's typical with liberals that they are more disturbed by "words" than actual "actions".

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

 

Just a FYI, Florida law triggered the full machine recount. Gore had to file a lawsuit to select his handpicked counties for the hand count.

 

I am glad I could educate you a bit on this.

 

Like I said, this is another case of the left trying to make a big deal out of something that isn't. Lord Knows Trump is an idiot and says stupid sh!t.. Even more hypocritical concerning recent history. it's typical with liberals that they are more disturbed by "words" than actual "actions".

 

Due to the narrow margin of the original vote count, Florida Election Code 102.141 mandated a statewide machine recount.[30] In addition, the Gore campaign requested that the votes in three counties be recounted by hand. Florida state law at the time allowed the candidate to request a manual recount by protesting the results of at least three precincts.[31] The county canvassing board would then decide whether to recount as well as the method of the recount in those three precincts.[32] If the board discovered an error, they were then authorized to recount the ballots.[33]

 

You are an amazing teacher.

[Reality 3,121]

 

 

You are an amazing teacher.

 

Thanks for the confirmation, Florida didn't pick democratic left leaning counties for hand counts. Gore had to file suit and request those counties, and no sh!t, as allowed by Florida law.

 

They also filed a lawsuit in state circuit court in West Palm Beach challenging the validity of the Palm Beach County vote. That is one I remember, I'm sure there were others but, don't feel like looking..

 

I forget where I'm at sometimes, it's like talking to brick walls around here...

 

[edjr 6,608]

Be honest Reality. Who would you vote for if the ticket were Clinton/Cuddyer

[Reality 3,121]

Be honest Reality. Who would you vote for if the ticket were Clinton/Cuddyer

 

 

 

I'd do the same thing I'm doing this year, I'll be abstaining from the presidential portion of my ballot..

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

 

He tried...but his whole...Hillary wants to rip a baby out 1, 2, 3 or 4 days before birth stuff was complete crap.

And Hillary seems to have made it clear her support of late term is in the severe cases where the mother's health is in question. I have not fact checked her on that if that has been her position...but if so, seems quite reasonable to most people.

 

here's why, Hillary wants to allow abortions if the mother's life is at risk up until the day of birth, why not just do a c-section and save the babies life, I mean I can't understand a procedure that kills the baby but keeps the mom alive, it still has to be delivered alive or dead one way or another

 

as to how Trump won, I am pro-life, and I am tired of people using abortion as birth control

 

also planned parenthood is a sham, most of the clinics don't even do mammograms, and 97% of their funding goes to abortion procedures

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

and we have obamacare which hillary loves and wants to build on, so they can just cover all that stuff, no need for private clinics funded by public sector

[Mike Honcho 5,294]

 

Thanks for the confirmation, Florida didn't pick democratic left leaning counties for hand counts. Gore had to file suit and request those counties, and no sh!t, as allowed by Florida law.

 

They also filed a lawsuit in state circuit court in West Palm Beach challenging the validity of the Palm Beach County vote. That is one I remember, I'm sure there were others but, don't feel like looking..

 

I forget where I'm at sometimes, it's like talking to brick walls around here...

 

 

He DID NOT HAVE TO FILE SUIT, you focking tard. Florida law allowed for 3 manual recounts, by protesting the manual recount, not suit needed. And I don't forget where I am, your stupidity is a giant neon sign that I'm at the geek club.