penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 27, 2017 Maybe its because I am in the Northeast, but NY style pizza is just pizza to me. Unless youre specifically ordering something like Sicilian or deep dish, you get your basic thin crust style. So its odd to hear people say NY style pizza is trash. What other kind of pizza are you eating? I think of NY style as paper thin crust and little toppings. The crust is either saturated in grease and soggy, or overly crisp, making it difficult to eat with your hands. Regular pizza has slightly thicker crust, so you can pick it up and eat without it falling apart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 939 Posted December 27, 2017 Had something called neapolitan pizza a long while back. I can't even describe it. It's sort of like somebody intended to try to make pizza but kept getting distracted. Freaking awful. We have a place like that here and though I've never tried it I've had friends tell me it's way overpriced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,121 Posted December 27, 2017 I think of NY style as paper thin crust and little toppings. The crust is either saturated in grease and soggy, or overly crisp, making it difficult to eat with your hands. Regular pizza has slightly thicker crust, so you can pick it up and eat without it falling apart. I see places down here advertise NY style pizza all the time and its just pizza. Ive had super thin / crispy crust pizza thats not necessarily called NY style. The pics here look the same as any pizza chain or otherwise: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York-style_pizza Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 836 Posted December 28, 2017 I think of NY style as paper thin crust and little toppings. The crust is either saturated in grease and soggy, or overly crisp, making it difficult to eat with your hands. Regular pizza has slightly thicker crust, so you can pick it up and eat without it falling apart. Then you know nothing about pizza. Brick oven (coal) pizza is slightly thinner crust and usually not many toppings but if you walk into any regular pizza place in and around NYC it is not thin crust and there is a plethora of available toppings. HTHs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,969 Posted December 28, 2017 I see places down here advertise NY style pizza all the time and its just pizza. Ive had super thin / crispy crust pizza thats not necessarily called NY style. The pics here look the same as any pizza chain or otherwise: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York-style_pizza Yeah those pictures in Wiki, to me seem like just pizza. On the thin side but nothing ridiculous or hard to eat about them. The crust is crisp but flexible. Not sure why it is so hard for some to grasp. Now go to the Chicago. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_pizza Are you fooking kidding me? That isn't pizza by ANYONES stretch of the imagination. That is a casserole. Looks disgusting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,063 Posted December 28, 2017 Then you know nothing about pizza. Brick oven (coal) pizza is slightly thinner crust and usually not many toppings but if you walk into any regular pizza place in and around NYC it is not thin crust and there is a plethora of available toppings. HTHs He's from Hawaii. Might as well be from china as far as pizza goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 836 Posted December 28, 2017 He's from Hawaii. Might as well be from china as far as pizza goes. True. Probably likes pineapple on pizza. Heathen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 I see places down here advertise NY style pizza all the time and its just pizza. Ive had super thin / crispy crust pizza thats not necessarily called NY style. The pics here look the same as any pizza chain or otherwise:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York-style_pizzaThat description is similar to what I posted: thin crust, often crispy, and not easy to eat - why the fock should my food need folding to be eaten? ETA I left out the part about unusually large slices, which adds to the mess when eating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,943 Posted December 28, 2017 ETA I left out the part about unusually large slices, which adds to the mess when eating. What ot likes in quality, they try to make up for in clownish slice size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 What ot likes in quality, they try to make up for in clownish slice size.Yep. Its not like its terrible, but the hyperbole needs to stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,121 Posted December 28, 2017 That description is similar to what I posted: thin crust, often crispy, and not easy to eat - why the fock should my food need folding to be eaten? ETA I left out the part about unusually large slices, which adds to the mess when eating. My point is that NY style pizza is just default pizza. At least here in the Northeast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 My point is that NY style pizza is just default pizza. At least here in the Northeast.Yes, especially near Fish Town. But the world doesnt revolve around NYC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,778 Posted December 28, 2017 there are three pictures on that page. the one on the right is what i most associate with NY style pizza. its very good, but the only style that is good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 836 Posted December 28, 2017 ETA I left out the part about unusually large slices, which adds to the mess when eating. Cut into 8 slices. Where do you get unusually large slices from. You all grasping at straws. I'm done here. Go Fock a pineapple Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,778 Posted December 28, 2017 Cut into 8 slices. Where do you get unusually large slices from. You all grasping at straws. I'm done here. Go Fock a pineapple i have seen some very large slices. large enough that one might want to fold it to avoid grease from dripping onto them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 836 Posted December 28, 2017 i have seen some very large slices. large enough that one might want to fold it to avoid grease from dripping onto them. WTF with this folding thing. I always fold my slice and it never is a problem- WTF. I am missing something here because NY has great pizza and I fold it. Who doesn't ? Maybe the Jews or Phags that need a knife and fork ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,063 Posted December 28, 2017 WTF with this folding thing. I