Coronavirus - Doomsday

[lod001 1,344]

The 'vaccinated people will have more freedoms than no vaccinated people' is a lamer attempt to con the smart people into taking the jab than the threat of the vaccine cards. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

9 minutes ago, lod001 said:

The 'vaccinated people will have more freedoms than no vaccinated people' is a lamer attempt to con the smart people into taking the jab than the threat of the vaccine cards. 

Well they're not the "smart people," but I agree that most people that aren't getting "the jab" won't be influenced by the CDC guidelines.

If anything, the change in guidance is doing the exact opposite of what it intended...it's just giving the anti-vaccine folks an excuse not to wear masks.

[TheNewGirl 1,500]

If we do get to a point where vaccines are required to go to a concert, then I think we need to make it so for ALL vaccines and schools, etc No more religious exemptions and all of that. 

Medical exemptions have to be proven; can't get vaccines because you have active cancer or whatever. There are too many people freaking out about people NOT getting covid vaxxed, but then are okay saying that >insert religious deity here< doesn't like vaccines so they can't get the DtAP or MMR. 

Make them ALL required with limited exemptions. 

[Strike 5,600]

5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

If we do get to a point where vaccines are required to go to a concert, then I think we need to make it so for ALL vaccines and schools, etc No more religious exemptions and all of that. 

Medical exemptions have to be proven; can't get vaccines because you have active cancer or whatever. There are too many people freaking out about people NOT getting covid vaxxed, but then are okay saying that >insert religious deity here< doesn't like vaccines so they can't get the DtAP or MMR. 

Make them ALL required with limited exemptions. 

I don't think this will happen.  You're already seeing some venues opening up to full capacity with no restrictions.  UFC had a full house in Texas last weekend.  As that happens more and is shown to be safe other venues will adopt the same rules.  Remember, if they want to enforce everyone needing to be vaccinated it's going to require them checking everyone coming in for it, however that might happen, which is additional cost.  Their primary concern is legal liability.  So, if anything they'll just add something to the legalese on the back of the ticket that already releases them from liability, but I doubt they'll even do that. 

[TheNewGirl 1,500]

Ah, yes, excellent point.

I can imagine, "IF you get covid here, it's because you didn't wash your filty hands, no from anything WE did." 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

25 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

If anything, the change in guidance is doing the exact opposite of what it intended...it's just giving the anti-vaccine folks an excuse not to wear masks.

   I keep hearing this from pro vax zombies that must feel bad about their decision.  Get your vax and have a nice day.  And don't come back with "I got it to save other people". You didn't. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

4 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

   I keep hearing this from pro vax zombies that must feel bad about their decision.  Get your vax and have a nice day.  And don't come back with "I got it to save other people". You didn't. 

lol wut.  It doesn't make them feel bad about their decision.   It's just that they don't appreciate giving anti vax zombies motivation to go spread covid (mostly among other unvaccinated)

[TimmySmith 2,782]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 It's just that they don't appreciate giving anti vax zombies motivation to go spread covid (mostly among other unvaccinated)

  Nope.  They are flat out angry that others aren't walking the same path because they need to be stroked about their decision.   And their biggest disappointment comes when covid isn't passed.  Otherwise they wouldn't care who gets it.  By now everyone has had their shot (no pun intended) to get it, those who haven't are willing to risk it.

[Cdub100 3,936]

Just a reminder even if masked worked (they don't) the CDC has said it provides a very very small amount of protection. Social distancing, good hygiene and or straight up avoiding people offer far more protection. Remember the cdc said covid was slowed at the very best 2% in some counties with mask use. 

It's crazy how much maskholes keep pushing this nonsense. It really has become a talisman.

[Cdub100 3,936]

35 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

  Nope.  They are flat out angry that others aren't walking the same path because they need to be stroked about their decision.   And their biggest disappointment comes when covid isn't passed.  Otherwise they wouldn't care who gets it.  By now everyone has had their shot (no pun intended) to get it, those who haven't are willing to risk it.

If maskholes truly where afraid of the unmasked they would turn and run. The reason why maskholes HATE the unmasked because it shines a light on their weakness and willingness to be controlled. Maskholes are mostly mentally ill people who hate themselves more than anything.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Just now, Cdub100 said:

Maskholes are mostly mentally ill people who hate themselves more than anything.

Angry people, every step of the way.  And their anger keeps going to something new.  Now the headlines are about how unvaxxed are riding the coattails of the vaxxers.  Like the unvaxxed ever cared about masking and hunkering down.  Just get your vaccine and feel good about it.  But they can't. 

[Strike 5,600]

I also want to remind people of a fact that never gets mentioned anymore - You can't catch this thing from casually walking by someone in a store.  It takes 15 minutes of close contact with someone to get it if they're a spreader.  This has been a known fact since early on but isn't talked about.

[Cdub100 3,936]

10 minutes ago, Strike said:

I also want to remind people of a fact that never gets mentioned anymore - You can't catch this thing from casually walking by someone in a store.  It takes 15 minutes of close contact with someone to get it if they're a spreader.  This has been a known fact since early on but isn't talked about.

It's weird how that never gets mentioned any more.

[TheNewGirl 1,500]

41 minutes ago, Strike said:

I also want to remind people of a fact that never gets mentioned anymore - You can't catch this thing from casually walking by someone in a store.  It takes 15 minutes of close contact with someone to get it if they're a spreader.  This has been a known fact since early on but isn't talked about.

I do remember this as well. 

The fear that has resulted from this is just amazing to me. It's been quite the social experiment, really.

[lod001 1,344]

Time for Fauci to pay the piper. Probably won't happen but he needs to go to prison. 

[Strike 5,600]

When 10 year olds have more common sense than our "leaders", we got problems:

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

When 10 year olds have more common sense than our "leaders", we got problems:

 

Teachers suck much of the time. 

[Gladiators 1,995]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

When 10 year olds have more common sense than our "leaders", we got problems:

 

Nailed it. Good for him.

[Cdub100 3,936]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

When 10 year olds have more common sense than our "leaders", we got problems:

 

Stupid sh1t like this brave little boy is describing is what happens when we replace Science with "common sense". Or at least idiots who think they are using common sense. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

2 hours ago, Strike said:

When 10 year olds have more common sense than our "leaders", we got problems:

 

If botcuck knew this kids address he'd shut him up for good. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Imagine a teacher walking around yelling at kids about their mask. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

5 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

Just a reminder even if masked worked (they don't) the CDC has said it provides a very very small amount of protection. Social distancing, good hygiene and or straight up avoiding people offer far more protection. Remember the cdc said covid was slowed at the very best 2% in some counties with mask use. 

It's crazy how much maskholes keep pushing this nonsense. It really has become a talisman.

I mean I don't really disagree with this.   I do think masks help, but yeah they are probably more of a symbol than anything at this point.  A symbol of how little some people were willing to do to help end the pandemic.   Remember, masks are meant more to protect people from the wearer.   So yeah, giving vaccine deniers an excuse not to wear them means not protecting other (likely also unvaccinated) people from them (yes, usually in situations where longer time periods are spent indoors).

Hopefully they start wearing them to so they don't catch the "vaccine shedding" though.

[TimHauck 2,931]

3 hours ago, Strike said:

When 10 year olds have more common sense than our "leaders", we got problems:

 

Pretty much agree with him.

[BeenHereBefore 1,539]

I heard you can stick a refrig magnet to the Pfizer one where the person got jabbed and it will stick to their arm or shoulder.

[Fireballer 2,644]

Uh...WTF is this bullsh!t???  You think anyone would have had second thoughts about the vaccine if you told them "The Red Cross doesn't want your plasma now".

 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

8 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Uh...WTF is this bullsh!t???  You think anyone would have had second thoughts about the vaccine if you told them "The Red Cross doesn't want your plasma now".

 

It is in fact, BS, on your part

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-redcross-vaccinated/fact-check-red-cross-is-accepting-plasma-from-people-vaccinated-against-covid-19-idUSL1N2MR1HU

[TK0001 99]

10 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I do think masks help, but yeah they are probably more of a symbol than anything at this point.  A symbol of how little some people were willing to do to help end the pandemic.

If you think people wore masks for any reason other than fear, you're out of your mind. Governors showed the lengths they were willing to go to if we did not comply, by locking down states and destroying livelihoods. As a result, you had people who weren't even afraid of COVID tattling on people not wearing masks because they were afraid of more restrictions. Mask wearing has/had much more to do with the fear than anything else. Fear of totalitarian, draconian measures, fear that the virus was way more deadly than what was statistically shown, fear of our fellow man. 

[fandandy 3,313]

16 hours ago, Strike said:

I also want to remind people of a fact that never gets mentioned anymore - You can't catch this thing from casually walking by someone in a store.  It takes 15 minutes of close contact with someone to get it if they're a spreader.  This has been a known fact since early on but isn't talked about.

How has this been proven?   

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

5 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

If you think people wore masks for any reason other than fear, you're out of your mind. 

Well there is also a segment of society that will do whatever the government tells "science" to tell them to do.   Fauci has changed his mind 50 times and they still hold him up as their God of facts.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

9 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

If you think people wore masks for any reason other than fear, you're out of your mind. Governors showed the lengths they were willing to go to if we did not comply, by locking down states and destroying livelihoods. As a result, you had people who weren't even afraid of COVID tattling on people not wearing masks because they were afraid of more restrictions. Mask wearing has/had much more to do with the fear than anything else. Fear of totalitarian, draconian measures, fear that the virus was way more deadly than what was statistically shown, fear of our fellow man. 

I wore the mask because of Karen and her husband/boyfriend. 

[Cdub100 3,936]

...and then everyone clapped story, but I believe my wife.

My wife went to Kroger last night. She decided to not wear her mask for the first time. She said as she was getting her cart another lady walked in with her mask on. The lady saw my wife and said, "you know what? I'm only wearing this because I don't any conflict." She took her mask off and went shopping.

 

[TheNewGirl 1,500]

1 hour ago, TK0001 said:

If you think people wore masks for any reason other than fear, you're out of your mind. Governors showed the lengths they were willing to go to if we did not comply, by locking down states and destroying livelihoods. As a result, you had people who weren't even afraid of COVID tattling on people not wearing masks because they were afraid of more restrictions. Mask wearing has/had much more to do with the fear than anything else. Fear of totalitarian, draconian measures, fear that the virus was way more deadly than what was statistically shown, fear of our fellow man. 

And this is is proven even moreso; people who are vaxxed wearing masks because they don't want to be labeled as Trump supporters. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

15 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

...and then everyone clapped story, but I believe my wife.

My wife went to Kroger last night. She decided to not wear her mask for the first time. She said as she was getting her cart another lady walked in with her mask on. The lady saw my wife and said, "you know what? I'm only wearing this because I don't any conflict." She took her mask off and went shopping.

 

Hopefully they were both vaccinated

[Cdub100 3,936]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Hopefully they were both vaccinated

Maybe maybe not. I don't care. I'm vaccinated and vaccines work. At this point, if you're not vaccinated that's your choice.

[DonS 3,292]

25 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

...and then everyone clapped story, but I believe my wife.

My wife went to Kroger last night. She decided to not wear her mask for the first time. She said as she was getting her cart another lady walked in with her mask on. The lady saw my wife and said, "you know what? I'm only wearing this because I don't any conflict." She took her mask off and went shopping.

 

Did they start scissoring right then and there?   

 

[TimHauck 2,931]

Just now, Cdub100 said:

Maybe maybe not. I don't care. I'm vaccinated and vaccines work. At this point, if you're not vaccinated that's your choice.

Agree, but if not then they should still be wearing a mask in indoor public spaces.   Not to mention it looks like Kroger still requires them for all customers anyway.

Seriously though...if the anti-vaccine need any evidence that the vaccines work, it's that you got it.

[TK0001 99]

55 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Agree, but if not then they should still be wearing a mask in indoor public spaces.   Not to mention it looks like Kroger still requires them for all customers anyway.

Seriously though...if the anti-vaccine need any evidence that the vaccines work, it's that you got it.

Why this obsessive need to police how other people want to live their lives?

If the vaccines work, then bully for you, you can live your life without fear. 85% of 65+ are vaccinated. The death rate is plummeting. The hospitals are not even remotely close to being overrun. 

We're good to go. 

[TK0001 99]

58 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Agree, but if not then they should still be wearing a mask in indoor public spaces.   Not to mention it looks like Kroger still requires them for all customers anyway.

Seriously though...if the anti-vaccine need any evidence that the vaccines work, it's that you got it.

Also who gives a sh!t if you get it? If it doesn't kill you or hospitalize you, then you have nothing to worry about.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

6 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

Also who gives a sh!t if you get it? If it doesn't kill you or hospitalize you, then you have nothing to worry about.

You are not following this week's rules!   

[TimHauck 2,931]

9 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

Why this obsessive need to police how other people want to live their lives?

If the vaccines work, then bully for you, you can live your life without fear. 85% of 65+ are vaccinated. The death rate is plummeting. The hospitals are not even remotely close to being overrun. 

We're good to go. 

I agree deaths should be significantly reduced now, but I would still rather it not spread amongst the unvaccinated, some of which who may want the vaccine but be unable to get it.  I'm not really worried about myself getting it.