No Muslim Refugee has ever committed an act of terror in the U.S.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

I wish it was a ban. Still beats Hillary's plan

[BunnysBastatrds 2,602]

Let's check off some contrives countries and so called states that are supposed ones....that are in our corner

 

Libya

Iraq

Iran

Syria

Yemen

And the many other countries who could care less about our sovereignty and service.

[mobb_deep 920]

Trump supporters have killed more Muslims this week, than Americans killed by refugees from the banned countries in the last 30 years. Ooops.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Trump supporters have killed more Muslims this week, than Americans killed by refugees from the banned countries in the last 30 years. Ooops.

Hmm. Any terrorist go to any of thise countries for training? Did any have contact with terrorist organizations within those countries, to plan terrorist activities? I know how simple your side likes to make things to fit your view, but this is really stupid, just judging terrorists from where they are born. People move around sometimes. It's actually laughable.

[cyclone24 1,935]

Hmm. Any terrorist go to any of thise countries for training? Did any have contact with terrorist organizations within those countries, to plan terrorist activities? I know how simple your side likes to make things to fit your view, but this is really stupid, just judging terrorists from where they are born. People move around sometimes. It's actually laughable.

It's really an amazing stance that none of them have addressed.

 

They claim that these people are harmless yet a 90-day ban is going to make them terrorists? I'm all ears if they can reconcile those two same positions.

[drobeski 3,061]

Trump supporters have killed more Muslims this week, than Americans killed by refugees from the banned countries in the last 30 years. Ooops.

that'll teach them

[mobb_deep 920]

It's really an amazing stance that none of them have addressed.

 

They claim that these people are harmless yet a 90-day ban is going to make them terrorists? I'm all ears if they can reconcile those two same positions.

 

Riddle me this. Does Jesus really exist, or is it just your father dressed up?

[crackattack 520]

It's really an amazing stance that none of them have addressed.

 

They claim that these people are harmless yet a 90-day ban is going to make them terrorists? I'm all ears if they can reconcile those two same positions.

Agree. I'd add the idea that the US should change our policies to appease foreign, non-American, non-citizen individuals. We should make policy around religious zealots so they won't get angry and blow us up. Seems backwards. Almost like the foreign individuals don't need to adapt to western life, but we should adapt yo theirs. Neville Chamberlain was big on appeasement.

[Reality 3,121]

It's really an amazing stance that none of them have addressed.

 

They claim that these people are harmless yet a 90-day ban is going to make them terrorists? I'm all ears if they can reconcile those two same positions.

 

Agree. I'd add the idea that the US should change our policies to appease foreign, non-American, non-citizen individuals. We should make policy around religious zealots so they won't get angry and blow us up. Seems backwards. Almost like the foreign individuals don't need to adapt to western life, but we should adapt yo theirs. Neville Chamberlain was big on appeasement.

 

Just a FYI, you guys are arguing with fkn idiots.

 

HTH

[MDC 7,889]

It's really an amazing stance that none of them have addressed.

 

They claim that these people are harmless yet a 90-day ban is going to make them terrorists? I'm all ears if they can reconcile those two same positions.

I dint think we are going to ban people who are then going to become terrorists. I think Isis is going to use the ban to further its main propaganda, which is that Islam is engaged in a war with the Western world, and that had the potential to create more terrorists / sympathizer a and make us less safe without much upside benefit. It's not about appeasing Isis, it's about not playing their game.

[drobeski 3,061]

Did you guys see where savage Muslims tore apart a woman in Afghanistan the other day for possibly burning a Koran? Ripped her to pieces.

That had nothing to do with Islam thankfully.

Yes we need more people like that here asap.

[mobb_deep 920]

Agree. I'd add the idea that the US should change our policies to appease foreign, non-American, non-citizen individuals. We should make policy around religious zealots so they won't get angry and blow us up. Seems backwards. Almost like the foreign individuals don't need to adapt to western life, but we should adapt yo theirs. Neville Chamberlain was big on appeasement.

 

LEV 19 ‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

[mobb_deep 920]

 

 

Just a FYI, you guys are arguing with fkn idiots.

 

HTH

 

Hate just breeds more hate. HTH.

[iam90sbaby 2,727]

Did you guys see where savage Muslims tore apart a woman in Afghanistan the other day for possibly burning a Koran? Ripped her to pieces.

That had nothing to do with Islam thankfully.

Yes we need more people like that here asap.

 

 

Lets just turn it into a radioactive wasteland. Do the world a favor.

[Strike 6,023]

 

LEV 19 ‘When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

 

Thank God we don't live in a country that uses religion to determine it's political policies!

[mobb_deep 920]

 

Thank God we don't live in a country that uses religion to determine it's political policies!

 

LOL!!!! Post of the year. Good one man.

[Sho Nuff 720]

It's really an amazing stance that none of them have addressed.

 

They claim that these people are harmless yet a 90-day ban is going to make them terrorists? I'm all ears if they can reconcile those two same positions.

Who has claimed all muslims are harmless or that a 90 day ban is going to make those having to wait terrorists. You are twisting what people have actually said once again.

[drobeski 3,061]

Who has claimed all muslims are harmless or that a 90 day ban is going to make those having to wait terrorists. You are twisting what people have actually said once again.

on the second part, newbie

 

Hth

[crackattack 520]

I dint think we are going to ban people who are then going to become terrorists. I think Isis is going to use the ban to further its main propaganda, which is that Islam is engaged in a war with the Western world, and that had the potential to create more terrorists / sympathizer a and make us less safe without much upside benefit. It's not about appeasing Isis, it's about not playing their game.

If a temporary ban is what triggers someone to blow people up, if that's the line that decides to murder civilians, then there is no way that individual will assimilate to western life. I don't want those easily triggered individuals here then.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

 

Just a FYI, you guys are arguing with fkn idiots.

 

HTH

Psst...they are the idiots arguing points people haven't actually made.

[Sho Nuff 720]

 

 

Lets just turn it into a radioactive wasteland. Do the world a favor.

And this is another post of yours proving you are a jackass.

Yes...nuclear holocaust and mass death is awesome.

[Sho Nuff 720]

on the second part, newbie

 

Hth

Nope...you're still incorrect and spinning actual words.

[MDC 7,889]

If a temporary ban is what triggers someone to blow people up, if that's the line that decides to murder civilians, then there is no way that individual will assimilate to western life. I don't want those easily triggered individuals here then.

Those individuals being considered for refugee status or visas / green cards aren't who I think are going to be triggered. I'm more worried about the ban being one of many factors that contributes to pushing foreign Muslims who might otherwise be neutral away from the US.

 

Since there is almost no instance of refugee terror attacks on Americans it seems like we get very little benefit out of this policy while assuming some unnecessary risk. If I thought potential terrorists were getting through in droves I would probably feel differently.

 

Mostly I find this whole thing to be a grandstanding stunt by an unserious, clownish president.

[Sho Nuff 720]

If a temporary ban is what triggers someone to blow people up, if that's the line that decides to murder civilians, then there is no way that individual will assimilate to western life. I don't want those easily triggered individuals here then.

Some already are...just like such things trigger crazy other people to commit crimes. What triggered the Canadian shooter...columbine...Dylan Roof...and so on

[crackattack 520]

 

LEV 19 When a foreigner resides among you in your land, do not mistreat them. The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the Lord your God.

I'm not religious, and I have zero issue with legal immigrants, and honestly non-legal "law abiding" assimilated illegal ones. I have issue with Americans needing to appease foreigners by making policy to fit their liking. It's not our job to make non-Americans happy. Its their job fit into our laws and way of life.

 

It's really simple. If foreign immigrants don't want to assimilate and follow our laws, then pick a different country to immigrate to. Easy and simple as that.

[drobeski 3,061]

Nope...you're still incorrect and spinning actual words.

nope...you're still incorrect and spinning actual words.

[Strike 6,023]

nope...you're still incorrect and spinning actual words.

 

Fock. More Plagiarism!!!

[wiffleball 4,797]

It's really an amazing stance that none of them have addressed.

 

They claim that these people are harmless yet a 90-day ban is going to make them terrorists? I'm all ears if they can reconcile those two same positions.

Jesus, you can't be this simple can you? This is the same kind of spurious logic Then you hear from right-wing radio all the time, which makes sense that your point of you as well. Yeah I'm pretty sure the five year old that we detained in the airport is pretty much harmless right now. But as far as recruiting goes? The story of the five-year-old, the story of the grandmother, the story of the mother who died Etcetera make for fantastic recruiting stories. It's not that difficult.

[wiffleball 4,797]

The other aspect that has been discussed the Nexus 4 Less safe, and you seen this from CIA directors FBI directors State Department Homeland Security border patrol etcetera Including the military, Is that what motivation do guys in foreign lands now have to give us until? Just service translators? Or spotters? We used to have one hell of a carrot which was being able to take them and their families to the United States. Now that we f***** over that interpreter, that will be the story that makes the rounds. So yeah, that's a very solid interpretation of how we end up being less safe. Unless you think you know more than the experts whom I've already posted here in who wants course she will ignore because it doesn't fit your simple-minded narrative.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,911]

Jesus, you can't be this simple can you? This is the same kind of spurious logic Then you hear from right-wing radio all the time, which makes sense that your point of you as well. Yeah I'm pretty sure the five year old that we detained in the airport is pretty much harmless right now. But as far as recruiting goes? The story of the five-year-old, the story of the grandmother, the story of the mother who died Etcetera make for fantastic recruiting stories. It's not that difficult.

I would hope we detained a 5 year old at an airport. If I saw a 5 year old at an airport I would Definetly let someone know.

[crackattack 520]

Those individuals being considered for refugee status or visas / green cards aren't who I think are going to be triggered. I'm more worried about the ban being one of many factors that contributes to pushing foreign Muslims who might otherwise be neutral away from the US.

 

Since there is almost no instance of refugee terror attacks on Americans it seems like we get very little benefit out of this policy while assuming some unnecessary risk. If I thought potential terrorists were getting through in droves I would probably feel differently.

 

Mostly I find this whole thing to be a grandstanding stunt by an unserious, clownish president.

It's a campaign promise he's following through on. Is it possible it might recruit more terrorists, yes. Women being able to drive might cause an increase in recruiting terrorists. I do not care what might piss these people off. They're nuts. Enough tip toeing around the crazies.

[wiffleball 4,797]

Psst...they are the idiots arguing points people haven't actually made.

Exactly, it's part of a fairly commonplace spurious logic bomb That these guys Swallow Hook Line & Sinker From their propaganda sources. It starts off the completely Moronic assumption like They say that rabbits might becomes terrorists so what's wrong with killing rabbits? It's obvious the Liberals Care for the lives of rabbits more than American human beings!

[drobeski 3,061]

Exactly, it's part of a fairly commonplace spurious logic bomb That these guys Swallow Hook Line & Sinker From their propaganda sources. It starts off the completely Moronic assumption like They say that rabbits might becomes terrorists so what's wrong with killing rabbits? It's obvious the Liberals Care for the lives of rabbits more than American human beings!

kind of reminds me how you claimed the Supreme Court nominee reveal would be a reality show...just like CNN was saying. Those fockers plagiarized you bro!

[MDC 7,889]

It's a campaign promise he's following through on. Is it possible it might recruit more terrorists, yes. Women being able to drive might cause an increase in recruiting terrorists. I do not care what might piss these people off. They're nuts. Enough tip toeing around the crazies.

I'm a pragmatist: If we get almost nothing out of this ban in terms of improved safety and it's likely to make us less safe and feed into our enemy's propaganda, why do it?

[Sho Nuff 720]

nope...you're still incorrect and spinning actual words.

 

Back up your claim then...show me newbie's words that are just as what was claimed.

But we know you won't.

You may link to a post of his...but I know damn well it won't be what was claimed.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Jesus, you can't be this simple can you? This is the same kind of spurious logic Then you hear from right-wing radio all the time, which makes sense that your point of you as well. Yeah I'm pretty sure the five year old that we detained in the airport is pretty much harmless right now. But as far as recruiting goes? The story of the five-year-old, the story of the grandmother, the story of the mother who died Etcetera make for fantastic recruiting stories. It's not that difficult.

Trump says it is ok...everything else...including Counter Terrorism experts is all just fake news. They have been programmed well.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I'm a pragmatist: If we get almost nothing out of this ban in terms of improved safety and it's likely to make us less safe and feed into our enemy's propaganda, why do it?

 

Because Trump said he would...duh.

[crackattack 520]

I'm a pragmatist: If we get almost nothing out of this ban in terms of improved safety and it's likely to make us less safe and feed into our enemy's propaganda, why do it?

I don't disagree to a point. What if it catches just two terrorists? Two that could've killed 100. Was it worth it?

[MDC 7,889]

I don't disagree to a point. What if it catches just two terrorists? Two that could've killed 100. Was it worth it?

If we knew definitively that banning refugees would save 100 people then sure. Since we've had roughly zero instances of refugees committing acts of terror in the US I'm guessing our own national security experts would tell you te policy does more harm than good. That's leaving aside the fact that high-risk places like Saidi Arabia and Pakistan are on the list.

[drobeski 3,061]

Islam radicals are already pissed off. That's correct. But denying Talal's brother or sister from joining him in Sacramento is liable to turn him into another US-hating radical. Trump took the bait. ISIS wants to pit the entire Muslim religion against the West. He's not making the radicals any angrier, but he's creating thousand and thousands of new radicals.

bump , I'm right again.

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