[** Official President Joe Biden Thread **]

[Matterhorn 3]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yes, open borders is having an impact on my life. Where do you think those kids go to school? Who is paying for every other program they draw from? Where is all the fentanyl coming from ? How about the criminals walking in here, and the child trafficking? Are you really going with the “it’s not a big deal” rationale? 

Oh stop.

Immigration is a subject I am personally very, very familiar with.  It is having no bigger or smaller impact on your life now than anytime before... not in any noticeable regard.

And are you under the impression the right has done or would do anything about it?  If so you have been duped.

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

Matterhorn's a TDS stricken turd trying to pretend he's another one of the board's "centrists". Isn't that special. I'm guessing another rusty or mooney character? 

[Matterhorn 3]

2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

It's hard to get "cancelled" in a more conservative site. 

All you have to do at fbg to get cancelled is post an article about aoc and disagree with it. No bad language or anything. 

This is true, and part of why I am checking things out over here.  FBG has gone soft.

I enjoy a good back and forth.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, Matterhorn said:

Oh stop.

Immigration is a subject I am personally very, very familiar with.  It is having no bigger or smaller impact on your life now than anytime before... not in any noticeable regard.

And are you under the impression the right has done or would do anything about it?  If so you have been duped.

 

That’s a whole lot of nothing. I say how it affects my life, and other peoples life.  You say no it’s not. Awesome. I’m under the impression that it’s a lot worse under Biden than Trump. Because it is. Welcome back. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

25 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Why don’t you supply links? It seems you rarely do? To me that means you are full of crap.

https://carnegieendowment.org/chinafinancialmarkets/83746

 

Care to try again.

 

Also hilarious for someone to say "Trump is standing up to shills." He instilled some of them in spots, and where he didn't he enabled a lot of dummies. 

[Matterhorn 3]

2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Matterhorn's a TDS stricken turd trying to pretend he's another one of the board's "centrists". Isn't that special. I'm guessing another rusty or mooney character? 

 

What is TDS.

And while its been more than a decade since I spent time here, I was among the OG's.  Just like the other place.

[5-Points 3,577]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s a whole lot of nothing. I say how it affects my life, and other peoples life.  You say no it’s not. Awesome. I’m under the impression that it’s a lot worse under Biden than Trump. Because it is. Welcome back. 

Indisputable 

[5-Points 3,577]

Just now, Matterhorn said:

 

What is TDS.

And while its been more than a decade since I spent time here, I was among the OG's.  Just like the other place.

What was your OG handle?

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, 5-Points said:

Indisputable 

Absolutely indisputable. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, 5-Points said:

What was your OG handle?

Maybe it was Monkey Death Car. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

20 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

The states with Republican governors are doing fine. Arizona, Texas, Utah, and Idaho have all ready recover all the jobs lost by the pandemic and Florida has surpassed pre COVID numbers.

Something something links or full of crap right?

Also, 5 states of 50....10%...perfect!@

[Matterhorn 3]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s a whole lot of nothing. I say how it affects my life, and other peoples life.  You say no it’s not. Awesome. I’m under the impression that it’s a lot worse under Biden than Trump. Because it is. Welcome back. 

In a sense, yes... the world is less locked down.  There are definitely more people coming across today than the last two years.  I would doubt it is much different than pre pandemic.

It has been demonstrated, righ in front of your eyes for decades - it is an EASY fix.  Neither side wants it fixed.The most hilarious example of this was in the late 90's with the conservative governor/politicians in Nebraska. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

biden sucks bull cacks. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

5 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Indisputable 

Despite everything I pointed out to the contrary. You guys like to say "At least there are no mean tweets right" but you guys treat Trump the same way a submissive does their dominatrix when it comes to Trump. "Oh yes- please spit in my mouth brutal master." I'm pretty sure that is how utilit99 jacks off at this point. Watching episodes of The Apprentice the same way people watch Brazzers videos. 

[Matterhorn 3]

8 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

What was your OG handle?

That is the problem... its been a decade or more (definitely more) since I spent time here.  Don't remember.  I'd imagine something Barry Sanders related, but I can't recall.  Most of my message board handles from my 20's were.  Although my FBG handle isn't barry related.. so I dunno.

Stopped coming here for reasons I don't remember.. I think the other place was just bigger and more engaging.

It appears some old ass email too... 

[Matterhorn 3]

I imagine I'd be easy to nail down over at FBG.

Only so many people left in the world that aren't up to their eyeballs in partisan crap.

[5-Points 3,577]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

Despite everything I pointed out to the contrary. You guys like to say "At least there are no mean tweets right" but you guys treat Trump the same way a submissive does their dominatrix when it comes to Trump. "Oh yes- please spit in my mouth brutal master." I'm pretty sure that is how utilit99 jacks off at this point. Watching episodes of The Apprentice the same way people watch Brazzers videos. 

What are you babbling about? 

Are you suggesting that illegal immigration hasn't increased since this administration ended Trump's "Remain in Mexico" policy? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

3 minutes ago, Matterhorn said:

In a sense, yes... the world is less locked down.  There are definitely more people coming across today than the last two years.  I would doubt it is much different than pre pandemic.

It has been demonstrated, righ in front of your eyes for decades - it is an EASY fix.  Neither side wants it fixed.The most hilarious example of this was in the late 90's with the conservative governor/politicians in Nebraska. 

Trump wanted to fix it.  He made it better, not perfect. But you’re right , RINOS don’t want to make it better. If you think Trump voters are aligned with Mitch McConnell and the rest of the establishment republicans you’re mistaken. The best that can be said about them is they are the lesser of two evils. But I don’t say that. They are worse. 

[Matterhorn 3]

Just now, 5-Points said:

What are you babbling about? 

Are you suggesting that illegal immigration hasn't increased since this administration ended Trump's "Remain in Mexico" policy? 

I would suggest Trump policy had less to do with it than other obvious stuff happening in the world.

I would also tell you that any numbers you see on immigration are as manipulated as those with Covid.

[Matterhorn 3]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump wanted to fix it.  He made it better, not perfect. But you’re right , RINOS don’t want to make it better. If you think Trump voters are aligned with Mitch McConnell and the rest of the establishment republicans you’re mistaken. The best that can be said about them is they are the lesser of two evils. But I don’t say that. They are worse. 

He built a wall as a symbol of just how serious he was.  Put a ban on Muslims.

We already know how effective walls are (they aren't), and the rest was window dressing.

I'd bet my 401k that there are illegal workers all over Trump's businesses.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

16 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

https://carnegieendowment.org/chinafinancialmarkets/83746

 

Care to try again.

 

Also hilarious for someone to say "Trump is standing up to shills." He instilled some of them in spots, and where he didn't he enabled a lot of dummies. 

yep I definitely don't like alot of the people that he put in places, but yes he did stand up to the uniparty and the MSM

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,364]

Just now, Matterhorn said:

He built a wall as a symbol of just how serious he was.  Put a ban on Muslims.

We already know how effective walls are (they aren't), and the rest was window dressing.

I'd bet my 401k that there are illegal workers all over Trump's businesses.

liberal sources say walls only eliminate 60% of illegal immigration

I will take that

if walls dont work, why is every politician behind them?

why are all rich people?

 

[5-Points 3,577]

Just now, Matterhorn said:

I would suggest Trump policy had less to do with it than other obvious stuff happening in the world.

I would also tell you that any numbers you see on immigration are as manipulated as those with Covid.

I have zero doubt about that. 

 

I would disagree with your first statement. When people don't think they will be welcomed somewhere they tend not to go to that place.

Trump's policies made it clear that if you wanted in, you needed to come through the front door. Biden took the back door off the hinges waved them all in. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

9 minutes ago, Matterhorn said:

He built a wall as a symbol of just how serious he was.  Put a ban on Muslims.

We already know how effective walls are (they aren't), and the rest was window dressing.

I'd bet my 401k that there are illegal workers all over Trump's businesses.

Put a ban on Muslims? When? I’ve heard enough from this guy. The Biden admin is flying illegals all over the country, and hiding it. But it’s the same. Ok Biden won’t deport criminals. But it’s the same. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

We’re really discussing the border and someone is saying it’s the same as it was before. Nope. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

12 minutes ago, Matterhorn said:

He built a wall as a symbol of just how serious he was.  Put a ban on Muslims.

We already know how effective walls are (they aren't), and the rest was window dressing.

I'd bet my 401k that there are illegal workers all over Trump's businesses.

We all know walls aren’t 100 pct effective. Saying walls aren’t effective at all is just ridiculous.  At least say walls aren’t necessary. That can be debated. 

[jerryskids 6,852]

30 minutes ago, Matterhorn said:

Oh stop.

Immigration is a subject I am personally very, very familiar with.  It is having no bigger or smaller impact on your life now than anytime before... not in any noticeable regard.

And are you under the impression the right has done or would do anything about it?  If so you have been duped.

 

First of all, welcome.  Any poster who turns this place a little less into a conservative echo chamber is good in my book. 

To your point, I wouldn't say I'm very very familiar with immigration, but I do live in Arizona so I'm on the front lines of its impact.  Your argument about impacting day to day lives is an example of boiling a frog.  You probably know the concept, but if not:  any one degree rise in the water is imperceptible, as is any one illegal immigrant crossing.  Until one day the frog is boiled.

That being said there has always been a good equilibrium of illegal aliens here, if market forces are allowed to work.  My concern is when unnatural things occur like pandemics combined with an administration which is practically asking people to cross over.  It's fine so far; the frog is still alive.  

[5-Points 3,577]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Put a ban on Muslims? When? I’ve heard enough from this guy. The Biden admin is flying illegals all over the country, and hiding it. But it’s the same. Ok Biden won’t deport criminals. But it’s the same. 

But it hasn't been reported on CNN or MSNBC so they don't know about it. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’d say open borders is pretty far left.  Smuggling them into the rest of the country is definitely far left. 

Your view of these so-called "open borders" is similar to saying "our cities are burning" during the 2020 riots. Our borders are not open, and no city was burned.

Just another example of alt-right misinformation, delusion, ignorance and blind finger-pointing without bothering to chase down facts.

Check out this article (even though you won't):

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/11/09/whats-happening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

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The (Clownzo) administration began expelling migrants in March 2020 under a public health order aimed at limiting the spread of COVID-19. The Biden administration has continued to expel migrants under the same order.

Meanwhile, we spent more on the U.S. Border Patrol in 2021 than in any year under the Clownzo administration:

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/the-cost-of-immigration-enforcement-and-border-security#:~:text=Figure 1%3A U.S. Border Patrol Budget%2C FY 1990-2021&text=Since 2003%2C the budget of,FY 2021 (Figure 2).

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, Matterhorn said:

I know, and I'm labelled a hardcore Trumper at the other place.

It is a good measuring stick to let me know I am right where I want to be.

I'm right there with you. Around here, the Clownzoids label you a liberal if you're anywhere to the left of Newsmax. But it's fun to post actual facts that they try to twist around or just dismiss the information source because it didn't come from Tucker Carlson.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

6 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Your view of these so-called "open borders" is similar to saying "our cities are burning" during the 2020 riots. Our borders are not open, and no city was burned.

Just another example of alt-right misinformation, delusion, ignorance and blind finger-pointing without bothering to chase down facts.

Check out this article (even though you won't):

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/11/09/whats-happening-at-the-u-s-mexico-border-in-7-charts/

Meanwhile, we spent more on the U.S. Border Patrol in 2021 than in any year under the Clownzo administration:

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/the-cost-of-immigration-enforcement-and-border-security#:~:text=Figure 1%3A U.S. Border Patrol Budget%2C FY 1990-2021&text=Since 2003%2C the budget of,FY 2021 (Figure 2).

Flying the illegals all over the country is expensive. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

How stupid is Rusty? He thinks spending more at the border is indicative of enforcing the border. The level of stupidity is shocking. I guess in his world more illegals would eat less, not more. Never mind the rest that has to be spent on them also increasing with larger numbers of them. Whatever. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Flying the illegals all over the country is expensive. 

Nice attempt at deflection and gish-galloping, but flying someone from Point A to Point B inside the country doesn't mean our borders are "open."

Our borders are not open. We had record border-patrol spending in 2021, and illegal border crossings were higher under Clownzo.

I've already tossed out the stone-cold facts, so you're deploying your usual tactic of trying to take the debate in another direction.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Nice attempt at deflection and gish-galloping, but flying someone from Point A to Point B inside the country doesn't mean our borders are "open."

Our borders are not open. We had record border-patrol spending in 2021, and illegal border crossings were higher under Clownzo.

I've already tossed out the stone-cold facts, so you're deploying your usual tactic of trying to take the debate in another direction.

Are you comparing four years of Trump to one year of Biden? You would have to be. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Our borders aren’t open, crime isn’t up,  Biden has nothing to do with inflation, the economy is fine, and the Afghanistan withdrawal was a smooth operation. Got it. Thanks libtards! I didn’t know, and now I do! 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Next thing Rusty will tell us is that Fentanyl seizures are at an all time high. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

34 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Nice attempt at deflection and gish-galloping, but flying someone from Point A to Point B inside the country doesn't mean our borders are "open."

Our borders are not open. We had record border-patrol spending in 2021, and illegal border crossings were higher under Clownzo.

I've already tossed out the stone-cold facts, so you're deploying your usual tactic of trying to take the debate in another direction.

You should change the name of this thread to ***The Official Whining Pvssy TDS Thread***

You and mooney would be fighting it out for first place. 

[Baker Boy 1,704]

45 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Nice attempt at deflection and gish-galloping, but flying someone from Point A to Point B inside the country doesn't mean our borders are "open."

Our borders are not open. We had record border-patrol spending in 2021, and illegal border crossings were higher under Clownzo.

I've already tossed out the stone-cold facts, so you're deploying your usual tactic of trying to take the debate in another direction.

DISASTER: Biden’s December Illegal Border Crossing Numbers Worse Than 3 Previous Years Combined

 

Migrants were encountered 1.7 million times in the last 12 months, the highest number of illegal crossings recorded since at least 1960.
 

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Look the border wall is the compromise option with the left.  If that fails to fix the issue, then this is an outright invasion by central and south america and it's war. 

[Masshole 642]

 

On 2/5/2022 at 9:51 AM, Sean Mooney said:

Also, before 2021- the highest yearly growth total was 3 million....in 2014. Second highest was 2.7 million in 2015. Trump created 6.5 million in his first 3 years combined. 2021 saw Biden set a record for most jobs created in one year after months of Republicans saying he was going to ruin everything..

Just admit he didn't. Things got back on track and recovered quite nicely and move yourself on. 

"BLS Job Revisions Show Every Job Report in 2021 Was Total Garbage".    "Let that sink in. The jobs market was weaker than reported every month between June and November."    

BLS Job Revisions Show Every Job Report in 2021 Was Total Garbage - Mish Talk - Global Economic Trend Analysis