6000 White Nationalists storm Charlottesville, VA

[crackattack 520]

So what, the police are supposed to stand around making sure everyone is at the proper protest?

 

Bet that was a good day to be doing Robberies on the other side of town.

Yes. If they're going to issue 3 permits, with one of them being to a hate group, then they better be sure they can handle the situation.

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[Sho Nuff 720]

Fock them and their torches but do you think they were going to beat the sh!t out each other? The fact is, as tasteless and reprehensible as their message may have been, there would have been zero violence had the protesters not showed up.

And the chick wouldn't have been raped had she not worn that dress, right?

[5-Points 3,567]

Your right to peacefully assemble doesn't give you the right to do it publicly without any criticism.

It gives me the right and the requirement to do so peacefully. The same goes for any "criticism".

[Sho Nuff 720]

Didn't answer my question, but ok, I'll answer yours. Then maybe you can answer mine.

 

No. They should not have been allowed at the same park as the Nazi protest. Same as the Nazis shouldn't be allowed at the counter protesters designated park. Seems like a logical way to try to keep it peaceful. Everyone has their constitutional right to peaceful assembly.

 

Now, can you answer my question?

I did... I condone no violence. Being drowned out is not infringing on someone else's right.

[Sho Nuff 720]

Yes. If they're going to issue 3 permits, with one of them being to a hate group, then they better be sure they can handle the situation.

I think we all agree the police could have handled this better. Especially after the Friday night BS

[5-Points 3,567]

Infringe? By being loud? How do they not?

Do bikers have the right to get in between a soldiers funeral and westboro?

One right to assemble does not mean people don't have the right to also assemble and drown out the other.

You should look up the word "peacefully". It'll help.

[Sho Nuff 720]

It gives me the right and the requirement to do so peacefully. The same goes for any "criticism".

Peacefully doesn't mean you can have complete quiet to be an . The government needs to allow you to speak...we don't have to allow you to be heard in public.

[Sho Nuff 720]

You should look up the word "peacefully". It'll help.

You should try understanding the rights you are trying to discuss.

[crackattack 520]

I did... I condone no violence. Being drowned out is not infringing on someone else's right.

You didn't. So you're for censorship. You believe speech that's offensive shouldn't be heard. Hence the "drown out". So people have no right to hear it, therefore you're infringing on their right to listen to it. What about literature? Music? Art? Should all offensive art,music, movies be censored or "drown out"?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Not what I said...but you keep trying. Also acting as if only one side showed up armed is funny.

And they had a permit...quit believing Trumps lies.

Sadly snoflake, the violence brought on by the lefty hooligans took place at the permitted site of the alt right rally....quit being lied to.

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Solid contribution. Now go try to upsell Becky a new air filter.

[Sho Nuff 720]

You didn't. So you're for censorship. You believe speech that's offensive shouldn't be heard. Hence the "drown out". So people have no right to hear it, therefore you're infringing on their right to listen to it. What about literature? Music? Art? Should all offensive art,music, movies be censored or "drown out"?

 

People talking louder than others is not censorship.

Nor is it the government acting or taking away someone's freedom of speech.

 

The rest of your questions are just idiotic and not worthy of answers.

 

Do you believe bikers have the right to put themselves between Westboro Baptist folks and a soldier's funeral?

[Sho Nuff 720]

Sadly snoflake, the violence brought on by the lefty hooligans took place at the permitted site of the alt right rally....quit being lied to.

 

Sadly...you again have zero evidence that any violence was brought on by the lefty hooligans.

Interesting how you keep talking about them...but not the heavily armed Nazis.

Lying...you are the one who keep spitting out what Trump has said...and not providing anything to show your side.

I have posted links and multiple videos now.

Watch the Vice documentary that has been linked...then keep whining about the lefties rather than actually going after focking nazis. JFC you people are nuts all to support Donald focking Trump.

[5-Points 3,567]

You should try understanding the rights you are trying to discuss.

"...the right of the people peaceably to assemble..."

 

 

peace·a·ble

 

 

ADJECTIVE

 

inclined to avoid argument or violent conflict:

 

 

free from argument or conflict; peaceful:

 

"the mainly peaceable daily demonstrations for democratic reform"

 

synonyms: peaceful ·

 

 

 

Please, enlighten me professor.

[MDC 7,494]

It gives me the right and the requirement to do so peacefully. The same goes for any "criticism".

You are sadly mistaken as to the extent of your "rights".

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Solid contribution. Now go try to upsell Becky a new air filter.

Go polish knobs in the warehouse.

[drobeski 3,061]

I think the head count in the thread title is a bit exaggerated.

[surferskin 30]

Being loud?

[crackattack 520]

 

People talking louder than others is not censorship.

Nor is it the government acting or taking away someone's freedom of speech.

 

The rest of your questions are just idiotic and not worthy of answers.

 

Do you believe bikers have the right to put themselves between Westboro Baptist folks and a soldier's funeral?

1. If I want to go to a legal protest/speech/conference/ or whatever, and an illegal counter group shows up, shuts it down, makes it impossible to hear, or starts violence making it unsafe to attend. You don't see that as a form of censorship? I sure do. Censorship doesn't have to come from a government entity.

 

2. Completely within the realm of people playing moral police.

 

3. If they comply with local laws and permits, then I have no problem. If westboro plans, gets legal permit, is designated to a certain area, and counter protester violate their area, trying to drown them out, then yes, I'd have issues.

 

People can't just protest and counter protest anywhere they want. That's why we have laws.

[drobeski 3,061]

Being loud?

with helmets, masks (because they are the ultimate wimps) and bats

[Sho Nuff 720]

"...the right of the people peaceably to assemble..."

