Coronavirus - Doomsday

[MDC 7,509]

I went back to the gym today for the first time in over a year. They were requiring masks and social distancing. It was just like Nazi Germany, if concentration camps were voluntary and had weights and cardio equipment.

 

[Cdub100 3,935]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

I went back to the gym today for the first time in over a year. They were requiring masks and social distancing. It was just like Nazi Germany, if concentration camps were voluntary and had weights and cardio equipment.

 

Well they did have pools and a hospital and the people in them played sports so... Maybe you're not too far off 

[MDC 7,509]

30 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Well they did have pools and a hospital and the people in them played sports so... Maybe you're not too far off 

Almost everything is like Nazi Germany.  

[jerryskids 6,853]

I would say Arizona is about 75% maskless at this point.  Went to a (mostly) Vegan place to pick up some food today, as expected they required masks.  A lot of places are "masks recommended" which is being interpreted as no masks, with some exceptions.  Went to a West Elm (bedding store) in Scottsdale yesterday, masks options, but the wife and I were just about the only ones without masks.  Got a few glares from the mask cult.  Ice cream place up the road, also recommended, pretty much no masks.

Sadly, schools just let out here this week so there were a lot of teens at the above places.  It seems the left has brainwashed them into compliance, as they had a much higher rate of masks.   

[TimmySmith 2,782]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

I went back to the gym today for the first time in over a year. They were requiring masks and social distancing. It was just like Nazi Germany, if concentration camps were voluntary and had weights and cardio equipment.

 

Lots of people prospered in Nazi Germany. It was still Nazi Germany.

[TimHauck 2,929]

15 hours ago, MDC said:

Almost everything is like Nazi Germany.  

For $5 a pop the GC can show off how oppressed they are:

 

 

[Cloaca du jour 2,151]

On a serious note...2 healthy people known by association have succumbed to the virus in the last week.  Friends daughter's husband..and the guy I mentioned in another post whose lungs got wrecked with clots.

Both healthy

[Fireballer 2,644]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

For $5 a pop the GC can show off how oppressed they are:

 

 

How fuking stupid.  Not even close.

[Cdub100 3,935]

When mask cultist complain to me about other covid rules they have to follow. I could not care any less. 

 

[MDC 7,509]

1 minute ago, Cdub100 said:

When mask cultist complain to me about other covid rules they have to follow. I could not care any less. 

 

What other rules are these mask cultists complaining to you about?

[Cdub100 3,935]

2 hours ago, MDC said:

What other rules are these mask cultists complaining to you about?

How the university only allows 12 people per class but he has 18 kids on the roster so it's on him to figure it out. He said he should be allowed to have all 18 kids in his classroom. 

I just do not care. 

[TimHauck 2,929]

11 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said:

On a serious note...2 healthy people known by association have succumbed to the virus in the last week.  Friends daughter's husband..and the guy I mentioned in another post whose lungs got wrecked with clots.

Both healthy

Sorry to hear.  I assume not vaccinated?

[KSB2424 3,148]

I got my second Pfizer last week.  No issues; I mean my arm was a bit sore and I slept the next night a good 11 hours for some reason but that’s it.  
 

With that said vaccination for COVID should be voluntary. If I was in my 20’s I wouldn’t get it now.  Kids getting is stupid and overkill in my eyes.  No chance I give my boys (12 and 9) a brand new vaccine. Now if this COVID shiot mutates or it’s a thing year over year, I may change my mind.  

 

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

6 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

 

They were right about science, it's going to prove the hoax. 

[TimHauck 2,929]

I know the media did and I guess Fauci, but did the “entire community of virologists and scientists” say it “couldn’t possibly have come from a lab”?

I think the media kinda just ran with like 2 papers saying that, one of which we now know was organized by a dude with a huge conflict of interest.   

Once we were in the midst of the pandemic, I feel like the majority of “scientists” were more concerned with trying to end it than determining where it came from.

[TimHauck 2,929]

5 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

They were right about science, it's going to prove the hoax. 

I’m not sure you know what the word “hoax” means...

[TimmySmith 2,782]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’m not sure you know what the word “hoax” means...

Back at you. 

[Cdub100 3,935]

26 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I know the media did and I guess Fauci, but did the “entire community of virologists and scientists” say it “couldn’t possibly have come from a lab”?

I think the media kinda just ran with like 2 papers saying that, one of which we now know was organized by a dude with a huge conflict of interest.   

Once we were in the midst of the pandemic, I feel like the majority of “scientists” were more concerned with trying to end it than determining where it came from.

The problem is there was a coordinated effort to silence these people and the ones who did speak out were threatened with their livelihoods.

They have been lying about where it came from and what can be used to treat it. I've been talking about HCQ for a year now. One of if not the largest studies in the world proved it worked. 

We have a HUGE problem here. And you think "the media kinda ran with like 2 papers...."

Do you understand how terrible this is? Who can we trust? Nobody.

[Fireballer 2,644]

35 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I know the media did and I guess Fauci, but did the “entire community of virologists and scientists” say it “couldn’t possibly have come from a lab”?

I think the media kinda just ran with like 2 papers saying that, one of which we now know was organized by a dude with a huge conflict of interest.   

Once we were in the midst of the pandemic, I feel like the majority of “scientists” were more concerned with trying to end it than determining where it came from.

Wow. 

[Reality 3,121]

45 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I know the media did and I guess Fauci, but did the “entire community of virologists and scientists” say it “couldn’t possibly have come from a lab”?

I think the media kinda just ran with like 2 papers saying that, one of which we now know was organized by a dude with a huge conflict of interest.   

Once we were in the midst of the pandemic, I feel like the majority of “scientists” were more concerned with trying to end it than determining where it came from.

This is just sad. Wake up man, you got took.

[TimHauck 2,929]

11 minutes ago, Reality said:

This is just sad. Wake up man, you got took.

I've said for months I'd believe it came from the lab.   I know you can't believe everything you read.   And I'm all for penalizing those responsible.  But wherever it came from, it doesn't really change the fact that covid was a big deal and has killed 500k+ in the US.

[Strike 5,599]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

I know the media did and I guess Fauci, but did the “entire community of virologists and scientists” say it “couldn’t possibly have come from a lab”?

I think the media kinda just ran with like 2 papers saying that, one of which we now know was organized by a dude with a huge conflict of interest.   

Once we were in the midst of the pandemic, I feel like the majority of “scientists” were more concerned with trying to end it than determining where it came from.

You think the majority of scientists were involved n finding a cure or a way to end this?  And that somehow that prevented them from speaking up on the issue?  This seems speculative at best Because knowing where this thing came from, and any data related to that source, might have helped find a cure quicker. 

[listen2me 23 1,874]

39 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

The problem is there was a coordinated effort to silence these people and the ones who did speak out were threatened with their livelihoods.

They have been lying about where it came from and what can be used to treat it. I've been talking about HCQ for a year now. One of if not the largest studies in the world proved it worked. 

We have a HUGE problem here. And you think "the media kinda ran with like 2 papers...."

Do you understand how terrible this is? Who can we trust? Nobody.

Agree.  

Not to mention the things Trump said long ago that turned out correct.  As Fauci and thr media basically trashed him for saying.  Can they go back and take the fact checks off and re do the election? Nah.

Trump said it came from that lab long ago.  Trump wanted to ban travel from China long ago.  Trump tolled thr vaccine out in record time but downplayed masks a bit.  Today we all know that masks at best fo hardly anything to stop the spread of covid.  

[Cdub100 3,935]

6 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Agree.  

Not to mention the things Trump said long ago that turned out correct.  As Fauci and thr media basically trashed him for saying.  Can they go back and take the fact checks off and re do the election? Nah.

Trump said it came from that lab long ago.  Trump wanted to ban travel from China long ago.  Trump tolled thr vaccine out in record time but downplayed masks a bit.  Today we all know that masks at best fo hardly anything to stop the spread of covid.  

Trump wanted HCQ and other treatments.

Now we know the FDA couldn't approve the "vaccine" for emergency use if there was another treatment for COVID. A treatment I may add IS A GENERIC DRUG that cost fractions of a penny to manufacture.

This is a HUGE problem and nothing will come from it. The Resident in Chief will probably give Fauci a focking medal.

[TimHauck 2,929]

11 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Trump wanted HCQ

not when he caught covid

[Strike 5,599]

11 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Trump wanted HCQ and other treatments.

Now we know the FDA couldn't approve the "vaccine" for emergency use if there was another treatment for COVID. A treatment I may add IS A GENERIC DRUG that cost fractions of a penny to manufacture.

This is a HUGE problem and nothing will come from it. The Resident in Chief will probably give Fauci a focking medal.

Do you have links to the bolded above and the HCQ study you mentioned earlier?  I'd love to read those.

[lod001 1,344]

30 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I've said for months I'd believe it came from the lab.   I know you can't believe everything you read.   And I'm all for penalizing those responsible.  But wherever it came from, it doesn't really change the fact that covid was a big deal and has killed 500k+ in the US.

500k. Um,  no. Totally fake, most died of something else. The overall number is totally fake. Maybe 100k but that would be a stretch.

[Strike 5,599]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

not when he caught covid

This is bullsh*t, and just shows why no one considers you credible.  Trump was the focking president of the USA.  If he gets sick he doesn't get to decide what treatment to follow.  He does what the best doctors in the country tell him to do.  Do we even know what that was?  You can just post a link.  Don't be an idiot like Worms. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

32 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I've said for months I'd believe it came from the lab.   I know you can't believe everything you read.   And I'm all for penalizing those responsible.  But wherever it came from, it doesn't really change the fact that covid was a big deal and has killed 500k+ in the US.

So the machine saying it didn't come from a lab, and the lapdog lib media calling everyone who said it might, a conspiracy theorist, and now, proof that scientists had this theory from the start, but no hoax.     

We need a million respirators.  Hospitals are overflowing.  But no hoax.   

[lod001 1,344]

So what do we got, 38% vaxxed. For herd immunity they say we need 75% or so. Well Vegas was packed over the weekend. That's a super spreader event cause it's 90% mask less conservatively. A few woketards were there with their masks. When cases don't explode, will the retards wake up and realize they were scammed?

[Cdub100 3,935]

9 minutes ago, Strike said:

Do you have links to the bolded above and the HCQ study you mentioned earlier?  I'd love to read those.

Here is the study done by one of my local hospitals. One of the largest in the nation done last spring and the study released early summer 2020.

https://www.henryford.com/news/2020/07/hydro-treatment-study

Treatment with hydroxychloroquine cut the death rate significantly in sick patients hospitalized with COVID-19 – and without heart-related side-effects, according to a new study published by Henry Ford Health System.

In a large-scale retrospective analysis of 2,541 patients hospitalized between March 10 and May 2, 2020 across the system’s six hospitals, the study found 13% of those treated with hydroxychloroquine alone died compared to 26.4% not treated with hydroxychloroquine. None of the patients had documented serious heart abnormalities; however, patients were monitored for a heart condition routinely pointed to as a reason to avoid the drug as a treatment for COVID-19.

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Here is emergency treatment information

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained

Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, including that there are no adequate, approved, and available alternatives.

[Cdub100 3,935]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

not when he caught covid

Nobody says HCQ prevents COVID. It helps your immune system fight it by slowing the spread. He was taking it and he's an over weight, 76 year old man. He was the prime candidate to die from covid, yet he was down for a couple of days.

So yes HCQ works. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

22 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Nobody says HCQ prevents COVID. It helps your immune system fight it by slowing the spread. He was taking it and he's an over weight, 76 year old man. He was the prime candidate to die from covid, yet he was down for a couple of days.

So yes HCQ works. 

Why even try?  He is still of the ilk that claims Trump told people to inject cleaner.  

[TimHauck 2,929]

50 minutes ago, Strike said:

This is bullsh*t, and just shows why no one considers you credible.  Trump was the focking president of the USA.  If he gets sick he doesn't get to decide what treatment to follow.  He does what the best doctors in the country tell him to do.  Do we even know what that was?  You can just post a link.  Don't be an idiot like Worms. 

It was the Regeneron antibody cocktail: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/heres-what-known-about-president-donald-trump-s-covid-19-treatment

Also in the article: "The statement released on 2 October by the president’s physician said that in addition to the antibodies, Trump “has been taking zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and a daily aspirin.” That wording leaves unclear whether he was taking those substances before his diagnosed infection. Notably, the statement does not indicate whether Trump was or is taking hydroxychloroquine"

Besides, I thought Ivermectin was the miracle drug now, not HCQ?

[Strike 5,599]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

It was the Regeneron antibody cocktail: https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/heres-what-known-about-president-donald-trump-s-covid-19-treatment

Also in the article: "The statement released on 2 October by the president’s physician said that in addition to the antibodies, Trump “has been taking zinc, vitamin D, famotidine, melatonin and a daily aspirin.” That wording leaves unclear whether he was taking those substances before his diagnosed infection. Notably, the statement does not indicate whether Trump was or is taking hydroxychloroquine"

Besides, I thought Ivermectin was the miracle drug now, not HCQ?

You miss the point.  The President does what his doctors tell him to.  If Trump's doctors didn't recommend HCQ he didn't take it.  Is this really something you want to argue?  That Trump should have taken HCQ, or that this somehow shows that Trump was full of it when he mentioned HCQ as a possible treatment for Covid?  Seriously?  Dude, give it up.

[TimHauck 2,929]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

You miss the point.  The President does what his doctors tell him to.  If Trump's doctors didn't recommend HCQ he didn't take it.  Is this really something you want to argue?  That Trump should have taken HCQ, or that this somehow shows that Trump was full of it when he mentioned HCQ as a possible treatment for Covid?  Seriously?  Dude, give it up.

I agree with you: Trump probably has the best doctors in the country.  They didn't give him HCQ when he got covid.   Therefore, unlikely that HCQ actually works.

[Strike 5,599]

Just now, TimHauck said:

I agree with you: Trump probably has the best doctors in the country.  They didn't give him HCQ when he got covid.   Therefore, unlikely that HCQ actually works.

If that's your take from this then your understanding of logic and medicine are lacking. 

[TimHauck 2,929]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

If that's your take from this then your understanding of logic and medicine are lacking. 

What's your take from it?  Why didn't his doctors give it to him?  Were they in on the cover-up?

[Strike 5,599]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What's your take from it?  Why didn't his doctors give it to him?  Were they in on the cover-up?

ROFLMAO?  Are you serious?  You want me to second guess the best doctors in the country and the treatment plan they came up with for the POTUS?  You do realize that for almost any disease there are multiple ways to fight it, right?   And that just because a doctor chooses one treatment plan based upon his experience and knowledge of available treatments, it doesn't invalidate other treatments, right?