Ahmaud Arbery

[Cdub100 3,917]

2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

The father, son, and dude filming committed a string of crimes way before the shooting. If there was an attack by Arbury, Arbury was completely justified.  He had every right to use lethal force to get away from the father and son who had run him down earlier and pointed guns at him. These dudes gonna fry. The video footage cannot be viewed in a vacuum. 

I'm not going to get into this sh1t again because there's no point especially if your going to lie like that.

Again if someone has a gun and you try to take it you're going to die.

By your logic the white lady in lake Orion Michigan who was being stopped from leaving a fast food place because the black woman wanted an apology would be justified in shooting her.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/07/10/couple-charged-in-orion-township-chipotle-incident-say-theyve-received-death-threats/

Sorry but no your logic does not hold up. 

[KayJay1971 239]

54 minutes ago, peenie said:

Your people:

and by your people I don't mean white people, I mean you racist jerks. Go to your hometown.

This white man is braver than I am. Brings a tear to my eye.

So you have an issue with the whiteprideradio.com correct? How is it OK to have:

BET

Jet Magazine

Essence Awards

FUBU

United Negro College Fund

NAACP 

Juneteenth

and so many other things. Why is it OK to have these things but not the other way around? 

[Cdub100 3,917]

1 minute ago, KayJay1971 said:

So you have an issue with the whiteprideradio.com correct? How is it OK to have:

BET

Jet Magazine

Essence Awards

FUBU

United Negro College Fund

NAACP 

Juneteenth

and so many other things. Why is it OK to have these things but not the other way around? 

A bet those monsters don't even have to lock their door at night.

[Fireballer 2,642]

6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Again if someone has a gun and you try to take it you're going to die.

 

Until you look at the entirety of the incident, youre on the wrong side of this. Youre just judging the video, not the attempted kidnapping by father/son who had NO legal authority to approach Arbury.

[tanatastic 2,062]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

Until you look at the entirety of the incident, youre on the wrong side of this. Youre just judging the video, not the attempted kidnapping by father/son who had NO legal authority to approach Arbury.

Just gonna go out on a limb and say “attempted kidnapping” is grossly exaggerating things. They were racist AHoles trying to interrogate, detain, whatever, a guy they profiled (Fairly or unfairly is irrelevant) as a potential criminal. He forced their hand into becoming murderers with the attack. Take your beating if need be, beg, cry but don’t attack armed men unless you have a gun as well.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,460]

Still don’t know why people have to dig down on this. These guys are scum. Let them rot in prison.  Or get the death penalty.  No loss. Some of you act like blacks do when some POS gets popped by the cops. Why are you sticking up for these guys? If it’s because they are white , well there has to be other white guys you can stick up for besides these two. 

[Patriotsfatboy1 1,432]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Still don’t know why people have to dig down on this. These guys were scum. Let them rot in prison.  Or get the death penalty.  No loss. 

He was just out for a jog and the rednecks just wanted to talk. 

[tanatastic 2,062]

I don’t stick up for the scumbag rednecks but I just like to clarify that he wasn’t hunted and killed in cold blood. 
 

In the same vein, I like saying that Breonna Taylor wasn’t “hunted down and killed in her sleep.” like so many like to say. She was very much awake after her boyfriend got into a gunfight with cops and caught crossfire. Their bogus reason for being there or who was mistaken for what is a different matter. Hang out with someone who has the potential to get into a spontaneous firefight with police and things can happen.

[peenie 1,915]

13 hours ago, tanatastic said:

I don’t stick up for the scumbag rednecks but I just like to clarify that he wasn’t hunted and killed in cold blood. 
 

In the same vein, I like saying that Breonna Taylor wasn’t “hunted down and killed in her sleep.” like so many like to say. She was very much awake after her boyfriend got into a gunfight with cops and caught crossfire. Their bogus reason for being there or who was mistaken for what is a different matter. Hang out with someone who has the potential to get into a spontaneous firefight with police and things can happen.

Please explain what he did wrong? Keep in mind, if you use trespassing, when the neighbor yelled at him from across the street Arbery ran away and was therefore no longer trespassing. Mind you, it was shown and the owner stated that people were often walking in and out of the property. And it's not trespassing if there is no sign that states it.

As for Breonna Taylor, if someone was shooting into your home you have the right to defend yourself. From my understanding, and I must admit that I haven't followed this story, the police were in plain clothes and gave no warning. There is audio evidence that the boyfriend had no who was shooting into the home.

[peenie 1,915]

14 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

Why is this death more important than the dozens of deaths in Chicago every week? 

It's not. It's on the news all day, so much so that we're desensitized to it. To stop it requires a hard look at many problems that people are just unwilling to face.

[TBayXXXVII 2,550]

1 hour ago, peenie said:

It's not. It's on the news all day, so much so that we're desensitized to it. To stop it requires a hard look at many problems that people are just unwilling to face.

We can't.  If we did, it would be considered racist.

[peenie 1,915]

15 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

We can't.  If we did, it would be considered racist.

Institutional racism and self-accountability.

[Strike 5,562]

6 minutes ago, peenie said:

Institutional racism and self-accountability.

Bet you can't give ONE concrete example of "institutional" racism.

[peenie 1,915]

50 minutes ago, Strike said:

Bet you can't give ONE concrete example of "institutional" racism.

I am not an authority, I can only speak about my experience.

New Jersey, where I'm from, is segregated. As a black person, no matter how nice I am, hard working, I cannot live where I want to live. Blacks are forced to live in overcrowded urban areas where there are no or little access to resources such as grocery stores. Nothing is near. There are miles of areas of just people living in poverty, no stores, no jobs, only government low income housing filled with blacks. The thing is, if you are poor and need low income housing there are options if you are white. You are not sent to Newark projects, you are sent to suburban apartments and no one knows you are living in subsidized housing. You are just a tenant. Everyone else is working. They don't know you are living in a subsidized rented apartment or home. Blacks are forced or relegated to projects where you are in a food desert. It's all poor people for miles and miles. That was not created by blacks. The schools have nothing in them. The books aren't modern, there is no air conditioning or equipment and the teachers tend to be....not the best. They aren't completely certified...there are alternative means to become a teacher and we tended to get those teachers (hadn't graduated yet-we had loads of subs).

Even if you have the brains, means and motivation to move out of your community, racism prevents you from purchasing out of your neighborhood as people refuse to rent or sell to blacks. Even if you are a good person, as most people are, they refuse. Times have changed, yes, but still today, I cannot rent or buy in the Ironbound section of Newark. There are locked neighborhoods.

Structural...

Blacks were not given GI loans to buy homes. Whites were and were able to buy homes in the suburbs that increased value. Their children grew up in safety and their children were able to inherit the wealth that those homes in those safe communities provided.

Redlining....

Businesses were not allowed to open in certain (black) areas, not due to crime but simply the color of the population. Scarce resources begets a self-fulfilling prophecy. Now crime grows since there is a lack of jobs.

 

[peenie 1,915]

We don't choose to live in these areas, we are placed here and cannot move out of them or it's the only place that will rent or sell to us:

https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/money/2019/07/20/detroit-chicago-memphis-most-segregated-cities-housing-policies/1780223001/

[Strike 5,562]

3 minutes ago, peenie said:

I am not an authority, I can only speak about my experience.

New Jersey, where I'm from, is segregated. As a black person, no matter how nice I am, hard working, I cannot live where I want to live. Blacks are forced to live in overcrowded urban areas where there are no or little access to resources such as grocery stores. Nothing is near. There are miles of areas of just people living in poverty, no stores, no jobs, only government low income housing filled with blacks. The thing is, if you are poor and need low income housing there are options if you are white. You are not sent to Newark projects, you are sent to suburban apartments and no one knows you are living in subsidized housing. You are just a tenant. Everyone else is working. They don't know you are living in a subsidized rented apartment or home. Blacks are forced or relegated to projects where you are in a food desert. It's all poor people for miles and miles. That was not created by blacks. The schools have nothing in them. The books aren't modern, there is no air conditioning or equipment and the teachers tend to be....not the best. They aren't completely certified...there are alternative means to become a teacher and we tended to get those teachers (hadn't graduated yet-we had loads of subs).

Even if you have the brains, means and motivation to move out of your community, racism prevents you from purchasing out of your neighborhood as people refuse to rent or sell to blacks. Even if you are a good person, as most people are, they refuse. Times have changed, yes, but still today, I cannot rent or buy in the Ironbound section of Newark. There are locked neighborhoods.

Structural...

Blacks were not given GI loans to buy homes. Whites were and were able to buy homes in the suburbs that increased value. Their children grew up in safety and their children were able to inherit the wealth that those homes in those safe communities provided.

Redlining....

Businesses were not allowed to open in certain (black) areas, not due to crime but simply the color of the population. Scarce resources begets a self-fulfilling prophecy. Now crime grows since there is a lack of jobs.

 

Link to where NJ is segregated by law or some other institutional means.  I don't believe you.  I think that would be illegal and unconstitutional.

Your other examples are "were."  If you look up that word in the dictionary it refers to past actions.  I'm not even going to get in to whether what you posted is actually true.  I am asking you for examples of CURRENT institutionalized racism. 

And look, I'm not saying we shouldn't try to help black people overcome past issues.  We've been doing that for 50 years and it's not working.  It's not working largely due to doing the WRONG things, which is mostly the fault of failed democratic policies because they don't want to overcome those issues.  Your people are free votes for them as long as they keep you down.  I gave an example the other day of a program that I know for a fact helped inner city black kids overcome those issues.  We should be doing more of that.  You just blew it off as "I'm glad you knew some nice black kids", instead of embracing it as a policy that should be in widespread use TODAY. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,460]

3 minutes ago, peenie said:

We don't choose to live in these areas, we are placed here and cannot move out of them or it's the only place that will rent or sell to us:

https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/money/2019/07/20/detroit-chicago-memphis-most-segregated-cities-housing-policies/1780223001/

What about poor white areas? Plenty of them. 

[peenie 1,915]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What about poor white areas? Plenty of them. 

Yes, but once you have money as a white person you can leave to better areas. Your blackness prevents you from moving up and out in many places.

[Strike 5,562]

Just now, peenie said:

Yes, but once you have money as a white person you can leave to better areas. Your blackness prevents you from moving up and out in many places.

This has to be the singularly most ignorant and racist statement you've ever made on this bored.  You're literally saying that even if you have the money to do so you can't do it if you're black.  You should be ashamed of yourself.

[peenie 1,915]

What about the drug sentencing for crack and cocaine?

Another drug war policy that deeply affected the black population was the 100-to-1 disparity in sentencing for crack vs. powder cocaine, in which possession of only five grams of crack cocaine triggered the same mandatory minimum sentence as possession of 500 grams of powder cocaine. There was a strong racial component to the disparity as crack arrestees were far more likely to be black. The ACLU has pressed for changes to this law for nearly two decades and the U.S. Sentencing Commission has recommended repeatedly that Congress address the disparity. On August 3, 2010, President Obama signed the Fair Sentencing Act, legislation that reduces the discriminatory ratio (to 18-1) and eliminates a mandatory minimum sentence—in this case for simple possession of crack cocaine.

[peenie 1,915]

Just now, Strike said:

This has to be the singularly most ignorant and racist statement you've ever made on this bored.  You're literally saying that even if you have the money to do so you can't do it if you're black.  You should be ashamed of yourself.

I'm talking about whites refusing rent or sell their homes to blacks. Are you serious? Do you think I made that up? I've actually experienced it personally. As a matter of fact, Trump was sued for refusing to rent to blacks on multiple occasions.

[Strike 5,562]

2 minutes ago, peenie said:

I'm talking about whites refusing rent or sell their homes to blacks. Are you serious? Do you think I made that up? I've actually experienced it personally. As a matter of fact, Trump was sued for refusing to rent to blacks on multiple occasions.

So you live in the ghetto today? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,460]

1 minute ago, peenie said:

What about the drug sentencing for crack and cocaine?

Another drug war policy that deeply affected the black population was the 100-to-1 disparity in sentencing for crack vs. powder cocaine, in which possession of only five grams of crack cocaine triggered the same mandatory minimum sentence as possession of 500 grams of powder cocaine. There was a strong racial component to the disparity as crack arrestees were far more likely to be black. The ACLU has pressed for changes to this law for nearly two decades and the U.S. Sentencing Commission has recommended repeatedly that Congress address the disparity. On August 3, 2010, President Obama signed the Fair Sentencing Act, legislation that reduces the discriminatory ratio (to 18-1) and eliminates a mandatory minimum sentence—in this case for simple possession of crack cocaine.

Blacks were also the ones getting killed at record clips due to the violence that was brought about by the crack cocaine epidemic. And do you think that there is no difference between crack and powder cocaine? One is much more potent than the other. That why they make it. Acting as if they are the same is ignorant. The levels of violence that arose after the introduction of crack to the populace are indisputable. Do you think nothing should have been done to stop the bloodshed? 

[TBayXXXVII 2,550]

15 minutes ago, peenie said:

I am not an authority, I can only speak about my experience.

New Jersey, where I'm from, is segregated. As a black person, no matter how nice I am, hard working, I cannot live where I want to live. Blacks are forced to live in overcrowded urban areas where there are no or little access to resources such as grocery stores. Nothing is near. There are miles of areas of just people living in poverty, no stores, no jobs, only government low income housing filled with blacks. The thing is, if you are poor and need low income housing there are options if you are white. You are not sent to Newark projects, you are sent to suburban apartments and no one knows you are living in subsidized housing. You are just a tenant. Everyone else is working. They don't know you are living in a subsidized rented apartment or home. Blacks are forced or relegated to projects where you are in a food desert. It's all poor people for miles and miles. That was not created by blacks. The schools have nothing in them. The books aren't modern, there is no air conditioning or equipment and the teachers tend to be....not the best. They aren't completely certified...there are alternative means to become a teacher and we tended to get those teachers (hadn't graduated yet-we had loads of subs).

Even if you have the brains, means and motivation to move out of your community, racism prevents you from purchasing out of your neighborhood as people refuse to rent or sell to blacks. Even if you are a good person, as most people are, they refuse. Times have changed, yes, but still today, I cannot rent or buy in the Ironbound section of Newark. There are locked neighborhoods.

Structural...

Blacks were not given GI loans to buy homes. Whites were and were able to buy homes in the suburbs that increased value. Their children grew up in safety and their children were able to inherit the wealth that those homes in those safe communities provided.

Redlining....

Businesses were not allowed to open in certain (black) areas, not due to crime but simply the color of the population. Scarce resources begets a self-fulfilling prophecy. Now crime grows since there is a lack of jobs.

 

I live in South Jersey, it's NOTHING like you've described.  I'm willing to bet you live in a Democrat ran area.  If I were a betting man, I'd bet a years salary you lived in either Bergen, Essex, Hudson, or Union County.  If you lived in the south, I bet it was either in Atlantic City, Camden, Collingswood, or Pleasantville.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,460]

I’ll sell my house to whoever offers the most money. Case closed. The last house I sold was to a Puerto Rican woman. She offered 500 dollars more than the white guy. Sold! 

[TBayXXXVII 2,550]

15 minutes ago, peenie said:

We don't choose to live in these areas, we are placed here and cannot move out of them or it's the only place that will rent or sell to us:

https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/money/2019/07/20/detroit-chicago-memphis-most-segregated-cities-housing-policies/1780223001/

So Democrat run areas?

[Strike 5,562]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ll sell my house to whoever offers the most money. Case closed. The last house I sold was to a Puerto Rican woman. She offered 500 dollars more than the white guy. Sold! 

I have no idea who bought the two houses I've sold.  I have a realtor.  They talk to the buyer's realtor.  They tell me the offer.  I take it or leave it.  Have never met the people I sold to.   Why would I care? 

[peenie 1,915]

 

 

[Strike 5,562]

I'm sure Lebron's mansions are in pretty crappy areas.  I don't know how Kobe was able to get a house in Newport Beach CA, a notorious KKK stronghold!!!

https://www.lonny.com/Kobe+Bryant+Sells+California+Mansion

[peenie 1,915]

6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I live in South Jersey, it's NOTHING like you've described.  I'm willing to bet you live in a Democrat ran area.  If I were a betting man, I'd bet a years salary you lived in either Bergen, Essex, Hudson, or Union County.  If you lived in the south, I bet it was either in Atlantic City, Camden, Collingswood, or Pleasantville.

If you live in New Jersey and you tell me that blacks can live where they want depending on income, you are either young or a liar.

[peenie 1,915]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

I'm sure Lebron's mansions are in pretty crappy areas.  I don't know how Kobe was able to get a house in Newport Beach CA, a notorious KKK stronghold!!!

https://www.lonny.com/Kobe+Bryant+Sells+California+Mansion

I'm not talking about celebrities...I'm talking about everyday working folks.

Here, to help you understand, here is a Chris Rock clip to explain:

 

[Strike 5,562]

13 minutes ago, Strike said:

So you live in the ghetto today? 

Bump for RacistPeenie

[TBayXXXVII 2,550]

1 minute ago, peenie said:

If you live in New Jersey and you tell me that blacks can live where they want depending on income, you are either young or a liar.

Clearly it's true, otherwise, I'll have to tell a few of the people on my street that they're not black.  It'll come as shock to them I think.  I live in a townhouse.  Pretty sizeable townhouse community.  If you don't make at least $75k, you're not living there.  About 1/3 of the people in my area are black.  I'll let them know that not only does Biden say they're not black, that you said they're not black either.  Guess the white population just grew.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,460]

Hey Peenie, back to the subject of crack, DWI is largely a white crime. When the instances of people dying because of it shot up, harsher laws were brought about. Is that racist? 

[Strike 5,562]

Just now, peenie said:

I'm not talking about celebrities...I'm talking about everyday working folks.

Here, to help you understand, here is a Chris Rock clip to explain:

 

Not watching a comedian.  I hope that's not where you get your crazy racist ideas.  I don't get your comment though.  Is Lebron black?  Is Kobe? 

[peenie 1,915]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

Not watching a comedian.  I hope that's not where you get your crazy racist ideas.  I don't get your comment though.  Is Lebron black?  Is Kobe? 

My posts are based on my experiences. I simply put the video of Chris Rock because I remembered it and I think it helps highlight my point since you brought up celebrities.

[TBayXXXVII 2,550]

4 minutes ago, peenie said:

I'm not talking about celebrities...I'm talking about everyday working folks.

Here, to help you understand, here is a Chris Rock clip to explain:

 

Chris Rock proving me right.  Alpine, NJ = Bergen County.  I don't think there's a Republican that lives in that entire county.

 

Also, I've never met a single dentist that doesn't live in  BIG house.  They ALL have money.  ALLLLLL of them!

[Strike 5,562]

Just now, peenie said:

My posts are based on my experiences. I simply put the video of Chris Rock because I remembered it and I think it helps highlight my point since you brought up celebrities.

I've asked you countless times over the years for you to post your "experiences."  You've chosen not to post them.  And that's fine.  I'm still willing to listen.  I won't take them in to account unless you actually post them.  Your choice.

[peenie 1,915]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Chris Rock proving me right.  Alpine, NJ = Bergen County.  I don't think there's a Republican that lives in that entire county.

 

Also, I've never met a single dentist that doesn't live in  BIG house.  They ALL have money.  ALLLLLL of them!

I think his point is that you have to make a lot of money to live in nice white neighborhood if you're black. The doors are closed to you otherwise. Which is why Georgia has been such a relief. None of that seems to exist here.

[peenie 1,915]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hey Peenie, back to the subject of crack, DWI is largely a white crime. When the instances of people dying because of it shot up, harsher laws were brought about. Is that racist? 

You know, I have heard that argument. That the only reason why the penalties were so high was because it was so highly addictive and causing so many problems in the urban communities. That is a fair assessment.