Coronavirus - Doomsday

[lod001 1,344]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9876581/Husband-73-wife-71-die-Covid-12-hours-other.html

Vax worked out like a champ for these 2. Double jabbed. Man if they just coulda gotten that booster jab in time.

[lod001 1,344]

5 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 

I got mine just in case but I've been around so many exposed people, who knows.

[TimHauck 2,923]

5 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 

Walt I thought long covid didn’t exist?  Sorry, hard to keep up with all the conflicting arguments 

[lod001 1,344]

Yeah, working out great over in massively vaxxed Israel.

https://t.co/FxPl9UeiKp?amp=1

Cdc warns against going there. You're losing badly Timmy boy. Hit the button.

[lod001 1,344]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Walt I thought long covid didn’t exist?  Sorry, hard to keep up with all the conflicting arguments 

Like weak a mask don't wear a mask, wear 2 masks, fauci?. Like vaxxes will prevent you from getting covid to it's only to make the symptoms less. To the idiot CDC clown woman saying the vaxxed don't carry covid to oops they do.

 

 Another loss for Timmy boy.

[DonS 3,292]

4 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Yeah, working out great over in massively vaxxed Israel.

https://t.co/FxPl9UeiKp?amp=1

Cdc warns against going there. You're losing badly Timmy boy. Hit the button.

Maybe the CDC just hates Israel like Ben & Jerry? 

 

[TimHauck 2,923]

8 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Like weak a mask don't wear a mask, wear 2 masks, fauci?. Like vaxxes will prevent you from getting covid to it's only to make the symptoms less. To the idiot CDC clown woman saying the vaxxed don't carry covid to oops they do.

 

 Another loss for Timmy boy.

The vax does prevent you from getting covid, but unfortunately it’s not 100% and never claimed to be.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Not worse than sending infected people into nursing homes.

Yeah but they stopped doing that. So now what do you think? 

[lod001 1,344]

35 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The vax does prevent you from getting covid, but unfortunately it’s not 100% and never claimed to be.

Of course it does  

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israel-s-exhausted-hospitals-fear-wave-of-serious-covid-cases-1.10093177

Chalk up another loss for you.

 

 

 

 

[TimHauck 2,923]

20 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Of course it does  

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israel-s-exhausted-hospitals-fear-wave-of-serious-covid-cases-1.10093177

Chalk up another loss for you.

 

 

 

 

Did you see this that I posted earlier from literally the same website?

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/the-israeli-graphs-that-prove-covid-vaccines-are-working-1.10101640

 

[nobody 2,693]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

The vax does prevent you from getting covid, but unfortunately it’s not 100% and never claimed to be.

True.  Moderna and Pfizer just claimed it was 98% and 99% effective.

[TimHauck 2,923]

30 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Of course it does  

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-israel-s-exhausted-hospitals-fear-wave-of-serious-covid-cases-1.10093177

Chalk up another loss for you.

 

 

 

 

Also, this is just based on a “forecast” of hitting 1,000 serious cases.  They’re currently at about 350 - https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/as-serious-cases-swell-israel-s-covid-contact-tracing-falls-behind-1.10099857

[TimHauck 2,923]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

True.  Moderna and Pfizer just claimed it was 98% and 99% effective.

No pretty sure it was 94-95% (against symptomatic infection)

[nobody 2,693]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No pretty sure it was 94-95% (against symptomatic infection)

Ok.  And clearly they aren't 94-95% effective at preventing symptomatic infection.

[TimHauck 2,923]

20 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah but they stopped doing that. So now what do you think? 

Yeah like I've said I'm sure it hasn't helped.  But I'm not sure you can say they are driving the increase particularly in states like Arkansas.

Although speaking of Texas, you guys may be right about "lockdowns" coming.  It's just not liberals implementing them: 

 

https://gov.texas.gov/news/post/governor-abbott-takes-action-to-mitigate-rise-in-covid-19-cases-in-texas

[lod001 1,344]

Checked the hospital stats again today. Really bad out there...for profits. 

The closest ones are at 25% ICU available, the one that was -4.5% is now 0%. Lotta fatties in that area I guess.

Can't make the big money with 25% + ICU open. 

https://protect-public.hhs.gov/pages/hospital-utilization

Inpatient Beds

ICU Beds

221 inpatient beds occupied	25 inpatient ICU beds occupied
352 inpatient beds total	46 inpatient ICU beds total
37.22% of inpatient beds available	45.65% of inpatient ICU beds available

286 inpatient beds occupied	39 inpatient ICU beds occupied
444 inpatient beds total	70 inpatient ICU beds total
35.59% of inpatient beds available	44.29% of inpatient ICU beds available

[TimHauck 2,923]

On 8/9/2021 at 5:24 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah but they stopped doing that. So now what do you think? 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-border-deportations-prosecutions-deter-migration-biden-administration/

[TimHauck 2,923]

On 8/3/2021 at 1:46 PM, TimmySmith said:

  The tool denying the surge by the vaxxed by discounting inconvenient facts. To be expected.  The CDC telling vaxxed to wear masks inside, but nothing to see here.  Luckily the Delta is even less virulent than the previous super sniffles.  

Uh oh even the Ivermectin fan club is saying Delta is more virulent

 

 

And speaking of the FLCCC, here is one of its founding members encouraging getting vaccinated:

https://www.msnbc.com/craig-melvin/watch/texas-hospital-chief-we-re-fighting-two-wars-one-against-covid-the-other-against-stupidity-117985349552

[TimmySmith 2,782]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Uh oh even the Ivermectin fan club is saying Delta is more virulent

Uh-oh, the hacks are starting to realize that they may have murdered people by playing down Invermectin.

[lod001 1,344]

The CDC got busted by FL Health Dept, trying to double the actual # of cases. 

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/08/10/florida-accuses-cdc-inflating-covid-numbers-cdc-changes-tally/5558411001/

It was no mistake. it was on purpose.

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

6 minutes ago, lod001 said:

The CDC got busted by FL Health Dept, trying to double the actual # of cases. 

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/coronavirus/2021/08/10/florida-accuses-cdc-inflating-covid-numbers-cdc-changes-tally/5558411001/

It was no mistake. it was on purpose.

 

Federal agency reporting data on a pandemic divides by 2 instead of 3.  They are running a tight ship over there. 

[Fireballer 2,643]

These fukers are moonbats.  How much you wanna bet this kvnt isn't practicing what she preaches?

 

[jerryskids 6,846]

Yesterday I was listening to a podcast by Bret Weinstein and his wife; I don’t know the whole backstory but they are both evolutionary biologists and classic liberals but don’t toe the Leftist thought control/censorship line so they are a bit of pariahs to the left.

Anyway they were discussing some large study which showed clearly that the single strongest controllable comorbidity correlation is obesity.  And then the obvious question to anyone who thinks rationally:  why are we not strongly advocating measures to reduce obesity?  I mean, if Covid is so serious, wouldn’t we want to address the largest controllable factor?  And worst case as they pointed out, if the correlation shows to not be tied to causation, the “downside” is all of the known health benefits associated with reduced obesity.

The only answer which doesn’t involve a conspiracy theory is that our powers that be don’t want to risk offending obese people (and with them the woke mob).  Which brought up a discussion about how we need to be able to advocate healthy behaviors without having it perceived as offensive.  

Similar idea with Vitamin D; the relationship is not as clear, but again, it seems likely to help and has a lot of positives with no downside.  I suppose somebody could lay out in the sun until they turn into one giant melanoma, but getting some sun is a good thing, plus there are very cheap supplements.

I view these as examples of how the government is not behaving in a way consistent with Covid being a serious problem.  Similar to climate change and the lack of effort on nuclear as preventive.

[edjr 6,608]

26 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yesterday I was listening to a podcast by Bret Weinstein and his wife; I don’t know the whole backstory but they are both evolutionary biologists and classic liberals but don’t toe the Leftist thought control/censorship line so they are a bit of pariahs to the left.

Anyway they were discussing some large study which showed clearly that the single strongest controllable comorbidity correlation is obesity.  And then the obvious question to anyone who thinks rationally:  why are we not strongly advocating measures to reduce obesity?  I mean, if Covid is so serious, wouldn’t we want to address the largest controllable factor?  And worst case as they pointed out, if the correlation shows to not be tied to causation, the “downside” is all of the known health benefits associated with reduced obesity.

The only answer which doesn’t involve a conspiracy theory is that our powers that be don’t want to risk offending obese people (and with them the woke mob).  Which brought up a discussion about how we need to be able to advocate healthy behaviors without having it perceived as offensive.  

Similar idea with Vitamin D; the relationship is not as clear, but again, it seems likely to help and has a lot of positives with no downside.  I suppose somebody could lay out in the sun until they turn into one giant melanoma, but getting some sun is a good thing, plus there are very cheap supplements.

I view these as examples of how the government is not behaving in a way consistent with Covid being a serious problem.  Similar to climate change and the lack of effort on nuclear as preventive.

FAT SHAMER!!  Mike should ban you!

[lod001 1,344]

Fortunately someone reposted this. It's actually back when they 1st started lying about the numbers. The 600k is such BS. Which anyone with a brain, already knew.

 

 

[Fireballer 2,643]

Holy shat.  Imagine being this manipulated by gov and media.  People are almost treating Covid like a death sentence.  I'd also like her to cite her "benefits outweigh the risks" based on some data.  

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Holy shat.  Imagine being this manipulated by gov and media.  People are almost treating Covid like a death sentence.  I'd also like her to cite her "benefits outweigh the risks" based on some data.  

If she didn't have chest pains she would be standing out in traffic pissing off motorists  with other liberals in the name of blm. 

[listen2me 23 1,874]

Covid and vaccine debates aside.

It really is wild how fearful a chunk of humans have become through media fearmongering.  There seems to be way too many people out there who think covid is death.  It is amazing what slanted media can do to society.  My grandmother who isn't a crazy sky is falling liberal couldn't believe me when I said covid has a higher than 99% survival rate.  

[edjr 6,608]

On 8/9/2021 at 4:54 PM, lod001 said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9876581/Husband-73-wife-71-die-Covid-12-hours-other.html

Vax worked out like a champ for these 2. Double jabbed. Man if they just coulda gotten that booster jab in time.

Good call. Definitely better not having it

[edjr 6,608]

2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Covid and vaccine debates aside.

It really is wild how fearful a chunk of humans have become through media fearmongering.  There seems to be way too many people out there who think covid is death.  It is amazing what slanted media can do to society.  My grandmother who isn't a crazy sky is falling liberal couldn't believe me when I said covid has a higher than 99% survival rate.  

astounding how many people I see walking around Boston outside wearing a mask  

[TimHauck 2,923]

54 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yesterday I was listening to a podcast by Bret Weinstein and his wife; I don’t know the whole backstory but they are both evolutionary biologists and classic liberals but don’t toe the Leftist thought control/censorship line so they are a bit of pariahs to the left.

Anyway they were discussing some large study which showed clearly that the single strongest controllable comorbidity correlation is obesity.  And then the obvious question to anyone who thinks rationally:  why are we not strongly advocating measures to reduce obesity?  I mean, if Covid is so serious, wouldn’t we want to address the largest controllable factor?  And worst case as they pointed out, if the correlation shows to not be tied to causation, the “downside” is all of the known health benefits associated with reduced obesity.

The only answer which doesn’t involve a conspiracy theory is that our powers that be don’t want to risk offending obese people (and with them the woke mob).  Which brought up a discussion about how we need to be able to advocate healthy behaviors without having it perceived as offensive.  

Similar idea with Vitamin D; the relationship is not as clear, but again, it seems likely to help and has a lot of positives with no downside.  I suppose somebody could lay out in the sun until they turn into one giant melanoma, but getting some sun is a good thing, plus there are very cheap supplements.

I view these as examples of how the government is not behaving in a way consistent with Covid being a serious problem.  Similar to climate change and the lack of effort on nuclear as preventive.

Agree

[TimmySmith 2,782]

20 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Holy shat.  Imagine being this manipulated by gov and media.  People are almost treating Covid like a death sentence.  I'd also like her to cite her "benefits outweigh the risks" based on some data.  

1.5 - 2% of total of the pop, completely made up of half dead fatties and old people held together by a cocktail of medicines.  How'd you like to married her? 

[TimHauck 2,923]

25 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Covid and vaccine debates aside.

It really is wild how fearful a chunk of humans have become through media fearmongering.  There seems to be way too many people out there who think covid is death.  It is amazing what slanted media can do to society.  My grandmother who isn't a crazy sky is falling liberal couldn't believe me when I said covid has a higher than 99% survival rate.  

The fearmongering is on both sides unfortunately.  Probably about the same amount that think covid is death also think the vaccines are death.

And if your grandmother is over 70, it's less than a 99% survival rate.

[edjr 6,608]

43 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Holy shat.  Imagine being this manipulated by gov and media.  People are almost treating Covid like a death sentence.  I'd also like her to cite her "benefits outweigh the risks" based on some data.  

 

Hilarious that the freak vax deniers, will say that only .001 people that get covid die. What is the% of people that got the vax, die from the vax?

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The fearmongering is on both sides unfortunately.  Probably about the same amount that think covid is death also think the vaccines are death.

And if your grandmother is over 70, it's less than a 99% survival rate.

Ive heard more of my liberal friends be literally scared of dying from covid; these are healthy 40 year olds who've been vaccinated and STILL want their kids home and won't go to the grocery store. A friend of mine literally said, 'These non mask people are going to kill us all' when she saw a few at her kids' school last week. 

My more conservative friends don't seem to have this fear, even the ones who are vaccinated - yes they do exist. And some of them wear masks too. 

 

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

2 minutes ago, edjr said:

Hilarious that the freak vax deniers, will say that only .001 people that get covid die. What is the% of people that got the vax, die from the vax?

Only three people have died from the vaccination; the ones who got the blood clots. 

 

Right?     Come on, Ed...you know they don't believe you can die from the vaccination. 

[edjr 6,608]

Just now, TheNewGirl said:

Only three people have died from the vaccination; the ones who got the blood clots. 

 

Right?     Come on, Ed...you know they don't believe you can die from the vaccination. 

So what is the excuse for not getting it still? 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

There is fearmongering on both sides.  The left seems to focus on fears of COVID and the right seems to focus on fears of the vaccine.  It's just another things the two sides fight over.

[listen2me 23 1,874]

Just now, TimHauck said:

The fearmongering is on both sides unfortunately.  Probably about the same amount that think covid is death also think the vaccines are death.

And if your grandmother is over 70, it's less than a 99% survival rate.

1. It is on both sides but I don't think they are anywhere near close.

2. I told her that.  A little under 99% for her perhaps.  Her concern was over me not having a vaccine.  I told her I am fairly young, not obese, and pretty healthy.  And not for sure but believe I had it early on in the process.  I told her it is a bad flu that generally has hit elderly and obese people.  

She watches some news.

A. She didnt realize survival rate was that high, said but they are telling us how people are dying left and right how can it be 99%?

B.  She didn't really realize who it hit most. (Obese and elderly). 

All she got from the news is death and destruction.  Be afraid very afraid.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

There is fearmongering on both sides.  The left seems to focus on fears of COVID and the right seems to focus on fears of the vaccine.  It's just another things the two sides fight over.

And both are lying.  One lies so everyone will have to get the vaccine, the other lies so they won't have to get it. Just get it and shut up.