BuckSwope 654 Posted December 1, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: On #1- if the argument is "This stuff should not be held in schools"- I 100% agree with you. No idea why you would ever need to do a drag show in a school. But if the local community decides to run a show in some building downtown (for god knows whatever reason) and a parent takes their kid to it- that is their prerogative. You, or I, or anyone here- gets to parents someone else's kid. I wouldn't take my kid to the show but if someone does- so be it. On #2. The people who scream the loudest at school board meetings and protest local libraries very much so go down the "There is porn in our libraries" route. The biggest problem again becomes- parental choice isn't enough them on those books. They just want them removed. It is trying to parent out people's kids. And while some of the books are ridiculous that anyone would ever put them into an elementary school. Some of the books that end up on those hit lists are there because it has an "interracial couple" or a black kid murdered by a white person during the Civil Rights era. On #3- as Old Maid mentioned- "twerking" is mainstream now. Kids know what it is. Parents know what it is. Grandparents know what it is. Athletes do it. It's everywhere The toothpaste isn't going back into the tube on that one- again whether you or I like it or not. They don't need to go to a drag show to see it. They can just watch the NFL on Sunday afternoon. I think one of the biggest disagreements I see are about the books and what should be allowed in school. IMO there are several variables: is it inappropriate or not? Why is it inappropriate, and are we applying the same to all books? How much should we control what other parents think is OK for their kid? (for example I think there is a big different between a book being assigned in a classroom or one that is read allowed to kids vs. one that happens to be on a shelf in the library). But again, this is the internet so there is no need for any of that type of discussion. If you don't agree with somebody on every single point, that means you support pedos and groomers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,558 Posted December 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Eh...KSB doesn't bother me. I'm okay with just trying to discuss things civilly with him. After the 10th time he said something like “I just can’t BELIEVE we can’t all agree that there shouldn’t be CACK pics in school - think of the children!!!!” You should catch on that he’s not discussing anything in good faith. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,355 Posted December 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, OldMaid said: Everybody cut footloose! Twerking suits you as you have the emotional maturity and personality for it. Hopefully the talent as well. That you can't see it as inappropriate for girls is disappointing. but you've never demonstrated much in the way of maternal instinct anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,996 Posted December 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: I think one of the biggest disagreements I see are about the books and what should be allowed in school. IMO there are several variables: is it inappropriate or not? Why is it inappropriate, and are we applying the same to all books? How much should we control what other parents think is OK for their kid? (for example I think there is a big different between a book being assigned in a classroom or one that is read allowed to kids vs. one that happens to be on a shelf in the library). But again, this is the internet so there is no need for any of that type of discussion. If you don't agree with somebody on every single point, that means you support pedos and groomers. People on the right (primarily a bunch of Christian fundamentalist organizations) released a hitlist of books for people to attack schools over. So you saw a ton of schools across the country having meetings on these books because "They are in the library." At the district where I work the one book was listed as an online copy that was accessible through a database that the kid would have to go to the library, and search for the book by author or name, and then download the PDF version of the novel to their computer. It just so happens that the kid of one of the parents who runs with one of those organizations found the book. There were 5 or 6 books that crept up on all the lists. I wish I could remember the names of them. But none of them were in curriculum. They were not spotlighted in the library. They were just sitting on the shelves. Still- people complained, because they were conditioned to complain. Also, on the topic of banning books with sex content. Hell Great Gatsby (the great American novel) has a scene that in a roundabout way implies Nick Carraway fooks the photographer guy as he is standing there in his underwear with him in bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Horseman said: Another sicko that bathes with his kids. Figures. I missed this gem earlier. You must be HT's twin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,576 Posted December 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: - IMO 95%+ of people you would talk to honestly about this and go example by example like this also would also largely agree. Hence, I don't think that liberals as a whole agree with this and support this. 95% of the sick fok liberals in here go out of their way to defend and dismiss this behavior. Read the thread, are you blind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted December 1, 2022 I just checked, I've been a member of the Geek Club for 20 years. I've come and gone, sometimes months, maybe a year at a time. The Geek Club was the first "Social Media" for me, it's a bunch of random misfits that talk shiot together. I've enjoyed and still do the back and forth on things like Abortion, Gun Control, Healthcare, on and on. I especially enjoy the drafts and golf leagues, all sorts of Geek Club nonsense. I've learned some things and my stances on some issues have ebbed and flowed over the years. With that said, this will be my last post in this particular thread. I have stated my stance and refuse to continue to roll in this mud with you pigs. I draw the line at the kids; Ya'll have at it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: 95% of the sick fok liberals in here go out of their way to defend and dismiss this behavior. Read the thread, are you blind. I'm sure they do, just like I bath with my kids on a daily basis probably. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,551 Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, KSB2424 said: I just checked, I've been a member of the Geek Club for 20 years. I've come and gone, sometimes months, maybe a year at a time. The Geek Club was the first "Social Media" for me, it's a bunch of random misfits that talk shiot together. I've enjoyed and still do the back and forth on things like Abortion, Gun Control, Healthcare, on an on. I especially enjoy the drafts and golf leagues, all sorts of Geek Club nonsense. I've learned some things and my stances on some issues have ebbed and flowed over the years. With that said, this will be my last post in this particular thread. I have stated my stance and refuse to continue to roll in this mud with you pigs. I draw the line at the kids; Ya'll have at it. Respect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,133 Posted December 1, 2022 20 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Twerking suits you as you have the emotional maturity and personality for it. Hopefully the talent as well. That you can't see it as inappropriate for girls is disappointing. but you've never demonstrated much in the way of maternal instinct anyway. Dancing has always been considered inappropriate and too sexual from the overly uptight groups, predating all of us here. Cheerleaders in high school can be seen twerking these days. And yes, women older than me are doing it. Sorry you are behind the times. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Horseman said: He's referring to when you said people were attacking kids for twerking at drag shows. In your defense of these shows you tried to "hide" behind the kids. Nobody blames the 5 year olds for their parents taking them to these things. HTH Only problem is it never happened you dumb sh1t. Classic tardcore move is to make up sh1t that people say. Idiots like you believe him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,551 Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Horseman said: 95% of the sick fok liberals in here go out of their way to defend and dismiss this behavior. Read the thread, are you blind. Yup. But it’s done me a favor. As my kids are getting older and socializing more it reminds me that there are freaks amd shite parents like the ones here and they probably don’t keep a tight lid on filth and other stuff in their house. Anything goes with these slimy filthbags. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,551 Posted December 1, 2022 Just now, Shooter McGavin said: Only problem is it never happened you dumb sh1t. Classic tardcore move is to make up sh1t that people say. Idiots like you believe him. Exhibit A Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 1, 2022 https://youtu.be/ONJfUhgyuKQ This is the girl twerking. Anyone that thinks that tiny little innocent girl is simulating sex is a disgusting piece of sh1t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 2,005 Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Shooter McGavin said: https://youtu.be/ONJfUhgyuKQ This is the girl twerking. Anyone that thinks that tiny little innocent girl is simulating sex is a disgusting piece of sh1t Anyone who thinks it’s okay is a disgusting POS. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,576 Posted December 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Only problem is it never happened you dumb sh1t. Classic tardcore move is to make up sh1t that people say. Idiots like you believe him. 4 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: https://youtu.be/ONJfUhgyuKQ This is the girl twerking. Anyone that thinks that tiny little innocent girl is simulating sex is a disgusting piece of sh1t You just did it again. HFS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Horseman said: You just did it again. HFS. That's me saying people are attacking the kid? For focks sake you ass holes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,355 Posted December 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: https://youtu.be/ONJfUhgyuKQ This is the girl twerking. Anyone that thinks that tiny little innocent girl is simulating sex is a disgusting piece of sh1t Not in her mind, no. She's being groomed by adults including you. Also I can't watch the video, China is on the VPN warpath right now, I assume its the same one discussed earlier. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,996 Posted December 1, 2022 Can honestly say I knew absolutely nothing about what goes on at drag shows or what the people look like there...only thing remotely drag related I've ever seen was The Rocky Horror Picture Show...and that movie sucks butt And I gotta say- for a bunch of dudes who are completely against and grossed out by them you guys seem to be very invested in describing them in great detail. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Voltaire said: Not in her mind, no. She's being groomed by adults including you. Also I can't watch the video, China is on the VPN warpath right now, I assume its the same one discussed earlier. Fock you egg roll, I'm not grooming a kid. Is it possible to have a real conversation here anymore? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,551 Posted December 1, 2022 You stick around long enough and a liberal will pigeon hole race into the conversation at some point. I would love to see any parent protesting a book recently because it solely contained an interracial relationship. I doubt it. Liberals use kids and minorities as shields. Sometimes as spears. Disgusting people. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 1, 2022 Just now, Sean Mooney said: Can honestly say I knew absolutely nothing about what goes on at drag shows or what the people look like... And I gotta say- for a bunch of dudes who are completely against and grossed out by them you guys seem to be very invested in describing them in great detail. Pretty sure many are closet gays Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,576 Posted December 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: That's me saying people are attacking the kid? For focks sake you ass holes. "Anyone that thinks that tiny little innocent girl is simulating sex" Nobody thinks that dumbass. Quit hiding behind that red herring. Its funny because apparently you're a really tiny man and could literally hide behind a child. 6 minutes ago, Voltaire said: Not in her mind, no. She's being groomed by adults including you. Bingo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,551 Posted December 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Horseman said: You just did it again. HFS. It’s unreal. I’m not watching but whatever that pervert posted I’m sure contains some inappropriate behavior for a child taught to her by adults with the same mindset as Gutterboy and some of these other immoral lowlifes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Horseman said: "Anyone that thinks that tiny little innocent girl is simulating sex" Nobody thinks that dumbass. Quit hiding behind that red herring. If funny because apparently you're a really tiny man and could literally hide behind a child. Bingo Well then what is wrong with the dance? She's shaking her hips, and bad about it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,355 Posted December 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: I just checked, I've been a member of the Geek Club for 20 years. I've come and gone, sometimes months, maybe a year at a time. The Geek Club was the first "Social Media" for me, it's a bunch of random misfits that talk shiot together. I've enjoyed and still do the back and forth on things like Abortion, Gun Control, Healthcare, on and on. I especially enjoy the drafts and golf leagues, all sorts of Geek Club nonsense. I've learned some things and my stances on some issues have ebbed and flowed over the years. With that said, this will be my last post in this particular thread. I have stated my stance and refuse to continue to roll in this mud with you pigs. I draw the line at the kids; Ya'll have at it. I know where this is coming from. My goodness, the fact that we're not all in 90-100% agreement on this is extremely disappointing. In most threads, I can at least understand where people I disagree with are coming from. But not here. This thread breaks the internet like no other. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 585 Posted December 1, 2022 I’m reluctant to ever get in on these discussions. You’re all basically myopic fcktards. However, I can’t resist refuting the suggestion that twerking is just a dance move or that it isn’t sexual. We’re not talking about Elvis shaking his pelvis or Chubby Checker doing The Twist. Twerking is literally a simulation of what a man sees when banging his gal Reverse Cowgirl. Saying otherwise is facile, insincere or outright dumb. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,551 Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Voltaire said: I know where this is coming from. My goodness, the fact that we're not all in 90-100% agreement on this is extremely disappointing. In most threads, I can at least understand where people I disagree with are coming from. But not here. This thread breaks the internet like no other. It’s really sad. These are men with children. We are focked. Weak men have never and will never make a great, safe country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,996 Posted December 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I know where this is coming from. My goodness, the fact that we're not all in 90-100% agreement on this is extremely disappointing. In most threads, I can at least understand where people I disagree with are coming from. But not here. This thread breaks the internet like no other. I think we all are 90% in agreement. It's the last 10% that gets strung out and the point gets obfuscated into oblivion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, MLCKAA said: I’m reluctant to ever get in on these discussions. You’re all basically myopic fcktards. However, I can’t resist refuting the suggestion that twerking is just a dance move or that it isn’t sexual. We’re not talking about Elvis shaking his pelvis or Chubby Checker doing The Twist. Twerking is literally a simulation of what a man sees when banging his gal Reverse Cowgirl. Saying otherwise is facile, insincere or outright dumb. Looking at a toddler moving her hips and thinking about her having sex is disgusting. Maybe you should keep out of these discussions Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You stick around long enough and a liberal will pigeon hole race into the conversation at some point. I would love to see any parent protesting a book recently because it solely contained an interracial relationship. Liberals use kids and minorities as shields. Sometimes as spears. Disgusting people. I don't think the implication is that the objection is solely on the interracial couple. It's not. Again, this is you adding in extra words. I have seen several of the lists of these offensive books. Maybe you should take an honest look at them too. When your list of objectional books that have to do with sexual situations are largely: a book with an questionable sexual situation .... between lesbians. a book with a questionable sexual situation ..... with an interracial couple. I think you are bright enough to get the picture. That was what I was talking about with the ridiculous application of these objections. People look right past examples that are probably in the same library and a parents probably don't think twice if their kid is reading and readily available - I usually give the example of Stephen King and IT. Nope, not upset about that, it's the random LGBTQ book that is probably not even at their kid's library that they saw a passage from on SM! Most of the offensive books list largely read like this mixed with a healthy dose of dumb anti-Harry Potter level religious nuttiness. I am 1000% fine with us drawing a line in the sand and agreeing that X shouldn't be allowed in a school library, I just ask that we apply it universally and if you aren't it's probably reasonable to suggest to think about why that is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,576 Posted December 1, 2022 There needs to be a law for minimum IQ for people wanting to breed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,551 Posted December 1, 2022 Just now, BuckSwope said: I don't think the implication is that the objection is solely on the interracial couple. It's not. Again, this is you adding in extra words. I have seen several of the lists of these offensive books. Maybe you should take an honest look at them too. When your list of objectional books that have to do with sexual situations are largely: a book with an questionable sexual situation .... between lesbians. a book with a questionable sexual situation ..... with an interracial couple. I think you are bright enough to get the picture. That was what I was talking about with the ridiculous application of these objections. People look right past examples that are probably in the same library and a parents probably don't think twice if their kid is reading and readily available - I usually give the example of Stephen King and IT. Nope, not upset about that, it's the random LGBTQ book that is probably not even at their kid's library that they saw a passage from on SM! Most of the offensive books list largely read like this mixed with a healthy dose of dumb anti-Harry Potter level religious nuttiness. I am 1000% fine with us drawing a line in the sand and agreeing that X shouldn't be allowed in a school library, I just ask that we apply it universally and if you aren't it's probably reasonable to suggest to think about why that is. You’re so fos. One of you dikheads brought up books being banned because of an interracial relationship. I said solely for clarification. If the book was a problem because of it’s sexual content and the characters happen to be of different races, the race component isn’t the issue, but filthy liberals like you will say it is. Because it’s what you do. Nice try chump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,996 Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, BuckSwope said: I don't think the implication is that the objection is solely on the interracial couple. It's not. Again, this is you adding in extra words. I have seen several of the lists of these offensive books. Maybe you should take an honest look at them too. When your list of objectional books that have to do with sexual situations are largely: a book with an questionable sexual situation .... between lesbians. a book with a questionable sexual situation ..... with an interracial couple. I think you are bright enough to get the picture. That was what I was talking about with the ridiculous application of these objections. People look right past examples that are probably in the same library and a parents probably don't think twice if their kid is reading and readily available - I usually give the example of Stephen King and IT. Nope, not upset about that, it's the random LGBTQ book that is probably not even at their kid's library that they saw a passage from on SM! Most of the offensive books list largely read like this mixed with a healthy dose of dumb anti-Harry Potter level religious nuttiness. I am 1000% fine with us drawing a line in the sand and agreeing that X shouldn't be allowed in a school library, I just ask that we apply it universally and if you aren't it's probably reasonable to suggest to think about why that is. On the bolded part- YUP! More fun to add words in I guess. More power to em. Funniest note I've ever seen on a book that someone tried to ban was in Canada. They tried to get Hop on Pop pulled from a community library because the book encouraged violence against fathers and the library should be forced to pay any and all medical costs incurred by the dads getting hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,576 Posted December 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Looking at a toddler moving her hips and thinking about her having sex is disgusting. Maybe you should keep out of these discussions Hiding behind the toddler again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,576 Posted December 1, 2022 21 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Can honestly say I knew absolutely nothing about what goes on at drag shows or what the people look like there...only thing remotely drag related I've ever seen was The Rocky Horror Picture Show...and that movie sucks butt And I gotta say- for a bunch of dudes who are completely against and grossed out by them you guys seem to be very invested in describing them in great detail. Leave the cave much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted December 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: https://youtu.be/ONJfUhgyuKQ This is the girl twerking. Anyone that thinks that tiny little innocent girl is simulating sex is a disgusting piece of sh1t I think I am 1/2 way between all of you. I don't think she is simulating sex or even knows largely WTF she is doing. I do find it bizzare how much people are encouraging that specific thing and where she learned to do it in the first place. Sorry, that video is a bit creepier than I was expecting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,355 Posted December 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Well then what is wrong with the dance? She's shaking her hips, and bad about it? My God, now you're criticing her for poor technique. You're not ashamed to post this? (exhale) What's wrong with the dance? Two things come to mind. One is the fact that a young girl is imitating a stripper. The other are the adults teaching and applauding her for imitating a stripper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,996 Posted December 1, 2022 1 minute ago, BuckSwope said: I think I am 1/2 way between all of you. I don't think she is simulating sex or even knows largely WTF she is doing. I do find it bizzare how much people are encouraging that specific thing and where she learned to do it in the first place. Sorry, that video is a bit creepier than I was expecting. I'm shocked anybody is clicking on the video link. Anyone who has should be ashamed of themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted December 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Voltaire said: My God, now you're criticing her for poor technique. You're not ashamed to post this? (exhale) What's wrong with the dance? Two things come to mind. One is the fact that a young girl is imitating a stripper. The other are the adults teaching and applauding her for imitating a stripper. She has her clothes on. Strippers take their clothes off. Try again chopsticks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites