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[NewbieJr 541]

There is so much stupid in this thread..

 

Newbie, how the fock do you have this much time to post?

 

Did you get fired or some sh!t? Focking Christ dude, find a hobby. I thought Sho was pathetic...

 

when you're a boss, you get a lot of time to do what you want. Good luck climbing the corporate ladder. There's gold up there. Lolol

[drobeski 3,061]

I'm not saying there was focktard.

 

I'm pointing out how christians would feel about their religion being raided, and extrapolating.

 

You guys and your Toby Keith "let's just go kill em" approach is awfully cute though. Completely simplistic and unworkable, dangerous even, but cute.

don't give good reasons to be raided....like blowing up little girls.

 

[giraldi02 474]

Yeah. Everyone knows newbie licks colons, not other punctuation.

Gold star

[Hardcore troubadour 15,476]

The biggest morons are the ones who continue to mention ancient Christian violence in correlation to these modern savages and their equally disgusting enablers of the same " faith". STFU. You look so stupid.

[Baker Boy 1,700]

when you're a boss, you get a lot of time to do what you want. Good luck climbing the corporate ladder. There's gold up there. Lolol

How old are you? No one under the age of 80 uses the term "Boss".

 

A Boss who has to DJ during his free time to make ends meet. You've got it all!

 

#orangeboss

[NewbieJr 541]

How old are you? No one under the age of 80 uses the term "Boss".

 

A Boss who has to DJ during his free time to make ends meet. You've got it all!

 

#orangeboss

I just used the word boss. Got it, boss?

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

The biggest morons are the ones who continue to mention ancient Christian violence in correlation to these modern savages and their equally disgusting enablers of the same " faith". STFU. You look so stupid.

Except that's not what happened.

 

My point is this...

 

Yes, we should hunt extremists. This is a shadow war. Find them and kill them.

 

But doing it by taking on entire countries or religions at a time is stupid. It just perpetuates the cycle.

 

Again. Not comparing Christianity to Islam. Not saying any of this is our fault.

 

Just saying, the approach we have been trying clearly doesn't work.

[NorthernVike 2,087]

Yeah. Everyone knows newbie licks colons, not other punctuation.

Not even a semicolon?

[NorthernVike 2,087]

 

My point is this...

 

Yes, we should hunt extremists. This is a shadow war. Find them and kill them.

 

 

As long as we don't have to have a trial for the POSs in my country, and I say mine because it sure the hell a it yours anymore, I'm all for it.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,476]

Except that's not what happened.

 

My point is this...

 

Yes, we should hunt extremists. This is a shadow war. Find them and kill them.

 

But doing it by taking on entire countries or religions at a time is stupid. It just perpetuates the cycle.

 

Again. Not comparing Christianity to Islam. Not saying any of this is our fault.

 

Just saying, the approach we have been trying clearly doesn't work.

The best approach, and the most humane for that matter, is to keep them out of modern civilizations and let the ones that are, unfortunately, already here possibly calm the fock down or maybe stop being part of this backwards cult altogether. At least it gives authorities a better chance of monitoring what we have instead of adding to the pile like Obama, HRC and their followers would like to do.

[12th Man 884]

when you're a boss, you get a lot of time to do what you want. Good luck climbing the corporate ladder. There's gold up there. Lolol

Corporate ladder? Which company? I can't wait to hear this...

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

As long as we don't have to have a trial for the POSs in my country, and I say mine because it sure the hell a it yours anymore, I'm all for it.

Frankly... you wanna put two in their head behind a rock where you find em... be my guest.

 

But if you are going to openly bring them to us soil and hold them in captivity, then basic due process should apply. It is one of the fundamental things we are founded on.

 

I would create a secret, closed tribunal for such matters personally.

 

And I'm as American as you are, even if I choose to explore opportunities elsewhere. Just look at it this way... one less focker crowding up the roads and using resources in America.

[Cloaca du jour 2,150]

Agitate? Add jatate?

 

Kidding i hope

[Reality 3,121]

when you're a boss, you get a lot of time to do what you want. Good luck climbing the corporate ladder. There's gold up there. Lolol

Newbie believes he has to lie to kick it.

 

 

Poor fella.

[NewbieJr 541]

Newbie believes he has to lie to kick it.

 

 

Poor fella.

I've been telling every fact of my life since I got here. 13 years ago. I tell the good and the bad. And don't care what anyone thinks of either.

[12th Man 884]

You're being a retard. 100%./ To a man.

would 100% of mosque going Muslims commit terror attacks? No. But NO Muslim who attends a mosque would report a potential terror attack. If you believe these so-called"moderate" Muslims would, you are focking delusional.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

would 100% of mosque going Muslims commit terror attacks? No. But NO Muslim who attends a mosque would report a potential terror attack. If you believe these so-called"moderate" Muslims would, you are focking delusional.

I haven't spent much time on the mean streets of the Arab world, but I venture to guess it's a lot like in the AA community here.

 

Most inner city residents aren't going to perform a drive by. But they ain't gonna report one either.

 

Why? Because they will be killed if they do.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,476]

I haven't spent much time on the mean streets of the Arab world, but I venture to guess it's a lot like in the AA community here.

 

Most inner city residents aren't going to perform a drive by. But they ain't gonna report one either.

 

Why? Because they will be killed if they do.

And as long as those drive bys stay in the hood and the ones being shot are other hoods NGAF. Islamic terrorism is on a different, much more dangerous level. It's like comparing the KKK to Nazis in Germany. Different level, that affects everyone.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

And as long as those drive bys stay in the hood and the ones being shot are other hoods NGAF. Islamic terrorism is on a different, much more dangerous level. It's like comparing the KKK to Nazis in Germany. Different level, that affects everyone.

Sure. I'm just saying. They probably aren't not reporting it because they support it... as much as they are scared.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,476]

Sure. I'm just saying. They probably aren't not reporting it because they support it... as much as they are scared.

And their religion calls for it. Sorry, I'm not willing to overlook that aspect.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

And their religion calls for it. Sorry, I'm not willing to overlook that aspect.

Yeah. Pretty much all religions call for silly sh!t.

 

I'm not an apologist for Islam. I find their entire culture a toilet and their religion absolutely loathsome. But declaring war on a religion of several billion people (and rapidly growing) is just not a plan that will lead to success.

 

I don't know what the answer is. I don't really think there is one honestly. It's just part of the new reality sadly.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,476]

Yeah. Pretty much all religions call for silly sh!t.

 

I'm not an apologist for Islam. I find their entire culture a toilet and their religion absolutely loathsome. But declaring war on a religion of several billion people (and rapidly growing) is just not a plan that will lead to success.

 

I don't know what the answer is. I don't really think there is one honestly. It's just part of the new reality sadly.

There it is again, the other religion ridiculous correlation. Other religions are not the current problem. They have been reduced to being an annoyance for non believers, nothing more. And no, it is not to be an accepted new sad reality. Sometimes you have to fight. If you think it never ends then guess what? They are going to defeat us. And that's not some tin foil hat nonsense. Unless you don't consider much of Europe forever changed for the worse. I do. That will be our fate,'once we accept it. Fock that.

[NewbieJr 541]

There it is again, the other religion ridiculous correlation. Other religions are not the current problem. They have been reduced to being an annoyance for non believers, nothing more. And no, it is not to be an accepted new sad reality. Sometimes you have to fight. If you think it never ends then guess what? They are going to defeat us. And that's not some tin foil hat nonsense. Unless you don't consider much of Europe forever changed for the worse. I do. That will be our fate,'once we accept it. Fock that.

So full fledged religious war against the Muslims? That's your plan? Let's hear your full plan. What about the millions already in our country? Start with that.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

There it is again, the other religion ridiculous correlation. Other religions are not the current problem. They have been reduced to being an annoyance for non believers, nothing more. And no, it is not to be an accepted new sad reality. Sometimes you have to fight. If you think it never ends then guess what? They are going to defeat us. And that's not some tin foil hat nonsense. Unless you don't consider much of Europe forever changed for the worse. I do. That will be our fate,'once we accept it. Fock that.

1. Yes, all religions call for silly sh!t. and yes, most of them have abandoned all that idiocy and moderated. Sure. Both are viruses. One just mutated to a benign strain.

 

2. Fight who exactly? Where? They are not like the nazis that will give you a nice big easy to find target. It is something that exists in every race, in every country on this earth.

 

So seriously. What are you going to do?

 

Sure. Drone their camps when you find em. Use special forces and CIA types to hunt and kill the leaders.

 

But the random freaks that are sitting in their basement alone plotting jihad at a shopping mall?

 

Not much you can do to prevent that. Just like the mass shooters.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,476]

So full fledged religious war against the Muslims? That's your plan? Let's hear your full plan. What about the millions already in our country? Start with that.

Keep them out, at least the ones from the hot beds that we have no way of confirming their identification and background, and keep an eye on any suspicious activity that is in house already. Don't put more wood on the fire. That's my start. I know, Im an inhumane monster.

[NewbieJr 541]

Keep them out, at least the ones from the hot beds that we have no way of confirming their identification and background, and keep an eye on any suspicious activity that is in house already. Don't put more wood on the fire. That's my start. I know, Im an inhumane monster.

I actually understand this thinking. And can make an argument for it. But I feel the short term and long term ramifications would be worse than if we vetted and let them in.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Keep them out, at least the ones from the hot beds that we have no way of confirming their identification and background, and keep an eye on any suspicious activity that is in house already. Don't put more wood on the fire. That's my start. I know, Im an inhumane monster.

Well there is a simple answer.

 

Of course, like most simple answers, it ain't that simple.

 

So you're gonna block "them" from entering.

 

Who is "them?"

 

All muslims? All people from Muslim countries? Anyone who has been to said countries?

 

Do you really not see that that is not a realistic thing in a global economy? To ban 1/3 or so of the population of the earth?

 

That's not even talking about the millions that live here.

 

And of course, we do have several thousand miles of borders to worry about.

 

Here's a thought. Ever wondered why terrorist attacks only seem to happen in the West? Never (or very rarely) in Asia or the Southern Hemisphere? Maybe we should look at what they are doing... namely, not swimming in that focking toilet in the first place.

[Djgb13 2,339]

I'll say this. Obama tied the military's hands with ALOT of things. He also let terrorists that were confined go, made deals with terrorists (even though we aren't supposed to negotiate with terrorists), traded away multiple terrorist leaders for one traitor, etc. Mosf of the active military were pretty pissed with him and wanted him gone. Trump has at least untied the hands of the military and is letting them run how they should. Still more work to be done but appointing Mattis was the best thing for us.

 

Now homeland terrorism is a different thing which is more sensitive to some people. Mainly because they will cry racism if anything is done to the masses. While I do agree it isn't fair that innocent people will be profiled and oppressed, there comes a point when that must be done in order to save more people. When these acts of terror are coming from literally a specific set of people you can't just be like (well we can't profile them cause it would hurt their feelings so we will just keep going about things the same way). There will come a time when the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and we will have to start treating most of these people as potential threats. It's not fair and I hate it for them but it must be done.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

I'll say this. Obama tied the military's hands with ALOT of things. He also let terrorists that were confined go, made deals with terrorists (even though we aren't supposed to negotiate with terrorists), traded away multiple terrorist leaders for one traitor, etc. Mosf of the active military were pretty pissed with him and wanted him gone. Trump has at least untied the hands of the military and is letting them run how they should. Still more work to be done but appointing Mattis was the best thing for us.

 

Now homeland terrorism is a different thing which is more sensitive to some people. Mainly because they will cry racism if anything is done to the masses. While I do agree it isn't fair that innocent people will be profiled and oppressed, there comes a point when that must be done in order to save more people. When these acts of terror are coming from literally a specific set of people you can't just be like (well we can't profile them cause it would hurt their feelings so we will just keep going about things the same way). There will come a time when the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few and we will have to start treating most of these people as potential threats. It's not fair and I hate it for them but it must be done.

And that is the fundinenatal threat of terrorism.

 

Every time we give up a little freedom for a little (illusory) safety, they win. We become more like them. The world becomes less free.

 

I would rather bear the risk of terrorism than betray who we are and what we stand for. We should be better than that. Stronger than that.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,476]

And that is the fundinenatal threat of terrorism.

 

Every time we give up a little freedom for a little (illusory) safety, they win. We become more like them. The world becomes less free.

 

I would rather bear the risk of terrorism than betray who we are and what we stand for. We should be better than that. Stronger than that.

If children in the United States start getting killed, not only will the citizenry give up their freedoms, they will demand to have them taken from them. So I say better to be offensive to the people of Islam, then to be polite and end up having to do even worse. Our cultures are oil and water. Face it.

[Djgb13 2,339]

And that is the fundinenatal threat of terrorism.

 

Every time we give up a little freedom for a little (illusory) safety, they win. We become more like them. The world becomes less free.

 

I would rather bear the risk of terrorism than betray who we are and what we stand for. We should be better than that. Stronger than that.

It's a catch 22 really. Give up freedom to be safer but become more like them. Or keep letting them be, bring them in, cater to them and remain nonjudgemental but still allowing free range for them to commit these acts. I guarantee the government is looking for alternatives but with those people there's really no changing them. We could always just butt out of their business in the ME but that won't stop these things from happening. It could very well lead to more of them since we wouldn't be killing any on their own turf or blowing up their supplies. Instead it could lead to them flourishing. Like you said, they don't bother the Asian countries as much. It could also be those countries are more prejudiced to anyone not Asian (this is just speculation on what I've witnessed and friends of mine have witnessed first hand).

[Gepetto 1,370]

Do to them what the white man did to the Native Americans, or they will do to us what the white man did to Native Americans. Start by just not letting anymore into our country. Try to befriend them, get them drunk, take them to bars, let them adapt to American ways of life until they don't focus on their religious doctrines as much. Probably not gonna happen, Muslims think they're better than non-Muslims so destroy them or be destroyed.

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

Do to them what the white man did to the Native Americans, or they will do to us what the white man did to Native Americans. Start by just not letting anymore into our country. Try to befriend them, get them drunk, take them to bars, let them adapt to American ways of life until they don't focus on their religious doctrines as much. Probably not gonna happen, Muslims think they're better than non-Muslims so destroy them or be destroyed.

So you are advocating some sort of genicidal show down? Us (Americans, or whites if you can get Europe and Russia to play) versus the muzzles?

 

So we are going to invade and kill pretty much everyone in...

 

Morocco, Iran, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabi, Oman, yemen, Sudan, United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Uzbekistan, Pakistan, Khazakstan, Kurdistan, Afghanistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, among other countries im sure I'm forgetting.

 

This of course fails to take into consideration muslims from non Muslim countries, like Europe, the United States, Half of China, and a good chunk of Russia and India.

 

Sounds like a great plan.

 

So we're gonna kill a couple billion people. Women and children too I assume. Or shall we just sterilize those perhaps? I'm just spitballing, don't wanna come off soft here.

 

Of course, there may be a bit of a problem determining who is and who is not a Muslim... perhaps we should devise some sort of test. Make them wear yellow crescents, until the final solution is arranged. Or we could just kill em all and let allah sort em out, Amirite?

 

There is the problem that they outnumber us by about 6:1... we have better toys, and are real good at killing folks, but still... and people tend to fight hard when you are trying to kill their children... gotta figure the casualty rates will be very high.

 

Or I guess we could use nukes... I mean sure, all the nuclear powers have significant Muslim populations too... that could get hairy... better hope that missile shield works.

 

Jesus focking Christ man. Listen to yourself.

[NewbieJr 541]

Lol. Fear turns the weak into little Hitlers.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

And that is the fundinenatal threat of terrorism.

 

Every time we give up a little freedom for a little (illusory) safety, they win. We become more like them. The world becomes less free.

 

I would rather bear the risk of terrorism than betray who we are and what we stand for. We should be better than that. Stronger than that.

What exactly do we stand for? At our base, we are a country of law. Moreso than any other ever created. When we get away from law we run into trouble. Enforce the laws and we are fine. The snoflake do gooders who wish to ignore what we stand for are the problem.

 

 

"I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors." Thomas Jefferson

 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

she would never look at your flabby weak body again the same way. She would buy you a gym membership. Start giving you hints about plastic surgery. Your best bet is never letting her set eyes on me.

 

Last time you were hitting on a married chick went well for you....... http://imgur.com/gallery/TLTwmJo

[FeelingMN 273]

What exactly do we stand for? At our base, we are a country of law. Moreso than any other ever created. When we get away from law we run into trouble. Enforce the laws and we are fine. The snoflake do gooders who wish to ignore what we stand for are the problem.

 

 

That's a great quote for gun control. Which I'm sure you're in favor of.

 

And the problem isn't "snowflake do gooders". The problem is terrorism. Pretty sad you think the problem is the people who you disagree with rather than the people trying to kill you.

 

A common thread with a lot of these terrorists is that they seem to have been on someone's radar. For whatever reason they seem to slip through and enact their killing. Perhaps if we tightened that up we wouldn't have to ban an entire religion.

[12th Man 884]

Lol. Fear turns the weak into little Hitlers.

why do leftists automatically play the Hitler card?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,476]

 

That's a great quote for gun control. Which I'm sure you're in favor of.

 

And the problem isn't "snowflake do gooders". The problem is terrorism. Pretty sad you think the problem is the people who you disagree with rather than the people trying to kill you.

 

A common thread with a lot of these terrorists is that they seem to have been on someone's radar. For whatever reason they seem to slip through and enact their killing. Perhaps if we tightened that up we wouldn't have to ban an entire religion.

Sure, making sure they are afforded all due process and adhering to PC nonsense has nothing to do with the fact that they can kill and maim while under surveillance. We can't even prevent them from entering our country without some aAholes filing a lawsuit and a judge catering to it because they don't like the President. Tighten up, what a joke.

[NewbieJr 541]

why do leftists automatically play the Hitler card?

Eliminate an entire group of people? Does that ring a bell, idiot?