Ultra Max Power 214 Posted January 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, lod001 said: What about 'medium covid'. Oh boy, yeah this is new to me too. Time to do some research as I feel like the idea of long covid is probably real, but several methods to define it have been poorly done. Example is someone with multiple comorbidities gets a mild case of covid. Dies 6 months later of one of those issues and gets lumped into "long covid" because the assumption it exacerbated one of their conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Ultra Max Power said: Oh boy, yeah this is new to me too. Time to do some research as I feel like the idea of long covid is probably real, but several methods to define it have been poorly done. Example is someone with multiple comorbidities gets a mild case of covid. Dies 6 months later of one of those issues and gets lumped into "long covid" because the assumption it exacerbated one of their conditions. I just read the article. It's not bad, and is actually basically saying what I did, just giving it a stupid name of "medium covid" so that anticovidvaxxers can make fun of it without actually looking at the data. It claims "long covid" is probably real, just that it doesn't look to be killing people. But people do die at a higher rate in the initial weeks (like 3 months max) following getting covid. This is backed up by the fact that spikes in total deaths track closely with spikes in covid deaths. But feel free to share some more anecdotes that you have. https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Weekly-Provisional-Counts-of-Deaths-by-State-and-S/muzy-jte6/data Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 Two visualizations here: Total deaths: Covid deaths: Again, spikes in total deaths clearly track closely with covid deaths. Pretty easy to see if you're not blind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360 Posted January 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Two visualizations here: Total deaths: Covid deaths: Again, spikes in total deaths clearly track closely with covid deaths. Pretty easy to see if you're not blind. so basically by deaths, the jab is doing nothing its weakened via mutation, and the most at risk people died during the first two rounds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, lod001 said: We are getting their slowly with of course no help form this corrupt govt. Lol, Malhotra is a psycho. This is him quoting himself where he hijacked a segment that was about something else. Dude is a confirmed liar, even made up receiving an award: https://snowdon.substack.com/p/the-downward-spiral-of-aseem-malhotra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: so basically by deaths, the jab is doing nothing its weakened via mutation, and the most at risk people died during the first two rounds Not all of the most at risk died during the first 2 rounds because many of them were able to avoid catching it all. Not really the case with Omicron. Delta was a mutation that was more deadly, and the data was pretty clear that the vaccines were effective during Delta. The oldest age groups had by far the most deaths in 2020, but in 2021 it was actually worse in the middle-aged groups that were less vaccinated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted January 13, 2023 Maybe its the shoes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360 Posted January 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Not all of the most at risk died during the first 2 rounds because many of them were able to avoid catching it all. Not really the case with Omicron. Delta was a mutation that was more deadly, and the data was pretty clear that the vaccines were effective during Delta. The oldest age groups had by far the most deaths in 2020, but in 2021 it was actually worse in the middle-aged groups that were less vaccinated. You really wrote this confirming exactly what I said and don’t even realize it old people died the most during the first round then it mutated and killed some more. Now it’s mutated again and those old people aren’t around and a huge batch of the most compromised died in the second round. It’s not going to kill as many as there just aren’t as many to kill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted January 13, 2023 Well look at that. This pile of sh1t (Leana Wen) finally admits what I told timtard was happening and he tried his best to lie and say it wasn't happening. Now one of the vaxtards that he worships has admitted it. Same vaxtard that said those of us unjabbed should be locked in out homes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted January 13, 2023 3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: You really wrote this confirming exactly what I said and don’t even realize it old people died the most during the first round then it mutated and killed some more. Now it’s mutated again and those old people aren’t around and a huge batch of the most compromised died in the second round. It’s not going to kill as many as there just aren’t as many to kill He's too stupid to understand virology 101. A virus mutates in order to survive. Thus it gets weaker. He believes the COMPLETELY failed and useless jabs were the savior when what you said is actually true along with the fact that as it weakness it can no longer kill as it once did. It was a bad virus at the start, it weakened and the deaths dropped at the same time they were scaring people into taking the jab, thus making it appear the jabs were saving people. We now know that they did no such thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, lod001 said: Well look at that. This pile of sh1t (Leana Wen) finally admits what I told timtard was happening and he tried his best to lie and say it wasn't happening. Now one of the vaxtards that he worships has admitted it. Same vaxtard that said those of us unjabbed should be locked in out homes. The article is clear that this is a relatively new development. It wasn’t that way the whole time like you’ve claimed , so thanks for proving yourself wrong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, lod001 said: He's too stupid to understand virology 101. A virus mutates in order to survive. Thus it gets weaker. He believes the COMPLETELY failed and useless jabs were the savior when what you said is actually true along with the fact that as it weakness it can no longer kill as it once did. It was a bad virus at the start, it weakened and the deaths dropped at the same time they were scaring people into taking the jab, thus making it appear the jabs were saving people. We now know that they did no such thing. Delta wasn't weaker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,253 Posted January 13, 2023 [ForrestGump] And just like that....the CDC became right wing propaganda.[/ForrestGump] Has Science(Faucci) told us to disregard this yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360 Posted January 13, 2023 Finally following the science is a thing again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360 Posted January 13, 2023 49 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Delta wasn't weaker If only they ran a ticker so we could see how bad it was under Biden Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,570 Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, TimHauck said: The article is clear that this is a relatively new development. It wasn’t that way the whole time like you’ve claimed , so thanks for proving yourself wrong Yeah, it used to be that you didn't even need to have Covid to be called a Covid death. You just had to crash your motorcycle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: If only they ran a ticker so we could see how bad it was under Biden so you agree Delta wasn't weaker? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Reality said: for persons 65 and older, and is only referring to the Pfizer bivalent vaccine (not Moderna) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/bivalent-boosters.html nothing wrong with an investigation though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360 Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: so you agree Delta wasn't weaker? Yes Biden with the useless jab killed more than trump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Yes Biden with the useless jab killed more than trump So Biden killed more than Trump using the Trump vaccine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,253 Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, TimHauck said: So Biden killed more than Trump using the Trump vaccine? I like it....now it will be the "Trump Vaccine".....thank you..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 6 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: You really wrote this confirming exactly what I said and don’t even realize it old people died the most during the first round then it mutated and killed some more. Now it’s mutated again and those old people aren’t around and a huge batch of the most compromised died in the second round. It’s not going to kill as many as there just aren’t as many to kill Again, you're not factoring in the fact that for it to kill the most compromised, they have to catch it first. But after "the first 2 rounds," there was probably still about half the country that hadn't caught it at all. At this point, it's true that there aren't as many to kill, but that was only after Omicron swept through and now almost everyone has probably had it. And although Omicron may have been weaker, it was far more contagious which is why there was still a death spike in January 2022. But if all the most compromised died first, then the deaths should have gradually decreased proportionately, but that wasn't even close to happening, as some of the middle-aged groups actually had more deaths during Delta than the earlier waves whereas the oldest groups had less. Still, there are many studies showing that the vaccines were extremely effective against death during Delta (not as many for Omicron but there are a few that I posted earlier). But feel free to continue denying the data, Mr. Most Centrist poster here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: I like it....now it will be the "Trump Vaccine".....thank you..... @RaiderHaters Revenge has called it the Trump vaccine previously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,253 Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: @RaiderHaters Revenge has called it the Trump vaccine previously Perhaps, but I think we will see that term become a CNN/MCNBC term used with vigor, and I am confident the Democrats are telling them as much at this point... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, RLLD said: Perhaps, but I think we will see that term become a CNN/MCNBC term used with vigor I don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,253 Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: I don't. I am going to make a PREDICTION here that the media allies of the Democrats, notably their propogandists at CNN and MSNBC, will now start to associate the ongoing discoveries around the issues with the vaccine to Trump..... This is just the first "discovery", and let me be clear that I think the pharma companies already know there are problems. and as more is brought to light the Democrats and their media puppets will start to point it all at Trump..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360 Posted January 13, 2023 13 minutes ago, TimHauck said: @RaiderHaters Revenge has called it the Trump vaccine previously I don’t support trump or the vaccine. They both suck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360 Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: I am going to make a PREDICTION here that the media allies of the Democrats, notably their propogandists at CNN and MSNBC, will now start to associate the ongoing discoveries around the issues with the vaccine to Trump..... This is just the first "discovery", and let me be clear that I think the pharma companies already know there are problems. and as more is brought to light the Democrats and their media puppets will start to point it all at Trump..... Oh you can guarantee there will be mass stories about how trump rushes this thru Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,253 Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Oh you can guarantee there will be mass stories about how trump rushes this thru I knew there was an issue as soon as I read stuff like this. It was clear from this move that they knew problems were going to arise and they were getting ahead of it, telling their bought Democrats to protect them..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,906 Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: I am going to make a PREDICTION here that the media allies of the Democrats, notably their propogandists at CNN and MSNBC, will now start to associate the ongoing discoveries around the issues with the vaccine to Trump..... This is just the first "discovery", and let me be clear that I think the pharma companies already know there are problems. and as more is brought to light the Democrats and their media puppets will start to point it all at Trump..... This is not the fist "discovery." The myocarditis issue was known by like April 2021, and the J&J vaccine was paused at one point Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted January 13, 2023 31 minutes ago, RLLD said: I am going to make a PREDICTION here that the media allies of the Democrats, notably their propogandists at CNN and MSNBC, will now start to associate the ongoing discoveries around the issues with the vaccine to Trump..... This is just the first "discovery", and let me be clear that I think the pharma companies already know there are problems. and as more is brought to light the Democrats and their media puppets will start to point it all at Trump..... Yup, tough to keep covering up the issues considering the amount. They'll need to get out ahead of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,499 Posted January 14, 2023 44 minutes ago, TimHauck said: I don't. You get your boosters yet? No? Stfu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted January 14, 2023 19 hours ago, RLLD said: I am going to make a PREDICTION here that the media allies of the Democrats, notably their propogandists at CNN and MSNBC, will now start to associate the ongoing discoveries around the issues with the vaccine to Trump..... This is just the first "discovery", and let me be clear that I think the pharma companies already know there are problems. and as more is brought to light the Democrats and their media puppets will start to point it all at Trump..... I said that nearly a year ago. Its the last stand for the psycho democrats now that the jab juice has been found to be a killer and a complete disaster as I predicted from the get go, they will blame Trump for it going into the 2024 election, saying that he is responsible for all the jab deaths and adverse reactions. Why is that idiot timtard even commenting any=more since he has been wrong at eveything jab related. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted January 14, 2023 19 hours ago, TimHauck said: for persons 65 and older, and is only referring to the Pfizer bivalent vaccine (not Moderna) https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/bivalent-boosters.html nothing wrong with an investigation though No one forgets that you claimed it was safe. That people were not dying from it, that adverse reactions were overblown. You cannot get on board with ANY adverse reaction or jab killing information. The real doctors that said this was going to happen were the same ones you claimed were all nuts and liars while you pimped garbage clowns trying to say it's safe like criminal fauci and that sutpid fock with the glasses. You are a complete idiot and not someone that ANYONE should ever listen to. Now go get your booster and let it do what it does. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted January 14, 2023 People are still lining up to kill themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted January 14, 2023 14 hours ago, lod001 said: Maybe its the shoes! This is (potentially) hilarious. Is thsi real? What is the story with the collpasing journalists? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,344 Posted January 14, 2023 23 minutes ago, Voltaire said: This is (potentially) hilarious. Is thsi real? What is the story with the collpasing journalists? oh, I think down deep, you know. They are all jabbed. Now there may be a person (in the video) who actually collapsed from something else but this is what is going on in their bodies that is causing them to pass out. Yeah, this IS happening. Dr Cole was one of the 1st to report this. Now it's gaining momentum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,317 Posted January 14, 2023 Just now, lod001 said: oh, I think down deep, you know. They are all jabbed. Now there may be a person (in the video) who actually collapsed from something else but this is what is going on in their bodies that is causing them to pass out. Yeah, this IS happening. Dr Cole was one of the 1st to report this. Now it's gaining momentum. They all look like real on-air collapses during news broadcasts .... but the thing is that I'd not been aware of a single one of those instances. By way of contrast look at the amount of coverage generated with the bald soccer quasi-gay-but-not-really guy died. I was wondering if it may be a collage of footage of actors pretending to be journalists. I'm not aware of this every happening until three years ago, I spent 47 years on the planet before 2020 and still remember what it was like, and so any spike of instances... gotta say... looks fishy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,827 Posted January 14, 2023 20 hours ago, TimHauck said: so you agree Delta wasn't weaker? Human-created or -enhanced viruses may not follow the pattern, which could explain China's paranoia from the get go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites