Cloaca du jour 2,094 Posted April 23, 2018 How long till our ISPs screw us over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,632 Posted April 23, 2018 We'll see how bad it is Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted April 23, 2018 We'll see how bad it is Dude. We live in china. Net neutrality is hardly our biggest online problem. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,690 Posted April 23, 2018 it will have exactly zero change Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,475 Posted April 23, 2018 it will have exactly zero change I am almost 100% sure youre wrong. The changes will take place over time but in 5 years your post will be eminently laughable is my guess Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,690 Posted April 23, 2018 I am almost 100% sure youre wrong. The changes will take place over time but in 5 years your post will be eminently laughable is my guess and what do you think will happen a company like "Sprint" will provide unlimited everything all you have to do is watch the cellular trends, its better now than it was 10 years ago its ok though Y2K is going to crash the world Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,632 Posted April 23, 2018 Dude. We live in china. Net neutrality is hardly our biggest online problem. Well, we're blocked from seeing youtube without a VPN, we don't need it slowing down even further. Nor the crap we download already taking so long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 23, 2018 I am almost 100% sure youre wrong. The changes will take place over time but in 5 years your post will be eminently laughable is my guess This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 4,632 Posted April 23, 2018 Somebody needs to do with this thread what I did to RLLD's Hyperinflation is Coming thread (until Ray deleted it) and give it a bump every month for five years to see what happens with net neutrality. In the original thread, I told Ray that his hyperinflation theory was utterly absurd. That I'd give him ten years for hyperinflation to come before I declared victory. Unfortunatly, he deleted Hyperinflation is Coming after I was bumping it each month for a few years but my funeral services for the thread remain. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=441005 We're now a month past eight years. So if no hyperinflation arrives in the next 23 months, I'll fell safe declaring victory. If it does, maybe he'll return and start posting again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted April 23, 2018 Anyone who thinks the internet companies lobbied (bribed) congress so hard for something that will have no negative impact on the consumer is naive. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,094 Posted April 23, 2018 Right now everyone is watching closely.... isps probably wont do too much. I give em a year before any bombs are dropped Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted April 23, 2018 Right now everyone is watching closely.... isps probably wont do too much. I give em a year before any bombs are dropped Id be selling Netflix stock if I had any. Wont happen immediately, but theyre gonna get throttled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,654 Posted April 23, 2018 Anyone who thinks the internet companies lobbied (bribed) congress so hard for something that will have no negative impact on the consumer is naive. This was my thought. We know this was passed because ISPs lobbied their asses off, which means lots of money was spent. Now they are just going to keep it business as usual? What was the damn point of changing the bill then? There is zero positivity coming from this for consumers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
penultimatestraw 473 Posted April 23, 2018 Somebody needs to do with this thread what I did to RLLD's Hyperinflation is Coming thread (until Ray deleted it) and give it a bump every month for five years to see what happens with net neutrality. In the original thread, I told Ray that his hyperinflation theory was utterly absurd. That I'd give him ten years for hyperinflation to come before I declared victory. Unfortunatly, he deleted Hyperinflation is Coming after I was bumping it each month for a few years but my funeral services for the thread remain. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=441005 We're now a month past eight years. So if no hyperinflation arrives in the next 23 months, I'll fell safe declaring victory. If it does, maybe he'll return and start posting again. I agree, but hardly anyone thinks ending net neutrality is inconsequential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,784 Posted April 23, 2018 We should all band together and pool our money and start our own ISP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,474 Posted April 23, 2018 Good now companies can expand and be created without government restrictions. It was barrier of entry. That's why the big corps liked it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,512 Posted April 23, 2018 Obama-era “Net Neutrality” allow Google, Facebook, Twitter censorship Those arguing for the repeal of the Obama-era “Net Neutrality” rules argue Pai’s campaign to end Title II regulation of the Internet is a “noble cause” – a move that does not “kill net neutrality,” but rather reverses the unprecedented power grab of the Obama-era FCC in conjunction with the tech left forces in Silicon Valley, Soros’s Open Society Foundation, and the Ford Foundation. Trump supporters backing Pai note the Internet’s growth, explosive innovation, and flow of free expression occurred free from public utility regulation. Ironically, since the 2015 rules were put in place, instances of blocking and censoring have only occurred at a rapid pace on platforms owned by Facebook, Google, and Twitter, which all lobbied hard for the 2015 “Net Neutrality” rules, which were carefully crafted so as to not touch those companies. https://www.infowars.com/fcc-to-free-internet-from-obamas-net-neutrality-rules/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,081 Posted April 23, 2018 Is this thing on? Tap tap tap... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,784 Posted April 23, 2018 All your internet are belongs to us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted April 23, 2018 Pretty sure we didnt have internet neutrality for years and things were fine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,512 Posted April 23, 2018 Pretty sure we didnt have internet neutrality for years and things were fine Obama made the power grab in 2015. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,690 Posted April 23, 2018 omg my internet bill is now 14,000$ a month and they are throttling me back to using dial-up 2400 baud Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,475 Posted April 23, 2018 Somebody needs to do with this thread what I did to RLLD's Hyperinflation is Coming thread (until Ray deleted it) and give it a bump every month for five years to see what happens with net neutrality. In the original thread, I told Ray that his hyperinflation theory was utterly absurd. That I'd give him ten years for hyperinflation to come before I declared victory. Unfortunatly, he deleted Hyperinflation is Coming after I was bumping it each month for a few years but my funeral services for the thread remain. http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=441005 We're now a month past eight years. So if no hyperinflation arrives in the next 23 months, I'll fell safe declaring victory. If it does, maybe he'll return and start posting again. You ran him off the bored. So obviously this is a good idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 919 Posted August 16, 2018 Huge surprise. ISP's are looking for government hand-outs, because broadband is an essential utility, like electricity, gas and water. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/isps-want-to-be-utilities-but-only-to-get-more-money-from-the-government/ Broadband lobby groups are arguing that Internet service is similar to utilities such as electricity, gas distribution, roads, and water and sewer networks. In the providers' view, the essential nature of broadband doesn't require more regulation to protect consumers. Instead, they argue that broadband's utility-like status is reason for the government to give ISPs more money. That's the argument made by trade groups USTelecom and NTCA—The Rural Broadband Association. USTelecom represents telcos including AT&T, Verizon, and CenturyLink, while NTCA represents nearly 850 small ISPs. "Like electricity, broadband is essential to every American," USTelecom CEO Jonathan Spalter and NTCA CEO Shirley Bloomfield wrote Monday in an op-ed for The Topeka Capital-Journal. "Yet US broadband infrastructure has been financed largely by the private sector without assurance that such costs can be recovered through increased consumer rates." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted August 16, 2018 Have any of us ever seen a simple list of what it means exactly one way or the other? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,474 Posted August 16, 2018 Huge surprise. ISP's are looking for government hand-outs, because broadband is an essential utility, like electricity, gas and water. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/isps-want-to-be-utilities-but-only-to-get-more-money-from-the-government/ Broadband lobby groups are arguing that Internet service is similar to utilities such as electricity, gas distribution, roads, and water and sewer networks. In the providers' view, the essential nature of broadband doesn't require more regulation to protect consumers. Instead, they argue that broadband's utility-like status is reason for the government to give ISPs more money. That's the argument made by trade groups USTelecom and NTCAThe Rural Broadband Association. USTelecom represents telcos including AT&T, Verizon, and CenturyLink, while NTCA represents nearly 850 small ISPs. "Like electricity, broadband is essential to every American," USTelecom CEO Jonathan Spalter and NTCA CEO Shirley Bloomfield wrote Monday in an op-ed for The Topeka Capital-Journal. "Yet US broadband infrastructure has been financed largely by the private sector without assurance that such costs can be recovered through increased consumer rates." Liberals really pushed hard to make the internet a public utility. They thought it would protect the badly worded net nutrality. They got it and of course failed to see the next step which is this. This is why liberals make terrible leaders. Everything they do is about feelings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 919 Posted August 16, 2018 Liberals really pushed hard to make the internet a public utility. They thought it would protect the badly worded net nutrality. They got it and of course failed to see the next step which is this. This is why liberals make terrible leaders. Everything they do is about feelings. This is fallout from after net-neutrality was repealed. It isnt a partisan issue. These corps want the advantages of being a public utility while still being able to gouge customers. Stay in your lane, because you have no idea what the fock youre talking about here. I realize your lane is pretty narrow, but surely you can find a thread to barf your clueless vitrol somewhere on the front page. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,474 Posted August 17, 2018 This is fallout from after net-neutrality was repealed. It isnt a partisan issue. These corps want the advantages of being a public utility while still being able to gouge customers. Stay in your lane, because you have no idea what the fock youre talking about here. I realize your lane is pretty narrow, but surely you can find a thread to barf your clueless vitrol somewhere on the front page. It absolutely is a partisan issue. Liberals pushed for it. Conservatives where like meh the internet has been fine since the beginning. Look I don't like politics in every thread but these clearly is political. Hell all you have to do is look at your local government and see how they are bought out by whatever provider has a monopoly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 919 Posted August 17, 2018 It absolutely is a partisan issue. Liberals pushed for it. Conservatives where like meh the internet has been fine since the beginning. Look I don't like politics in every thread but these clearly is political. Hell all you have to do is look at your local government and see how they are bought out by whatever provider has a monopoly. What exactly makes this political? Do you think electricity, sewage, water etc should be owned and operated by the private sector? Do you think your bandwidth should be throttled based on what websites, streaming services, etc. you use? Do you want to subsidize corporations that are already making record profits and paying historically low taxes? Who pays for and manages the infrastructure? The tax payer twice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,512 Posted December 19, 2018 A year after net neutrality's demise, the Internet is faster They said we would be neanderthals by now, savages scraping ourselves with pieces of broken pottery every time our cat videos wouldn’t buffer. But the Internet apocalypse hasn’t happened. It has been remarkably unremarkable without net neutrality, one year after Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai killed the Obama-era Internet rule that required service providers to treat each piece of content identically. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/a-year-after-net-neutralitys-demise-the-internet-is-faster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,094 Posted December 19, 2018 A year after net neutrality's demise, the Internet is faster They said we would be neanderthals by now, savages scraping ourselves with pieces of broken pottery every time our cat videos wouldnt buffer. But the Internet apocalypse hasnt happened. It has been remarkably unremarkable without net neutrality, one year after Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai killed the Obama-era Internet rule that required service providers to treat each piece of content identically. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/a-year-after-net-neutralitys-demise-the-internet-is-faster Takes time to figure out hownto screw us. All they had to do was eliminate the monopoly comcrap and cox and time warner who have the country divided up into sections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mobb_deep 919 Posted December 19, 2018 Phurfur is such a Trump parrot. Even if it goes against his core values, like the BS bump stock ban in the news today. The hackiest of orange hacks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted December 19, 2018 Takes time to figure out hownto screw us. All they had to do was eliminate the monopoly comcrap and cox and time warner who have the country divided up into sections. According to liberals they already had a way to screw us. It hasnt happened so Im chalking it up to them being retards again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 379 Posted December 19, 2018 A year after net neutrality's demise, the Internet is faster They said we would be neanderthals by now, savages scraping ourselves with pieces of broken pottery every time our cat videos wouldn’t buffer. But the Internet apocalypse hasn’t happened. It has been remarkably unremarkable without net neutrality, one year after Federal Communications Commission Chairman Ajit Pai killed the Obama-era Internet rule that required service providers to treat each piece of content identically. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/a-year-after-net-neutralitys-demise-the-internet-is-faster You're saying the internet is faster because of net neutrality?? :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,320 Posted December 19, 2018 You're saying the internet is faster because of net neutrality?? :lol: https://www.pcmag.com/news/365444/us-fixed-broadband-speeding-up-especially-for-downloads Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 379 Posted December 19, 2018 https://www.pcmag.com/news/365444/us-fixed-broadband-speeding-up-especially-for-downloads I don't see net neutrality mentioned in your link. Pretty sure internet speeds have been getting faster and faster over the last couple of decades. i.e. faster in 2018 than 2014 than 2010 etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,512 Posted December 19, 2018 You're saying the internet is faster because of net neutrality?? :lol: I didn’t say anything, what is your problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 379 Posted December 19, 2018 I didn’t say anything, what is your problem? Yes, that's my bad. I forgot you're incapable of independent thought. Bye bye now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,474 Posted December 19, 2018 Turns out this was another boogie man from liberals. The less government involved with the internet the better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,512 Posted December 19, 2018 Yes, that's my bad. I forgot you're incapable of independent thought. Bye bye now It must suck to be shot down by a guy incapable of independent thought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites