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[Utilit99 4,099]

18 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

What is a childish asspimple?

A pimpledouche!!!

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

One person made a video and laid out a case. CRT still doesn't exist in schools. And saying "the principles pervade schools" allows for a lot of interpretation and I have no idea- like you guys- as to what is actually happening. Or are we supposed to just blindly believe anything that agrees with us.

 

Also, do you want to pretend like Prager U is not a biased source? 

Like I said do you have an unbiased source?  Cause they don’t exist. And it’s not just video. I’ve seen dozens 

[Voltaire 5,322]

On 11/11/2021 at 6:54 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

The Washington Post has reported that CRT is most definitely being taught in schools. Doh! 

If fairness, the story fluctuates in the corporate legacy media. Its one of the rare times they aren't all on the same page. Sometimes its "its not taught at all", then "it MUST BE taught", then back to "it's not taught at all", then "it's really a good thing."

The leftoids get confused because the hymnal regarding the defense of CRT changes regularly and they really haven't congelled behind an excuse to run behind in order to get the parents to STFU and leave the schools and teacher's unions alone to indoctrinate their kids. Hopefully with the spotlight on CRT pretty strong now, more and more parents pay attention and learn.

[Alias Detective 1,409]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/11/13/iowa-poll-trump-leads-biden-possible-2024-matchup/8609852002/

In a hypothetical 2024 match, Donald Trump leads Joe Biden by double digits in Iowa Poll

 

 Bwahahahahahahaah

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

9 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I said nothing about her speech or it’s accuracy.  I want to pretend that when a source posts a video of a woman speaking, it’s disingenuous to attack the source.   

So the video is something you have no idea about the accuracy. It is posted by a biased source (possibly devoid of context and/or edited) but we should buy it.

 

Cool story bro. 

8 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Like I said do you have an unbiased source?  Cause they don’t exist. And it’s not just video. I’ve seen dozens 

Do you have an unbiased source? Unbiased sources exist, it just means we shouldn't blindly accept them.

6 hours ago, Voltaire said:

If fairness, the story fluctuates in the corporate legacy media. Its one of the rare times they aren't all on the same page. Sometimes its "its not taught at all", then "it MUST BE taught", then back to "it's not taught at all", then "it's really a good thing."

The leftoids get confused because the hymnal regarding the defense of CRT changes regularly and they really haven't congelled behind an excuse to run behind in order to get the parents to STFU and leave the schools and teacher's unions alone to indoctrinate their kids. Hopefully with the spotlight on CRT pretty strong now, more and more parents pay attention and learn.

 

The Washington Post didn't report anything though. A conservative pundit wrote an opinion piece for the Post and because hardcore doesn't know what opinion means he thinks it is fact. 

[LOD01 198]

45 minutes ago, Alias Detective said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/11/13/iowa-poll-trump-leads-biden-possible-2024-matchup/8609852002/

In a hypothetical 2024 match, Donald Trump leads Joe Biden by double digits in Iowa Poll

 

 Bwahahahahahahaah

Is that with their cheating?

[LOD01 198]

'rare'.

https://www.habingfamily.com/obituary/michael-mike-granata

[Fireballer 2,643]

Yall please quit with the arguing with Mooney about CRT.  "Technically speaking" a graduate level college subject has not been brought to elementary schools.  Even though this social engineering bullsh!t has many characteristics of CRT, it's not CRT.  He's just gonna continually tow the AFT line and say "CRT isn't taught" even though the AFT penned a letter in 2020 espousing the importance of CRT being introduced into schools.  That letter has since been removed from their website.  I think a proper name for this garbage is "Anti-Racist Social Engineering", ARSE for short.  It's simply social engineering through a lens of race to steer our kids to be activists and vote a certain way as adults.  Its all about power. Here's the Mooney/McAuliffe/AFT line.

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Yall please quit with the arguing with Mooney about CRT.  "Technically speaking" a graduate level college subject has not been brought to elementary schools.  Even though this social engineering bullsh!t has many characteristics of CRT, it's not CRT.  He's just gonna continually tow the AFT line and say "CRT isn't taught" even though the AFT penned a letter in 2020 espousing the importance of CRT being introduced into schools.  That letter has since been removed from their website.  I think a proper name for this garbage is "Anti-Racist Social Engineering", ARSE for short.  It's simply social engineering through a lens of race to steer our kids to be activists and vote a certain way as adults.  Its all about power. Here's the Mooney/McAuliffe/AFT line.

 

 

I think and he and his kind (Mooney) are complete cowards hiding behind semantics. Be a man and just admit that schools have been teaching kids that America is a systematically racist country. It’s pretty easy to see that has gone on in higher  “education”, witnessed by the amount of college grads and attendees that think it is. They were taught that. Don’t deny it. 

[RLLD 4,254]

24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I think and he and his kind (Mooney) are complete cowards hiding behind semantics. Be a man and just admit that schools have been teaching kids that America is a systematically racist country. It’s pretty easy to see that has gone on in higher  “education”, witnessed by the amount of college grads and attendees that think it is. They were taught that. Don’t deny it. 

The politicians, and the media, are indeed cowards.  The indicator that they know its wrong is the fact that they dance with semantics to hide it.

If there is nothing wrong, why pretend and hide it? CRT as part of the Va curriculum was on their web site since 2015; that indicates their endorsement, so then, why pretend? Because they know damnn right well what they are up to

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

50 minutes ago, RLLD said:

The politicians, and the media, are indeed cowards.  The indicator that they know its wrong is the fact that they dance with semantics to hide it.

If there is nothing wrong, why pretend and hide it? CRT as part of the Va curriculum was on their web site since 2015; that indicates their endorsement, so then, why pretend? Because they know damnn right well what they are up to

As soon as the political headwinds turned, and they didn’t have Trump hysteria covering up what they were doing, they ran. If you asked them in 2017 if they were teaching or going to teach CRT they would have said yes, America is a racist country, they just elected a white supremacist. Now they couch it or outright deny (lie) about it. They were a hell of a lot bolder when OMB was around. Shock doctrine at work. The last time the shock doctrine was implemented on a large scale we got the Iraq war. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,363]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

So the video is something you have no idea about the accuracy. It is posted by a biased source (possibly devoid of context and/or edited) but we should buy it.

 

Cool story bro. 

Do you have an unbiased source? Unbiased sources exist, it just means we shouldn't blindly accept them.

 

The Washington Post didn't report anything though. A conservative pundit wrote an opinion piece for the Post and because hardcore doesn't know what opinion means he thinks it is fact. 

Tell me one unbiased source 

[jerryskids 6,842]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

So the video is something you have no idea about the accuracy. It is posted by a biased source (possibly devoid of context and/or edited) but we should buy it.

 

I have no idea regarding the accuracy of her statements.  I am however fairly confident to say it is accurate that she said them.  And that Prager posted it.  And that you are dismissing it on the basis of Prager posting it.  I would guess that you are doing so because it is the easiest way to resolve your cognitive dissonance regarding the evidence that something that walks like a duck and talks like a duck is being taught in schools, but by golly you’ll die on the hill that it isn’t a duck.

I happen to think that we should as a society should be exposed to evidence such as her video.  Others prefer to be the thought police and shout down anything that conflicts with the Party’s strategy.  Which would you like to be, Sean?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

Even if the throughly discredited CNN posted a video of let’s say a cop kneeling on a guy for 9 minutes I wouldn’t discredit it based on the fact that CNN obtained the footage. I’d just look at the video and come to my own conclusion. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

19 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Even if the throughly discredited CNN posted a video of let’s say a cop kneeling on a guy for 9 minutes I wouldn’t discredit it based on the fact that CNN obtained the footage. I’d just look at the video and come to my own dumb conclusion. 

Fixed.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

52 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Tell me one unbiased source 

The AP, Reuters.

Prager U is wildly to the right and far more opinion than fact. 

15 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I have no idea regarding the accuracy of her statements.  I am however fairly confident to say it is accurate that she said them.  And that Prager posted it.  And that you are dismissing it on the basis of Prager posting it.  I would guess that you are doing so because it is the easiest way to resolve your cognitive dissonance regarding the evidence that something that walks like a duck and talks like a duck is being taught in schools, but by golly you’ll die on the hill that it isn’t a duck.

I happen to think that we should as a society should be exposed to evidence such as her video.  Others prefer to be the thought police and shout down anything that conflicts with the Party’s strategy.  Which would you like to be, Sean?

Geez you people are dense.

I dismissed it in part because of Prager. I also dismissed it because I know nothing about the context of her comments other than the video. What was said before? What was said after? Was it altered in anyway? I also dismissed it because I don't know what the actual lesson or context of what was being taught is. She is getting information from her kid who was being disseminated a lesson from a teacher that potentially had some different intention than the perception. So what she says is basically an interpretation, of an interpretation, of an interpretation of a concept in CRT that is not taught in K-12 curriculum. 

We should be exposed to evidence such as her video. However we should also as a society know how to vet sources and suss out the ones that are biased. Are you arguing that we should blindly accept what people post or should we be allowed to question it along the way? Which way would you like it to be Jerry?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

8 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Fixed.

Which was? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

The AP, Reuters.

Prager U is wildly to the right and far more opinion than fact. 

Geez you people are dense.

I dismissed it in part because of Prager. I also dismissed it because I know nothing about the context of her comments other than the video. What was said before? What was said after? Was it altered in anyway? I also dismissed it because I don't know what the actual lesson or context of what was being taught is. She is getting information from her kid who was being disseminated a lesson from a teacher that potentially had some different intention than the perception. So what she says is basically an interpretation, of an interpretation, of an interpretation of a concept in CRT that is not taught in K-12 curriculum. 

We should be exposed to evidence such as her video. However we should also as a society know how to vet sources and suss out the ones that are biased. Are you arguing that we should blindly accept what people post or should we be allowed to question it along the way? Which way would you like it to be Jerry?

I saw a news story about a school board meeting in Ft Worth Texas where a parent said he was going to come to the next board meeting “locked and loaded” over CRT in the schools. So maybe there is something to what you have been saying? Did you hear about this? 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

10 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Fixed.

 

He doesn't know the difference between "fact" and "opinion"- how could he possibly have a dumb conclusion?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

 

He doesn't know the difference between "fact" and "opinion"- how could he possibly have a dumb conclusion?

Well, if you watch something you base your opinion on what you have seen.  So dumb. 

[jerryskids 6,842]

10 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

The AP, Reuters.

Prager U is wildly to the right and far more opinion than fact. 

Geez you people are dense.

I dismissed it in part because of Prager. I also dismissed it because I know nothing about the context of her comments other than the video. What was said before? What was said after? Was it altered in anyway? I also dismissed it because I don't know what the actual lesson or context of what was being taught is. She is getting information from her kid who was being disseminated a lesson from a teacher that potentially had some different intention than the perception. So what she says is basically an interpretation, of an interpretation, of an interpretation of a concept in CRT that is not taught in K-12 curriculum. 

We should be exposed to evidence such as her video. However we should also as a society know how to vet sources and suss out the ones that are biased. Are you arguing that we should blindly accept what people post or should we be allowed to question it along the way? Which way would you like it to be Jerry?

Why thanks for asking Sean, I think we should be allowed to question it along the way.  Something you aren’t doing.  

I would hope that an educator understands that communication is a two way street, and that if the recipient interprets it in a different way, then something is not right with the communication.  Unfortunately another reaction may be to insist on a semantic argument and completely blame the message recipient for the “misinterpretation,” with an increasingly autistic-scale-level lack of ability to see the ducks walking all around them.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

8 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Why thanks for asking Sean, I think we should be allowed to question it along the way.  Something you aren’t doing.  

I would hope that an educator understands that communication is a two way street, and that if the recipient interprets it in a different way, then something is not right with the communication.  Unfortunately another reaction may be to insist on a semantic argument and completely blame the message recipient for the “misinterpretation,” with an increasingly autistic-scale-level lack of ability to see the ducks walking all around them.

I am doing it. I've questioned CRT. I've seen curriculum written out in schools. I've read more about curriculum across states than you have. I've written curriculum for schools. I have studied CRT in college. I know what it is, what it isn't, and where it is taught. Just because something has a racial tint does not mean it is CRT. I have said that from the start and people here get caught in the weeds of trying to be right and have no proof otherwise so they lash into attacks, or manipulation of facts, or an outright distortion of the conversation. I can see that you are now advancing to ad hominem attacks of claiming someone to be on the "autism scale" because of how they are approaching something that doesn't jive with what you want. 

It is not a semantic argument. CRT is not taught in schools. What is being debated by parents is that and their interpretation of concepts that are far more complexly argued out than soundbites posted to websites and the like. 

I have taught many things in schools, and sat in many meetings and discussions- I never EVER- enter anything with a set mind and am always willing to be convinced otherwise. But the "evidence" being purported here is weak at best and dishonest at worst. Communication is  two way street but people need to have legitimate facts that they are pulling from otherwise the system breaks down. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

Sean never, EVER enters into anything with a set mind. Unless it’s a video on Prager U. 

[jerryskids 6,842]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Sean never, EVER enters into anything with a set mind. Unless it’s a video on Prager U. 

I know right$#@!  I didn’t even mention in my last response that he did not dismiss it “in part” because of Prager, he dismissed it entirely because of it, in a nice terse statement.  I can go find the quote if he likes, or he can take the L.  Most likely he’ll ignore it or think in his mind that what he meant to say was that it was just a part.

But for a person who purports to be open to all sides, his posts are remarkably quite one-sided.  Just another mysterious centrist on our bored I guess.   

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I know right$#@!  I didn’t even mention in my last response that he did not dismiss it “in part” because of Prager, he dismissed it entirely because of it, in a nice terse statement.  I can go find the quote if he likes, or he can take the L.  Most likely he’ll ignore it or think in his mind that what he meant to say was that it was just a part.

But for a person who purports to be open to all sides, his posts are remarkably quite one-sided.  Just another mysterious centrist on our bored I guess.   

 

I made an initial statement. Then I expanded upon that statement in a later post.

Not my fault you only read one post. Also, I see you don't deny just attacking people and calling them autistic when they disagree with you. 

 

And hardcore troubadour doesn't know the meaning of basic words so he has no room to chime in. 

 

The both of you- and others in here- seem to think if you say enough crazy things for a long enough time you will win. The old "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh!t" defense. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,515]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

I made an initial statement. Then I expanded upon that statement in a later post.

Not my fault you only read one post. Also, I see you don't deny just attacking people and calling them autistic when they disagree with you. 

 

And hardcore troubadour doesn't know the meaning of basic words so he has no room to chime in. 

 

The both of you- and others in here- seem to think if you say enough crazy things for a long enough time you will win. The old "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh!t" defense. 

Seems you don’t know the meaning of Never and Ever. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Seems you don’t know the meaning of Never and Ever. 

Oh I do. I don't enter discussions with a set mind and I didn't here and I didn't do what you and Jerry's Kid are arguing...But you guys want to believe it so nothing will shake you from that. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

14 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Oh I do. I don't enter discussions with a set mind and I didn't here and I didn't do what you and Jerry's Kid are arguing...But you guys want to believe it so nothing will shake you from that. 

It's funny how you say this and yet you are so predictable in everything you do end up saying..

[DonS 3,292]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I saw a news story about a school board meeting in Ft Worth Texas where a parent said he was going to come to the next board meeting “locked and loaded” over CRT in the schools. So maybe there is something to what you have been saying? Did you hear about this? 

Dude is black and is pro CRT so this is clearly not a domestic terrorist threat.  If he was a white woman named Karen that b1tch would be on her way to Gitmo for some water boarding sessions.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fort-worth-parents-claim-pro-crt-father-threatened-them

 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

1 minute ago, Utilit99 said:

It's funny how you say this and yet you are so predictable in everything you do end up saying..

 

Ok guy who isn't a homophobe but defines himself as one. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

 

Ok guy who isn't a homophobe but defines himself as one. 

Oh boy. That was hard to predict. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

Oh boy. That was hard to predict. 

You have one trick and it ran out a long time ago. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

You have one trick and it ran out a long time ago. 

There we go. Another copy/paste comment from worms. So difficult to figure you out. 

[jerryskids 6,842]

31 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

I made an initial statement. Then I expanded upon that statement in a later post.

Not my fault you only read one post. Also, I see you don't deny just attacking people and calling them autistic when they disagree with you. 

 

And hardcore troubadour doesn't know the meaning of basic words so he has no room to chime in. 

 

The both of you- and others in here- seem to think if you say enough crazy things for a long enough time you will win. The old "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh!t" defense. 

I didn’t call you autistic, I called your behavior autistic.  There is a difference.  You seem still, remarkably, caught up on the semantic definition of CRT.  Furthermore, when confronted with examples of racial indoctrination like that video, you take the “I don’t know the context so I’ll completely dismiss it” defense. 

8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

Ok guy who isn't a homophobe but defines himself as one. 

Well, it seems somebody lives in a glass house.   

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

 

He doesn't know the difference between "fact" and "opinion"- how could he possibly have a dumb conclusion?

He doesn't actually read anything other than from like-minded board dumbasses who develop their opinions from far-right propaganda sources and believe anything a millimeter left of themselves is liberal. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

I didn’t call you autistic, I called your behavior autistic.  There is a difference.  You seem still, remarkably, caught up on the semantic definition of CRT.  Furthermore, when confronted with examples of racial indoctrination like that video, you take the “I don’t know the context so I’ll completely dismiss it” defense. 

Well, it seems somebody lives in a glass house.   

Now who is playing semantics?

Also, you are back now to arguing we shouldn't question things. 

Pick a lane dude. 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

He doesn't actually read anything other than from like-minded board dumbasses who develop their opinions from far-right propaganda sources and believe anything a millimeter left of themselves is liberal. 

Of course- you can see the hive mind set here quite a bit. 

[jerryskids 6,842]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Now who is playing semantics?

Also, you are back now to arguing we shouldn't question things. 

Pick a lane dude. 

Do you have kids?  I learned when parenting my children to label the behavior and not the person.  Things like “hitting your sister in the head is bad” vs. “you are bad.” On the flip side, if they got an A on a project, “you put a lot of effort into that and it shows” vs. “you are smart.”  So I don’t view it as semantics.

Dismissal is not questioning.

My lane is quite clear.  How about that homophobe comment?

[Nomad99 755]

You need not look any further than the cancelation of patriotic events, Halloween events and the like, to understand what's going on. Call it what you will....put legs on a snake & call it a lizard......it's still a snake.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Of course- you can see the hive mind set here quite a bit. 

"60 Minutes" had a great piece last night on this very subject, that things have gotten so polarized that people have become dangerously ignorant and uncompromising, which underscores what I've been saying for a year now about how we all need to meet in the middle. Debate and differing opinions is dandy up until the point where you only indulge in information sources that say what you want to hear and refuse to be factual and unbiased. 

Capt. Crazysauce threw gasoline on that fire and continues to widen the gap thanks to his refusal to accept the fact that he lost the election and that a few messed-up votes here and there would have tipped things in his favor. He attempted to circumnavigate the Constitution and democracy to stay in power and feed his bottomless pit of an ego, and so many on this board buy into his narcissistic baloney.