MDC 5,893 Posted March 7, 2018 Regardless of party, caring about this shiot became obsolete the second Clinton got a pass on all the shiot that he did. Didnt Trump live stream a panel he hosted with several Bill Clinton accusers a year and a half ago? Now we find out he bribes hookers to keep them quiet. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted March 7, 2018 I don't think Russia is having any difficulties selling their oil, sanctions or not. Especially since there aren't any. Obama didn't feel the need to go there. Why would Hillary? They made such a sweet deal with the uranium. You guys have lost it. Russia's economy is roughly the size of Netherlands plus Belgium, it's not much, and it's controlled by a handful of oligarchs who very much feel the pinch. The sanctions are a big deal to Putin and his kleptocrats. But since this is a Stormy thread I think the tie in isn't so much that as just the fact that the Russian government has done such things to others and also it's clear Trump is susceptible to such things. Again just look at what happened with Stormy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,657 Posted March 7, 2018 Russia's economy is roughly the size of Netherlands plus Belgium, it's not much, and it's controlled by a handful of oligarchs who very much feel the pinch. The sanctions are a big deal to Putin and his kleptocrats. But since this is a Stormy thread I think the tie in isn't so much that as just the fact that the Russian government has done such things to others and also it's clear Trump is susceptible to such things. Again just look at what happened with Stormy. You brought up sanctions on oil and gas. They don't exist. Jeez man, stick to your story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,039 Posted March 7, 2018 Regardless of party, caring about this shiot became obsolete the second Clinton got a pass on all the shiot that he did. Clinton was impeached, that's not exactly a free pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,657 Posted March 7, 2018 Clinton was impeached, that's not exactly a free pass. He got a pass way before Monica. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted March 7, 2018 You brought up sanctions on oil and gas. They don't exist. Jeez man, stick to your story. Just as an example. http://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/exxon-cancels-involvement-russia-project-led-tillerson-citing/story?id=53458061 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,657 Posted March 7, 2018 Just as an example. http://abcnews.go.com/amp/International/exxon-cancels-involvement-russia-project-led-tillerson-citing/story?id=53458061 Oh, I thought Tillerson was Trumps SOS. Never mind. Good grief Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted March 7, 2018 Oh, I thought Tillerson was Trumps SOS. Never mind. Good grief >>A major oil exploration project between Exxon Mobil and a Russian government-owned oil company will be abandoned by Exxon after United States government sanctions prevented the venture from expanding and waivers for the project were denied.<< The value of this project alone was huge. HTH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,893 Posted March 7, 2018 Remember when Don said Bubba was abusive to women and that was fair game? Now we find out he sticks it in porn stars and pays them off so his wife doesnt find out. Total POS. Sad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted March 7, 2018 Remember when Don said Bubba was abusive to women and that was fair game? Now we find out he sticks it in porn stars and pays them off so his wife doesnt find out. Total POS. Sad! Pretty sure Bubba and Don see this issue the same way. http://www.tennisnow.com/images/2016/November/TrumpClinton.aspx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted March 7, 2018 Regardless of party, caring about this shiot became obsolete the second Clinton got a pass on all the shiot that he did. Psst. He got impeached. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted March 7, 2018 Psst. He got impeached. And what came of that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted March 7, 2018 Clinton was impeached, that's not exactly a free pass. And what came of that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted March 7, 2018 And what came of that? Disbarment, $800,000 settlement, his wife's two presidential runs severely damaged, millions in legal fees, permanently ruined reputation, and millions of Republicans who hate him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,039 Posted March 7, 2018 Disbarment, $800,000 settlement, his wife's two presidential runs severely damaged, millions in legal fees, permanently ruined reputation, and millions of Republicans who hate him. + 33% of second term wasted, but other than all that, pretty much a free pass. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,657 Posted March 7, 2018 And what came of that? Not much. Rich beyond his wildest dreams, tons more poontang. Got his "charity" to pay for his daughters wedding, wife became a senator and SOS, his friends paid his 800k settlement. He did ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,893 Posted March 7, 2018 Disbarment, $800,000 settlement, his wife's two presidential runs severely damaged, millions in legal fees, permanently ruined reputation, and millions of Republicans who hate him.Best president of our lifetime according to some. Clinton Bush the elder L B J Nixon Obama Reagan Carter Ford Bush the Dumber Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted March 7, 2018 And what came of that?20 years of righties bitching and moaning about Clintons? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted March 7, 2018 Disbarment, $800,000 settlement, his wife's two presidential runs severely damaged, millions in legal fees, permanently ruined reputation, and millions of Republicans who hate him. Thanks. I guess I should have said "Politically, what came of that?" which was basically nothing. Not trolling here, honestly. Bill Clinton had a long list of transgressions, etc that never seemed to affect him politically. The one point you make I would argue is his wife's presidential runs being severly damaged. I would think Bill's transgressions (in and of themselves) are about 20th on the list of things that affected Hillary's chances. Also, weren't his legal fees covered by donor's or some sort of fund? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,039 Posted March 7, 2018 Thanks. I guess I should have said "Politically, what came of that?" which was basically nothing. Not trolling here, honestly. Bill Clinton had a long list of transgressions, etc that never seemed to affect him politically. The one point you make I would argue is his wife's presidential runs being severly damaged. I would think Bill's transgressions (in and of themselves) are about 20th on the list of things that affected Hillary's chances. Also, weren't his legal fees covered by donor's or some sort of fund? You are right, he never got that third term he was seeking. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted March 7, 2018 Thanks. I guess I should have said "Politically, what came of that?" which was basically nothing. Not trolling here, honestly. Bill Clinton had a long list of transgressions, etc that never seemed to affect him politically. The one point you make I would argue is his wife's presidential runs being severly damaged. I would think Bill's transgressions (in and of themselves) are about 20th on the list of things that affected Hillary's chances. Also, weren't his legal fees covered by donor's or some sort of fund? I'm not sure who paid the settlement, but it's not as if the Clintons got a free ride, they did spend out a lot in that lawsuit and investigation. Personally to me I think the main thing was how much the scandal left a burning pyre of disgust on the part of conservatives. I don't think it's unfair to say Trump is surpassing Bill Clinton's deeds with this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,657 Posted March 7, 2018 I'm not sure who paid the settlement, but it's not as if the Clintons got a free ride, they did spend out a lot in that lawsuit and investigation. Personally to me I think the main thing was how much the scandal left a burning pyre of disgust on the part of conservatives. I don't think it's unfair to say Trump is surpassing Bill Clinton's deeds with this one. Everyone knows who paid that settlement. Denise Rich. The wife of the guy who Clinton pardoned on his last day in office, financier Mark Rich. Slimeballs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
parrot 789 Posted March 7, 2018 Ms. Clifford was referred to by the alias 'Peggy Peterson' or 'PP.' Mr. Trump, on the other hand, was referred to by the alias 'David Dennison' or 'DD.' ” I'm no lawyer, but shouldn't Trump be the pee-pee and Daniels the double-D's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted March 7, 2018 Everyone knows who paid that settlement. Denise Rich. The wife of the guy who Clinton pardoned on his last day in office, financier Mark Rich. Slimeballs. That's interesting. Clinton paid Jones directly and in full public view. Cohen created a shell corporation to pay Daniels secretly. Which seems a whole level shadier IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,657 Posted March 7, 2018 That's interesting. Clinton paid Jones directly and in full public view. Cohen created a shell corporation to pay Daniels secretly. Which seems a whole level shadier IMO. Like he had a choice. The whole world knew about Paula. He's so noble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,979 Posted March 7, 2018 I'm not sure who paid the settlement, but it's not as if the Clintons got a free ride, they did spend out a lot in that lawsuit and investigation. . Probably why they were so broke when they left the White House they had to steal the furniture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 7, 2018 Well specifically, oil and gas sanctions alone might be worth $1 trillion. "the 80s are calling...." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted March 8, 2018 "the 80s are calling...." Romney was right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted March 8, 2018 Like he had a choice. The whole world knew about Paula. He's so noble. Clinton's not noble. Far from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted March 8, 2018 Probably why they were so broke when they left the White House they had to steal the furniture. I don't think they were broke but they did shell out for legal expenses. Trump has a legal defense fund now too and he has loads more than Clinton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted March 8, 2018 Not much. Rich beyond his wildest dreams, tons more poontang. Got his "charity" to pay for his daughters wedding, wife became a senator and SOS, his friends paid his 800k settlement. He did ok.This is how I see it too. She became Senator and SOS because of her name. The presidential elections were mostly because of her name, and what wasnt the name, was because she was a woman. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted March 8, 2018 no coincidence that they are doing a special on Gary Hart this weekend. Will be most interesting to see some of the most strident voices against adultery and 4 a pure heart in the White House to be the same ones most stridently supporting Donald Trump these days. Calling Mr Gingrich... Who was actually cheating on his wife at the same time that he was pursuing the Linda Tripp story Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,645 Posted March 8, 2018 Whoops. Trumps pissed at Sarah manatee Sanders for admitting there is an NDA. It is literally a full-time job and then some keeping all the lies straight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 9, 2018 Whoops. Trumps pissed at Sarah manatee Sanders for admitting there is an NDA. It is literally a full-time job and then some keeping all the lies straight. guess where that full time job is at ? The focking white house mofo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SenatorRock 708 Posted March 9, 2018 You know the left is in bad shape when the best thing they have going is a decade old indiscretion by a private citizen that was 100% legal. Muh Russia! Muh collusion! Muh Paris Accord! Muh tax breaks! Muh net neutrality! Muh nuclear war with NoKo! Muh trade wars! Muh Twitter trolls! Muh decade old charges against Manafort! Muh soy! Muh evangelicals aren't outraged enough about Trump getting laid! Trump did lie about one thing. I will never get tired of so much winning! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sho Nuff 719 Posted March 9, 2018 Cohen used his TrumpOrg email during the transfer. How focking stupid can he be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted March 9, 2018 Cohen used his TrumpOrg email during the transfer. How focking stupid can he be? a hammer and a little bleach bit awtta fix dat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,383 Posted March 10, 2018 a hammer and a little bleach bit awtta fix dat. And two in the back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,657 Posted March 10, 2018 And two in the back. Seth Rich style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,979 Posted March 10, 2018 I don't think they were broke but they did shell out for legal expenses. Trump has a legal defense fund now too and he has loads more than Clinton. You calling the Clinton's liars? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
