Coronavirus - Doomsday

[TimHauck 2,931]

I will say I'm surprised by the number of people saying "what about the children who can't be vaccinated!!!"

They're at hardly any risk, c'mon people

[GutterBoy 2,899]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I will say I'm surprised by the number of people saying "what about the children who can't be vaccinated!!!"

They're at hardly any risk, c'mon people

Some people think that no one will be safe until the global case count goes to 0.

[Strike 5,601]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I agree deaths should be significantly reduced now, but I would still rather it not spread amongst the unvaccinated, some of which who may want the vaccine but be unable to get it.  I'm not really worried about myself getting it.

The percentage of people who "can't get" the vaccine is infinitesimal.  Stop it.  And what is with the "should be significantly reduced?"   It is. We know it is.  There is no should.  Why do people like you and Fauci have to hedge everything?   Facts are facts. 

[TK0001 99]

12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

but I would still rather it not spread amongst the unvaccinated

Why not? What do you care? Why do you care if a stranger gets the sniffles or is even out of work for two days with flu-like symptoms?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Just now, TK0001 said:

Why not? What do you care? Why do you care if a stranger gets the sniffles or is even out of work for two days with flu-like symptoms?

Or even worse, the stranger doesn't get it at all.  

[TimHauck 2,931]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

The percentage of people who "can't get" the vaccine is infinitesimal.  Stop it.  And what is with the "should be significantly reduced?"   It is. We know it is.  There is no should.  Why do people like you and Fauci have to hedge everything?   Facts are facts. 

Agree with your first sentence, that's why it was just a secondary point in my sentence.   

Deaths are lower, they "should" stay lower.   Only way they wouldn't is if the vaccine doesn't work.

[TK0001 99]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Only way they wouldn't is if the vaccine doesn't work.

I think they work to prevent COVID deaths, but I hope you're right in having such faith that there will be no long term health issues related to the vaccine. Seems like a risk to me, to prevent something that won't do any great harm to me.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

15 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

Why not? What do you care? Why do you care if a stranger gets the sniffles or is even out of work for two days with flu-like symptoms?

Virtue signaling. He cares more than you do. He’s better. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 minute ago, TK0001 said:

Why not? What do you care? Why do you care if a stranger gets the sniffles or is even out of work for two days with flu-like symptoms?

I care about other people.  I know, shocking compared to the rest of the GC.   There are unfortunately a lot of unhealthy (especially if we're using "overweight" by BMI as the definition as others did earlier in this thread) people that are not getting the vaccine.   And we're still seeing over 600 deaths a day.  Even if we call it 500, that'd equate to almost 200k a year or about 5x the typical flu season.

I'm not saying we need to keep restrictions forever.    I frankly don't think there should really be any restrictions at this point except for maybe keeping some mask requirements indoors for those without proof of vaccination or antibody results.   And private businesses such as grocery stores can have their own policies.  If you don't like them, don't go there.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I care about other people.  I know, shocking compared to the rest of the GC.   There are unfortunately a lot of unhealthy (especially if we're using "overweight" by BMI as the definition as others did earlier in this thread) people that are not getting the vaccine.   And we're still seeing over 600 deaths a day.  Even if we call it 500, that'd equate to almost 200k a year or about 5x the typical flu season.

I'm not saying we need to keep restrictions forever.    I frankly don't think there should really be any restrictions at this point except for maybe keeping some mask requirements indoors for those without proof of vaccination or antibody results.   And private businesses such as grocery stores can have their own policies.  If you don't like them, don't go there.

There are other diseases that kill many more people.  Do you care about them?  What are you doing to get people to lose weight or stop drinking/smoking?

[DonS 3,292]

34 minutes ago, Strike said:

The percentage of people who "can't get" the vaccine is infinitesimal.  

They also can't get IDs to vote!!!! 

