Coronavirus - Doomsday

[listen2me 23 1,953]

On 10/16/2021 at 7:27 PM, TimHauck said:

How do you know they were “2x” jabbed?  I  bet a lot of pro athletes got the J&J (such as the Yankees), which isn’t as effective against infection as Pfizer/Moderna, which isn’t as effective against infection of Delta compared to earlier strains.

So why is JandJ a certified vaccine in the USA?  I mean it doesn't have to be.  Why is it on the same level as the other if this is serious and it isn't as good?   How does that make sense? So people like you can now go cherry pick and say "well they may have had thr jandj which isn't as good? 

Every week vaccinated players test positive.   I may have missed it somewhere but has a non vaxxed player tested positive yet? I'd imagineit would be blasted all over media.  Is Cole Beasley ruining thr Bills season?  The vaccinated seem to be spreading it around.  Yet the moment a non vaxxed player tests positive they would blame any other positive test on them.  It is absolutely bat sheet crazy.

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8 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Vaccines are effective.

For a couple months. That is not the definition of a vaccine, hammerhead. This crap is a colonial failure as early treatment would've saved the 100k or so that actually died from it. Your take on this whole debacle has been a complete disaster.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

22 minutes ago, LOD01 said:

For a couple months. That is not the definition of a vaccine, hammerhead. This crap is a colonial failure as early treatment would've saved the 100k or so that actually died from it. Your take on this whole debacle has been a complete disaster.

He'll come back with "a couple of months is enough to get through a surge". Ignoring the fact that he has been passing on vaccine lies for a year. And other lies for longer than that. A dupe. 

Young people with natural immunity is the key to ending this. Always has been.

[Fireballer 2,678]

 

[listen2me 23 1,953]

25 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

 

I'd usually wait in enjoyment for the Liberal spin.  But we already know the drill.  "The vaccines never claimed to be 100%" " but hey lets make everyone get it because!"

They should count these as died by vaccine.  It is only fair since they have been counting anyone with a trace of covid in them as died by covid.  Even if they were hit by a bus.

[lod001 1,345]

Crap works so well Colin Powell got double jabbed and is dead. They say he's dead from covid but the truth is, he's dead from the jab. A total no win situation for the jab pimpers so they will take the lesser of 2 evils. 

Sure is effective!!!!!!!  Hilarious that soon after TimTard spouts off a well know figure dies form it's effectiveness.   Just another one of his miserable failures.

[lod001 1,345]

39 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I'd usually wait in enjoyment for the Liberal spin.  But we already know the drill.  "The vaccines never claimed to be 100%" " but hey lets make everyone get it because!"

They should count these as died by vaccine.  It is only fair since they have been counting anyone with a trace of covid in them as died by covid.  Even if they were hit by a bus.

Trust me, he's dead from the jab juice. 

[TimmySmith 2,783]

Need autopsy to see if he had antibodies.  

[lod001 1,345]

16 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Need autopsy to see if he had antibodies.  

They'll make his body disappear faster than Goodell made Brady cell phone disappear. 

[lod001 1,345]

The good news is Powell's symptoms were less because he got the juice.

[Utilit99 4,099]

I spent the last few days in Rhode Island. Just for change of scenery for us. We checked in at the hotel. None of the guests or hotel workers were wearing face coverings. There is a restaurant there we like so we set up some reservations. When we got there, the parking attendants were not wearing face coverings. Walked in to the restaurant and the place was full and the hostesses were not wearing face coverings. The restaurant is full and no customers coming or going were wearing face coverings. The only people wearing face coverings were 1 or two of the waitresses and it's a really big restaurant.

Went into a couple of the stores in the area. No workers or customers were wearing face coverings. 

It was really nice to see some normal people and businesses. Dang I didn't realize how much I missed that. A state full of happy people living normally. 

[Hawkeye21 2,456]

4 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

I spent the last few days in Rhode Island. Just for change of scenery for us. We checked in at the hotel. None of the guests or hotel workers were wearing face coverings. There is a restaurant there we like so we set up some reservations. When we got there, the parking attendants were not wearing face coverings. Walked in to the restaurant and the place was full and the hostesses were not wearing face coverings. The restaurant is full and no customers coming or going were wearing face coverings. The only people wearing face coverings were 1 or two of the waitresses and it's a really big restaurant.

Went into a couple of the stores in the area. No workers or customers were wearing face coverings. 

It was really nice to see some normal people and businesses. Dang I didn't realize how much I missed that. A state full of happy people living normally. 

That's pretty much what it's like here.  Very few face masks being worn anywhere.  Things have been pretty normal all year.

[lod001 1,345]

Just gonna store this here so I can read the thread later. Somewhat skeptical but fock, that is a lot of replies with cancer. But if this crap weakens the immune system over time like Dr Ryan Cole thinks may be happening, game over for a lot of people. 400 replies.

 

[DonS 3,319]

This op-ed does bring up an interesting point regarding when we'll reach "herd immunity".  Would be interesting to see how MSM and other folks spin this if it does miraculously come to pass like this:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biden-fauci-covid-surprise-polls-david-bossie

 

[TimHauck 3,315]

14 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

How so?  The only benefit of the vaccine is it reduces your illness if you get it for 6 months. That’s not a vaccine that’s a medicine 

Fake news.   The main "reduction in effectiveness" is against infection at around ~6 months, but even then it doesn't go to zero.    It remains extremely effective against hospitalization and death for longer.

 

14 hours ago, shorepatrol said:

You're a focking moron. It's not a "vaccine" when you can get and spread it. FOCK OFF

No, you are.  Most vaccines are not 100% effective.  Just because it's possible to still get it and spread it, doesn't mean that it's not less likely to do both compared to the unvaccinated.   

 

6 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

So why is JandJ a certified vaccine in the USA?  I mean it doesn't have to be.  Why is it on the same level as the other if this is serious and it isn't as good?   How does that make sense? So people like you can now go cherry pick and say "well they may have had thr jandj which isn't as good? 

Every week vaccinated players test positive.   I may have missed it somewhere but has a non vaxxed player tested positive yet? I'd imagineit would be blasted all over media.  Is Cole Beasley ruining thr Bills season?  The vaccinated seem to be spreading it around.  Yet the moment a non vaxxed player tests positive they would blame any other positive test on them.  It is absolutely bat sheet crazy.

Because it's still effective against hospitalization and death, and the fact that it's only 1 shot makes it more accessible.

I don't really follow the stories of who all tests positive in sports.   94% of the NFL is vaccinated (https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/resources/press-releases/nfl-covid-19-testing-results-and-vaccination-rates-sept-5-18-2021).   So because of sheer numbers, it's much more likely for vaccinated players to test positive.

 

3 hours ago, lod001 said:

Crap works so well Colin Powell got double jabbed and is dead. They say he's dead from covid but the truth is, he's dead from the jab. A total no win situation for the jab pimpers so they will take the lesser of 2 evils. 

Sure is effective!!!!!!!  Hilarious that soon after TimTard spouts off a well know figure dies form it's effectiveness.   Just another one of his miserable failures.

The number of total vaccinated covid deaths since January is equal to 7% of the covid deaths in the last 2 and a half months.

[TimmySmith 2,783]

1 hour ago, DonS said:

This op-ed does bring up an interesting point regarding when we'll reach "herd immunity".  Would be interesting to see how MSM and other folks spin this if it does miraculously come to pass like this:

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biden-fauci-covid-surprise-polls-david-bossie

 

And when you ask em "how many need the jab?".  They only answer, "more, more, more". 

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18 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Because it's still effective against hospitalization and death, and the fact that it's only 1 shot makes it more accessible.

I don't really follow the stories of who all tests positive in sports.   94% of the NFL is vaccinated (https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/resources/press-releases/nfl-covid-19-testing-results-and-vaccination-rates-sept-5-18-2021).   So because of sheer numbers, it's much more likely for vaccinated players to test positive.

Obviously.  

Coaches and players who are vaxxed test positive each week when they are basically only around 94% vaxxed people.  So they are spreading it around amongst the vaxxed.  People were outraged over Beasley's non vaccine stance.  Yet he hasn't teated positive while thr vaxxed around him are.  

Honest question.  What is the point of the vaccine? To save people from themselves?   Or to stop the spread? Or both?

[lod001 1,345]

1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said:

Obviously.  

Coaches and players who are vaxxed test positive each week when they are basically only around 94% vaxxed people.  So they are spreading it around amongst the vaxxed.  People were outraged over Beasley's non vaccine stance.  Yet he hasn't teated positive while thr vaxxed around him are.  

Honest question.  What is the point of the vaccine? To save people from themselves?   Or to stop the spread? Or both?

They would really like Beasley to go away right about now, along with Kyrie Irving.

[listen2me 23 1,953]

Just now, lod001 said:

They would really like Beasley to go away right about now, along with Kyrie Irving.

It is just wild how the NFL goes about it all.  Or any sports for that matter.  He was fined for not having a mask on while walking through thr facility.  Yet they can go out and physically contact eachother every Sunday and breath in eachother faces.  Like NBA players masking and sitting 6 feet apart lol.  Then going into the game unmasked and leaning all over eachother.  

Thr vaxxed are free to spread covid around as much as they want.   Thr moment Beasley were to test positive they were talking about forfeiting games or some craziness.  None of it makes any sense.  

I could be wrong but I haven't heard of 1 player qho is not vaccinated test positive for covid.  As Tim points out there are only 6% unvaccinated.  But 6% is still a big group of guys who test all the time.  You would think they would find one who tests positive.  Thr vaccinated seem to easily test positive for covid each week.  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,559]

45 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Fake news.   The main "reduction in effectiveness" is against infection at around ~6 months, but even then it doesn't go to zero.    It remains extremely effective against hospitalization and death for longer.

 

No, you are.  Most vaccines are not 100% effective.  Just because it's possible to still get it and spread it, doesn't mean that it's not less likely to do both compared to the unvaccinated.   

 

Because it's still effective against hospitalization and death, and the fact that it's only 1 shot makes it more accessible.

I don't really follow the stories of who all tests positive in sports.   94% of the NFL is vaccinated (https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/resources/press-releases/nfl-covid-19-testing-results-and-vaccination-rates-sept-5-18-2021).   So because of sheer numbers, it's much more likely for vaccinated players to test positive.

 

The number of total vaccinated covid deaths since January is equal to 7% of the covid deaths in the last 2 and a half months.

where did I say it goes to zero?

my point stands, it is not a vaccine, a vaccine has no reduction in effectiveness over decades much less 6 months

and once again, you make my point for me and you dont even realize it

effective against hospitalization and death.....ummm quick name another "vaccine" that does that....oh thats right it doesn't exist.  Even the flu vaccine which is moderately pointless is there to PREVENT you from getting the flu, and until the covid vaccine was considered the worst vaccine that exists

[lod001 1,345]

17 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

where did I say it goes to zero?

my point stands, it is not a vaccine, a vaccine has no reduction in effectiveness over decades much less 6 months

and once again, you make my point for me and you dont even realize it

effective against hospitalization and death.....ummm quick name another "vaccine" that does that....oh thats right it doesn't exist.  Even the flu vaccine which is moderately pointless is there to PREVENT you from getting the flu, and until the covid vaccine was considered the worst vaccine that exists

  If the CDC actually believe the BS they were spewing, they would not have changed the definition of 'vaccine' to fit the suckage of the jab juice'. Once they saw everyone stating it didn't fit the definition, they moved the goalposts.

It's sh1t like this why I don't believe anything they say, anything this tard administration says or the FDA.

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Fake news.   The main "reduction in effectiveness" is against infection at around ~6 months, but even then it doesn't go to zero.    It remains extremely effective against hospitalization and death for longer.

 

No, you are.  Most vaccines are not 100% effective.  Just because it's possible to still get it and spread it, doesn't mean that it's not less likely to do both compared to the unvaccinated.   

 

Because it's still effective against hospitalization and death, and the fact that it's only 1 shot makes it more accessible.

I don't really follow the stories of who all tests positive in sports.   94% of the NFL is vaccinated (https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/resources/press-releases/nfl-covid-19-testing-results-and-vaccination-rates-sept-5-18-2021).   So because of sheer numbers, it's much more likely for vaccinated players to test positive.

 

The number of total vaccinated covid deaths since January is equal to 7% of the covid deaths in the last 2 and a half months.

Oh.  Maybe that's why the share of those dying of covid, if we even have an actual number of that, is increasingly amongst the vaccinated.

The UK looks the same.

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,559]

you must be lying nothing else I can add

[lod001 1,345]

I would assume that the vaxxed are dropping dead because they were told their symptoms were less because of the jab juice and believe it so they are not seeking treatment which is what they should be doing. That they would be fine and to just stay home and rest. That's how they already they killed off 1000s of people. 'Go home and rest, if your symptoms get sever, go to the hospital.' Should bypass the hospital and just go to the morgue and climb in any available casket.

In FL, people are told that even if they took the juice and they have covid, they need to take the monoclonal antibodies.

Michigan and Mass are blue so they believe the lies and are now dying because the vaxxed have no protection if it was 6 months ago (really like 4 months). Those are the ones getting covid now and death numbers for jabbed will continue to rise as their protection wears off.

Reading a lot of tweets now of. 'I was vaccinated and I still ended up in the hospital, why?' 'I was told it would protect me & my symptoms would be less severe'. 

[lod001 1,345]

What happens in the heavily jabbed countries, like the UK, is they wont spread it until the juicer wears off. Then the juiced will start getting covid unless they follow my routine of wear a back pack with a container of jab juice with an IV drip. Then they will be good to go.....if they don't want to just get the 'rona and move on like Uttar Pradesh, Sweden, Japan, etc.  

[lod001 1,345]

Fantastic video showing the failed jab juice over the past 9 months or so.

100% effective in eroding the trust of the smart citizens of the USA.

[lod001 1,345]

J&J now 3% effective after 6 months. What a massive failure.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

3 minutes ago, lod001 said:

J&J now 3% effective after 6 months. What a massive failure.

It's still twice as effective as your ability to say anything intelligent. 

[DonS 3,319]

4 minutes ago, lod001 said:

J&J now 3% effective after 6 months. What a massive failure.

So you're telling me I have a chance? 

[lod001 1,345]

4 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

It's still twice as effective as your ability to say anything intelligent. 

PimpleD1ck trying to be funny. Massive failure, just like all 3 variations of jab juice.

[TimHauck 3,315]

3 hours ago, lod001 said:

J&J now 3% effective after 6 months. What a massive failure.

Link?

[TimHauck 3,315]

10 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

Obviously.  

Coaches and players who are vaxxed test positive each week when they are basically only around 94% vaxxed people.  So they are spreading it around amongst the vaxxed.  People were outraged over Beasley's non vaccine stance.  Yet he hasn't teated positive while thr vaxxed around him are.  

Honest question.  What is the point of the vaccine? To save people from themselves?   Or to stop the spread? Or both?

Beasley was previously infected right?  I’ve never doubted the strength of prior infection against reinfection and think confirmed prior infection within ~6 months to a year or so should count for any mandates.  Nonetheless, the previously infected are probably more likely to be unvaccinated and thus misleadingly lowering vaccine effectiveness estimates.

Only 94%, lol.  The fact that the league is so highly vaccinated is a big reason WHY the unvaccinated aren’t testing positive (in addition to likely natural immunity in many of those that aren’t vaccinated).  The Cardinals “outbreak” now is like 5 cases (including players and personnel), but in the most recent data there were 15 total positives among 2,408 players for a 0.6% positivity rate - https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/resources/press-releases/nfl-covid-19-testing-results-and-vaccination-rates-sept-19-oct-2-2021

The point of the vaccine is both to reduce the spread and reduce symptoms.  It does both.

10 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

It is just wild how the NFL goes about it all.  Or any sports for that matter.  He was fined for not having a mask on while walking through thr facility.  Yet they can go out and physically contact eachother every Sunday and breath in eachother faces.  Like NBA players masking and sitting 6 feet apart lol.  Then going into the game unmasked and leaning all over eachother.  

Thr vaxxed are free to spread covid around as much as they want.   Thr moment Beasley were to test positive they were talking about forfeiting games or some craziness.  None of it makes any sense.  

I could be wrong but I haven't heard of 1 player qho is not vaccinated test positive for covid.  As Tim points out there are only 6% unvaccinated.  But 6% is still a big group of guys who test all the time.  You would think they would find one who tests positive.  Thr vaccinated seem to easily test positive for covid each week.  

Lamar Jackson.

 

10 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

where did I say it goes to zero?

my point stands, it is not a vaccine, a vaccine has no reduction in effectiveness over decades much less 6 months

and once again, you make my point for me and you dont even realize it

effective against hospitalization and death.....ummm quick name another "vaccine" that does that....oh thats right it doesn't exist.  Even the flu vaccine which is moderately pointless is there to PREVENT you from getting the flu, and until the covid vaccine was considered the worst vaccine that exists

You said “it reduces your illness if you get it for 6 months.”  Is that not implying that after 6 months it doesn’t reduce your illness?

Lol, the flu vaccine is much worse than the covid vaccine.  The covid vaccine is more effective at preventing infection than the flu vaccine.  It’s just much more effective at preventing hospitalization and death.

 

9 hours ago, Casual Observer said:

Oh.  Maybe that's why the share of those dying of covid, if we even have an actual number of that, is increasingly amongst the vaccinated.

The UK looks the same.

 

The UK and MA in particular are highly vaccinated.  When most of the population especially the vulnerable population are vaccinated, most of the deaths will be vaccinated.  Maths.

Lol at using charts of cases on the last 2 charts.  That’s cute.

 

7 hours ago, lod001 said:

I would assume that the vaxxed are dropping dead because they were told their symptoms were less because of the jab juice and believe it so they are not seeking treatment which is what they should be doing. That they would be fine and to just stay home and rest. That's how they already they killed off 1000s of people. 'Go home and rest, if your symptoms get sever, go to the hospital.' Should bypass the hospital and just go to the morgue and climb in any available casket.

In FL, people are told that even if they took the juice and they have covid, they need to take the monoclonal antibodies.

Michigan and Mass are blue so they believe the lies and are now dying because the vaxxed have no protection if it was 6 months ago (really like 4 months). Those are the ones getting covid now and death numbers for jabbed will continue to rise as their protection wears off.

Reading a lot of tweets now of. 'I was vaccinated and I still ended up in the hospital, why?' 'I was told it would protect me & my symptoms would be less severe'. 

So FL, where the recent wave of deaths was almost double their prior peak = doing good

And MA, where the recent wave of deaths is less than 25% of the winter wave and less than 10% of the spring 2020 wave = doing bad?

Lol, lod wrong again, per usual.

[Casual Observer 597]

6 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Beasley was previously infected right?  I’ve never doubted the strength of prior infection against reinfection and think confirmed prior infection within ~6 months to a year or so should count for any mandates.  Nonetheless, the previously infected are probably more likely to be unvaccinated and thus misleadingly lowering vaccine effectiveness estimates.

Only 94%, lol.  The fact that the league is so highly vaccinated is a big reason WHY the unvaccinated aren’t testing positive (in addition to likely natural immunity in many of those that aren’t vaccinated).  The Cardinals “outbreak” now is like 5 cases (including players and personnel), but in the most recent data there were 15 total positives among 2,408 players for a 0.6% positivity rate - https://www.nfl.com/playerhealthandsafety/resources/press-releases/nfl-covid-19-testing-results-and-vaccination-rates-sept-19-oct-2-2021

The point of the vaccine is both to reduce the spread and reduce symptoms.  It does both.

Lamar Jackson.

 

You said “it reduces your illness if you get it for 6 months.”  Is that not implying that after 6 months it doesn’t reduce your illness?

Lol, the flu vaccine is much worse than the covid vaccine.  The covid vaccine is more effective at preventing infection than the flu vaccine.  It’s just much more effective at preventing hospitalization and death.

 

The UK and MA in particular are highly vaccinated.  When most of the population especially the vulnerable population are vaccinated, most of the deaths will be vaccinated.  Maths.

Lol at using charts of cases on the last 2 charts.  That’s cute.

 

So FL, where the recent wave of deaths was almost double their prior peak = doing good

And MA, where the recent wave of deaths is less than 25% of the winter wave and less than 10% of the spring 2020 wave = doing bad?

Lol, lod wrong again, per usual.

Tim:  "The vaccine reduces spread."

Data:  The vaccine does not reduce spread.

Sorry you don't like the numbers, Tim, but they don't support your position.  The conversation was about effectiveness and duration of vaccine benefits, which you admitted wanes at around 6 months.  The data from those nasty charts supports that conclusion and actually supports that it wanes at around 3 months.  When the data doesn't support your view, you try to re-frame the conversation by applying some different standard as you have done numerous times in this thread.  Even proponents of the vaccine admitted that the vaccinated still can get and spread COVID and have for some time.  Now, the vaccinated are experiencing infection and death at levels approaching or greater than previous spikes.  You say, "Well, of course that population is highly vaccinated", while completely missing the point about vaccine effectiveness, or more appropriately, vaccine ineffectiveness.  You're a bullshit peddler, Tim.  Go back to footballgheys.

[Fireballer 2,678]

Health officials flat out lying.  But it's just semantics with what they mean by "risk" if called out on it.

 

[TimHauck 3,315]

2 hours ago, Casual Observer said:

Tim:  "The vaccine reduces spread."

Data:  The vaccine does not reduce spread.

Sorry you don't like the numbers, Tim, but they don't support your position.  The conversation was about effectiveness and duration of vaccine benefits, which you admitted wanes at around 6 months.  The data from those nasty charts supports that conclusion and actually supports that it wanes at around 3 months.  When the data doesn't support your view, you try to re-frame the conversation by applying some different standard as you have done numerous times in this thread.  Even proponents of the vaccine admitted that the vaccinated still can get and spread COVID and have for some time.  Now, the vaccinated are experiencing infection and death at levels approaching or greater than previous spikes.  You say, "Well, of course that population is highly vaccinated", while completely missing the point about vaccine effectiveness, or more appropriately, vaccine ineffectiveness.  You're a bullshit peddler, Tim.  Go back to footballgheys.

The vaccinated can get and spread covid.

The vaccine reduces spread.

Both of those statements are true.   Not sure why you idiots think that just because something isn't 100% effective, that means it's 0% effective. 

Saying the "vaccinated are experiencing death at levels approaching or greater than previous spikes" is an outright lie.  GTFOH with that sh1t.  Go back to pretending like you're a genius because you predicted that a wave of cases/deaths would eventually come back down.

 

[Cdub100 3,995]

2 hours ago, Casual Observer said:

Tim:  "The vaccine reduces spread."

Data:  The vaccine does not reduce spread.

Sorry you don't like the numbers, Tim, but they don't support your position.  The conversation was about effectiveness and duration of vaccine benefits, which you admitted wanes at around 6 months.  The data from those nasty charts supports that conclusion and actually supports that it wanes at around 3 months.  When the data doesn't support your view, you try to re-frame the conversation by applying some different standard as you have done numerous times in this thread.  Even proponents of the vaccine admitted that the vaccinated still can get and spread COVID and have for some time.  Now, the vaccinated are experiencing infection and death at levels approaching or greater than previous spikes.  You say, "Well, of course that population is highly vaccinated", while completely missing the point about vaccine effectiveness, or more appropriately, vaccine ineffectiveness.  You're a bullshit peddler, Tim.  Go back to footballgheys.

It's the same thing with masks. It's weird how we have the same argument over and over again.

Per the CDC - at the very best masks slowed the spread in on county by 1.5%

St. Fauci cult - MaSk WOrK 

Per the CDC - Whoops the vaccines aren't as effective and are worthless after a couple of months

St. Fauci Cult - VaCCiNs WOrK  

[TimmySmith 2,783]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

Health officials flat out lying.  But it's just semantics with what they mean by "risk" if called out on it.

 

Our resident liar didn't weigh in on this. And after he keeps talking about age.  There is no mention of "health" in the ad, which we all know is the biggest factor of all.  Higher than vax status.  Carefully crafted. 

Of course 20-25% of new cases were vaxxed.  So much for liar's 90-95%.

[Utilit99 4,099]

This sums up the past couple years. An oldie but a goodie. It can fit in any thread you want.  

 

[TimHauck 3,315]

59 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Our resident liar didn't weigh in on this. And after he keeps talking about age.  There is no mention of "health" in the ad, which we all know is the biggest factor of all.  Higher than vax status.  Carefully crafted. 

Of course 20-25% of new cases were vaxxed.  So much for liar's 90-95%.

The GovCanHealth one isn't lying.  The Saskatchewan one is definitely misleading though.   But that's in Canada, we're in the US and Canada has a higher vaccination rate.   The 90-95% I stated was deaths, not cases.

And health isn't the biggest factor (other than vaccine status) for death.  Age is.   Just like it is for pretty much all causes of death.

 

[TimmySmith 2,783]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

And health isn't the biggest factor (other than vaccine status) for death.  Age is.   Just like it is for pretty much all causes of death.

Health is a bigger factor, it just so happens that older people are less healthy.   An 80 year old with no heart, lung and kidney issues will sail through covid much easier than a 400 lb, 50 year old.