What if it's found that Trump did help the Russians

[NewbieJr 541]

They are a new kind of stupid. They are not logical. They make no sense whatsoever. But they are going to have the media on their side, and that's the danger

You're retarded enough to be given actual emails of Trump Jr colluding with the Russians, and STILL denying there was any wrong doing, and you have the balls to call someone else stupid? Bwahahahahaha

 

#silverretard

[NewbieJr 541]

Funny you should bring that up. While gagging down that awful movie last night, I got curious;

There were SEVEN different Benghazi hearings and an almost equal number of hearings/investigations about emails.

They took months and years - and years - cost MILLIONS - and resulted in nothing. ('burger' - I guess if you're 5)

Yet, even MORE was promised if HRC won. Hell, they were bragging about it.

 

But now, the same folks who couldn't get enough of years and years and over a dozen different hearings and investigations are

already at (see this thread) "It's been MONTHS now and NOTHING! Why don't you drop it!" "It's a nothing burger!"

(seriously, who over the age of 12 uses that term? FOX)

 

Just interesting to see this play out.

This whole Presidency has been hilarious. Eight years of these ass holes bashing Obama, and now they're crying because people are being mean to Trump. Trump spending years on his fake news about Obama's birth certificate, and now complaining about fake news. You can't make this stuff up.

[wiffleball 4,788]

The best is Washington Post and NYT that have been getting bashed by Trump so much (only behind CNN).

His little nicknames for them and they just keep putting out pieces that expose his bullshit.

I'll top you on that;

 

How many times did Trump attack the 'failing' NYT as 'Fake News'?

Guess whom he cited inone of his first post-election (2020) campaign/propaganda commercials?

'It's fake - unless I like it!' LOL

[lickin_starfish 1,897]

There is no proof that Trump colluded with the Russian government. These emails show that Trump's son tried to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian citizen. Not a crime.

 

What IS a crime however, is destroying subpoenaed evidence. Hillary should be sitting in a prison cell.

[wiffleball 4,788]

Trump spending god knows how much creating fake news magazine covers with him on the cover and now complaining about fake news. You can't make this stuff up.

[drobeski 3,061]

Get a room team tds sufferers, preferably in a mental institution. We all know how bat sh!t crazy and violent you liberal wack jobs can get.

[NewbieJr 541]

There is no proof that Trump colluded with the Russian government. These emails show that Trump's son tried to get dirt on Hillary from a Russian citizen. Not a crime.

 

What IS a crime however, is destroying subpoenaed evidence. Hillary should be sitting in a prison cell.

 

Damn you Trumptards are hilarious.

[lickin_starfish 1,897]

 

Damn you Trumptards are hilarious.

You know I'm right, so you've got nothing but juvenile name calling.

[Mr. Hand 482]

You know I'm right, so you've got nothing but juvenile name calling.

That is all he knows how to do...just like sho nuff.

[NewbieJr 541]

You know I'm right, so you've got nothing but juvenile name calling.

All this evidence coming out and you turn to old faithful...."but, but...Hillary" You're focking pathetic.

[wiffleball 4,788]

What IS a crime however, is destroying subpoenaed evidence. Hillary should be sitting in a prison cell.

I'd heard a lot from both sides on this, but nothing beyond BS talking points.

I read a lot of articles, this one seems pretty exhaustive.

At least the FBI - who are the top cops in the land - deemed it not illegal.

(and about a dozen different and sundry Congressional inquiries)

 

Basically, the rules around this stuff are/were pretty loose. To sum and dumb:

You have to keep relevant emails, but NOT non-work-related emails.

And the respective agencies/employees get to determine what is and is not work-related.

(they apparently have a signed contract/work order to delete emails hitting certain criteria well before the subpoena. Work Order:

Dec 2014. Emails nuked by 3rd party March 2015.)

- So, it's all pretty much self-policing, but seems to defeat the purpose.

 

Having said that, I've gone through my own work stuff and probably better than 60%

is worthless - "Birthday cake in.." type of stuff.

 

Seems to me, it's shady, but not illegal. Which is what FBI arrived at too.

Still, I know our corporate policies are a crapload more stringent.

Seems government should abide by at least that level.

 

But as for Tump saying stupid shiit like she used 'bleach and chemicals to 'acid wash' her drive'?

No, you forking lunkhead, Bleachbit is part of the name of the deletion software.

 

I'm not going to re-litigate the subject, just thought I'd share my efforts at personal edification.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/spinning-the-fbi-letter/

 

However, Trump can't have it both ways - He can't keep relying upon "It's not a Crime!" "Comey said THREE TIMES that I wasn't..." and THEN say

'Well, just because Comey and the FBI says there was no crime..."

[Mike Honcho 5,148]

Funny you should bring that up. While gagging down that awful movie last night, I got curious;

There were SEVEN different Benghazi hearings and an almost equal number of hearings/investigations about emails.

They took months and years - and years - cost MILLIONS - and resulted in nothing. ('burger' - I guess if you're 5)

Yet, even MORE was promised if HRC won. Hell, they were bragging about it.

 

But now, the same folks who couldn't get enough of years and years and over a dozen different hearings and investigations are

already at (see this thread) "It's been MONTHS now and NOTHING! Why don't you drop it!" "It's a nothing burger!"

(seriously, who over the age of 12 uses that term? FOX)

 

Just interesting to see this play out.

 

Aren't those just Soy Burgers?

[wiffleball 4,788]

 

Aren't those just Soy Burgers?

[12th Man 884]

Newbie, Sho and Wiff are having a lemon party today.. keep hope alive, keep hope alive!

[lickin_starfish 1,897]

I'd heard a lot from both sides on this, but nothing beyond BS talking points.

I read a lot of articles, this one seems pretty exhaustive.

At least the FBI - who are the top cops in the land - deemed it not illegal.

(and about a dozen different and sundry Congressional inquiries)

 

Basically, the rules around this stuff are/were pretty loose. To sum and dumb:

You have to keep relevant emails, but NOT non-work-related emails.

And the respective agencies/employees get to determine what is and is not work-related.

(they apparently have a signed contract/work order to delete emails hitting certain criteria well before the subpoena. Work Order:

Dec 2014. Emails nuked by 3rd party March 2015.)

- So, it's all pretty much self-policing, but seems to defeat the purpose.

 

Having said that, I've gone through my own work stuff and probably better than 60%

is worthless - "Birthday cake in.." type of stuff.

 

Seems to me, it's shady, but not illegal. Which is what FBI arrived at too.

Still, I know our corporate policies are a crapload more stringent.

Seems government should abide by at least that level.

 

But as for Tump saying stupid shiit like she used 'bleach and chemicals to 'acid wash' her drive'?

No, you forking lunkhead, Bleachbit is part of the name of the deletion software.

 

I'm not going to re-litigate the subject, just thought I'd share my efforts at personal edification.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/spinning-the-fbi-letter/

 

However, Trump can't have it both ways - He can't keep relying upon "It's not a Crime!" "Comey said THREE TIMES that I wasn't..." and THEN say

'Well, just because Comey and the FBI says there was no crime..."

That was a nice response. Thank you.

[NewbieJr 541]

 

 

"What do you get when you cross a Russian, and email, and an idiot?"

[Sho Nuff 720]

Get a room team tds sufferers, preferably in a mental institution. We all know how bat sh!t crazy and violent you liberal wack jobs can get.

Says the guy who posted fake news (again) and got that smacked around.

[wiffleball 4,788]

That was a nice response. Thank you.

[wiffleball 4,788]

I forgot one part:

 

When Congress asked Hillary about 'wiping her drive' and she responded:

"What? Like with a cloth?"

 

I SO wanted to punch her in her Lady-Diick.

 

Cocky, Smarmy, Deceptive C unit.

[Sho Nuff 720]

What about Hillary is always a great defense.

 

So now we have Flynn fired for lying after discussing sanctions with a Russian official.

 

Sessions recused from the investigation.

 

Flynn and others filing as foreign agents retroactively after being caught.

 

Campaign officials meeting with Russians and lying about it(coinciding with Trump campaign pushing changes to GOP platform in Ukraine)

 

Trump Jr, Kushner, and Manafort meeting with a Russian lawyer to try and obtain information on Hillary (and thus begins Trumps tweeting on emails). Lying about it ever happening and lying about the subject until they were busted.

 

Oh and Kushner trying to set up a secret back channel communications with Russia.

 

It's all normal though to Trump fans...who also think Obama was somehow corrupt and this stuff is acceptable.

[drobeski 3,061]

Says the guy who posted fake news (again) and got that smacked around.

fake what ? Stop making stuff up bozo..there wasn't a single thing fake about the cth article, there never is. They arent cnn, they don't just run with anything. They factually lay out everything. The best in real journalism.

[NewbieJr 541]

What about Hillary is always a great defense.

 

So now we have Flynn fired for lying after discussing sanctions with a Russian official.

 

Sessions recused from the investigation.

 

Flynn and others filing as foreign agents retroactively after being caught.

 

Campaign officials meeting with Russians and lying about it(coinciding with Trump campaign pushing changes to GOP platform in Ukraine)

 

Trump Jr, Kushner, and Manafort meeting with a Russian lawyer to try and obtain information on Hillary (and thus begins Trumps tweeting on emails). Lying about it ever happening and lying about the subject until they were busted.

 

Oh and Kushner trying to set up a secret back channel communications with Russia.

 

It's all normal though to Trump fans...who also think Obama was somehow corrupt and this stuff is acceptable.

All that and Trump still calls it a witch hunt.

[Sho Nuff 720]

fake what ? Stop making stuff up bozo..there wasn't a single thing fake about the cth article, there never is. They arent cnn, they don't just run with anything. They factually lay out everything. The best in real journalism.

Except when they claimed the lawyer was with the dem representative?

Yet she was behind the representative in an open meeting and was apparently invited there by a republican?

 

Your article has been destroyed in the links I provided here.

 

Real journalism?

[Mike Honcho 5,148]

I'd heard a lot from both sides on this, but nothing beyond BS talking points.

I read a lot of articles, this one seems pretty exhaustive.

At least the FBI - who are the top cops in the land - deemed it not illegal.

(and about a dozen different and sundry Congressional inquiries)

 

Basically, the rules around this stuff are/were pretty loose. To sum and dumb:

You have to keep relevant emails, but NOT non-work-related emails.

And the respective agencies/employees get to determine what is and is not work-related.

(they apparently have a signed contract/work order to delete emails hitting certain criteria well before the subpoena. Work Order:

Dec 2014. Emails nuked by 3rd party March 2015.)

- So, it's all pretty much self-policing, but seems to defeat the purpose.

 

Having said that, I've gone through my own work stuff and probably better than 60%

is worthless - "Birthday cake in.." type of stuff.

 

Seems to me, it's shady, but not illegal. Which is what FBI arrived at too.

Still, I know our corporate policies are a crapload more stringent.

Seems government should abide by at least that level.

 

But as for Tump saying stupid shiit like she used 'bleach and chemicals to 'acid wash' her drive'?

No, you forking lunkhead, Bleachbit is part of the name of the deletion software.

 

I'm not going to re-litigate the subject, just thought I'd share my efforts at personal edification.

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/spinning-the-fbi-letter/

 

However, Trump can't have it both ways - He can't keep relying upon "It's not a Crime!" "Comey said THREE TIMES that I wasn't..." and THEN say

'Well, just because Comey and the FBI says there was no crime..."

 

Wow...that must be the first time that's been explained on this site. Good job, now I'm sure we will all move past the deleted email posts.

[drobeski 3,061]

Another thing, a communist country wants a Republican President ??? good one.

 

Russia already knew hillary would sell this country out, they've already bought her over and over.

 

Tell me, how many 500k speaking engagements have the clintons been doing since the election ?

 

The answer is 0, why would that be ?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Another thing, a communist country wants a Republican President ??? good one.

 

Russia already knew hillary would sell this country out, they've already bought her over and over.

 

Tell me, how many 500k speaking engagements have the clintons been doing since the election ?

 

The answer is 0, why would that be ?

Tell me the relevance to what Hillary has done as far as the wrongdoing of Trump and his family and campaign?

 

The intelligence report stated Russia had a preference...yiu don't believe it.

The emails to Don Jr state a Russian preference to help Trump...you don't believe it.

 

It's hilarious how much you will deny.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,013]

 

America was last great throughout the Obama Administration? Oil hit $70 a barrel in late 2009 and stayed their or higher until the end of 2014. No?

Inside comment. Run along.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,013]

Newbie, Sho and Wiff are having a lemon party today.. keep hope alive, keep hope alive!

Lol. So true.

[wiffleball 4,788]

I think Drobes hit something - whether he knows it or not (kind of):

 

THAT's the big question. How BAD is it that the Russians (clearly) wanted Trump to be PoTUS over Hillary?

 

I mean, I don't care what side you're on. In this case, let's assume the WORST about Hillary (like Drobes did above).

 

... And STILL the Russians clearly favored Trump?

 

I mean, they're on record insulting Trump's guys, bragging how easy it is to play them,..

Trump is incredibly easily played - just compliment him and he'll give you state secrets.

Hell, he barred the US press from the Oval - but then INVITED IN A RUSSIAN photographer!

 

That's really the key - Forget all the negative shiit said by every other country, folks here in America -

 

How BAD / Incompetent / "manipulatable' do you have to be that the Russians are actively trying to put you charge of their greatest world enemy?

 

That's the question to ask. That's the question that should scare everybody.

 

The rest is just details.

[Sho Nuff 720]

I think Drobes hit something - whether he knows it or not (kind of):

 

THAT's the big question. How BAD is it that the Russians (clearly) wanted Trump to be PoTUS over Hillary?

 

I mean, I don't care what side you're on. In this case, let's assume the WORST about Hillary (like Drobes did above).

 

... And STILL the Russians clearly favored Trump?

 

I mean, they're on record insulting Trump's guys, bragging how easy it is to play them,..

Trump is incredibly easily played - just compliment him and he'll give you state secrets.

Hell, he barred the US press from the Oval - but then INVITED IN A RUSSIAN photographer!

 

That's really the key - Forget all the negative shiit said by every other country, folks here in America -

 

How BAD / Incompetent / "manipulatable' do you have to be that the Russians are actively trying to put you charge of their greatest world enemy?

 

That's the question to ask. That's the question that should scare everybody.

 

The rest is just details.

Because they own his ass.

 

His financial deals are propped up in Russian money.

[drobeski 3,061]

I think Drobes hit something - whether he knows it or not (kind of):

 

THAT's the big question. How BAD is it that the Russians (clearly) wanted Trump to be PoTUS over Hillary?

 

I mean, I don't care what side you're on. In this case, let's assume the WORST about Hillary (like Drobes did above).

 

... And STILL the Russians clearly favored Trump?

 

I mean, they're on record insulting Trump's guys, bragging how easy it is to play them,..

Trump is incredibly easily played - just compliment him and he'll give you state secrets.

Hell, he barred the US press from the Oval - but then INVITED IN A RUSSIAN photographer!

 

That's really the key - Forget all the negative shiit said by every other country, folks here in America -

 

How BAD / Incompetent / "manipulatable' do you have to be that the Russians are actively trying to put you charge of their greatest world enemy?

 

That's the question to ask. That's the question that should scare everybody.

 

The rest is just details.

since when is russia our greatest enemy ? Since hillary lost ? The reset didnt work ? The 80s didn't call ?

 

Flippity floppity boo!

[wiffleball 4,788]

Because they own his ass.

 

His financial deals are propped up in Russian money.

Yeah, but...

 

Besides the obvious answers like: "Because what enemy WOULDN'T want a bunch of Incompetent Rubes running their opponent's country? (into the ground)"

 

More than anything, the key is the Magnitzki Act. Google it.

Putin HATES this more than anything else the Americans have done.

He desperately wants it overturned.

 

So who to you go to? An easily manipulated guy who feels that EVERYTHING is a negotiation.

- But see, the thing is? Basic human rights? Shouldn't be negotiable. What Magnitzki and dozens/hundreds went through? Shouldn't happen again.

- Yet, watching Trump's behavior thus far, hell HE'd hate to be bound by that act too. He's as much as said so.

 

If HRC was elected, there was already efforts to expand the act & related sanctions.

If Trump had his way, the 2nd Amendment would be repealed and Libel would be a Federal Crime. That's not speculation. He's as much as said so.

 

So, you're Putin - Who do you want?

 

If there's any one thing, that's it. And anyone and everyone who wants to opine on what's going on needs to at least expend the effort to learn about it.

 

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20626960

[12th Man 884]

Tweet of the day:

 

Red Pill @IWillRedPillYou

The media is lying about both Natalia Veselnitskaya & Emin Agalarov
Both are tied directly to Deep State & Obama
This is all a set up

12:40 AM - 12 Jul 2017

 

[Baker Boy 1,691]

Democrats intentionally used disinformation from Russia to attack Trump, campaign aides

 

While the mainstream news media hunts for evidence of Trump-Russia collusion, the public record shows that Democrats have willfully used Moscow disinformation to influence the presidential election against Donald Trump and attack his administration.

 

The disinformation came in the form of a Russian-fed dossier written by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele. It contains a series of unverified criminal charges against Mr. Trumps campaign aides, such as coordinating Moscows hacking of Democratic Party computers.

 

The same Democrats who have condemned Russias election interference via plying fake news and hacking email servers have quoted freely from the Steele anti-Trump memos derived from creatures of the Kremlin.

 

In other words, there is public evidence of significant, indirect collusion between Democrats and Russian disinformation

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/11/democrats-spread-false-russian-information-on-trum/

[Sho Nuff 720]

Democrats intentionally used disinformation from Russia to attack Trump, campaign aides

 

While the mainstream news media hunts for evidence of Trump-Russia collusion, the public record shows that Democrats have willfully used Moscow disinformation to influence the presidential election against Donald Trump and attack his administration.

 

The disinformation came in the form of a Russian-fed dossier written by former British intelligence agent Christopher Steele. It contains a series of unverified criminal charges against Mr. Trumps campaign aides, such as coordinating Moscows hacking of Democratic Party computers.

 

The same Democrats who have condemned Russias election interference via plying fake news and hacking email servers have quoted freely from the Steele anti-Trump memos derived from creatures of the Kremlin.

 

In other words, there is public evidence of significant, indirect collusion between Democrats and Russian disinformation

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/11/democrats-spread-false-russian-information-on-trum/

The selteele dossier is being proven correct day by day.

 

Disinformation

What a complete crapass article full of falsehoods.

[NewbieJr 541]

Whoa. Full retard mode is in full effect. The right is losing it. House of cards is crumbling

[Mike Honcho 5,148]

Whoa. Full retard mode is in full effect. The right is losing it. House of cards is crumbling

They should stick with their global warming denials, those are less laughable.

[drobeski 3,061]

The selteele dossier is being proven correct day by day.

 

Disinformation

What a complete crapass article full of falsehoods.

link ? Do you ever stop making up your facts ?

[Baker Boy 1,691]

The selteele dossier is being proven correct day by day.

Disinformation

What a complete crapass article full of falsehoods.

Name one thing that was proven true!

 

You can post it with the lies that were spread.

[Baker Boy 1,691]

Whoa. Full retard mode is in full effect. The right is losing it. House of cards is crumbling

They are people who are unable to engage in productive dialogue, discourse, and debate. They're unable to hear the other side without leading to ad hominem insults,