 

[TK0001 99]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I care about other people.  I know, shocking compared to the rest of the GC.   There are unfortunately a lot of unhealthy (especially if we're using "overweight" by BMI as the definition as others did earlier in this thread) people that are not getting the vaccine.   And we're still seeing over 600 deaths a day.  Even if we call it 500, that'd equate to almost 200k a year or about 5x the typical flu season.

About 8,000 people die every day in the US. I assume you're on your knee in hysterics over all of these unfortunate people, given how you care so much for your fellow Americans.

[TK0001 99]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Virtue signaling. He cares more than you do. He’s better. 

You're normally a moron, but in this case I'd have to agree.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Just now, TK0001 said:

About 8,000 people die every day in the US. I assume you're on your knee in hysterics over all of these unfortunate people, given how you care so much for your fellow Americans.

Somehow the millions put out of work and 10000's of low income kids who very life depends on school being in session pale to a few fatties.   Death culture. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

There are other diseases that kill many more people.  Do you care about them?  What are you doing to get people to lose weight or stop drinking/smoking?

In the US, only 2, heart disease and cancer, neither of which are contagious and neither of which have a highly effective vaccine available.    If we continue to get people to get the vaccine, I do think it's possible that covid can pretty much "go away," as opposed to people just pretending it went away. 

I've said multiple times in this thread I would've hoped that covid would've encouraged people to be healthier so it's unfortunate that it hasn't.  But it surely would be more a violation of people's freedom to ban certain types of food as opposed to telling people to put a cloth over their face, right?

Nonetheless, the government has done a lot in terms of restricting smoking.   But if we're breaking up cancers by type, looks like lung is the highest at around 130k, so less than the 200k number.   I know there is a lot of research being done on other types of cancer.   

[TimHauck 2,931]

5 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

About 8,000 people die every day in the US. I assume you're on your knee in hysterics over all of these unfortunate people, given how you care so much for your fellow Americans.

I care about them, but unfortunately yes people are going to die every day.   In 2020 however that number was more like 9,000 when it should've been 8,000.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

In the US, only 2, heart disease and cancer, neither of which are contagious and neither of which have a highly effective vaccine available.    If we continue to get people to get the vaccine, I do think it's possible that covid can pretty much "go away," as opposed to people just pretending it went away. 

I've said multiple times in this thread I would've hoped that covid would've encouraged people to be healthier so it's unfortunate that it hasn't.  But it surely would be more a violation of people's freedom to ban certain types of food as opposed to telling people to put a cloth over their face, right?

Nonetheless, the government has done a lot in terms of restricting smoking.   But if we're breaking up cancers by type, looks like lung is the highest at around 130k, so less than the 200k number.   I know there is a lot of research being done on other types of cancer.   

You don't want unvaxed people to die, but you have no problem when overweight people get heart attacks and cancer?  Why are you not trying to get people to lose weight, Adolf?

[GutterBoy 2,899]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I care about them, but unfortunately yes people are going to die every day.   In 2020 however that number was more like 9,000 when it should've been 8,000.

Maybe it should have been 7,000, but you dropped the ball in getting people to lose weight, you heartless turd.

[TK0001 99]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

I care about them, but unfortunately yes people are going to die every day.   In 2020 however that number was more like 9,000 when it should've been 8,000.

And now it's back to the normal baseline. So you can stop this "anti-vax" and "vaccine denier" bullsh!t rhetoric and live your life without telling others how to live theirs.

You seem to be yet another person who has chosen to completely ignore the fact immunity can be achieved through previous exposure, a fact that was indisputable until the narrative changed.

[supermike80 1,937]

4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You don't want unvaxed people to die, but you have no problem when overweight people get heart attacks and cancer?  Why are you not trying to get people to lose weight, Adolf?

No no..He cries at every death. Hes a really good person.  

[DonS 3,292]

Women need to start carrying proof of HPV vaccination. One case of poosay eating cancer is one case too many. 

[lod001 1,344]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Hopefully they were both vaccinated

 Quit listening to fauci and the cdc. No one is getting covid walking around in a Kroger without a mask on.

[TimHauck 2,931]

18 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

You don't want unvaxed people to die, but you have no problem when overweight people get heart attacks and cancer?  Why are you not trying to get people to lose weight, Adolf?

I mean I don't want them to die either.  But heart attacks and cancer aren't contagious.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I mean I don't want them to die either.  But heart attacks and cancer aren't contagious.

Who cares if it's contagious or not?  That's an arbitrary way of being a sociopath.

[TimHauck 2,931]

22 minutes ago, TK0001 said:

And now it's back to the normal baseline. So you can stop this "anti-vax" and "vaccine denier" bullsh!t rhetoric and live your life without telling others how to live theirs.

You seem to be yet another person who has chosen to completely ignore the fact immunity can be achieved through previous exposure, a fact that was indisputable until the narrative changed.

I don't think we know if it's back to the normal baseline yet.   Death reporting lags.

To your second sentence, no I'm not:

45 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I'm not saying we need to keep restrictions forever.    I frankly don't think there should really be any restrictions at this point except for maybe keeping some mask requirements indoors for those without proof of vaccination or antibody results.   And private businesses such as grocery stores can have their own policies.  If you don't like them, don't go there.

 

[TheNewGirl 1,500]

17 minutes ago, DonS said:

Women need to start carrying proof of HPV vaccination. One case of poosay eating cancer is one case too many. 

You realize that men also get HPV right, and the fact that warts and lesions are super small on the pen!s (can't see them) is usually what spreads the poosay cancer

[nobody 2,694]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

There are other diseases that kill many more people.  Do you care about them?  What are you doing to get people to lose weight or stop drinking/smoking?

Preach.  I'm not doing sh¡t to ensure people stay healthy until I get control of their diet and exercise regimen 

[lod001 1,344]

Truly pathetic and total BS: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-05-19/covid-lockdowns-worked

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

2 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Truly pathetic and total BS: https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-05-19/covid-lockdowns-worked

 

That guy is the cuck that the cucks here wish they could be.   Everything about covid is "saving lives" or "risking lives".

[TimHauck 2,931]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Who cares if it's contagious or not?  That's an arbitrary way of being a sociopath.

Overall, the point is that with contagious diseases such as covid, one person's decisions can impact other people.   Generally not so with heart disease (or cancer, but of course most cancers besides lung are not easily preventable in the first place).

Although sure, at this point if you haven't gotten the vaccine then I guess part of the blame should be on you.

But speaking of the vaccine, it's a pretty simple fix for the covid problem.   Not so for heart disease or cancer.   I'm sure someone will retort with "how hard is it to eat right & exercise?"...not as easy as getting a shot or 2.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

But speaking of the vaccine, it's a pretty simple fix for the covid problem.   Not so for heart disease or cancer.   I'm sure someone will retort with "how hard is it to eat right & exercise?"...not as easy as getting a shot or 2.

Absolutely true, all people with serious health issues would be wise to get the jab.  Haven't heard anyone say otherwise. 

[TimHauck 2,931]

Just now, TimmySmith said:

Absolutely true, all people with serious health issues would be wise to get the jab.  Haven't heard anyone say otherwise. 

Anyone that's overweight, correct?

[TimHauck 2,931]

2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Absolutely true, all people with serious health issues would be wise to get the jab.  Haven't heard anyone say otherwise. 

Also IIRC I think lod001 said the vaccine didn't work and I believe he might've said there could be more deaths from the vaccine than the virus

[Strike 5,601]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Overall, the point is that with contagious diseases such as covid, one person's decisions can impact other people.   Generally not so with heart disease (or cancer, but of course most cancers besides lung are not easily preventable in the first place).

Although sure, at this point if you haven't gotten the vaccine then I guess part of the blame should be on you.

But speaking of the vaccine, it's a pretty simple fix for the covid problem.   Not so for heart disease or cancer.   I'm sure someone will retort with "how hard is it to eat right & exercise?"...not as easy as getting a shot or 2.

More with the hedging.  How is not ALL on you if you haven't gotten the Covid vaccine?

[lod001 1,344]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Also IIRC I think lod001 said the vaccine didn't work and I believe he might've said there could be more deaths from the vaccine than the virus

You love making sh1t up. I did say the #s dead from the virus are complete bullshit.

It doesn't work. You cannot prove it works. Go get in line for your booster shot. You are once again just regurgitating the BS they feed you. "oh, he's lucky he got the vaccine because if he didn't his symptoms would have been worse and he probably would have died". You ate up that BS like it was your last meal. Just made up BS fed to the lower IQ population. You don't even realize there are millions of people walking around that don't even know they have had it. My brother and my dad are 2 of them. Only after blood tests did they know they had it.

Find me someone who died with covid and would not have with the jab. Ya can't, that's impossible. However, I got plenty I can show you that died from the jab and HAD recovered previously from covid or were totally healthy and died after the jab. People are getting covid even after being vaccinated AND let me add you are in a phase 3 trial. It's not approved for use except in an emergency...which this really isnt....except maybe for the unhealthy fatties. You are risking your life taking that crap. You cannot sue anyone if it turns south on you. It's just 'oh well, too bad'.

WTF would anyone take something that is not needed and risk death from it, when the virus won't kill them. That is true insanity.

[lod001 1,344]

More bribes to get the jab.

Beginning 5/19, individuals age 18+ who received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine in NJ can enter to win dinner along with a guest with

@FirstLadyNJ and me at @DrumthwacketNJ or Island Beach State Park.

Wow, the lines gotta be a mile long for that 'prize'. 

[nobody 2,694]

44 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I'm sure someone will retort with "how hard is it to eat right & exercise?"...not as easy as getting a shot or 2.

My problem with this is your making other people's health my responsibility.  If you're going to do that, 1. How about people show me they give a shìt about their own health, and 2. If I'm responsible for people's health, then I want control over their life.  There shìtty life choices are affecting me now.  Either they need to accept those consequences or if they're going to put it on me, then I need control of the situation.

[nobody 2,694]

4 minutes ago, lod001 said:

More bribes to get the jab.

Beginning 5/19, individuals age 18+ who received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine in NJ can enter to win dinner along with a guest with

@FirstLadyNJ and me at @DrumthwacketNJ or Island Beach State Park.

Wow, the lines gotta be a mile long for that 'prize'. 

Not to mention, they'll hand pick who they're going to subject themselves to dinner with.

[TimHauck 2,931]

14 minutes ago, lod001 said:

You love making sh1t up. I did say the #s dead from the virus are complete bullshit.

It doesn't work. You cannot prove it works. Go get in line for your booster shot. You are once again just regurgitating the BS they feed you. "oh, he's lucky he got the vaccine because if he didn't his symptoms would have been worse and he probably would have died". You ate up that BS like it was your last meal. Just made up BS fed to the lower IQ population. You don't even realize there are millions of people walking around that don't even know they have had it. My brother and my dad are 2 of them. Only after blood tests did they know they had it.

Find me someone who died with covid and would not have with the jab. Ya can't, that's impossible. However, I got plenty I can show you that died from the jab and HAD recovered previously from covid or were totally healthy and died after the jab. People are getting covid even after being vaccinated AND let me add you are in a phase 3 trial. It's not approved for use except in an emergency...which this really isnt....except maybe for the unhealthy fatties. You are risking your life taking that crap. You cannot sue anyone if it turns south on you. It's just 'oh well, too bad'.

WTF would anyone take something that is not needed and risk death from it, when the virus won't kill them. That is true insanity.

So do you think people with serious health issues should take the jab?

[TheNewGirl 1,500]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So do you think people with serious health issues should take the jab?

Aren't they the most at risk of death from the disease?