Fears of a second civil war grow among democrat & republican pundits

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

I never said I think it’s going to happen, I said I think it needs to. I support it. The left wants it more than we do. It’s very clear their motive is to bring down the US and your party is directly attacking the traditions I hold dear to my heart. 

No doubt at all.  It's not even debatable at this point. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

I never said I think it’s going to happen, I said I think it needs to. I support it. The left wants it more than we do. It’s very clear their motive is to bring down the US and your party is directly attacking the traditions I hold dear to my heart. 

My party?  I think political parties are stupid and that's why I don't belong to one.

I don't think either party seriously wants to have a civil war, just a select group of extremists from both sides do.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

My party?  I think political parties are stupid and that's why I don't belong to one.

I don't think either party seriously wants to have a civil war, just a select group of extremists from both sides do.

You’re 100% lib 

I disagree, normal people are starting to get pissed off now. You all are taking it way to far.  Your side is disgusting and directly responsible for why things the way they are 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

You’re 100% lib 

I disagree, normal people are starting to get pissed off now. You all are taking it way to far. 

Go ahead and think what you want.  You still think I'm someone else's alias so I don't hold your opinion in high regard at this time.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130]

2 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

You’re 100% lib 

I disagree, normal people are starting to get pissed off now. You all are taking it way to far.  Your side is disgusting and directly responsible for why things the way they are 

That's the plan.  The left is stoking the fires and creating mob violence (antifa, occupy wall street, etc...) and when someone on the right finally says "Enough!" - then call THEM the extremists and play the "What? What did I do?  Poor little me." game.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Go ahead and think what you want.  You still think I'm someone else's alias so I don't hold your opinion in high regard at this time.

Okay then don’t quote me ez fix sport 

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

That's the plan.  The left is stoking the fires and creating mob violence (antifa, occupy wall street, etc...) and when someone on the right finally says "Enough!" - then call THEM the extremists and play the "What? What did I do?  Poor little me." game.

Yep. They have men winning in women’s sports, gender reassignment on children, post birth abortion, reparations and mass immigration, the list goes on and on. They won’t even let our election function properly and let us have our guy for 4 focking years. They need to get curb stomped. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

Okay then don’t quote me ez fix sport 

I'm also not just going to let you say false things about me either.  I'll correct you when I think you're wrong.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130]

3 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Yep. They have men winning in women’s sports, gender reassignment on children, post birth abortion, reparations and mass immigration, the list goes on and on. They won’t even let our election function properly and let us have our guy for 4 focking years. They need to get curb stomped. 

Remember when the Left and Hillary were all aghast that Trump SUPPOSEDLY wouldn't honor the election results if he lost?  It was hysteria 24/7 for at least a week over that.  Good times. 

Look at the left now.  Doing exactly what they thought DJT was going to do.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I'm also not just going to let you say false things about me either.  I'll correct you when I think you're wrong.

Shut up and make me a sandwich 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, iam90sbaby said:

Shut up and make me a sandwich 

You want me to make you a sandwich?  I'd love to make you a sandwich.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

You want me to make you a sandwich?  I'd love to make you a sandwich.

Cool. Black Forest ham, lettuce, tomato (thin slices), light on the mayo, mustard and toast the bread. Cut the crust off to please and make it snappy because I’m hungry 

[Baker Boy 1,703]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Remember when the Left and Hillary were all aghast that Trump SUPPOSEDLY wouldn't honor the election results if he lost?  It was hysteria 24/7 for at least a week over that.  Good times. 

Look at the left now.  Doing exactly what they thought DJT was going to do.

Remember when the Left was outraged when Trump said “Grab them by the ” 10years before he ran for President but stood behind Bill Clinton 100% when he actually did grab and much more in the Oval Office.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

10 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Cool. Black Forest ham, lettuce, tomato (thin slices), light on the mayo, mustard and toast the bread. Cut the crust off to please and make it snappy because I’m hungry 

That actually sounds pretty good. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

11 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Remember when the Left was outraged when Trump said “Grab them by the ” 10years before he ran for President but stood behind Bill Clinton 100% when he actually did grab and much more in the Oval Office.

Are those really that comparable?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

Are those really that comparable?

Uhm....yeah.  Did you really ask that?

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Uhm....yeah.  Did you really ask that?

Please explain. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Please explain. 

Did you really ask if they are comparable?  Like you didn't know if they were?

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Did you really ask if they are comparable?  Like you didn't know if they were?

How does he not remind you of Sho srsly?

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Did you really ask if they are comparable?  Like you didn't know if they were?

Maybe I’m not remembering everything with Bill since I was pretty young then. What did he all do?  I remember him and Monica but wasn’t that more consensual?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Maybe I’m not remembering everything with Bill since I was pretty young then. What did he all do?  I remember him and Monica but wasn’t that more consensual?

So a boss - employee relationship is consensual?  Because everything we hear from the left (hello Feminism!  hello #metoo!) says it's sexual harassment.  Or do you mean it's only consensual for Democrats?

Kind of like how you're excusing Katie Hill too.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

So a boss - employee relationship is consensual?  Because everything we hear from the left (hello Feminism!  hello #metoo!) says it's sexual harassment?  Or do you mean it's only consensual for Democrats?

Just for one second just try having a discussion without showing extreme bias. 

I completely agree what Clinton did was wrong. I feel it’s different than what Trump claims he did to women and what women claim he did to them. Trump was basically talking about assaulting/raping women. 

To me this has nothing to do Republicans or Democrats. It has to do with what was actually worse. If Clinton was forcing himself on women without them wanting him to, then it’s comparable and I agree with you. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

50 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

You’re 100% lib 

I disagree, normal people are starting to get pissed off now. You all are taking it way to far.  Your side is disgusting and directly responsible for why things the way they are 

Absofuckinlutely. Many people are getting fed up with the tantrums and the attacks on our country. 

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22 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

How does he not remind you of Sho srsly?

He isn’t Sho but acts like him which isn’t a good quality.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,130]

29 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

How does he not remind you of Sho srsly?

He really doesn't. Shotard is on a whole other level.  Hawkeye is the epitome of sound, logical opinions compared to Shotard.

Besides, Hawkeye isn't asking for a link to back up every single word in your post.   Like, not a link to backup your whole assertion, but links to back up individual words and sentences.  That's the first clue. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,506]

I won't participate in a civil war, but I will aggressively protect mine. And I will support the forces on the right and not judge them for any violence they take part in against the left. 

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1 hour ago, iam90sbaby said:

You’re 100% lib 

I disagree, normal people are starting to get pissed off now. You all are taking it way to far.  Your side is disgusting and directly responsible for why things the way they are 

I can only speak for my area but living in the heart of the Midwest I'm surrounded but a bunch of good ole boys who are getting fed up and more than ready willing and able.

I mean I live 30 minutes from the town where the townspeople had had enough of a town bully and shot him dead in broad daylight.

I realize that may not be considered normal but as they say when push comes to shove.

[Baker Boy 1,703]

14 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Maybe I’m not remembering everything with Bill since I was pretty young then. What did he all do?  I remember him and Monica but wasn’t that more consensual?

Who did Trump grab?

in any normal workplace situation Clinton would have been fired.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

12 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Who did Trump grab?

in any normal workplace situation Clinton would have been fired.

He admitted to doing it but some construe it as "locker room" talk.  There are also a lot of accusations against him for sexual assault.

None of this is in defense of Clinton.  What he did was also wrong.

[RLLD 4,254]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He admitted to doing it but some construe it as "locker room" talk.  There are also a lot of accusations against him for sexual assault.

None of this is in defense of Clinton.  What he did was also wrong.

The Clinton impeachment was disgusting, just focking stupid.....this one is slightly less stupid, but still focking stupid as well....

[Cdub100 3,929]

I don't subsribe to a civil war happening but here's Tim Pools thoughts.

 

 

[RLLD 4,254]

Democrats will be hunted 

Could they project ANY FOCKING more.....

I mean, Dem/leftists/liberals have already been "hunting" for years now, yet they want to project that behavior on others????  C'mon man....

[TBayXXXVII 2,552]

3 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

He admitted to doing it but some construe it as "locker room" talk.  There are also a lot of accusations against him for sexual assault.

None of this is in defense of Clinton.  What he did was also wrong.

Trump's exact quote: "I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the . You can do anything."

That embolden, underlined, italicized part... that's "consensual".  Meaning, it wasn't rape, assault, or harassment.

 

Aside from Lewinsky, there were multiple women, such as Paula Jones, who came out and said that Bill sexually harassed her.  Bill paid her and her lawyers over $800k to drop the suit.  How many women who claimed Trump sexually harassed them, got paid off?  There was much ado about nothing with Daniel's case.  We know that was consensual.  The issue there was how she paid to keep the act quiet... not that it was forced.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

2 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

I don't subsribe to a civil war happening but here's Tim Pools thoughts.

 

 

I think there are a lot of young people completely numb to political violence, specifically on the left. Combine that with everything else going on and you have a recipe for disaster. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

We got some fresh polling data on civil war a few weeks ago courtesy of Georgetown University.  I am sure that had I posted this on a liberal forum, I would somehow be told that Georgetown is not a legit source or they would ignore my source and ask me a billion times to name my sources.  But, here it is.  

http://politics.georgetown.edu/press-releases/civility-press-release-oct-2019/

the average voter believes the U.S. is two-thirds of the way to the edge of a civil war. On a 0-100 scale with 100 being “edge of a civil war,” the mean response is 67.23.

Voters also seem to disagree on the source of the incivility. Majorities of Republicans say Democratic political leaders, social media, large newspapers, CNN, and MSNBC are very responsible for our political division. Meanwhile, majorities of Democrats say Republican political leaders, social media, Fox News, wealthy special interests, and President Trump are very responsible. Independents single out just two actors as very responsible for divisive political discourse – social media and President Trump.

“Our Civility Poll finds that eighty percent of voters say that they both demand compromise from political leaders, but want political leaders who will stand up to the other side. That creates mixed messages for even the most skilled political leader trying to decide whether to be a fighter or a dealmaker,” said Mo Elleithee, Executive Director of the Georgetown Institute of Politics and Public Service.

But the takeaway here is that, despite people scoffing at the notion of civil war on internet forums, the average voter sees civil war as very close and a very real possibility.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

10 minutes ago, riversco said:

We got some fresh polling data on civil war a few weeks ago courtesy of Georgetown University.  I am sure that had I posted this on a liberal forum, I would somehow be told that Georgetown is not a legit source or they would ignore my source and ask me a billion times to name my sources.  But, here it is.  

http://politics.georgetown.edu/press-releases/civility-press-release-oct-2019/

the average voter believes the U.S. is two-thirds of the way to the edge of a civil war. On a 0-100 scale with 100 being “edge of a civil war,” the mean response is 67.23.

Voters also seem to disagree on the source of the incivility. Majorities of Republicans say Democratic political leaders, social media, large newspapers, CNN, and MSNBC are very responsible for our political division. Meanwhile, majorities of Democrats say Republican political leaders, social media, Fox News, wealthy special interests, and President Trump are very responsible. Independents single out just two actors as very responsible for divisive political discourse – social media and President Trump.

“Our Civility Poll finds that eighty percent of voters say that they both demand compromise from political leaders, but want political leaders who will stand up to the other side. That creates mixed messages for even the most skilled political leader trying to decide whether to be a fighter or a dealmaker,” said Mo Elleithee, Executive Director of the Georgetown Institute of Politics and Public Service.

But the takeaway here is that, despite people scoffing at the notion of civil war on internet forums, the average voter sees civil war as very close and a very real possibility.

Groypers vs Antifa

[Baker Boy 1,703]

3 hours ago, riversco said:

We got some fresh polling data on civil war a few weeks ago courtesy of Georgetown University.  I am sure that had I posted this on a liberal forum, I would somehow be told that Georgetown is not a legit source or they would ignore my source and ask me a billion times to name my sources.  But, here it is.  

http://politics.georgetown.edu/press-releases/civility-press-release-oct-2019/

the average voter believes the U.S. is two-thirds of the way to the edge of a civil war. On a 0-100 scale with 100 being “edge of a civil war,” the mean response is 67.23.

Voters also seem to disagree on the source of the incivility. Majorities of Republicans say Democratic political leaders, social media, large newspapers, CNN, and MSNBC are very responsible for our political division. Meanwhile, majorities of Democrats say Republican political leaders, social media, Fox News, wealthy special interests, and President Trump are very responsible. Independents single out just two actors as very responsible for divisive political discourse – social media and President Trump.

“Our Civility Poll finds that eighty percent of voters say that they both demand compromise from political leaders, but want political leaders who will stand up to the other side. That creates mixed messages for even the most skilled political leader trying to decide whether to be a fighter or a dealmaker,” said Mo Elleithee, Executive Director of the Georgetown Institute of Politics and Public Service.

But the takeaway here is that, despite people scoffing at the notion of civil war on internet forums, the average voter sees civil war as very close and a very real possibility.

How many times are you going to bump your own thread? There it’s not going to be a Civil War. The left are a bunch of cowards and the right has too much to lose.

[Herbivore 1,138]

3 hours ago, iam90sbaby said:

Groypers vs Antifa

2 marginal groups of losers isnt a civil war

[drobeski 3,061]

On 10/24/2019 at 6:18 PM, Hawkeye21 said:

Are those really that comparable?

No, Bill was far more disgraceful.  

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