RLLD 3,519 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, Fireballer said: Is it? Why? Is it even possible to have white on black crime based on sheer stupidity? Not if you are a racist. Many of our citizens have been indoctrinated to think in a racist manner, thereby ones actions are dependent on race, its sick, and unfortunately pervasive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,435 Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, RLLD said: Just checked.....WTF??? he was 20 years old? Oh for christ sakes, I thought I overheard him as being younger. Well, then, stupid guy rummaging through houses does not allow these two turds to attempt to essentially abduct him. If he fought back I dont blame him.....these two guys might need a time out, for a decade or two He was 24 or 25 Eta - to be fair to you they used his high school photo instead of a recent photo or mug shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted May 12, 2020 40 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: If you noticed, I said in my post to MDC, I don't like that they killed him. I think that was excessive. I don't think they broke the law. I'd like to see them in jail. I think the best way to do that is to charge them with the most minor offense that requires prison, because I think if they push for murder, they're going to walk. Legally, they did nothing wrong. I say that based on some information known (we have video's and we know the rules of citizen's arrest), as well as assumed info. I'm assuming GA's citizen's arrest laws and assuming the father and son did announce they were making a citizen's arrest. Now, if it comes out that GA doesn't allow certain things under the citizen's arrest that doesn't match the link I placed or the father and son didn't make it known that they were making a citizen's arrest, then that's a new ball game. Believe me, I'm fine with them going to jail, but I think people are using "lynch" and "racist" just because it fits a narrative. In GA, criminal trespass is not a felony Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,519 Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: He was 24 or 25 Eta - to be fair to you they used his high school photo instead of a recent photo or mug shot. Yes well we know the agenda of the MSM, portray him an an innocent little boy to control the perception, and scandalize it to the fullest extent.....ratings are king.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 He walked in the house looked around and left, he didn't take anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Is it? Why? Is it even possible to have white on black crime based on sheer stupidity? That's not how it works. Here's a quick reference guide to keep things straight. White guy hurts black guy: Racism Black guy hurts white guy: Justifiable White guy hurts white guy: Redneck and/or frat boy Black guy hurts black guy: Nothing to see here. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, RLLD said: Yes well we know the agenda of the MSM, portray him an an innocent little boy to control the perception, and scandalize it to the fullest extent.....ratings are king.... So, because he's 25 and walked around the home he's not an innocent person, he's a bad guy?? I was in my late 30's walking around large homes in expensive neighborhoods and was never questioned nor stopped by anyone with a deadly weapon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Utilit99 said: That's not how it works. Here's a quick reference guide to keep things straight. White guy hurts black guy: Racism Black guy hurts white guy: Justifiable Crime White guy hurts white guy: Never reported ever Black guy hurts black guy: On the news all the time and the criminals are caught or at least seen as criminals Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: Yes well we know the agenda of the MSM, portray him an an innocent little boy to control the perception, and scandalize it to the fullest extent.....ratings are king.... I think they just kept showing high school pictures while he was dressed decently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, Utilit99 said: I think they just kept showing high school pictures while he was dressed decently. Because he was dressed indecently at some other time?? He was wearing shorts, sneakers and a t-shirt. Is that indecent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,435 Posted May 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, peenie said: He walked in the house looked around and left, he didn't take anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're right but that's not why he's dead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, peenie said: That's not how it works. Here's a quick reference guide to keep things straight. White guy hurts black guy: Racism Black guy hurts white guy: Justifiable Crime White guy hurts white guy: Never reported ever Black guy hurts black guy: On the news all the time and the criminals are caught or at least seen as criminals Why isn't black on white crime automatically racist but white on black is in your eyes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 The poor guy is dead for walking into a home under construction and BRIEFLY looking around and you all are just pulling facts out of your ass to try to make this guy look like he deserved to be executed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,144 Posted May 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, The Observer said: Why did you think I needed the definition? I speak jive Jogga please 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, peenie said: He didn't try to enter the other residences. He was looking at the skeleton of a home being built. People do that everyday, all the time, everywhere. Yup. Never anything reported missing nor any break-ins or robberies in that area recently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, Utilit99 said: Why isn't black on white crime automatically racist but white on black is in your eyes? Because mostly, black on white crime is financially motivated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, peenie said: Because he was dressed indecently at some other time?? He was wearing shorts, sneakers and a t-shirt. Is that indecent? Yeah. It's called creating an image for the audience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,937 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, TBayXXXVII said: I never said burglary, I said trespassing. McMichaels initially said they tried to detain Arbery because he looked like a burglary suspect. Now they’re making an armed citizens arrest for trespassing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, peenie said: Because mostly, black on white crime is financially motivated. I don't think Reginald Denny would agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,633 Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, peenie said: The poor guy is dead for walking into a home under construction and BRIEFLY looking around and you all are just pulling facts out of your ass to try to make this guy look like he deserved to be executed. I will wait til I see all 3 minutes of him in that house, otherwise they are hiding it for a reason they show the same 5 seconds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, Utilit99 said: I don't think Reginald Denny would agree with you. He is still alive and I don't need you to pull facts that have NOTHING to do with this case to prove your point. I don't care if black people eat white people for breakfast, this man did not deserve to be approached by armed men because he looked around an empty half built home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, peenie said: He is still alive and I don't need you to pull facts that have NOTHING to do with this case to prove your point. I don't care if black people eat white people for breakfast, this man did not deserve to be approached by armed men because he looked around an empty half built home. What he did was illegal. He wasn't just strolling down the sidewalk. Plys he had a history of carrying an illegal weapon. Not a good guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I will wait til I see all 3 minutes of him in that house, otherwise they are hiding it for a reason they show the same 5 seconds Look at the view from neighbor's Ring app, he went into garage, then out of it then walked around the house from the outside and then left. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, Utilit99 said: What he did was illegal. He wasn't just strolling down the sidewalk. Plys he had a history of carrying an illegal weapon. Not a good guy. Stick to the facts of that day. The men who attacked him didn't know anything about his past. Who are you to call him a bad person because of something he may have done in his past? What does that have to do with his behavior on this day? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I will wait til I see all 3 minutes of him in that house, otherwise they are hiding it for a reason they show the same 5 seconds I agree. But I'm sure it also goes way deeper. Black folks want to pounce on white people when it appears they did something wrong without even knowing the facts of the situation because they so want to have a respite from the massive amount of black crimes that occur every minute of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 12, 2020 1 minute ago, peenie said: Stick to the facts of that day. The men who attacked him didn't know anything about his past. Who are you to call him a bad person because of something he may have done in his past? What does that have to do with his behavior on this day? They use a person's history in investigations and in courtrooms all the time to establiah a person's character. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: I don't think Reginald Denny would agree with you. Reginald Denny??? What happened to him was horrible. Not sure why you're mentioning things that have NOTHING to do with this case. You want me to start mentioning things? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, peenie said: Reginald Denny??? What happened to him was horrible. Not sure why you're mentioning things that have NOTHING to do with this case. You want me to start mentioning things? I don't think the dude a brick into his head for a few bucks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted May 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: What he did was illegal. He wasn't just strolling down the sidewalk. Plys he had a history of carrying an illegal weapon. Not a good guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: They use a person's history in investigations and in courtrooms all the time to establiah a person's character. Well the only person's character that needs to be established are those men who shot that man. Notice how no one is fishing through their past? Notice how they are given the benefit of the doubt despite killing someone. That guy only walked around a partially built house and you're trying to smear his character as if he deserved to die that day. They are racist and YOU are racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, The Observer said: I already know you think it's funny that some dude is constantly lurking around someone else's home and has been known to be a guy who had illegal firearms and brings them into schools and runs from the cops into populated auditoriums. Etc. But some people don't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,422 Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, peenie said: They are racist Newbie and Peenie must have seen an interview with these guys where they said they approached and killed him based on race. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, peenie said: Well the only person's character that needs to be established are those men who shot that man. Notice how no one is fishing through their past? Notice how they are given the benefit of the doubt despite killing someone. That guy only walked around a partially built house and you're trying to smear his character as if he deserved to die that day. They are racist and YOU are racist. People are fishing through their past at this moment. And they should. They will be on trial. And the prosecuter will paint a picture of them for his case. Why do you object so much to finding out all the facts before judgement? If that's what you call racist, Im not sure what to say to that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,701 Posted May 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: People are fishing through their past at this moment. And they should. They will be on trial. And the prosecuter will paint a picture of them for his case. Why do you object so much to finding out all the facts before judgement? If that's what you call racist, Im not sure what to say to that. Because what he did that morning or what he did 2 years before or 20 years before was unknown to the men who shot him. All that should matter is what those men claim they saw doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,877 Posted May 12, 2020 I’m telling you, mental health issues play a role here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted May 12, 2020 He is dead because he attacked a guy with a gun. Punched him in fact. That’s the one and only reason he is dead. The reason he felt he needed to attack, why the men drove up on him, what was justified or not, all those things are not relevant. He could have put his hands up and talked to the guys or gotten a beating, cops called, whatever. He is instead dead because he attacked the guys with guns. That’s the long and the short of it. When angry men of a different race than your own have guns, don’t punch them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,435 Posted May 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, peenie said: Because what he did that morning or what he did 2 years before or 20 years before was unknown to the men who shot him. All that should matter is what those men claim they saw doing. He's not dead because he was in a white neighborhood, or because he's black or because he entered that house or that he ran when 911 and confronted or because of racism. What you can't seem to understand is he is dead because he tried to take a gun from someone. That is the action that caused his death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,435 Posted May 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, tanatastic said: He is dead because he attacked a guy with a gun. Punched him in fact. That’s the one and only reason he is dead. The reason he felt he needed to attack, why the men drove up on him, what was justified or not, all those things are not relevant. He could have put his hands up and talked to the guys or gotten a beating, cops called, whatever. He is instead dead because he attacked the guys with guns. That’s the long and the short of it. When angry men of a different race than your own have guns, don’t punch them. I agree with everything but the parts I striked out. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted May 12, 2020 Just now, Cdub100 said: I agree with everything but the parts I striked out. Also If that guy just lets Arbery take his gun, Arbery 100% shoots him. It was kill or be killed at that point when he decided to fight back and go for his weapon. This is an unusual situation because anyone with a brain and no gun doesn’t try that against someone with a gun. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites