edjr 5,569 Posted August 7, 2017 Cercei / Banker - great scene, both were fantastic at their parts. One thing isn't clear to me though: DID THE MONEY GET TO KINGS LANDING?? Or will the debt now go unpaid after Jamie was attacked? By the way they were setting it up and talking about it early in the episode. As soon as she guaranteed it. You knew it wasn't going to get there. Was one of the more predictable things in the series Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 314 Posted August 7, 2017 thanks posty. those fire scenes had a similar effect on me as some of the scenes from the "Private Ryan" beach scene (guy picking up his blown off arm, etc) - it was jawdropping, unnerving, and terrifying. I was wide-eyed and thinking/saying "holy sh!t" when that was all unfolding... as a viewer, I had touble processing it and keeping my head straight - for that reason, it was amazing to me to see Bronn and Jamie both thinking/acting so bravely/clearly, maybe even suicidally... there were so many quick-clips detailing the horror and awe of it all... the Dothraki cutting the legs of Bronn's horse... the Dothraki bowmen, standing shooting, the horses crashing into the spears (a la Braveheart). And driving it all was that we finally got to see the dragon in action (why just one I wondered?) - after 7 seasons of talk... we saw dragons used in full on war... not just burning some ships in a bay... but combat against armies. You go back to Tolkein and other mythologies and they all talks about the terror a dragon brings just by flying overhead... more than anything ever shown, this scene made you understand that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,569 Posted August 7, 2017 thanks posty. You didn't think, as soon as they mentioned the money wasn't there yet and Cersei guaranteed it's arrival, something wasn't going to happen to it? Who knows. Maybe it did get there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 314 Posted August 7, 2017 You didn't think, as soon as Cersei guaranteed the money that something was going to happen to it? Who knows. Maybe it did get there? it wasn't clear to me... I'd think there's more than one wagon of gold? and it also isn't clear to me what the consequence of not paying is - besides not getting another loan? Doe Bravos have any way to enforce it's terms with Lannisters besides not giving them more? Maybe they financially back the other side? Ed - I think a lot is telegraphed at this point in the show. More than ever we all know/expect what is going to happen - and that may make plot twists easier to pull off down the road. Or maybe that's just the result of GRRM being left behind? Don't know. IMO, here's where we are at: the show is finally giving the viewers some satisfaction - we're seeing thing and getting "wins" more than ever - but it's come at an expense really... if anyone who never watched this show tuned in now, they'd think it was dumb - and they'd be right (Arya pulling off her face? Arya the super-kid sword fighter? Dany "neverending story" dragon rider? but longtime viewers can easily get by all this - we've waited long enough for some "wins" and "satisfaction" - it's alll coming in abundance now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,569 Posted August 7, 2017 I for sure thought Cersei/Jaime would "win" the Game and then be destroyed by white walkers in the last minute of the last episode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 314 Posted August 7, 2017 I for sure thought Cersei/Jaime would "win" the Game and then be destroyed by white walkers in the last minute of the last episode to me, that'd be better in many ways What can they really do with the White Walkers besides one, big battle? What's the end game here? Everyone comes together in Westeros, kumbaya-style, and then they fight the evil bad guys? That's pretty weak. So I don't think this will all fizzle out like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,569 Posted August 7, 2017 to me, that'd be better in many ways What can they really do with the White Walkers besides one, big battle? What's the end game here? Everyone comes together in Westeros, kumbaya-style, and then they fight the evil bad guys? That's pretty weak. So I don't think this will all fizzle out like that. There is a reason we have only seen them like what? 3, 4 times? very 1st scene of the very 1st episode was White Walkers. What else can they do with them, but have them kill everyone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 7, 2017 Holy sh!t was that bad ass! Dragons and dothraki! Hell yeah! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 314 Posted August 7, 2017 There is a reason we have only seen them like what? 3, 4 times? very 1st scene of the very 1st episode was White Walkers. What else can they do with them, but have them kill everyone? Hardhome. but they talked about how the Children of the Forest created them and the whole White Walker backstory... so clearly there's more to it... but whatever it is, it ain't simple and there isn't a whole lotta' time left to get into it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 646 Posted August 7, 2017 I thought right before the fight, Sam's dad said all of the gold was safely inside Kings Landing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 314 Posted August 7, 2017 I thought right before the fight, Sam's dad said all of the gold was safely inside Kings Landing? me too... there was some reference to gold making to to Kings Landing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,569 Posted August 7, 2017 I thought right before the fight, Sam's dad said all of the gold was safely inside Kings Landing? "All the gold is safely through the gates at kings landing" Just re-watched it. How odd for me to be wrong. Classic when the kid says "dickon" and Bronn laughs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted August 7, 2017 That was some deep freaking water for 6 feet off shore Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,569 Posted August 7, 2017 That was some deep freaking water for 6 feet off shore Looked like a brook to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted August 7, 2017 Classic when the kid says "dickon" and Bronn laughs Yeah this was a great response... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,384 Posted August 7, 2017 I enjoyed this episode way more than EP.3 Some sexual tension between Jon and Dargon Lady. Neither of these two are very good actors so their scenes are always blah. The Stark kids stuff was pretty good other than Bran. He's like the weird kid you're skeered will shoot up the school. Hey Bran Arrya is back. Cool check out this knife. The battle was pretty sweet. The show needs more Bron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,384 Posted August 7, 2017 Also how long was this episode? I watched it on My DVR and had like 5 minutes of previews for some other show. And then another 5-10 minutes after. I just looked it up Running time 47 minutes 47 focking minutes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted August 7, 2017 Also how long was this episode? I watched it on My DVR and had like 5 minutes of previews for some other show. And then another 5-10 minutes after. I just looked it up Running time 47 minutes 47 focking minutes... Yeah, it was the shortest episode that they were doing... The last three episodes running times for season 7 are: Episode 5: 59 minutes Episode 6: 71 minutes Episode 7: 81 minutes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,317 Posted August 8, 2017 Cercei / Banker - great scene, both were fantastic at their parts. One thing isn't clear to me though: DID THE MONEY GET TO KINGS LANDING?? Or will the debt now go unpaid after Jamie was attacked? I thought the implication was quite clear that the gold wasn't making it now. IIRC wasn't the Kingslayer talking about getting the gold on its way right before the attack? On edit: I see from above that I was wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,317 Posted August 8, 2017 That was some deep freaking water for 6 feet off shore Yes. I did not want to nitpick the episode but this bothered me. He's riding a horse right along the shoreline and then suddenly he's going down 50 feet in water? Whoever knocked him on the horse must have flung him really far! The other issue I had was how quickly the Dothraki and Tyrion Lannister get to Highgarden. Danni, sure, since she has the dragon. But that was awful focking quick to move an entire army. But these are minor quibbles for an otherwise satisfying episode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted August 8, 2017 Need to have the fire chick squeeze another demon out of her twat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,483 Posted August 8, 2017 Cersie told the Iron Banker that Jamie was personally escorting the gold to to castle. I don't think the gold made it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,691 Posted August 8, 2017 Bron was the shining star of this episode even though he tried to take out the dragon! His line were so funny. There is no sexual chemistry, imo, between Jon and Daenerys. Also, do you think Sansa is feeling insecure that her siblings are more talented than she is....and also that Petyr Baelish notices that they are a threat to him and her? I'm wondering if he'll hint that they're a threat? Jamie should've died that episode, in keeping with the tradition that characters aren't spared because you want them to live. I recall hearing that the gold made it through the gates of King's Landing, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 8, 2017 Each episode is damn good of late. But hbo is doing what they often do. Rushing the ending. Ruining the pacing they had established. Rome really comes to mind. Great show with a crap cobbled together ending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,569 Posted August 8, 2017 Is Sansa ever going to have some little finger in her? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,317 Posted August 8, 2017 Each episode is damn good of late. But hbo is doing what they often do. Rushing the ending. Ruining the pacing they had established. Rome really comes to mind. Great show with a crap cobbled together ending. I don't even remember the ending of Rome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cbfalcon 824 Posted August 8, 2017 But hbo is doing what they often do. Rushing the ending. Ruining the pacing they had established. I'm good with it so far. Character development is critical for investing the audience, but the players are developed and we are fully invested. I don't need any more 10 minute convos demonstrating that Sir Davos is honorable and trustworthy or any 8 minute scenes to further develop the fact that while Tyrion believes in Daenerys, he loves Jamie enough to not want to see him burnt to a crisp. I obviously reserve the right to change my mind. And I will note one very rushed plot point. Jon Snow's chalk drawings in a cave were a bit too convenient. It probably should have been more of a process to get Daenerys to slowly believe that he may not be crazy and the White Walkers could be real. In past seasons, that process may have taken 5-6 episodes. But due to my craving for action, I forgive it thus far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,564 Posted August 8, 2017 Is Sansa ever going to have some little finger in her? The storyline through the end of season seven is already out there through plot leaks. Do you really want to know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,569 Posted August 8, 2017 The storyline through the end of season seven is already out there through plot leaks. Do you really want to know? I can wait. Thank you for checking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,514 Posted August 8, 2017 There is no sexual chemistry, imo, between Jon and Daenerys. aren't they brother-sister? they may have that luke/leia thing going on. Also, do you think Sansa is feeling insecure that her siblings are more talented than she is.... yes.... already feeling like she is taking a back seat in tactics- planning the battle with ramsay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted August 8, 2017 Wow that is impressive mixing and editing. Really well done, he had to find all those words being spoken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted August 8, 2017 Behind the scenes... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 8, 2017 Freaking awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Blue 06 195 Posted August 8, 2017 That is the best thing you've ever posted (I know, the bar has been set low, but impressive nonetheless). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted August 8, 2017 Cercei / Banker - great scene, both were fantastic at their parts. One thing isn't clear to me though: DID THE MONEY GET TO KINGS LANDING?? Or will the debt now go unpaid after Jamie was attacked? Yes it got there. Before the big battle, it is said "All the gold is safely through the gates at King's Landing." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted August 8, 2017 I thought right before the fight, Sam's dad said all of the gold was safely inside Kings Landing? This is correct... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted August 8, 2017 This is correct... Tarley said that yes. But it wouldn't be the first time a character lied... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TD Ryan2 314 Posted August 8, 2017 This is correct... agreed. What makes it confusing though is this: Jamie goes into the back of a wagon filled with riches to get Bronns gold - Jamie then tells Bronn, it's not his gold, a clear reference to the debt it will pay. Later we see that wagon and horses burning and rolling runaway style. I agree - Tarley said what he said... but maybe not all of it got there? There is some confusion to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