always fold my slice and it never is a problem- WTF. I am missing something here because NY has great pizza and I fold it. Who doesn't ? Maybe the Jews or Phags that need a knife and fork ?? I'm baffled by this as well. You fold it once. BFD. I guess they get some sloppy pies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,778 Posted December 28, 2017 WTF with this folding thing. I always fold my slice and it never is a problem- WTF. I am missing something here because NY has great pizza and I fold it. Who doesn't ? Maybe the Jews or Phags that need a knife and fork ?? i fold my large slices of NY pizza and do not think anything of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 WTF with this folding thing. I always fold my slice and it never is a problem- WTF. I am missing something here because NY has great pizza and I fold it. Who doesn't ? Maybe the Jews or Phags that need a knife and fork ?? Most pizza doesn’t require folding, nor utensils for that matter. HTH Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,063 Posted December 28, 2017 Most pizza doesnt require folding, nor utensils for that matter. HTH Then it's not pizza. It's some mass produced flat bread with sauce and cheese. There's no Dago flipping it above his head. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 Then it's not pizza. It's some mass produced flat bread with sauce and cheese. There's no Dago flipping it above his head.You might not know any better, but there are many styles of pizza in the world. And the folding nonsense has nothing to do with authentic Italian pizza. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,063 Posted December 28, 2017 You might not know any better, but there are many styles of pizza in the world. And the folding nonsense has nothing to do with authentic Italian pizza. That's great. But the subject is NY Pizza and you saying it sucks. And you're not even eating it by what you describe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,947 Posted December 28, 2017 Ok, lets end all this nonsense now, before we reach 2018. If you dont have enough manual dexterity to eat a slice of NY pizza, you should go ahead and forfeit your drivers license now. There are many great places scattered throughout NY and the northeast but my favorite NY style pizza can be found at the Fairfield CT metro north stop. Place called The Nauti Dolphin. http://www.ctbites.com/blog/2012/5/28/nauti-dolphin-new-york-style-pizza-in-fairfield.html As I said before, Chicago pizza should really be called something other than pizza. Its great, but not comparable. Go to Lou Malnatis for the best. https://www.loumalnatis.com As for the chains, you may as well go to Little Caesar for $5. They all suck equally, but at least its cheap. Brick oven pizza is also stupid. Who the hell likes the taste of burnt crust anyway? California pizza kitchen and other newfangled pizza is also a different category. It may start with a dough, but once chicken, bbq sauce, pineapple and other goofy stuff enters the equation, its no longer pizza. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,121 Posted December 28, 2017 Yes, especially near Fish Town. But the world doesnt revolve around NYC. Pizza wise it does, since virtually every pizza place throughout the US is serving some version of NY style pizza whether they specifically market it that way or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 8,121 Posted December 28, 2017 FWIW my favorite pizza ever is NOT NY style pizza. Its Santuccis, which is rectangular and does the sauce (spiced very much like tomatoe pie) over the cheese. And it doesnt require folding: http://santuccispizza.com This place is awesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,943 Posted December 28, 2017 Ok, lets end all this nonsense now, before we reach 2018. If you dont have enough manual dexterity to eat a slice of NY pizza, you should go ahead and forfeit your drivers license now. There are many great places scattered throughout NY and the northeast but my favorite NY style pizza can be found at the Fairfield CT metro north stop. Place called The Nauti Dolphin. http://www.ctbites.com/blog/2012/5/28/nauti-dolphin-new-york-style-pizza-in-fairfield.html As I said before, Chicago pizza should really be called something other than pizza. Its great, but not comparable. Go to Lou Malnatis for the best. https://www.loumalnatis.com As for the chains, you may as well go to Little Caesar for $5. They all suck equally, but at least its cheap. Brick oven pizza is also stupid. Who the hell likes the taste of burnt crust anyway? California pizza kitchen and other newfangled pizza is also a different category. It may start with a dough, but once chicken, bbq sauce, pineapple and other goofy stuff enters the equation, its no longer pizza. I guess new york style is the best by virtue of it being the only real pizza in your view. I'll go with the papa johns pizza like substance over it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 Pizza wise it does, since virtually every pizza place throughout the US is serving some version of NY style pizza whether they specifically market it that way or not. Disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 Ok, lets end all this nonsense now, before we reach 2018. If you dont have enough manual dexterity to eat a slice of NY pizza, you should go ahead and forfeit your drivers license now. There are many great places scattered throughout NY and the northeast but my favorite NY style pizza can be found at the Fairfield CT metro north stop. Place called The Nauti Dolphin. http://www.ctbites.com/blog/2012/5/28/nauti-dolphin-new-york-style-pizza-in-fairfield.html As I said before, Chicago pizza should really be called something other than pizza. Its great, but not comparable. Go to Lou Malnatis for the best. https://www.loumalnatis.com As for the chains, you may as well go to Little Caesar for $5. They all suck equally, but at least its cheap. Brick oven pizza is also stupid. Who the hell likes the taste of burnt crust anyway? California pizza kitchen and other newfangled pizza is also a different category. It may start with a dough, but once chicken, bbq sauce, pineapple and other goofy stuff enters the equation, its no longer pizza. I can eat NY pizza, it’s just not worth the effort and mess when non-NY pizza is just as good or better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 That's great. But the subject is NY Pizza and you saying it sucks. And you're not even eating it by what you describe.No, the subject is Papa John stepping down. I’ve had plenty of NY pizza, and there’s nothing special about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 16,063 Posted December 28, 2017 I can eat NY pizza, its just not worth the effort and mess when non-NY pizza is just as good or better. Effort? Mess? WTF are you talking about? You eat it with your hands. How much effort does it take? Why are you making a mess? Fold it and put it in your mouth. You're weird Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 Effort? Mess? WTF are you talking about? You eat it with your hands. How much effort does it take? Why are you making a mess? Fold it and put it in your mouth. You're weird That’s one extra step than other pizza. For something that tastes no better than comparators. I find it weird that northeasterners are incable of tolerating people who don’t get excited about NY style pizza. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,062 Posted December 28, 2017 Jesus, seeing Pen (who is utterly clueless and delusional about any food) try to talk about pizza is making the cringe muscles in my face hurt. Just oof and a double oof with an oof cherry on top. Where to even begin.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted December 28, 2017 I saw some place on Facebook. Think it was in philly. Served pizza with cold cheese and cold toppings. Like I melted grated cheese. Wtf. I think we can all agree thats just nasty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 Jesus, seeing Pen (who is utterly clueless and delusional about any food) try to talk about pizza is making the cringe muscles in my face hurt. Just oof and a double oof with an oof cherry on top. Where to even begin.. It ain't just me fvcko. The argument is purely based on opinion, so there isn't a right answer. Some people like NY style pizza, some don't. But at least we acknowledge other pizza types exist. And what qualifies you as a food expert? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 I saw some place on Facebook. Think it was in philly. Served pizza with cold cheese and cold toppings. Like I melted grated cheese. Wtf. I think we can all agree thats just nasty. That sounds terrible, similar to raw food vegetarian restaurants. Besides sushi, main courses were meant to be served hot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted December 28, 2017 I don't let my kids have gluten or lactose or peanuts. So I make a really fun pizza alternative that everyone just swears is just like the real thing! First, I find the largest head of cauliflower that I can find and then I slice it into approximately three-quarter inch slices these make perfect individual pan pizzas. I roast them up real nicely in the oven and in the last few minutes or so I put soy cheese down. Then I create a do-it-yourself Pizza Bar where the kids can put on fun toppings like quinoa and pomegranate seeds and vegetables and such. The kids loved it so much we decided to serve it at our last book club and even Pete who once had a connecting flight out of New York swears it's just like the real thing! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 I don't let my kids have gluten or lactose or peanuts. So I make a really fun pizza alternative that everyone just swears is just like the real thing! First, I find the largest head of cauliflower that I can find and then I slice it into approximately three-quarter inch slices these make perfect individual pan pizzas. I roast them up real nicely in the oven and in the last few minutes or so I put soy cheese down. Then I create a do-it-yourself Pizza Bar where the kids can put on fun toppings like quinoa and pomegranate seeds and vegetables and such. The kids loved it so much we decided to serve it at our last book club and even Pete who once had a connecting flight out of New York swears it's just like the real thing! You can't fold cauliflower Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,797 Posted December 28, 2017 You can't fold cauliflower Good point. On the other hand, I can roll my cauliflower ear up like a zigzag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted December 28, 2017 Full disclosure: Though I'd seen it done before, I didn't realize folding was considered an essential part of the pizza experience. So much so, some bozos have researched it: http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2015/08/28/way-eat-pizza-can-give-clues-about-your-personality.html Research reveals that the way you eat pizza can provide important clues about your personality type. Patti Wood, a body language expert at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia, took mundane acts and applied them to a well-known psychology theory called the DISC personal assessment, which centers on four different behavioral traits: dominance, inducement, submission, and compliance. "There are four distinct personality types—drivers, influencers, supporters, and careful correctors—who tend to have very unique ways of doing things, even small tasks," Wood says. ... If you fold it: Those who fold their pizza slice are considered "drivers." They're multi-taskers; they want to eat the pizza fast, and eat it while doing something else. If you start with the crust: People who eat the crust first are described as “influencers” who are spontaneous and like to be different. If you use a knife and fork: Those who cut their pizza are generally known as “supporters.” The research says they approach life relaxed and are warm and friendly listeners who likely let their friends get their slice first. If you just pick it up and bite: Those who eat it with their hands and bite their slice are known as the "careful correctors." They like to plan ahead so everything turns out as expected. They usually stick with the same flavors and toppings. As a careful corrector, I do like to plan ahead. But unlike a lot of you poosays who think pizza is just meat, cheese and sauce, I'm willing to try non-conventional toppings. Even pineapple! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted December 28, 2017 Full disclosure: Though I'd seen it done before, I didn't realize folding was considered an essential part of the pizza experience. So much so, some bozos have researched it: http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2015/08/28/way-eat-pizza-can-give-clues-about-your-personality.html As a careful corrector, I do like to plan ahead. But unlike a lot of you poosays who think pizza is just meat, cheese and sauce, I'm willing to try non-conventional toppings. Even pineapple! Crust first people are probably budding serial killers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites