Would you support the Feds requiring photo I.D. for all General Elections?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

The problem of voter fraud is the one that is statistically insignificant.

Keeping people from voting is not. Even it is a small margin...voting is a right and making it harder for some is a non-starter.

 

Spend whatever it takes? Why? Because you feel there is so much fraud (despite the statistics that say otherwise)? Not a very conservative view point there.

Man, I'm just tired of the same schtick being used. Voter fraud is insignificant statiscally? And how do we know that? Because the states where you don't have to prove who you to vote say so?

 

If we don't verify who the voters are, how would we know the true numbers on voter fraud? This shouldn't be based on the honor system.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Same crew that went to the wall over freaks and bathrooms. They do what they're told, never stray from the mantra. No matter how stupid they are made to look.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

Though...here is the question. It has to be free...including transportation to a place to obtain one (part of the issue is where to get ID and the hours).

But...free is free to them...how much do we spend on trying to solve a problem that is statistically insignificant?

You were NOT talking about voter fraud there. You were talking about IDs and their cost.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

A. Because voter fraud is not a significant issue in this country.

B. An ID will not likely stop the occurrences of fraud that have been reported.

 

The right (meaning lawmakers) don't give a crap about voter fraud. They care about doing what they can to make sure their side has an advantage based on the numbers. In this case...the numbers show that groups that typically vote democrat would be less likely to have an ID...therefore, they are for strict voter ID laws (and others that would restrict hours and so on like in NC). Democrats are no better...they know there numbers are hurt by such laws and oppose it for that reason. If the statistics were reversed...the party's opinions on the laws would be as well.

Voter fraud is insignificant, but people without id's are all over the place. Moron

[5-Points 3,766]

[vuduchile 1,947]

 

this is from 2008.

 

 

 

 

If you can't afford that, you shouldn't vote. Focking christ.

 

If voting is that important to you, you find a way to save 5 bucks a year for 6 years

 

Even poor people waste 20, 30 bucks on sh1t.

 

stop making excuses and acting like ID's cost $300

 

and I'm not even registered to vote!!!

Please don't confuse me with being one of those people who believe it's a poll tax. I'm just telling you why those are people against it.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Man, I'm just tired of the same schtick being used. Voter fraud is insignificant statiscally? And how do we know that? Because the states where you don't have to prove who you to vote say so?

 

If we don't verify who the voters are, how would we know the true numbers on voter fraud? This shouldn't be based on the honor system.

 

Because study after study has shown it to be statistically insignificant. Its not schtick...its called the research of the issue that has been done time and time again.

[Sho Nuff 720]

You were NOT talking about voter fraud there. You were talking about IDs and their cost.

I was talking about the "problem" being voter fraud. IDs are supposed to solve that problem.

[Cloaca du jour 2,157]

Of course, is this still a thing?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

Because study after study has shown it to be statistically insignificant. Its not schtick...its called the research of the issue that has been done time and time again.

Again, if you don't verify people are who they say they are, how would you know?

 

If you don't have do a screening for cancer, you can say 'I am cancer free'? False logic man.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

In summation: Shonuff and his band of spice girls are complete Fockin idiots who obviously have never spent any time around black people.

[edjr 6,898]

Again, if you don't verify people are who they say they are, how would you know?

 

If you don't have do a screening for cancer, you can say 'I am cancer free'? False logic man.

 

 

Not sure who this guy is, but I like him

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

I'm going to start calling Libs here SJW.

 

Does anyone think minorities just roll into a bank to get money out and they're given a pass on having a photo ID?

[edjr 6,898]

I'm going to start calling Libs here SJW.

 

Does anyone think minorities just roll into a bank to get money out and they're given a pass on having a photo ID?

 

"hi I'd like to take money out of my account"

 

"do you have an id"

 

"no, but I promise my name is Juan Valdez and I live at 15 coffee lane"

 

"here's your money SIr.

[NewbieJr 541]

To stop voter fraud.

 

Why is only one side AGAINST proving who you are to cast a vote?

 

That argument is so focking stupid you have me rethinking my position on late term abortions being okay until....... how old are you?

But there is no voter fraud. That's fake news invented by the right to push their agenda of making harder for less fortunate people to vote. At some point, you're going to understand. That was the fourth time I explained it.

[edjr 6,898]

But there is no voter fraud.

 

You mean like the left blaming russia for Trump winning the election:

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

I'm going to start calling Libs here SJW.

 

Does anyone think minorities just roll into a bank to get money out and they're given a pass on having a photo ID?

No, because it's bullshit they make up to keep the minority vote without having to actually service it. If they convince the minority vote that the other side is racist then they have them. It's much harder to actually do something to improve their lot, which they haven't. It's a cheap, easy way to get votes. They did the same thing with unions and working people. But that ran out when a lot of those people woke up. Blacks are next and then the hard left democrat will be almost out of business.

[MDC 7,883]

I don't feel strongly about it either way. Most states have some ID requirement. As long as they're not changing the rules in an election year I'm cool with it.

 

That said I think it's pretty obviously just a hurdle to make it harder for lower class people to vote. Of all the ways to commit voter fraud showing up to the polls to impersonate one person, essentially risking jail time for a single vote, seems like just about the dumbest way to do it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Love these white liberal douches on here talking about the less fortunate as if they have any clue as to how they actually live. Just stfu and go to the mall, ok?

[NewbieJr 541]

 

You mean like the left blaming russia for Trump winning the election:

I don't.

[edjr 6,898]

I don't feel strongly about it either way.

 

That said I think it's pretty obviously just a hurdle to make it harder for lower class people to vote.

 

[NewbieJr 541]

Love these white liberal douches on here talking about the less fortunate as if they have any clue as to how they actually live. Just stfu and go to the mall, ok?

LOLOL Tell us about your struggles on the mean streets.

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In summation: Shonuff and his band of spice girls are complete Fockin idiots who obviously have never spent any time around black people.

The soft bigotry of low expectations is a cornerstone of liberalism.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Again, if you don't verify people are who they say they are, how would you know?

 

If you don't have do a screening for cancer, you can say 'I am cancer free'? False logic man.

Yeah...it's my logic that is false. Or that of numerous studies. Go ahead and research...look with their methods. You seem to think you know better than them...I'd suggest you inform them of what hey did wrong.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I'm going to start calling Libs here SJW.

 

Does anyone think minorities just roll into a bank to get money out and they're given a pass on having a photo ID?

What does this nonsense have to do with anything?

[Sho Nuff 720]

LOLOL Tell us about your struggles on the mean streets.

Who is even claiming what he is whining about? Just more ignorant rants by RP I'm missing I guess

[Sho Nuff 720]

The soft bigotry of low expectations is a cornerstone of liberalism.

I'll quote your reply to RPs foolish rant.

My thoughts in this thread are based on years of statistics...facts about who has historically not had an ID in this country. Not some fake experiences he claims to have had with people...or your bs claim of bigotry.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Don't really give a flip. The people voted and there was a landslide victory despite this so called popular vote. Yea real popular, typically blue states going red. Is there corruption in politics? Does the pope wear a funny hat? Of,course there is. But the election was legit and Russia had nothing to do with it.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I guess being educated and understanding statistics is now some far lefty liberal thing.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Don't really give a flip. The people voted and there was a landslide victory despite this so called popular vote. Yea real popular, typically blue states going red. Is there corruption in politics? Does the pope wear a funny hat? Of,course there is. But the election was legit and Russia had nothing to do with it.

There wasn't some landslide victory and Russia did have an affect your post is complete bullshit

 

Trump is still the legitimate president but that does not mean that your statement isn't just felt

[NewbieJr 541]

Who is even claiming what he is whining about? Just more ignorant rants by RP I'm missing I guess

The guy is dumb as a bag of hammers. I just like making fun of him.

[joneo 562]

 

A. Because voter fraud is not a significant issue in this country.

B. An ID will not likely stop the occurrences of fraud that have been reported.

 

The right (meaning lawmakers) don't give a crap about voter fraud. They care about doing what they can to make sure their side has an advantage based on the numbers. In this case...the numbers show that groups that typically vote democrat would be less likely to have an ID...therefore, they are for strict voter ID laws (and others that would restrict hours and so on like in NC). Democrats are no better...they know there numbers are hurt by such laws and oppose it for that reason. If the statistics were reversed...the party's opinions on the laws would be as well.

 

 

Because you say so, right? Or maybe the pollsters told ya so?? or CNN?? It's all a conspiracy to you and your ilk believing that Republicans are only for this to diminish the number of poor people who likely vote democrat.

[NewbieJr 541]

Don't really give a flip. The people voted and there was a landslide victory despite this so called popular vote. Yea real popular, typically blue states going red. Is there corruption in politics? Does the pope wear a funny hat? Of,course there is. But the election was legit and Russia had nothing to do with it.

Pssst. He lost by three million votes. He won according to the rules, which is fine. But let's not go around acting like he won in a landslide when three more million people voted for his opponent.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

 

Because you say so, right? Or maybe the pollsters told ya so?? or CNN?? It's all a conspiracy to you and your ilk believing that Republicans are only for this to diminish the number of poor people who likely vote democrat.

Because it's been shown in places like NC...because study after study have shown that it's not a significant problem.

 

Educate yourself for once rather than continuing to spew your stupidity.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

The guy is dumb as a bag of hammers. I just like making fun of him.

The biggest joke around here saying that to the second biggest. Funny.

[iam90sbaby 2,727]

Yeah...it's my logic that is false. Or that of numerous studies. Go ahead and research...look with their methods. You seem to think you know better than them...I'd suggest you inform them of what hey did wrong.

 

Voter Fraud Study funded by the Liberals Association of America (hypothetical just making a point) you only go to hard left website, so you only see hard left studies, and that is why you are getting left behind.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

Voter Fraud Study funded by the Liberals Association of America (hypothetical just making a point) you only go to hard left website, so you only see hard left studies, and that is why you are getting left behind.

Then find legit studies to focking refute them. Rather than just ignorantly denying them as you just did.

[NewbieJr 541]

The biggest joke around here saying that to the second biggest. Funny.

Whatever you say Flipper.

[tanatastic 2,062]

Pssst. He lost by three million votes. He won according to the rules, which is fine. But let's not go around acting like he won in a landslide when three more million people voted for his opponent.

There wasn't some landslide victory and Russia did have an affect your post is complete bullshit

Trump is still the legitimate president but that does not mean that your statement isn't just felt

Russia having an effect on the election sounds like high level conspiracy theory kookery. Also it was a landslide in the electoral college...the thing that actually decides the results. Saying it's not a landslide is like saying a team that wins 31-10 didn't destroy the other team because the other team had more net yards gained.

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I'll quote your reply to RPs foolish rant.

My thoughts in this thread are based on years of statistics...facts about who has historically not had an ID in this country. Not some fake experiences he claims to have had with people...or your bs claim of bigotry.

My claim of bigotry was directed at liberalism, which you clearly don't subscribe to, so it had nothing to do with you.

 

As for my claim being bs, did you watch the video I posted?

 

Also, it doesn't matter who has "historically not had an I.D. in this country". The fact is, it isn't terribly difficult to obtain one in this day and age.