report: violence by the far right is the greatest threat to the US

[Cdub100 3,381]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Most black people?

is this like a vast majority of gays are turned gay from abuse?

NObody talks more sh1t than you

Nearly half of black men are arrested by age 23

[Utilit99 4,099]

15 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Most black people?

Yes. Chicago alone murders by blacks: Run by a black democrat. 

Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 347
Shot & Wounded: 1684
Total Shot: 2031
Total Homicides: 369

[GutterBoy 2,281]

45 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

 You are seriously defending a group of  blacks beating the shlt out of a white kid while one adult black dude directs the violence while putting it on video and uploading to the world to see?

No, I'm not defending, I'm saying it's not a lynching, it's a beat down.  And it has nothing to do with BLM or crt.  They call him an n, and the kid is apologizing.  So the kid did or said something, and got his ass beat.  This has happened forever, stop with the BLM crt politics Bs

[GutterBoy 2,281]

32 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Yes. Chicago alone murders by blacks: Run by a black democrat. 

Year to Date
Shot & Killed: 347
Shot & Wounded: 1684
Total Shot: 2031
Total Homicides: 369

So most of the black people are murderers?  Aren't there more than 4k blacks in Chicago?

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

No, I'm not defending, I'm saying it's not a lynching, it's a beat down.  And it has nothing to do with BLM or crt.  They call him an n, and the kid is apologizing.  So the kid did or said something, and got his ass beat.  This has happened forever, stop with the BLM crt politics Bs

You are fighting about the words lynching vs. beat down? 

It's all racism. That's what the left says if 4 white guys beat up a black dude.

[GutterBoy 2,281]

49 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Nearly half of black men are arrested by age 23

And 40% of whites too.  So I guess most whites are violent as well?  Or is that 10% really meaningful?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,653]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

So most of the black people are murderers?  Aren't there more than 4k blacks in Chicago?

No, dumbass. Most of the murderers are black. Wake up. 

[GutterBoy 2,281]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

You are fighting about the words lynching vs. beat down? 

It's all racism. That's what the left says if 4 white guys beat up a black dude.

Not fighting, correctly your sh1t talk.

You're guessing it's racism, you have no idea

[GutterBoy 2,281]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

No, dumbass. Most of the murderers are black. Wake up. 

That's not what cdub said, he said most black people are violent 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

So most of the black people are murderers?  Aren't there more than 4k blacks in Chicago?

And blacks and browns commit the majority of murders. Yes.

13% of the black community commit 58% of violent crimes. It doesn't take more people to commit more crime. 

[GutterBoy 2,281]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

And blacks and browns commit the majority of murders. Yes.

13% of the black community commit 58% of violent crimes. It doesn't take more people to commit more crime. 

Still doesn't mean most black people are violent.  13% is not most.

[Utilit99 4,099]

6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Not fighting, correctly your sh1t talk.

You're guessing it's racism, you have no idea

Hey, it's all racism from now on. Your focking votes went to hussein and creepy joe. Identity politics dude. I'm just playing by their rules. 

Do you want me to look up creepy joe's statement about white supremacy being the biggest fear to our safety here in America? But blacks are free to roam and kill and beat up and demand an apology out of a white kid?

No.

Time to fight back against democrats and black racists was a long time ago.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,653]

11 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

And blacks and browns commit the majority of murders. Yes.

13% of the black community commit 58% of violent crimes. It doesn't take more people to commit more crime. 

No. 13 pct off the country is black. The ones that commit  the overwhelming majority of violence are a subset of the whole . But because of liberal twats and the politicians and race hustlers, all democrats, that use the  blacks to get power amd wealth, we, as a society can’t concentrate on that subset and pursue and prosecute them, even though we would ALL be better off if we did. All of us, but mostly the black community, the overwhelming majority that don’t commit any type of crime.  Wusses like Gutterboy won’t let it happen though. Someone might call them racist. And thats what’s important. His standing 

[Utilit99 4,099]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No. 13 off the country is black. The ones that comit the overwhelming majority of violence are a subset of the whole . But because of liberal twats and the politicians and race hustlers, all democrats, that use the  blacks to get power amd wealth, we, as a society can’t concentrate on that subset and pursue and prosecute them, even though we would ALL be better off if we did. All of us, but mostly the black community, the overwhelming majority that don’t commit any type of crime.  Wusses like Gutterboy won’t let it happen though. Someone might call them racist. And thats what’s important. His standing 

I am going to only play the white vs. black democrat game in the short term until nasty pelosi and creepy joe and kameltoe are gone. It's their narrative and it's sick.. 

In my personal life, I'll continue to treat people with the respect they deserve and/or have earned no matter the race.

[tubby_mcgee 686]

On 6/28/2020 at 2:55 PM, iam90sbaby said:

The right needs their own version of Antifa.

If they did, they'd kill all of Antifa and thousands and thousands of liberals.

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 hour ago, tubby_mcgee said:

If they did, they'd kill all of Antifa and thousands and thousands of liberals.

 

I'm good with that. Include a bunch of illegals and we can have a party.  

[TimHauck 1,801]

On 6/29/2020 at 2:41 PM, posty said:

Is this the same study/report that states you can't catch COVID at a BLM event but can at a Trump rally?

Fake news.  It said you couldn’t catch it at either.

[TimHauck 1,801]

14 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Fukin white supremacists!!!

 

Horrible.  Might be race related, might not be.

I went to the “Clown World” page where the video came from and didn’t see that video, but many of the articles it posted were from like 6-10 years ago.  And seems like many were not even in America - by the accents I’m guessing this wasn’t either.  

The GC loves posting videos from other countries then using them as proof  of things that are happening in the US, it’s really weird IMO.

[Alias Detective 1,179]

Little apes

[Fireballer 2,383]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Horrible.  Might be race related, might not be.

Don't hate the Playa, hate the game.

[Utilit99 4,099]

3 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Horrible.  Might be race related, might not be.

I went to the “Clown World” page where the video came from and didn’t see that video, but many of the articles it posted were from like 6-10 years ago.  And seems like many were not even in America - by the accents I’m guessing this wasn’t either.  

The GC loves posting videos from other countries then using them as proof  of things that are happening in the US, it’s really weird IMO.

Where is the video from?

[TimHauck 1,801]

25 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Where is the video from?

I couldn’t find the original post, but I scrolled a bit through the guy’s feed and the majority of the stories seem to be from the UK.

[lod001 1,237]

On 6/29/2020 at 3:11 PM, Utilit99 said:

Holy crap. That little turd is going to be feeling that for a while. Hopefully. 

That never gets old.

[dogcows 1,029]

On 6/28/2020 at 3:51 PM, JustinCharge said:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/violence-far-among-us-most-090006442.html

Violence by far-right is among US’s most dangerous terrorist threats, study finds
Jason Wilson
The Guardian June 27, 2020, 2:00 AM PDT

Violence by far-right groups and individuals has emerged as one of the most dangerous terrorist threats faced by US law enforcement and triggered a wave of warnings and arrests of people associated with those extremist movements.

The most recent in-depth analysis of far-right terrorism comes from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).

Related: How the US military has failed to address white supremacy in its ranks

In a report released last week, the Escalating Terrorism Problem in the United States, CSIS analyzes 25 years of domestic terrorism incidents and finds that the majority of attacks and plots have come from the far right.

The report says “the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994, and the total number of rightwing attacks and plots has grown significantly during the past six years”, with the far right launching two-thirds of attacks and plots in 2019, and 90% of those in 2020.

The report adds: “Far-right terrorism has significantly outpaced terrorism from other types of perpetrators.” The second most significant source of attacks and plots in the US has been “religious extremists”, almost all “Salafi jihadists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaida”.

The report shows the far left has been an increasingly negligible source of attacks since the mid 2000s. At that time the FBI defined arsons and other forms of property damage as domestic terrorism during a period some have called the “Green Scare”.

The CSIS study came during a new wave of terror attacks and plots from white supremacist and anti-government extremists.

Last Monday, the Department of Justice announced that it had brought an array of charges, including terrorism related offenses, against a US army soldier who subscribed to a mix of white supremacist and satanist beliefs which are characteristic of so-called “accelerationist” neo-nazis like Atomwaffen Division.

Last week, federal charges were brought on Steven Carillo for the murder of a federal security officer and a sheriff’s deputy. Like the three men arrested for an alleged terror plot in Nevada earlier this month, the FBI says Carillo identified with the extreme anti-government “boogaloo” movement, which is principally concerned with removing government regulation of firearms.

But critics question the timing and motivations of the intelligence community’s pivot to combatting rightwing extremism as it comes at a time when some are arguing the legal and institutional counterterrorism apparatus developed to combat overseas terror groups should now be adapted to domestic extremists.

For some that has deep implications for civil liberties and constitutional rights, especially when it comes to suggestions that new laws should be drafted to certify such groups as domestic terrorist organizations.

Eric Ward, executive director of the civil rights nonprofit the Western States Center, said: “We are deeply concerned by the idea of any type of law that creates a legal definition around domestic terrorism. There are significant laws already on the books that meet the challenges of this moment.”

Ward said that rather than new laws, “we need a responsible leadership that is actually willing to use the tools that are already on hand”.

Ward added: “Too often we have to respond to political crisis with criminalization. And I think that is a mistake”.

But the push for new laws is an ongoing one.

In April, a joint report from George Washington University’s Program on extremism (GWU PoE) and the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) included a proposal for a “rights protecting domestic terrorism statute”. They said the law could provide “more tools for the investigation and prosecution of groups and individuals” associated with rightwing extremism.

The report did acknowledge “significant constitutional questions” would be raised by such a statute, and the possibility of “unintended consequences, particularly for members of minorities”.

There are also concerns around the creation of a surveillance state.

The GWU/ADL proposal called for increased information sharing between law enforcement agencies, increased data collection and increased resourcing.

Similar arguments have been made by influential legal and national security academics, national security nonprofits and policy shops.

Congressman Max Rose, a New York Democrat, has gone further in calling for the formal designation of US-based groups with international connections as Foreign Terror Organizations.

The FBI, meanwhile, is increasingly prepared to make comparisons between right wing extremists and Islamist terror groups.

Seth Jones, the lead author of the CSIS report, offered qualified support for the formal designation of terror groups, saying: “I still think it’s important to think through the first amendment implications and other pros and cons. But I do support taking a serious look at designation.”

Designation could open the way, he said, to also investigating people who support such groups without having formal membership in any.

But critics are alarmed by what they see as the application of ideas derived from the “war on terror” to domestic extremists.

Mike German, Brennan Center fellow, is a former FBI agent who investigated rightwing extremists but is now focused on law enforcement and intelligence oversight and reform. He sees arguments for domestic terror statutes as part of a broader reorientation of the “national security establishment” away from conflicts in the Middle East.

German attributes this move to a realization “that Isis and al-Qaida were were not as threatening to Americans as they had been, and that foreign counter-terrorism in general was sort of running out of steam”.

German said: “It’s a way of expanding the target realm that gives the counterterrorism enterprise targets that they can use to to get statistical accomplishments, rather than looking at whether or not the violence itself is reduced.”

German has argued federal authorities should prioritize the investigation of the violent crimes of far right extremists, and call them terrorist acts where appropriate, but that they should be prosecuted using existing laws, with a consideration of alternative responses like restorative justice.

If only they had taken this seriously earlier, maybe Jan 6th could have been prevented. 

[KSB2424 3,083]

7 minutes ago, dogcows said:

If only they had taken this seriously earlier, maybe Jan 6th could have been prevented. 

How much "violence" happened on January 6th at the Capitol?   Compared to any day in any major city in America.  

I do not agree with what happened but the people walked in, some ran and some were yelling.  It was stupid thing to do, but.....they just rolled in unarmed, taking selfies and laughing.   An unarmed woman was shot and a Capitol Police officer had a heart attack or stroke later that day not caused by a fire hydrant or gas.   Both terrible.

However the GREATEST THREAT FOR VIOLENCE?   That is borderline retarded to say.  

[KSB2424 3,083]

This is the truth... white, yellow, brown and black people all know this is true.  We just can't say it out loud, even though Jesse Jackson did just that back in 1993.

Quote

There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps... then turn around and see somebody white and feel relieved.

Jesse took the truth pill that day and said what everyone feels aloud.  It's not right, its not wrong....it just is.

 

[GutterBoy 2,281]

That's just an awful thing to say.  Focking racist

[KSB2424 3,083]

17 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

That's just an awful thing to say.  Focking racist

Who, Jesse Jackson?  

[Pimpadeaux 2,266]

23 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

Nearly half of black men are arrested by age 23

Nearly half of Yoopers are a result of inbreeding.

[KSB2424 3,083]

23 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

That's just an awful thing to say.  It is, it should not be that way.      Focking realist.  This is sadly also correct, one doesn't make reality we just live in it. 

 

[KSB2424 3,083]

Most of my white liberal friends are from college, the (current) neighborhood or work and came from middle class to upper middle class to well off families. They are all lily white, constantly looking for the best schools for their kids (dare ask them what that means).  Don't get me wrong, they listened to KRS-One or Biggie Smalls in High School or maybe even had an African American friend. :gasp:  They are truly diverse and know whats best for all.   These guys know what racism is all about.

Most of my white conservative friends are from high school, college, the (old) neighborhood or work.  They came from poor to lower class to middle class families.  Most grew up in racially diverse communities and schools.   Some are still poor white trash, some do fairly well but in non ordinary methods like being a bookie or poker, some are middle class blue collar workers, some have white collar jobs and some have done very well with owning their own business or moving up in corporate America.   All conservative, but the most diverse  group of people you have ever seen.

Point being, true diversity isn't just race.   Diversity consists of race sure, but religion, age, culture, experiences, geography, class on and on.

I've found white conservatives are much more diverse than liberal whites.    

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

25 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Most of my white liberal friends are from college, the (current) neighborhood or work and came from middle class to upper middle class to well off families. They are all lily white, constantly looking for the best schools for their kids (dare ask them what that means).  Don't get me wrong, they listened to KRS-One or Biggie Smalls in High School or maybe even had an African American friend. :gasp:  They are truly diverse and know whats best for all.   These guys know what racism is all about.

Most of my white conservative friends are from high school, college, the (old) neighborhood or work.  They came from poor to lower class to middle class families.  Most grew up in racially diverse communities and schools.   Some are still poor white trash, some do fairly well but in non ordinary methods like being a bookie or poker, some are middle class blue collar workers, some have white collar jobs and some have done very well with owning their own business or moving up in corporate America.   All conservative, but the most diverse  group of people you have ever seen.

Point being, true diversity isn't just race.   Diversity consists of race sure, but religion, age, culture, experiences, geography, class on and on.

I've found white conservatives are much more diverse than liberal whites.    

 

Fock diversity. 

[KSB2424 3,083]

3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Fock diversity. 

Also dumb

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, KSB2424 said:

Also dumb

Not sure what you mean. Just like the people you like. Nothing more.

[KSB2424 3,083]

11 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Not sure what you mean. Just like the people you like. Nothing more.

Such a weird comment. 

It's not about liking people, but respecting, learning, even tolerating.   Diversity in its truest sense is great...to learn from others.....human beings leveraging other cultures/races/religions/age/class/etc...their experiences and knowledge for benefit of the collective.  The philosophy is sound.

However for some reason diversity has been bastardized to the color of your skin or who you fock at night.   And if you DO NOT "buy in" then you are canceled.  Which is the opposite of diversity.  Hence the absurdity of it all.  

[Utilit99 4,099]

28 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Such a weird comment. 

It's not about liking people, but respecting, learning, even tolerating.   Diversity in its truest sense is great...to learn from others.....human beings leveraging other cultures/races/religions/age/class/etc...their experiences and knowledge for benefit of the collective.  The philosophy is sound.

However for some reason diversity has been bastardized to the color of your skin or who you fock at night.   And if you DO NOT "buy in" then you are canceled.  Which is the opposite of diversity.  Hence the absurdity of it all.  

For some reason? See 8 years of hussein's identity politics. 

[KSB2424 3,083]

8 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

For some reason? See 8 years of hussein's identity politics. 

Do you look at life though only a Politics ( L vs R) prism? 

[wiffleball 4,642]

So, we're supposed to be terrified of the tiki torch albinos? But not ms-13?

 

 

F*** that

[Utilit99 4,099]

34 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Do you look at life though only a Politics ( L vs R) prism? 

No. Not at all. But sometimes politics does run the show. See covid. See identity politics. Racism!!!!!!!!!

It's running rampant when it wasn't before.

[wiffleball 4,642]

8 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

No. Not at all. But sometimes politics does run the show. See covid. See identity politics. Racism!!!!!!!!!

It's running rampant when it wasn't before.

Before what?