TimHauck 2,933 Posted May 11, 2021 25 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Actually I think most “people” do just stay away. I agree it seems counterproductive to confront them and thus make your exposure to them longer than it needs to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Actually I think most “people” do just stay away. I agree it seems counterproductive to confront them and thus make your exposure to them longer than it needs to be. Yep, they are crapping their pants. You can see that fear in their eyes when they have to get within 10 feet. And it's never going away. That fear was always there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,936 Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, TimmySmith said: Yep, they are crapping their pants. You can see that fear in their eyes when they have to get within 10 feet. And it's never going away. That fear was always there. Good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 11, 2021 Common sense to most folks but, wearing a mask outdoors is as massive waste of time. The charade that is wearing a mask outdoors needs to stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, Reality said: Common sense to most folks but, wearing a mask outdoors is as massive waste of time. The charade that is wearing a mask outdoors needs to stop. She also says vaccing kids is a sham. We all know this, but it will make botcauck's haid splode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted May 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, Reality said: Common sense to most folks but, wearing a mask outdoors is as massive waste of time. The charade that is wearing a mask outdoors needs to stop. That tweet is from a woman of color doctor. To disagree with her makes you both RACISS and MISOGYNISTIC. Why do people keep listening to that WHITE MAN Fauci??? Tear down the patriarchy!!!! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,933 Posted May 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: She also says vaccing kids is a sham. We all know this, but it will make botcauck's haid splode. I'm all for no masks outside and have said kids shouldn't have to take the vaccine, but carry on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: She also says vaccing kids is a sham. We all know this, but it will make botcauck's haid splode. Anybody giving a vaccine to a kid under 18 needs their head examined. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,933 Posted May 11, 2021 23 minutes ago, Reality said: Anybody giving a vaccine to a kid under 18 needs their head examined. I wouldn't go that far, or would maybe agree if you changed 18 to about 12, but as I said above they shouldn't have to take it. Speaking of, Pfizer's was just authorized for 12-15, so this could get interesting: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/05/10/993591902/hold-fda-oks-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-for-12-15-age-group Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted May 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, Reality said: Anybody giving a vaccine to a kid under 18 needs their head examined. Even the fatties at that age should be able to survive. I'm talking the 3 bill fatties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 11, 2021 Look how many lies are in these headlines. The FDA did not approve anything. fda apprvoed - Bing News Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 11, 2021 20 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I wouldn't go that far, or would maybe agree if you changed 18 to about 12, but as I said above they shouldn't have to take it. Speaking of, Pfizer's was just authorized for 12-15, so this could get interesting: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/05/10/993591902/hold-fda-oks-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-for-12-15-age-group Disagree, number of "Covid Deaths" under 18 is so statistically insignificant it's not worth the risk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Reality said: Disagree, number of "Covid Deaths" under 18 is so statistically insignificant it's not worth the risk. The UNKNOWN risk, to a child. For no good reason. Only a sicko would get a healthy 12 year old the vaccine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,933 Posted May 11, 2021 9 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Look how many lies are in these headlines. The FDA did not approve anything. fda apprvoed - Bing News yeah, not good reporting there. Fox News just says it got the "green light" - https://www.foxnews.com/health/fda-covid-pfizer-vaccine-green-light-kids-12-15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,933 Posted May 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Reality said: Disagree, number of "Covid Deaths" under 18 is so statistically insignificant it's not worth the risk. Maybe, but "not worth the risk" is different than "need your head examined." For them it'd be more about contributing to help stop the spread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Maybe, but "not worth the risk" is different than "need your head examined." For them it'd be more about contributing to help stop the spread. Yup, not worth it. Have people who are at risk vaccinated. Pretty simple stuff. We used to have common sense when it came to this sort of thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: yeah, not good reporting there. Fox News just says it got the "green light" - https://www.foxnews.com/health/fda-covid-pfizer-vaccine-green-light-kids-12-15 I saw someone say "ok'ed", which I guess works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted May 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: The UNKNOWN risk, to a child. For no good reason. Only a sicko would get a healthy 12 year old the vaccine. this. both my kids tested positive...one had nothing ,didn't even know she had it. other had slight fever for 2 hours maybe wtf are we doing?????? it is now the flu...nothing more, maybe less...those scared and/or at risk get the vaccine, wear your X # of masks and leave the rest of us the fock alone. insanity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: For them it'd be more about contributing to help stop the spread. So you would give your child the vaccine so, on the off chance they get infected, that they might spread it to someone else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,933 Posted May 11, 2021 I probably wouldn't if they were under 13. 14 and older I'd let them make their own decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I probably wouldn't if they were under 13. 14 and older I'd let them make their own decision. You would let a 14 year old make up their own mind on getting a shot or not? If a parent isn't telling them why they will not get one, then that is child abuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted May 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I probably wouldn't if they were under 13. 14 and older I'd let them make their own decision. What would they base their decision on? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted May 11, 2021 41 minutes ago, Fireballer said: What would they base their decision on? He doesn’t have kids obviously. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted May 11, 2021 55 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I probably wouldn't if they were under 13. 14 and older I'd let them make their own decision. that bigly maturing year from 13 to 14 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 11, 2021 58 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I probably wouldn't if they were under 13. 14 and older I'd let them make their own decision. Jesus... 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He doesn’t have kids obviously. No doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,933 Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Utilit99 said: You would let a 14 year old make up their own mind on getting a shot or not? Yes. 1 hour ago, Fireballer said: What would they base their decision on? I don't know. At that point they'd be in high school so I think they'd be able to make an educated decision on something like this. If they asked for my opinion, I'd say they're not really at risk from the disease, but it would reduce the potential risk of spreading it to someone else. And while getting a serious reaction to the vaccine is possible, it is still less likely than getting a serious reaction to covid. 20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He doesn’t have kids obviously. I have 3, but they're all under 6. No, I don't know if that's exactly what I'd do if they were older, but that's what I'd like to think I'd do. 18 minutes ago, porkbutt said: that bigly maturing year from 13 to 14 I drew the line at 14 since they'd be in high school. At that point yes I think they could make their own decision on something like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted May 11, 2021 As an incentive, the Biden Administration has announced that kids under 14 that get vacinnated are eligible for free gender reassignment surgery!!! No parental permission is required! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: Yes. I don't know. At that point they'd be in high school so I think they'd be able to make an educated decision on something like this. If they asked for my opinion, I'd say they're not really at risk from the disease, but it would reduce the potential risk of spreading it to someone else. And while getting a serious reaction to the vaccine is possible, it is still less likely than getting a serious reaction to covid. I have 3, but they're all under 6. No, I don't know if that's exactly what I'd do if they were older, but that's what I'd like to think I'd do. I drew the line at 14 since they'd be in high school. At that point yes I think they could make their own decision on something like this. How about gender transformation surgery? What age would you give the ok? How about hormones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: I don't know. At that point they'd be in high school so I think they'd be able to make an educated decision on something like this. At 14 you think they would make an informed decision, but don't know what data they would base that on? If anything, high school is the worst time to allow a kid to make a decision on something with potentially life altering effects. Would you be OK with their decision if they became infertile as an adult? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, Fireballer said: At 14 you think they would make an informed decision, but don't know what data they would base that on? If anything, high school is the worst time to allow a kid to make a decision on something with potentially life altering effects. Would you be OK with their decision if they became infertile as an adult? I guess. He is putting the 14 years olds in a position to make every decision in their lives ready available for them at his or his wife's or the government's expense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,933 Posted May 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: How about gender transformation surgery? What age would you give the ok? How about hormones? I’d say 18 on that one. 35 minutes ago, Fireballer said: At 14 you think they would make an informed decision, but don't know what data they would base that on? If anything, high school is the worst time to allow a kid to make a decision on something with potentially life altering effects. Would you be OK with their decision if they became infertile as an adult? Clearly much of the GC isn’t using much more than unsubstantiated social media posts for their “information,” so I think a 14 year old could probably do better than that. 10 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: I guess. He is putting the 14 years olds in a position to make every decision in their lives ready available for them at his or his wife's or the government's expense. No, not every decision. Just one to take a vaccine that has proven to be overwhelmingly safe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted May 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Just one to take a vaccine that has proven to be overwhelmingly safe. Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,933 Posted May 11, 2021 35 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Wow. Got anything that says otherwise besides a few Facebook screenshots of people that took selfies after getting the vaccine and then obituaries that they “died suddenly” a month later? No, the vaccine isn’t zero risk. But neither is covid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,606 Posted May 11, 2021 Just now, TimHauck said: No, the vaccine isn’t zero risk. But neither is covid. No one chooses to get Covid. Getting a vaccine is a choice. So, your comparison fails. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,933 Posted May 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Strike said: No one chooses to get Covid. Getting a vaccine is a choice. So, your comparison fails. The vaccine is less risk than covid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,606 Posted May 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: The vaccine is less risk than covid Hacky always with the generalizations!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted May 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: The vaccine is less risk than covid So something you intentionally inject with absolutely no hints at what long term effects are, is a better gamble than something a teen might contract, and have almost a 100% chance at full recovery? Sure, OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted May 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, Fireballer said: So something you intentionally inject with absolutely no hints at what long term effects are, is a better gamble than something a teen might contract, and have almost a 100% chance at full recovery? Sure, OK. For those that are insane, yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: The vaccine is less risk than covid we have no long term data so why take the risk on a kid?????? what if in 2 years we find out it has an affect on their ability to reproduce or something? sniffles or sterilization??? why????????? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: The vaccine is less risk than covid Love these blanket statements, you have absolutely no idea if that's true in regards to children. Simply stupid to even type it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites