Protests in your city or town? Thread

[Intense Observer 344]

22 minutes ago, MDC said:

Speaking for Philly, there were many thousand of protestors here and very few of them are rioting or looting. Few bad apples and all that.

I guess you missed the videos from the other day, buildings burning down, shops being looted.

It is hard to tell when a lefty is just an ignorant moron or intentionally obtuse.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

23 minutes ago, MDC said:

Speaking for Philly, there were many thousand of protestors here and very few of them are rioting or looting. Few bad apples and all that.

Lol. Except for the bombs that were going off at ATM’s. 

[MDC 7,505]

17 minutes ago, Intense Observer said:

I guess you missed the videos from the other day, buildings burning down, shops being looted.

It is hard to tell when a lefty is just an ignorant moron or intentionally obtuse.

Was your local Pottery Barn and Chipotle okay?  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 hour ago, Intense Observer said:

I guess you missed the videos from the other day, buildings burning down, shops being looted.

It is hard to tell when a lefty is just an ignorant moron or intentionally obtuse.

He is a straight up clown. 

[lod001 1,344]

Right here is a typical lefty assaulting a US veteran., NewbieTard, MDCuck and the rest of the lefties would be proud of this worthless piece of dogshit.

https://turtleboysports.com/fall-river-nut-sock-fights-racism-by-beating-kicking-elderly-air-force-veteran-for-holding-trump-sign/

[Leeson 54]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

The police are rioting and looting?  See an opportunity to wreak havoc, which means seek it out?  You could drum up a half dozen videos of this where an officer has acted inappropriately, so I guess that makes them all animals?  Also some probably don't care about George Floyd.  Most of the looters likely don't.

Also lose the "protesters" crap -- protesters protest, not riot and loot.

Be better next time. 

I've used the term peaceful protesters numerous times. I've also clarified that I don't condone violence, looting or vandalism. If there are 1000 people protesting in a city. A handful of them may do something that is not considered peaceful. I've also seen video of peaceful protesters and even members of the press attacked by police. 

The only reason we are seeing protests is because the Minneapolis police are overstepping their authority without accountability. Stop that action and there is no equal and opposite reaction. 

[Leeson 54]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

Same for Phoenix.  Had one night early on with a little bit, got shut down, the rest have been peaceful.  And nobody has been brutally assaulted by police like the other 90375849302 examples as per Leeson.

So you admit there are assaults by police. At this point we are just arguing if it's one,  90375849302, or somewhere in between. 

[Leeson 54]

29 minutes ago, lod001 said:

Right here is a typical lefty assaulting a US veteran., NewbieTard, MDCuck and the rest of the lefties would be proud of this worthless piece of dogshit.

https://turtleboysports.com/fall-river-nut-sock-fights-racism-by-beating-kicking-elderly-air-force-veteran-for-holding-trump-sign/

Turtleboy.com ?? LOLOL. That's your source for news?

I have a son serving overseas in the military. I respect our military and am disgusted that our government would think to pit them against American citizens. They are trained to fight wars, not police citizens. 

[Leeson 54]

Just a few bad apples. Maybe this cop is auditioning for Karate Kid 4. 

 

[Leeson 54]

It's seems that many of you are not against protests, but you're against creating laws that would protect black people in this country. It's as if you're afraid of black people pulling one over on you by asking to have checks and balances in our law enforcement community. If given the choice of giving black people something extra, or continuing with the status quo, you choose the later. 

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, Leeson said:

It's seems that many of you are not against protests, but you're against creating laws that would protect black people in this country. It's as if you're afraid of black people pulling one over on you by asking to have checks and balances in our law enforcement community. If given the choice of giving black people something extra, or continuing with the status quo, you choose the later. 

 

Why don't we just start with laws against black people killing other people since it happens thousands of times a year?

Oh yeah, we have  one. They just choose not to follow it. A lot.

[Leeson 54]

11 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Why don't we just start with laws against black people killing other people since it happens thousands of times a year?

Oh yeah, we have  one. They just choose not to follow it. A lot.

Do we pay black people with taxpayer money to kill other black people? Nope. 

We pay our police, I expect oversight to be attached to that money. Regardless of skin color. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, Leeson said:

Do we pay black people with taxpayer money to kill other black people? Nope. 

We pay our police, I expect oversight to be attached to that money. Regardless of skin color. 

It’s coming, didn’t worry so much about it. This won’t be a problem going forward. The new American policing model will solve this problem but for the unavoidable instances. We have our best and brightest on it. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, Leeson said:

Do we pay black people with taxpayer money to kill other black people? Nope. 

We pay our police, I expect oversight to be attached to that money. Regardless of skin color. 

Why don't you go read the article and comment about it in the The Myth of Systemic Police Racism thread?

[drobeski 3,061]

Peaceful 

[drobeski 3,061]

Peaceful 

[drobeski 3,061]

Peaceful 

 

The democrats, blm and antifa are effectively terrorist organizations.  

Scumbags, lowest of the low. 

[Leeson 54]

6 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Peaceful 

 

The democrats, blm and antifa are effectively terrorist organizations.  

Scumbags, lowest of the low. 

Wow. And they did that without the need for riot gear, tear gas or batons. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

Speaking for Philly, there were many thousand of protestors here and very few of them are rioting or looting. Few bad apples and all that.

Funny how a few bad cops equals systemic racism, but many looters and rioters is just a few bad apples. 

[MDC 7,505]

46 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Funny how a few bad cops equals systemic racism, but many looters and rioters is just a few bad apples. 

You’re right. I think the overwhelming majority of cops are good, too.

[Leeson 54]

10 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Funny how a few bad cops equals systemic racism, but many looters and rioters is just a few bad apples. 

How do you know how many bad cops there are? 

Cops are on our streets 24/7. We've had protests for 2 weeks that has shed light on some looters and rioters. Rioting has happened after Super Bowls and other sporting events. Those bad apples are there regardless of the reason. They are not paid with taxpayer money. 

Bad people exist in the world. We have tons of laws that apply to people that break the law. Those same laws do and aren't applied to cops. 

 

[jerryskids 6,846]

12 hours ago, Leeson said:

So you admit there are assaults by police. At this point we are just arguing if it's one,  90375849302, or somewhere in between. 

When did I say there were never assaults by police?  The one kicking the kneeling girl seemed like assault.  The old man one was a joke.  I think we are a lot closer to one than a large number.

[Leeson 54]

9 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

When did I say there were never assaults by police?  The one kicking the kneeling girl seemed like assault.  The old man one was a joke.  I think we are a lot closer to one than a large number.

How are police assaults identified?  

Do you think they are under reported and/or not addressed by IA?

Your own statement shows that you aren't willing to accept an assault, even when it's an assault. You use the word "seemed" like assault, but the old man was a "joke". If an old man confronted me on the street and I shoved him, with the same results being videotaped, would I be charged with assault? If he died, I'd probably be charged with manslaughter. 

What about the cop that kicks the guy in the back. The guy has his hands in the air. Just put him in handcuffs. What's the point of kicking him? (unless you're trying to provoke a response to beat him further)

[jerryskids 6,846]

9 minutes ago, Leeson said:

How are police assaults identified?  

Do you think they are under reported and/or not addressed by IA?

Your own statement shows that you aren't willing to accept an assault, even when it's an assault. You use the word "seemed" like assault, but the old man was a "joke". If an old man confronted me on the street and I shoved him, with the same results being videotaped, would I be charged with assault? If he died, I'd probably be charged with manslaughter. 

What about the cop that kicks the guy in the back. The guy has his hands in the air. Just put him in handcuffs. What's the point of kicking him? (unless you're trying to provoke a response to beat him further)

Since you like wordsmithing, what the old man did was "assault" by confronting the officer and furthermore waving his hand near the officer's gun.  That the officer is accused of is "battery," and as I watch that video I cannot believe people think it is so egregious.  First, his arm was fully extended, there is very little power you can generate from there.  That shove should have barely moved an 8 yr old.  And the old man had started backpedaling.  Calling it a stumble is a fairly accurate statement.  Yet people act like he coiled up and launched him as hard as he could.

If it happened to me in the street, I'd say that some crazy old man got up in my face and started yelling at me, I pushed him away, he stumbled and fell and hit his head.  That's a "him" problem, he shouldn't have assaulted me.

[Leeson 54]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Since you like wordsmithing, what the old man did was "assault" by confronting the officer and furthermore waving his hand near the officer's gun.  That the officer is accused of is "battery," and as I watch that video I cannot believe people think it is so egregious.  First, his arm was fully extended, there is very little power you can generate from there.  That shove should have barely moved an 8 yr old.  And the old man had started backpedaling.  Calling it a stumble is a fairly accurate statement.  Yet people act like he coiled up and launched him as hard as he could.

If it happened to me in the street, I'd say that some crazy old man got up in my face and started yelling at me, I pushed him away, he stumbled and fell and hit his head.  That's a "him" problem, he shouldn't have assaulted me.

You didn't answer the question. If you or I were videotaped doing the same thing to an elderly man, would be be charged? Even if he was standing in front of us arguing.

You know the answer, but want to change the discussion. Because, to admit it, means that you agree we need to hold the police to the same standard as the general public when a crime is committed. 

There is more than one way to solve these confrontations. My concern is that the police use a violent approach as the default response when another method would be just as effective. If the old guy was wrong, instruct him to put his hands behind his back, or prone out on the ground. What was the goal of the police at that time? To make him leave? Arrest him? They accomplished neither with their actions. How many times have cops shot a person, and still put the perp in handcuffs? They didn't arrest the old guy. Why not? Has the old guy been charged with a crime? 

[Voltaire 5,322]

On 6/6/2020 at 9:55 AM, Utilit99 said:

The blatant idiocy of people who judge police on a 20 second video clip is beyond imagination. And it's overblown to the point of lunacy. 

This hatred for cops based on a false narrative is so widespread it's making me sick at how stupid so many Americans are.

If I were a cop, I would seriously think about working at becoming a bartender or anything else in life. I personally wanted to change my career once and went to DeVry, and now I'm making way more than the cops that put their lives on the line in major cities just to get shlt on by the media and the other dumb ass leftists in this country.

It's not right. 

They don't need to change professions. They can go work for a community that supports them. I imagine job applications from cops fed up with working in departments where they are being sh*t on are piled to the ceiling on Grady Judd's desk.

[jerryskids 6,846]

4 hours ago, Leeson said:

You didn't answer the question. If you or I were videotaped doing the same thing to an elderly man, would be be charged? Even if he was standing in front of us arguing.

You know the answer, but want to change the discussion. Because, to admit it, means that you agree we need to hold the police to the same standard as the general public when a crime is committed. 

There is more than one way to solve these confrontations. My concern is that the police use a violent approach as the default response when another method would be just as effective. If the old guy was wrong, instruct him to put his hands behind his back, or prone out on the ground. What was the goal of the police at that time? To make him leave? Arrest him? They accomplished neither with their actions. How many times have cops shot a person, and still put the perp in handcuffs? They didn't arrest the old guy. Why not? Has the old guy been charged with a crime? 

I think if I acted contrite with my basic message and skipped the "him" problem, I would not be arrested, no.

Was the old guy charged?  Dood, if you are a "protester" you are free to do whatever the fock you want, in case you've been living in a cave the past few weeks.  Of course not.

The goal was to make him leave.  Unfortunately he stumbled shuffling backward while getting a slight shove.

Way to not address any of my points. 

[Leeson 54]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

I think if I acted contrite with my basic message and skipped the "him" problem, I would not be arrested, no.

Was the old guy charged?  Dood, if you are a "protester" you are free to do whatever the fock you want, in case you've been living in a cave the past few weeks.  Of course not.

The goal was to make him leave.  Unfortunately he stumbled shuffling backward while getting a slight shove.

Way to not address any of my points. 

I learned from the best. 

You know full well we'd be charged. If it was a black person that pushed that elderly man down, he'd be hung at sunset. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

On 6/6/2020 at 6:40 PM, MDC said:

Speaking for Philly, there were many thousand of protestors here and very few of them are rioting or looting. Few bad apples and all that.

Doh! 

[RLLD 4,254]

On 6/6/2020 at 6:40 PM, MDC said:

Speaking for Philly, there were many thousand of protestors here and very few of them are rioting or looting. Few bad apples and all that.

Hey, then we are in luck!  Because as it happens there are thousands of cops and few of them are violating anyone's civil rights, just a few bad apples so, not big deal, now everyone can shut the fock up and start acting like civil humans again, right?

[Utilit99 4,099]

14 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Hey, then we are in luck!  Because as it happens there are thousands of cops and few of them are violating anyone's civil rights, just a few bad apples so, not big deal, now everyone can shut the fock up and start acting like civil humans again, right?

You don't get far with logical thoughts when talking to liberals. 

[MDC 7,505]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Hey, then we are in luck!  Because as it happens there are thousands of cops and few of them are violating anyone's civil rights, just a few bad apples so, not big deal, now everyone can shut the fock up and start acting like civil humans again, right?

Did I ever say different Cliffy?  

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

On 6/1/2020 at 9:34 AM, wiffleball said:

So angry right now. Where the f****** adults? Trump's a child. The cops should know better by now. The protesters aren't doing any damn good. They're hurting their own. The media is f****** worthless on both sides. I have never understood what the f*** I left is trying to do.

 

All I know is I'm out of a job. Along with about 20% of the country at least. And all for no good f****** reason. And now we got this b******* to deal with?

Just f****** provoke me tonight. Either side. Axxholes all. 

What the left is trying to do is simple. They are trying to create and enflame chaos that they can then blame on Trump.

If Biden wins, they can say, see how calm things are now? Ignore the fact that the omnipresent voice is now not whipping up a frenzy.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 hour ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

What the left is trying to do is simple. They are trying to create and enflame chaos that they can then blame on Trump.

If Biden wins, they can say, see how calm things are now? Ignore the fact that the omnipresent voice is now not whipping up a frenzy.

It won't calm down even if Biden is elected.

[shorepatrol 1,871]

5 minutes ago, riversco said:

It won't calm down even if Biden is elected.

Nope, It'll be massively worse. Dems have given rioters and looters free reign. Trump wins and it's game over for rioters. Fed will drop a HAMMER 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

24 minutes ago, riversco said:

It won't calm down even if Biden is elected.

It will to large degree. Not entirely of course.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

5 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

It will to large degree. Not entirely of course.

Not in the slightest.  BLM is about overthrowing the government.  Doesn't matter to them if its Trump or Biden.  Biden winning just means the government response will be muted.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/family-blames-police-for-dc-mans-death-in-electric-scooter-crash/2455306/%3famp

Now they are just protesting people being idiots. 

[RLLD 4,254]

9 hours ago, MDC said:

Did I ever say different Cliffy?  

Oh dear, looks like its backpedal time.

[MDC 7,505]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Oh dear, looks like its backpedal time.

I’d ask for a link but I know from experience you don’t back your feelings up with facts.