No Muslim Refugee has ever committed an act of terror in the U.S.

[cyclone24 1,935]

absolutely. Trump just made any American citizen who is Homeland is one of the seven countries that are banned, hate us. I'm sure there are dozens of people planning Revenge as we speak. Thanks Trump

Oh yes...because they didn't want to kill us or weren't already plotting before.

 

THIS sent them over the edge...jesus you guys jump at shadows that arent even shadows yet.

Holy sky is falling chicken littles.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Oh yes...because they didn't want to kill us or weren't already plotting before.

 

THIS sent them over the edge...jesus you guys jump at shadows that arent even shadows yet.

Holy sky is falling chicken littles.

You deny it?

Are you seriously naive enough to think this won't have that effect? That ISIS won't use this as recruiting?

That it's not possible that a kid here now whose mom or dad can't come won't seek radical things because the country he lives in did this?

 

This did more to make us and our people and troops less safe than it did to protect us.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,543]

Jihadist: how bout we attack America!

Jihadist 2: no we shouldn't do that

Jihadist: but they just banned people from our country from coming to America

Jihadist 2: how bout we attack America!

[cyclone24 1,935]

You deny it?

Are you seriously naive enough to think this won't have that effect? That ISIS won't use this as recruiting?

That it's not possible that a kid here now whose mom or dad can't come won't seek radical things because the country he lives in did this?

 

This did more to make us and our people and troops less safe than it did to protect us.

They hate us anyway. This isnt sparking anymore than it was already.

 

Funny...why arent you liberals blaming obama? This is HIS list of countries that are viewed as most dangerous. Its a 90 day ban...90...focking...days.

Jesus you guys need to pace your faux outrage.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Once again, the drones that Obama launched turned many Muslims against U.S. and some became jihadists. I don't recall the left or the libtards around here being concsrened then. The drones are a much bigger deal than this temporary travel restriction

[wiffleball 4,797]

They hate us anyway. This isnt sparking anymore than it was already.

 

Funny...why arent you liberals blaming obama? This is HIS list of countries that are viewed as most dangerous. Its a 90 day ban...90...focking...days.

Jesus you guys need to pace your faux outrage.

You and Raider keep bringing up facile, simplistic things that have been addressed repeatedly.

 

...So, maybe read a little, huh?

[cyclone24 1,935]

You and Raider keep bringing up facile, simplistic things that have been addressed repeatedly.

 

...So, maybe read a little, huh?

No.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Indonesia is the most populous Muslim country in the world. Not banned.

[Sho Nuff 720]

They hate us anyway. This isnt sparking anymore than it was already.

 

Funny...why arent you liberals blaming obama? This is HIS list of countries that are viewed as most dangerous. Its a 90 day ban...90...focking...days.

Jesus you guys need to pace your faux outrage.

You realize there are many that don't hate us.

You realize that many who have committed terrorist acts in this country didn't always just hate us. But something triggered them to seek out radical Islam.

 

Wait...you probably don't realize that...never mind.

 

Obummer

Yet another who doesn't understand that bill that went thru congress and the differences.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

You realize there are many that don't hate us.

You realize that many who have committed terrorist acts in this country didn't always just hate us. But something triggered them to seek out radical Islam.

 

Wait...you probably don't realize that...never mind.

 

Obummer

Yet another who doesn't understand that bill that went thru congress and the differences.

Something triggered them? What was that, a couple of gay guys holding hands? Or something terrible the united states did?

[MDC 7,889]

Once again, the drones that Obama launched turned many Muslims against U.S. and some became jihadists. I don't recall the left or the libtards around here being concsrened then. The drones are a much bigger deal than this temporary travel restriction

I was very concerned and posted about it often but that was way before you joined, go check the official record.

 

I take it you won't like the drone campaign when Trump continues it?

[cbfalcon 827]

Indonesia is the most populous Muslim country in the world. Not banned.

"Also unaffected by the ban is Indonesia, the worlds largest Muslim-majority nation, where there are two Trump-branded resorts under construction"

 

Hope that helps.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

"Also unaffected by the ban is Indonesia, the worlds largest Muslim-majority nation, where there are two Trump-branded resorts under construction"

 

Hope that helps.

But then why are people calling it a Muslim ban? And the countries were designated by the previous administration as the biggest exporters of terrorism. Did Obama have business there?

[cbfalcon 827]

But then why are people calling it a Muslim ban? And the countries were designated by the previous administration as the biggest exporters of terrorism. Did Obama have business there?

I tried to help you. I even said "hope that helps" at the end of my post. If I failed you, then I apologize.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

I tried to help you. I even said "hope that helps" at the end of my post. If I failed you, then I apologize.

Fine. He didnt ban them because he has business. He's greedy. Yada yada. How does that make this a Muslim ban? Is it a "some Muslims " ban then?

[wiffleball 4,797]

And the countries were designated by the previous administration as the biggest exporters of terrorism.

 

 

Link?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

And the countries were designated by the previous administration as the biggest exporters of terrorism.

 

 

Link?

Nope. Common knowledge. Sounds like you're getting all set up for one of your Ticky-tacky semantics plays though. Have at it.

[cyclone24 1,935]

Nope. Common knowledge. Sounds like you're getting all set up for one of your Ticky-tacky semantics plays though. Have at it.

Maybe wiff could ask the.messiah obama?...its his list.

[cbfalcon 827]

Fine. He didnt ban them because he has business. He's greedy. Yada yada. How does that make this a Muslim ban? Is it a "some Muslims " ban then?

I covered this with KSB today. It's not a ban of all Muslims, but it is a ban of only Muslims.

 

I don't really care what it's labeled though. If you want to re-title it "The We Proudly Welcome Muslims from 187 Countries Executive Order", then I'll argue that "The We Proudly Welcome Muslims from 187 Countries Executivr Order" is misguided and un-American.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

I covered this with KSB today. It's not a ban of all Muslims, but it is a ban of only Muslims.

 

I don't really care what it's labeled though. If you want to re-title it "The We Proudly Welcome Muslims from 187 Countries Executive Order", then I'll argue that "The We Proudly Welcome Muslims from 187 Countries Executivr Order" is misguided and un-American.

Do you think Islam is just a religion, or is it also a political ideology?

[wiffleball 4,797]

 

 

Oh yes...because they didn't want to kill us or weren't already plotting before.

THIS sent them over the edge...jesus you guys jump at shadows that arent even shadows yet.

Holy sky is falling chicken littles.

You mean like this?

 

 

Spicer defended the detention of a 5-year-old Iranian boy, who was separated from his parents, by saying it was a good thing to slow down the process and assess people before they were let in.

 

“That’s why we slow it down a little, to make sure that if they are a 5-year-old, that maybe they’re with their parents and they don’t pose a threat,” he said. “But to assume that just because of someone’s age or gender or whatever that they don’t pose a threat would be misguided and wrong.”

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

 

 

 

You mean like this?

 

So we shouldn't screen certain people? Who's exempt?

[SUXBNME 1,595]

Maybe wiff could ask the.messiah obama?...its his list.

Wiff is once again playing the interpretation game like he did last night.

 

Nothing new to see here. Move along now, folks.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Wiff is once again playing the interpretation game like he did last night.

 

Nothing new to see here. Move along now, folks.

You all are still trying to blame Obama.

But it is good for a laugh watching the crap it takes to keep defending Trump.

[wiffleball 4,797]

Wiff is once again playing the interpretation game like he did last night.

 

Nothing new to see here. Move along now, folks.

maybe you guys could play 'the reading game'.

[SUXBNME 1,595]

You all are still trying to blame Obama.

But it is good for a laugh watching the crap it takes to keep defending Trump.

You don't know what I'm referencing to with my comment about Wiff.

[SUXBNME 1,595]

maybe you guys could play 'the reading game'.

Mebbe we could all play 'the reading game' together. Wouldn't it make this imaginary game much more fun?

[wiffleball 4,797]

You don't know what I'm referencing to with my comment about Wiff.

Here's a tip sport - NOBODY does.

 

Are you drinking??

[cyclone24 1,935]

You all are still trying to blame Obama.

But it is good for a laugh watching the crap it takes to keep defending Trump.

Haha....yeah its the guy who has been in charge for a week. Its his fault.

Nobody expects you to ever blame obama for anything.....thus the messiah....heck the only reason you excuse makers stopped blaming bush for your failures is trump came along.

But no...nobody expexts the left to take responsibility.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Haha....yeah its the guy who has been in charge for a week. Its his fault.

Nobody expects you to ever blame obama for anything.....thus the messiah....heck the only reason you excuse makers stopped blaming bush for your failures is trump came along.

But no...nobody expexts the left to take responsibility.

You are right...I do t blame Obama for Trumps executive order or his other stupidity. Why the Fock would I?

 

Bush was blamed for how the economy was when Obama took office and the focking wars we were in.

 

Then again...logic and Trump guy are not really compatible.

[cyclone24 1,935]

You are right...I do t blame Obama for Trumps executive order or his other stupidity. Why the Fock would I?

 

Bush was blamed for how the economy was when Obama took office and the focking wars we were in.

 

Then again...logic and Trump guy are not really compatible.

Way to support what I just said.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Way to support what I just said.

I just made fun of what you just said dumbass.

[cyclone24 1,935]

I just made fun of what you just said dumbass.

Umm...not really. Your humor is about as effective as your political posts are.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Umm...not really. Your humor is about as effective as your political posts are.

 

Your post wanted people to hold Obama responsible for things Trump does...because people held Bush responsible for things that Bush did.

 

Logic is obviously not your strong suit.

[KSB2424 3,173]

And once again John Kasich has the proper thoughts on this....

 

We must strengthen out nations security though well though out and constructed plans. The latest executive order is neither. Proper coordination with implementing agencies and our allies was missing. This order should be replaced with a more thoughtful approach consistent with American values.

 

A more thoughtful and proper approach would have had an Executive Order that stated something to the effect:

 

A 90 day moratorium of Refugees from ISIS hotbed countries goes into effect immediately until my National Security Team has a chance to fully audit the immigration policies currently in place. US Citizens and US Visa and Green Card holders are not effected at this time.

 

At that point you can see if there are any "rubber stamps" or holes in the vetting process and even add layers if needed. Most people would understand that.

 

I simply don't like this shoot first ask questions method of governance.

[Sho Nuff 720]

A well thought out order would have consulted DOJ, State, DHS...does not seem we have a Commander in Chief who thinks things out.

[NewbieJr 541]

And once again John Kasich has the proper thoughts on this....

 

 

A more thoughtful and proper approach would have had an Executive Order that stated something to the effect:

 

A 90 day moratorium of Refugees from ISIS hotbed countries goes into effect immediately until my National Security Team has a chance to fully audit the immigration policies currently in place. US Citizens and US Visa and Green Card holders are not effected at this time.

 

At that point you can see if there are any "rubber stamps" or holes in the vetting process and even add layers if needed. Most people would understand that.

 

I simply don't like this shoot first ask questions method of governance.

I'm with you on this

[Sho Nuff 720]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/politics/ct-fact-check-people-affected-by-travel-ban-20170130-story.html

 

And the Administration is again just lying about the impact.

[cyclone24 1,935]

 

Your post wanted people to hold Obama responsible for things Trump does...because people held Bush responsible for things that Bush did.

 

Logic is obviously not your strong suit.

Jesus will you go to a community college in your town and find a 100 level reading comprehension class? Will you do that for me?

I clearly said you are all bashing Trump for this ban list. To the point where you guys are accusing him of only choosing countries he has no business ties with. The list is not trumps. It's Obamas but you want to blame Trump for the list. Again reading comprehension.

Hell I will pay for the class for you just so I don't have to repeat what I say at a kid level

[NewbieJr 541]

Jesus will you go to a community college in your town and find a 100 level reading comprehension class? Will you do that for me?

I clearly said you are all bashing Trump for this ban list. To the point where you guys are accusing him of only choosing countries he has no business ties with. The list is not trumps. It's Obamas but you want to blame Trump for the list. Again reading comprehension.

Hell I will pay for the class for you just so I don't have to repeat what I say at a kid level

LOL I love the fact that Trumptards are trying to deflect and blame this on Obama. Last I checked, Trump is the one imposing the ban, not Obama. And Trump can add and subtract any countries at any time. 15 of the 17 terrorists involved in 9/11 are from Saudi Arabia, yet Trump decides to leave them off the list. Business conflict? lol