Coronavirus - Doomsday

[TimHauck 2,926]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

 

2. No, it isn't.  Please read it again.  The part I quoted is independent of contamination errors; it is the result of the math around statistical factors like Bayes Theorem -- We are looking for the probability that you have Covid given a positive test, based on the probability that you get a positive test given you have Covid (captured by specificity, and NOT the same thing) and the odds that anybody in the population has Covid (prevalence).  That entire section talks about prevalence and specificity.  For instance, at 98% specificity and 10% prevalence, mathematically 20% of the results are false positives.  This is a general truism independent of Covid.  Contamination is an additional factor in false positives, so they provide guidance in reducing those as well.

The powers that be don't want people to figure this out; if we start questioning such things we'll potentially rebel.  IMO these false positives are a large factor in the recurrences of Covid, which is probably a good thing because that means people really aren't getting it a second time, as much as they think anyway.

Pretty much the whole letter up to that point is talking about recommendations for not screwing up the test.

The part you quoted were just examples, it's not saying that the test isn't accurate.

Here's a pretty good twitter thread:

 

 

[jerryskids 6,846]

40 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Pretty much the whole letter up to that point is talking about recommendations for not screwing up the test.

The part you quoted were just examples, it's not saying that the test isn't accurate.

Here's a pretty good twitter thread:

 

 

Thanks.  I would argue that the authors are being liberal with (if not plain making up) numbers.  For instance, their link for "Studies suggest that sensitivity may be somewhere between 85% and 98%." actually says:

Quote

No test gives a 100% accurate result; tests need to be evaluated to determine their sensitivity and specificity, ideally by comparison with a  “gold standard.”  The lack of such a clear-cut “gold-standard”  for covid-19 testing makes evaluation of test accuracy challenging. A systematic review of the accuracy of covid-19 tests reported false negative rates of between 2% and 29% (equating to sensitivity of 71-98%), based on negative RT-PCR tests which were positive on repeat testing.6  The use of repeat RT-PCR testing as gold standard is likely to underestimate the true rate of false negatives, as not all patients in the included studies received repeat testing and those with clinically diagnosed covid-19 were not considered as actually having covid-19.

Further evidence and independent validation of covid-19 tests are needed.13  As current studies show marked variation and are likely to overestimate sensitivity, we will use the lower end of current estimates from systematic reviews,6  with the approximate numbers of 70% for sensitivity and 95% for specificity for illustrative purposes.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Can I get an update? If I have the vaccination, what do I have to fear from the unvaccinated? 

[Gepetto 1,374]

44 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Can I get an update? If I have the vaccination, what do I have to fear from the unvaccinated? 

It seems Fauci thinks the government should arrest you for murder when the unvaxed die from Covid.

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

48 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Can I get an update? If I have the vaccination, what do I have to fear from the unvaccinated? 

Fear itself

[TimHauck 2,926]

50 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Can I get an update? If I have the vaccination, what do I have to fear from the unvaccinated? 

Mostly them giving covid to your kids (yes, I know extremely low death rate but they can still get sick) or your elderly parents or grandparents that can be more susceptible to covid despite the vaccine.  And of course you still have a chance of getting it yourself, albeit less (about 70-90% less chance of getting it and about 95% less chance of dying).

[TimmySmith 2,782]

58 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Can I get an update? If I have the vaccination, what do I have to fear from the unvaccinated? 

Well those Mfers a killing the quotas that the globalists promised the drug makers. And shutdowns will happen until they capitulate.  So keep on em.

[TimHauck 2,926]

1 minute ago, TimmySmith said:

Well those Mfers a killing the quotas that the globalists promised the drug makers. And shutdowns will happen until they capitulate.  So keep on em.

What shut downs are happening in the US?

[Utilit99 4,099]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What shut downs are happening in the US?

Millions of businesses that can't reopen because they can't get employees because creepy joe won't stop sending lazy people our tax dollars and won't allow landlords to kick people out for not paying. 

[TimHauck 2,926]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

Millions of businesses that can't reopen because they can't get employees because creepy joe won't stop sending lazy people our tax dollars and won't allow landlords to kick people out for not paying. 

That’s not a shutdown

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

That’s not a shutdown

Sure as hell is. Our government is purposefully taking these actions to keep these businesses dormant.

[TimHauck 2,926]

44 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Well those Mfers a killing the quotas that the globalists promised the drug makers. And shutdowns will happen until they capitulate.  So keep on em.

 

 

[porkbutt 893]

WHO FOCKING CARES!!!  if you are scared…go get vax, put on a hundred masks and dont leave house. otherwise just stfu!!!!!!! its unreal. i could care less what anyone else does!!! 

[TimHauck 2,926]

On 7/29/2021 at 7:36 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

Thats not my implication at all. My implication is that it’s not a political thing, like the left has tried to brand it, blaming it on red states.  But when it became evident that POC are the lowest vaccinated group, crickets. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/04/what-about-black-people-defense-republican-vaccine-hesitancy/

 

[NorthernVike 2,087]

Still a nothing burger. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

31 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/04/what-about-black-people-defense-republican-vaccine-hesitancy/

 

Yeah well, I live in NY. It’s the blacks that are keeping the numbers down here. 

[TimHauck 2,926]

10 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah well, I live in NY. It’s the blacks that are keeping the numbers down here. 

New York City?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

10 hours ago, TimHauck said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/08/04/what-about-black-people-defense-republican-vaccine-hesitancy/

 

The WaPo. You know the numbers liar.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

New York City?

Close enough and I’m there frequently as are many people I know. 

[TimHauck 2,926]

30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Close enough and I’m there frequently as are many people I know. 

Doesn't NYC have a pretty decent vax rate though overall?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Doesn't NYC have a pretty decent vax rate though overall?

Yeah. All the white peoples and some of the rest. 

[TimHauck 2,926]

1 hour ago, TimmySmith said:

The WaPo. You know the numbers liar.

They weren't lying about the numbers, just putting them in perspective.

Blacks may have a low % vaccinated, but they're also a lower % of the population, so we'd make a bigger overall difference by vaccinating more white people. 

However, Republicans are among the highest % to say they "definitely won't take it" (one other comment the article made was that the total % of white people getting it looks better in part because there are also many white Democrats) - https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-july-2021/ - Republicans are behind only the uninsured in saying they definitely won't take it

On that note, here's some interesting data showing that blacks have been closing the gap in many areas/states (although not so much in NYC HT) - https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/us-vaccine-demographics.html

[TimHauck 2,926]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah. All the white peoples and some of the rest. 

including you?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

49 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

They weren't lying about the numbers, just putting them in perspective.

Blacks may have a low % vaccinated, but they're also a lower % of the population, so we'd make a bigger overall difference by vaccinating more white people. 

However, Republicans are among the highest % to say they "definitely won't take it" (one other comment the article made was that the total % of white people getting it looks better in part because there are also many white Democrats) - https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/poll-finding/kff-covid-19-vaccine-monitor-july-2021/ - Republicans are behind only the uninsured in saying they definitely won't take it

On that note, here's some interesting data showing that blacks have been closing the gap in many areas/states (although not so much in NYC HT) - https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/us-vaccine-demographics.html

Roughly 30 million blacks aren't vaxxed. Roughly 50 million whites aren't. There are 4x more whites in ths country. Thanks for playing, liar. 

[TimHauck 2,926]

10 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Roughly 30 million blacks aren't vaxxed. Roughly 50 million whites aren't. There are 4x more whites in ths country. Thanks for playing, liar. 

Yeah to use my "playbook", thanks for proving my point!

[Fireballer 2,643]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah to use my "playbook", thanks for proving my point!

Prove your point?

30 million is x% of 40 million.

V/s

50 million is x% of 235 million.

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

13 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Prove your point?

30 million is x% of 40 million.

V/s

50 million is x% of 235 million.

 

"Proving my point" is his new comeback when he is toast.  I mentioned it earlier, and he proved my point.

[TimHauck 2,926]

7 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Prove your point?

30 million is x% of 40 million.

V/s

50 million is x% of 235 million.

 

Yeah, to quote my earlier post, "we'd make a bigger overall difference by vaccinating more white people."

So, since more white people are not vaccinated than black people, that is a true statement.

 

In addition Timmy may be lying again.  Timmy, can you share your source for the 30 million unvaccinated blacks? I thought blacks were at least around 30-35% vaccinated, not 25%.

[Utilit99 4,099]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah, to quote my earlier post, "we'd make a bigger overall difference by vaccinating more white people."

So, since more white people are not vaccinated than black people, that is a true statement.

 

In addition Timmy may be lying again.  Timmy, can you share your source for the 30 million unvaccinated blacks? I thought blacks were at least around 30-35% vaccinated, not 25%.

Who focking cares if people don't want to get the experimental drug? How is that hurting you who probably got 10 shots of the shlt?

[TimmySmith 2,782]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah, to quote my earlier post, "we'd make a bigger overall difference by vaccinating more white people."

So, since more white people are not vaccinated than black people, that is a true statement.

 

In addition Timmy may be lying again.  Timmy, can you share your source for the 30 million unvaccinated blacks? I thought blacks were at least around 30-35% vaccinated, not 25%.

Hey liar take a look and tell me what you see.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/

[NorthernVike 2,087]

Lets see...

The manufactures can not be held responsible

The Government can not be held responsible

The Doctor giving the jab can not be held responsible 

And the unvaxed are considered the irresponsible

 

Unbelievable

[TimmySmith 2,782]

5 minutes ago, NorthernVike said:

Lets see...

The manufactures can not be held responsible

The Government can not be held responsible

The Doctor giving the jab can not be held responsible 

And the unvaxed are considered the irresponsible

 

Unbelievable

You forgot to quantify it as an unapproved drug. 

[Strike 5,595]

As usual, Mike Rowe nails it:

https://www.facebook.com/TheRealMikeRowe/posts/4554322871244487

[Reality 3,121]

Stop trying to force people who've already had Covid to get the vaccine. It's really stupid.

 

[Fireballer 2,643]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Stop trying to force people who've already had Covid to get the vaccine. It's really stupid.

 

This is prob the most grotesque part of this whole charade...making previously sick getting the vax.  Don't say a fukin word about "following the science" if u agree with that sh!t.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

Every American is vaccinated can we go back to normal now?

genius Joe at it again

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Wow, have the botcucks of the world done a shameful number on this little girl. Horrible.

"Right now, especially while the Delta variant is surging and killing so many kids, I really believe that masks should be required," Lila wrote. "I am so worried that if masks are not required, my brother could go to school one day and the next be dying."

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/florida-tween-writes-poignant-letter-192952925.html

[TimHauck 2,926]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Stop trying to force people who've already had Covid to get the vaccine. It's really stupid.

 

Agreed

[Fireballer 2,643]

33 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Wow, have the botcucks of the world done a shameful number on this little girl. Horrible.

"Right now, especially while the Delta variant is surging and killing so many kids, I really believe that masks should be required," Lila wrote. "I am so worried that if masks are not required, my brother could go to school one day and the next be dying."

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/florida-tween-writes-poignant-letter-192952925.html

What have they fukin filled these kids heads with?

[TimHauck 2,926]

3 hours ago, TimmySmith said:

Hey liar take a look and tell me what you see.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/latest-data-on-covid-19-vaccinations-race-ethnicity/

I see 38% of blacks have received at least one dose.

Thanks for proving me right (again)!