 

 

peace·a·ble

 

 

ADJECTIVE

 

inclined to avoid argument or violent conflict:

 

 

free from argument or conflict; peaceful:

 

"the mainly peaceable daily demonstrations for democratic reform"

 

synonyms: peaceful ·

 

 

 

Please, enlighten me professor.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/27/politics/first-amendment-explainer-trnd/index.html

 

 

"If a speaker were to take legal action for being blocked from speaking, they can't do it against the students. You can't take constitutional action against a group of private citizens," she adds.

 

 

So what action is going to be taken against private citizens being louder than another group?

You are conflating the dictionary definnition of peaceful and a constitutional right and where the government gives you the right to assemble...that is not the right to be heard.

In addition...given the nature of the protest and how it could have been deemed to be that which would incite violence...it could have legally been shut down by the government had they seen fit to do so.

https://www.aclunc.org/our-work/know-your-rights/free-speech-protests-demonstrations

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

The Left's way of debating.....act shrill and shout down the opposition.

 

Crassic....

[Sho Nuff 720]

1. If I want to go to a legal protest/speech/conference/ or whatever, and an illegal counter group shows up, shuts it down, makes it impossible to hear, or starts violence making it unsafe to attend. You don't see that as a form of censorship? I sure do. Censorship doesn't have to come from a government entity.

 

2. Completely within the realm of people playing moral police.

 

3. If they comply with local laws and permits, then I have no problem. If westboro plans, gets legal permit, is designated to a certain area, and counter protester violate their area, trying to drown them out, then yes, I'd have issues.

 

People can't just protest and counter protest anywhere they want. That's why we have laws.

 

1. No...I don't see a counter protest being louder as censorship. And certainly not a violation of any 1st Amendment rights. Starting violence is another thing. And not sure how many times going back a long time that you need me to say i don't condone violence in these things or violence as a form of protest.

2. I wasn't playing moral police.

 

and actually in many public places you are allowed to protest and counter protest where you want. Its up to that state/city to have laws in place and enforce such restrictions of time and venue.

[Sho Nuff 720]

with helmets, masks (because they are the ultimate wimps) and bats

 

Are you talking about the Nazis...with shields, helmets, pipes and guns?

[MDC 7,494]

The Left's way of debating.....act shrill and shout down the opposition.

 

 

Have you watched any Fox News lately?

[Sho Nuff 720]

The Left's way of debating.....act shrill and shout down the opposition.

 

Crassic....

 

The irony here from a Trump supporter.

Nobody was discussing debate jackass.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Have you watched any Fox News lately?

Yeah, they should seriously reconsider hosting any Democrats.

[DankNuggs 305]

Besides the car ramming, anyone have any issues with nazis and communists beating the hell out of each other

[drobeski 3,061]

 

Are you talking about the Nazis...with shields, helmets, pipes and guns?

they had them, so did your antifa pals. That's the point, both sides are ass holes. And guess what, it's ok to point that out. It doesnt make you racist, it makes you a realist.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

 

The irony here from a Trump supporter.

Nobody was discussing debate jackass.

You're saying it's okay to just drown out those who you don't agree with idiot.

[Sho Nuff 720]

they had them, so did your antifa pals. That's the point, both sides are ass holes. And guess what, it's ok to point that out. It doesnt make you racist, it makes you a realist.

 

I have no antifa pals. I have stated their tactics in protest are not needed and have called them out before inciting violence during peaceful protests around the country.

 

But your Nazi boys came armed as much as possible...yet all you can do is whine about how supposedly armed you think the other side was.

Nothing about you is a realist drobeski.

You are a biased hack who will never see the truth.

[12th Man 884]

 

I have no antifa pals. I have stated their tactics in protest are not needed and have called them out before inciting violence during peaceful protests around the country.

 

 

Link to 1?

[Sho Nuff 720]

You're saying it's okay to just drown out those who you don't agree with idiot.

 

Im saying during a protest its legal to do so...yes.

 

You support a man who tried doing such things during actual debates.

Who shouts down reporters yelling fake news when they ask him questions.

 

As usual...you are looking stupid.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

I have no antifa pals. I have stated their tactics in protest are not needed and have called them out before inciting violence during peaceful protests around the country.

 

But your Nazi boys came armed as much as possible...yet all you can do is whine about how supposedly armed you think the other side was.

Nothing about you is a realist drobeski.

You are a biased hack who will never see the truth.

so your antifa boys weren't armed and violent ?

[MDC 7,494]

Yeah, they should seriously reconsider hosting any Democrats.

Being shrill and shouting people down is oretty much the MO of every host on te network.

[NewbieJr 541]

Go polish knobs in the warehouse.

As I sit in my spacious air conditioned office, listening to my Amazon Unlimited Music account through my computer speakers w/subwoofer and looking out my huge window, I can't help but to chuckle at my warehouse days from 1998.

[Sho Nuff 720]

so your antifa boys weren't armed and violent ?

 

They aren't my boys.

Try again.

[drobeski 3,061]

 

They aren't my boys.

Try again.

armed and violent?

[DankNuggs 305]

 

I have no antifa pals. I have stated their tactics in protest are not needed and have called them out before inciting violence during peaceful protests around the country.

 

But your Nazi boys came armed as much as possible...yet all you can do is whine about how supposedly armed you think the other side was.

Nothing about you is a realist drobeski.

You are a biased hack who will never see the truth.

this purity penor measuring contest where white nationalists are justly declared evil but the other side must be labeled good is funny to me.

 

Like CNN declaring the solution to this white nationalist issue is to elect progressive politicians... ya, because I have a problem with white nationalists I have to turn over my paycheck to socialist politicians to do what they want... makes sense

 

 

antifa - communists

 

the chick who was arrested in Durham for climbing the statue and putting the rope over it is a college student with the World Workers Party....Communists.