Coronavirus - Doomsday

[TimHauck 2,724]

8 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Keep fighting the good fight Tim!

As more and more of the truth gets revealed over the years people like you will look stupid.  Good thing for you is, over time people forget what was said/done or don't care.  

Normals said the counting of covid deaths was highly suspect from the jump.  The crazies wanted them silenced.   

It was overcounted by about 10% until the end of 2021, which I’ve been saying for years.

[Ultra Max Power 214]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

CDC tracked both “with Covid” and deaths where it was the underlying cause on the death certificate.  Through the end of 2021, that # was around 90%+.  Starting in 2022 it quickly shifted to about 2/3.

This is from someone who has been critical of the government (who also shows that you are being disingenuous by cutting off the first paragraph which shows the NYT quote was only referring to “recent weeks”)

 

 

Yes thats the point... The CDCs number is 33% higher than it should be TODAY.  The other study linked explains they changed the death metric in mid 2022 (goes along with the graph) to not include deaths within 30 days as covid deaths.  Meaning they were doing it before and had it as an underlying cause.  

And those are the CDCs official covid numbers.  

[TimHauck 2,724]

3 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

Yes thats the point... The CDCs number is 33% higher than it should be TODAY.  The other study linked explains they changed the death metric in mid 2022 (goes along with the graph) to not include deaths within 30 days as covid deaths.  Meaning they were doing it before and had it as an underlying cause.  

And those are the CDCs official covid numbers.  

What study are you referring to?  The CDC did not change anything, they track both.  But once Omicron hit which was much more contagious, the % of deaths that had an incidental Covid infection increased significantly.

[jerryskids 6,714]

30 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

It says I don’t believe the results are actually accurate.  

Didn't some large percentage of democrats think like 20% or 40% of people who got Covid died?

[League Champion 1,909]

At least the vaccinated can't get or spread COVID. 

[TimHauck 2,724]

13 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Didn't some large percentage of democrats think like 20% or 40% of people who got Covid died?

41% of Dems thought the chance of Covid hospitalization was 50% or greater, compared to 28% of Republicans.

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,248]

6 hours ago, Ultra Max Power said:

NYT is now promoting conspiracy theories...

"The official number [of Covid-19 deaths] is probably an exaggeration because it includes some people who had [the] virus when they died even though it was not the underlying cause of death," 

Yeah. I was on that from jump. Tim disagreed. 

[League Champion 1,909]

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

The first 3 to 4 months Covid happened was weird and scary, I knew a couple older people that died and one of my friends (mid 40’s) who had to go to the hospital. 

With that said, looking back our government, healthcare and community leaders shiot the bed.  They completely buckled under pressure or used it for self gain. 

Either way unbelievably horrible response.  You either learn and adapt or you make all the same mistakes again, 

[League Champion 1,909]

5 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

With that said, looking back our government, healthcare and community leaders shiot the bed.  They completely buckled under pressure or used it for self gain. 

Either way unbelievably horrible response.  You either learn and adapt or you make all the same mistakes again, 

Some people could see it at the time and others fell for it hook line and sinker. Some are still falling for it. 

[League Champion 1,909]

 

[TimHauck 2,724]

51 minutes ago, League Champion said:

 

He didn’t become anti-vax until later in life after he and his children were already vaccinated.  He has told people not to get vaccinated:

 

 

And don’t forget this:

 

 

[League Champion 1,909]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

He has told people not to get vaccinated:

And he was right all along. Remember all the BS about out how you couldn't spread or get COVID if you were vaccinated? Remember the backlash for not being vaccinated? Losing your job, you can't go here, can't go there? And none of it mattered because vaccinated or not, you can still spread COVID. What a joke. 

Remember how we were told that there would be makeshift morgues in the streets and warehouses converted into field hospitals? Remember how they blew up our whole economy when Democrat cities completely shut down? The world must quarantine, remember that BS. 

Well here I am, unvaccinated and feeling just fine. I've had COVID at least 3 times that I know of. Do you realize that gullible A-Holes are still getting shots and wearing masks?? The fear is still there. 

You can blast him but he was right all along, as were others. 

[TimHauck 2,724]

8 minutes ago, League Champion said:

And he was right all along. Remember all the BS about out how you couldn't spread or get COVID if you were vaccinated? Remember the backlash for not being vaccinated? Losing your job, you can't go here, can't go there? And none of it mattered because vaccinated or not, you can still spread COVID. What a joke. 

Remember how we were told that there would be makeshift morgues in the streets and warehouses converted into field hospitals? Remember how they blew up our whole economy when Democrat cities completely shut down? The world must quarantine, remember that BS. 

Well here I am, unvaccinated and feeling just fine. I've had COVID at least 3 times that I know of. Do you realize that gullible A-Holes are still getting shots and wearing masks?? The fear is still there. 

You can blast him but he was right all along, as were others. 

So you agree he lied under oath, cool. I wasn’t talking about just the Covid vaccine.

BTW looks like you forgot to log into Blue Horseshoe again.

[League Champion 1,909]

Just now, TimHauck said:

So you agree he lied under oath, cool. I wasn’t talking about just the Covid vaccine.

BTW looks like your forgot to log into Blue Horseshoe again.

Tell us about your Vaccines then. You seem to know what's best for everyone around here. 

Do they make a vaccine to keep you and GUTTERBOY away from children? 

[TimHauck 2,724]

On 7/19/2023 at 1:59 PM, TimHauck said:

What study are you referring to?  The CDC did not change anything, they track both.  But once Omicron hit which was much more contagious, the % of deaths that had an incidental Covid infection increased significantly.

@Ultra Max Power can you clarify what study you were referring to?

[TimHauck 2,724]

7 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Tell us about your Vaccines then. You seem to know what's best for everyone around here. 

Do they make a vaccine to keep you and GUTTERBOY away from children? 

 

 

[Ultra Max Power 214]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

@Ultra Max Power can you clarify what study you were referring to?

The recommendation in the other study linked was that the CDC shouldn't use deaths 30 days post infection as a covid related death (mid 2022) because that was how they are counting it and its causing an overinflation of numbers.  

I don't know if the CDC actually changed anything in mid 2022.  The feeling I get is that they relaxed what they considered an "underlying factor in a covid death" around that time. 

There was a very large push early on that even have covid was an underlying factor, regardless of comorbidities.  Since covid could be argued to have made them worse, it was still a covid death.   

[TimHauck 2,724]

2 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

The recommendation in the other study linked was that the CDC shouldn't use deaths 30 days post infection as a covid related death (mid 2022) because that was how they are counting it and its causing an overinflation of numbers.  

I don't know if the CDC actually changed anything in mid 2022.  The feeling I get is that they relaxed what they considered an "underlying factor in a covid death" around that time. 

There was a very large push early on that even have covid was an underlying factor, regardless of comorbidities.  Since covid could be argued to have made them worse, it was still a covid death.   

What other study linked?

I prefer to use facts, not feelings.

[Ultra Max Power 214]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What other study linked?

I prefer to use facts, not feelings.

Maintaining the Utility of COVID-19 Pandemic Severity Surveillance: Evaluation of Trends in Attributable Deaths and Development and Validation of a Measurement Tool | Clinical Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic (oup.com)

The whole point of "facts" is that the number was being overreported.  Liberal mecca NYT times is even pointing this out now.  

I'm stating I believe the %s are falling in part to hospitals being less likely to link covid as a cause of death in the same way they had historically.

I've also provided several times the personal example of a family member passing due to covid who never once tested positive, but according to the doctors "showed all the symptoms of a covid infection"  

In your opinion should that have been a covid death?  Because it was recorded as such.  

[TimHauck 2,724]

6 hours ago, Ultra Max Power said:

Maintaining the Utility of COVID-19 Pandemic Severity Surveillance: Evaluation of Trends in Attributable Deaths and Development and Validation of a Measurement Tool | Clinical Infectious Diseases | Oxford Academic (oup.com)

The whole point of "facts" is that the number was being overreported.  Liberal mecca NYT times is even pointing this out now.  

I'm stating I believe the %s are falling in part to hospitals being less likely to link covid as a cause of death in the same way they had historically.

I've also provided several times the personal example of a family member passing due to covid who never once tested positive, but according to the doctors "showed all the symptoms of a covid infection"  

In your opinion should that have been a covid death?  Because it was recorded as such.  

Would need some more information.   I assume you’re implying they tested negative?  How many times were they tested?  How long did they have symptoms before being tested?  Many Covid deaths occurred after the person no longer actually had the virus.

So your theory is that hospitals across the country all changed how they recorded covid as the cause of death all at the same time?  No, Omicron happened which caused more incidental deaths, which was literally called out as a reason in that study (and by the NYT).   It also caused more incidental hospitalizations as well, which of course has nothing to do with death certificates.

 

 

[League Champion 1,909]

Vax up Kids!

[League Champion 1,909]

https://www.aol.com/cdc-prepares-possible-rsv-covid-100000899.html

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is warning of a potential surge in respiratory syncytial virus, flu and Covid in what could be a "tripledemic."

[nobody 2,649]

I wonder if the workshopped tridemic before going with tripledemic.

[lickin_starfish 1,919]

37 minutes ago, nobody said:

I wonder if the workshopped tridemic before going with tripledemic.

It's in preparation for election season. Gotta have an excuse for those drop boxes.

[Gepetto 1,347]

On 7/21/2023 at 2:10 PM, TimHauck said:

Many Covid deaths occurred after the person no longer actually had the virus.

 

 

Say what now? That sentence pretty much sums up this entire fiasco.

[League Champion 1,909]

Just now, Gepetto said:

Say what now? That sentence pretty much sums up this entire fiasco.

Good thing Tim is 10 boosters deep. He's got nothing to worry about 

[Gepetto 1,347]

6 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Good thing Tim is 10 boosters deep. He's got nothing to worry about 

He's actually not boosted but I would still like to see his response to what I quoted.

[lickin_starfish 1,919]

9 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Good thing Tim is 10 boosters deep. He's got nothing to worry about 

He's afraid of the boosters that he claims are so safe. Scared like his kid at bath time.

[TimHauck 2,724]

22 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Say what now? That sentence pretty much sums up this entire fiasco.

No dummy.  Most of the “from covid” deaths occur about ~20 days after the person actually got Covid.  This is well established, and is commonly from things like pneumonia that was caused by the Covid.  This is why the claim that “only 6% of deaths were from Covid alone!” is so stupid, because most people died from complications as a result of the Covid.

But most people only actually test positive for like ~7 days, although that can vary.  So by the time they die, they don’t actually have the virus anymore.

[TimHauck 2,724]

The Geek Club:  Covid death stats are BS because they just counted everyone as a Covid death if they tested positive within 30 days

Also the Geek Club:  anyone that dies at any point after taking the vaccine was killed by the vaccine

[Casual Observer 597]

On 7/21/2023 at 3:10 PM, TimHauck said:

Would need some more information.   I assume you’re implying they tested negative?  How many times were they tested?  How long did they have symptoms before being tested?  Many Covid deaths occurred after the person no longer actually had the virus.

So your theory is that hospitals across the country all changed how they recorded covid as the cause of death all at the same time?  No, Omicron happened which caused more incidental deaths, which was literally called out as a reason in that study (and by the NYT).   It also caused more incidental hospitalizations as well, which of course has nothing to do with death certificates.

 

 

Any chart that purports to show rising hospitalizations due the omicron strain is a fraud.

[Casual Observer 597]

52 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

The Geek Club:  Covid death stats are BS because they just counted everyone as a Covid death if they tested positive within 30 days

Also the Geek Club:  anyone that dies at any point after taking the vaccine was killed by the vaccine

Tim,

Did the Gates Foundation give you a list of Twitter users and the dates of their tweets that you can so easily pull up and post on this site?  Did you tell Bill himself that your efforts here have been a massive failure?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,248]

5 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

Tim,

Did the Gates Foundation give you a list of Twitter users and the dates of their tweets that you can so easily pull up and post on this site?  Did you tell Bill himself that your efforts here have been a massive failure?

Tim thought the stats were real the whole time. What a maroon! Lol. 

[TimHauck 2,724]

14 minutes ago, Casual Observer said:

Any chart that purports to show rising hospitalizations due the omicron strain is a fraud.

That’s not what the chart shows numbnuts.  It’s just showing the percentage that are not being “primarily treated for the virus.”   Hoeg is a bit anticovidvax TBH.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,311]

derp derp derp 

[League Champion 1,909]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

derp derp derp

Go figure 

[Reality 3,121]

18 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

derp derp derp 

Of course.

[Casual Observer 597]

9 hours ago, TimHauck said:

That’s not what the chart shows numbnuts.  It’s just showing the percentage that are not being “primarily treated for the virus.”   Hoeg is a bit anticovidvax TBH.

Oh good, perhaps now we can put to rest the fraud you've been pushing about Omicron being deadlier than the prior strains, which you've done several times here.  Tough to keep track of your lies when you lie all the time.

[Casual Observer 597]

9 hours ago, Casual Observer said:

Tim,

Did the Gates Foundation give you a list of Twitter users and the dates of their tweets that you can so easily pull up and post on this site?  Did you tell Bill himself that your efforts here have been a massive failure?

I'm still waiting for an answer to this one, Tim.