Utilit99 4,099 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, dogcows said: So, you listen to a far-left bomb-thrower and assume that’s what everybody moderate and democrat thinks? Most Republican voters are not far-right and most Dems are not far-left. When I hear disgusting stuff from far-right radio personalities, I don’t assume every GOP voter believes it. creepy joey is now a far left bomb thrower? I can see that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,559 Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, dogcows said: That is false. People who express such outrage when white supremacists are called out... Why are you offended when white supremacists are called out unless you are sympathetic to them? Most white people, including conservatives, do NOT share this opinion that they are all labeled as white supremacists. Makes me wonder about those who feel THEY are being attacked when WHITE SUPREMACISTS are being attacked. Self-labeling might not be the best policy in this case... It's not false at all. The media and Democrat politicians constantly grouped Trump supporters and white supremacists together. Basically saying, if you're a conservative white person, you're a white supremacist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,514 Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Imagine seeing this tweet and NOT being mad. I don’t have to imagine it. I lived it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,559 Posted March 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, MDC said: I don’t have to imagine it. I lived it. Sad life. I mean, you're seeing first hand how the NBA only cares about Asians being attacked after a single incident where the offender was white. Where were their comments prior to that when two black guys killed an elderly Asian man? No where... because they can't be seen being mad at black people. Where were their comments when talking about how Asians are treated... IN CHINA? Oh that's right, they took those comments back and apologized because the Chinese government threatened to take their money away. The NBA is nothing more than a hypocritical P.O.S. organization. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KayJay1971 239 Posted March 18, 2021 I'll be the first to admit I haven't really followed this story, but from what I can gather the guy did admit to killing these people? If that is the case why would he lie about the motive? He is already on the hook for the crime right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted March 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, KayJay1971 said: I'll be the first to admit I haven't really followed this story, but from what I can gather the guy did admit to killing these people? If that is the case why would he lie about the motive? He is already on the hook for the crime right? That is what many fail to understand. There are two certainties at play here. 1. If a White Supremacist commits a hate crime they are going to tell you because they want their message heard. 2. Asians are at the very bottom of the totem pole at this time. If a hate crime was the goal, the attack would have been carried out against blacks or jews. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted March 18, 2021 And the end of the day, white, black, Asian, whatever, they were killed because they were who-res. They get killed all the time, of all stripes. But the left, and garbage humans like dog cows, see a chance to point fingers. Pathetic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,559 Posted March 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: And the end of the day, white, black, Asian, whatever, they were killed because they were who-res. They get killed all the time, of all stripes. But the left, and garbage humans like dog cows, see a chance to point fingers. Pathetic. This is a typical Leftist maneuver. Look for victims... find a white aggressor, then pounce. If one doesn't exist, just wait until it happens and label that person a white supremacist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 18, 2021 4 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: It's not false at all. The media and Democrat politicians constantly grouped Trump supporters and white supremacists together. Basically saying, if you're a conservative white person, you're a white supremacist. “basically saying” = not saying at all. You’re reading between lines that aren’t even there. You keep whining and whining and whining about the left is so mean to white supremacists. Once more: if you are offended when liberals attack white supremacists, what does that say about you? I know LOTS of republicans who NEVER get their panties in a bunch when white supremacists commit hate crimes… because they openly and clearly oppose such things. For those who get deeply hurt feelings when the white power movement gets a bad rap, ya gotta wonder why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: This is a typical Leftist maneuver. Look for victims... find a white aggressor, then pounce. If one doesn't exist, just wait until it happens and label that person a white supremacist. It’s not a “white aggressor” - it’s white supremacist criminals that everybody should be upset about… you should really think about how you are self-labeling here. This victim-hood on the right is totally pathetic. What a bunch of Snowflakes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted March 19, 2021 4 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: This is a typical Leftist maneuver. Look for victims... find a white aggressor, then pounce. If one doesn't exist, just wait until it happens and label that person a white supremacist. There are no indications this sad sack of shite was any kind of white supremacist. But the leftist scum have to throw that into it. Garbage people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,322 Posted March 19, 2021 44 minutes ago, dogcows said: “basically saying” = not saying at all. You’re reading between lines that aren’t even there. You keep whining and whining and whining about the left is so mean to white supremacists. Once more: if you are offended when liberals attack white supremacists, what does that say about you? I know LOTS of republicans who NEVER get their panties in a bunch when white supremacists commit hate crimes… because they openly and clearly oppose such things. For those who get deeply hurt feelings when the white power movement gets a bad rap, ya gotta wonder why. To the left, everybody on the right is a white nationalist. Don't agree with reparations for slavery, racial 'equity'/rampant affirmative action or that Mt. Rushmore is a monument to White Supremacy = white nationalist. The paint brush term is applied to everyone and the only reaction is to tell them to fock off. People can go off into loony tune lands on either the right or the left. On the right, there is a clear borderline where people beyond it are excluded from the conversation. White Supremacy, KKK, neo-Nazis, David Duke, Richard Spencer, what have you. Then you have groups that aren't racist themselves but then chum do have the conversation with the far right groups and so get guilt by association and that's the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer. While not violent themselves, they're outspoken anti-left and find/put themselves in situations where they can be goaded into it. Attending events like Unite the Right with the real racists also doesn't do much for their public image, but that may be a one time thing. But none of that matters to the left. They were gone from social media in the second round of purges. Alex Jones was the first to go because he'd said some incredibly stupid and offensive things about the Sandy Hook shooting. That opened the can of worms because once they realized they could get rid of him and win plaudits for doing so, the onion layers started getting peeled back and the racists were soon gone as well. Then the racists they'd missed the first time. Then the anti-LGBTQ alphabet and the pro-life people. Each layer, each new round of purges, they just cut more and more into the mainstream right. Stephen Molynieux (whose name is impossible to to spell) and the Red Elephants. Soph, a brilliant 16 year old girl from upstate NY who yes, was incredibly offensive to SJW sensibilities, not gonna lie on that one, but also funny as hell. It's not hard to imagine Soph debating Greta Thunberg into a brain aneurysm then shoving her body in a dumpster and lighting it on fire. She has a personality such that she is capable of doing both. Maybe the trannies running TheyTube couldn't handle giving her their award for one million subscribers because she got canned at 992K. But they just come and purge more and more mainstream figures. Meanwhile on the left there is no border. You can give a speech praising Marx and Lenin and railing against how evil America is, then if you have a million dollar check waiting for her, invite Nancy Pelosi up to the stage and get her smiling as you take your picture together. Not that she's a communist, she's a globalist, but she's happy to sit quietly in the audience and take your money since there is no downside in it for her. You can do the same railing fake BS about white supremacy or 'cops are bad rhetoric' she'll smile and take their money too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/17/2021 at 9:41 PM, dogcows said: Who told you that? The things I’ve read on the topic have generally been about what did or did not change after segregation was made illegal in the 1960s. Also, what lingering effects there have been from the days of Jim Crow, etc. The scholars who are serious about the issues focus on things like that, NOT on accusing all white people of wrongdoing. Things like banks discriminating against people based on race, police favoring or disfavoring people based on race, hiring based on race… that’s what they are talking about. Most people aren’t in charge of those systems, so the point is not to make white people on the whole feel guilty, but to pressure the people in power to root out the remnants of racist policies still in their systems. Are there some people who want all white people to feel guilty? Sure, but that’s not the point of studying systemic racism in America. Those types of people use such studies to promote their own agenda, totally against what the actual people doing the studies wanted. I don't know what universe you are living in, but those terms are used to marginalized all white people. It is the rhetoric which pits whites against non-whites. Your words sound good in theory, but in reality they are complete bs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 19, 2021 People are STILL calling this a racial attack. Why do people lie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,514 Posted March 19, 2021 20 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Sad life. I mean, you're seeing first hand how the NBA only cares about Asians being attacked after a single incident where the offender was white. Where were their comments prior to that when two black guys killed an elderly Asian man? No where... because they can't be seen being mad at black people. Where were their comments when talking about how Asians are treated... IN CHINA? Oh that's right, they took those comments back and apologized because the Chinese government threatened to take their money away. The NBA is nothing more than a hypocritical P.O.S. organization. The NBA issued a statement saying they stand with Asian Americans against hate. They didn’t identify any particular crime other than an uptick in violence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,559 Posted March 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, MDC said: The NBA issued a statement saying they stand with Asian Americans against hate. They didn’t identify any particular crime other than an uptick in violence. Right, and the timing is just coincidental? Coincidental that it happened after a white guy went nuts but not after the numerous black guys? Let me ask you... does this statement come out had this guy been black? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted March 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Right, and the timing is just coincidental? Coincidental that it happened after a white guy went nuts but not after the numerous black guys? It could be a subtle apology on their part considering it is their tribe members doing most of the violence. https://spectator.us/topic/stop-white-lies-about-anti-asian-hate-crime/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted March 19, 2021 He only shot the ones with big hands. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,665 Posted March 19, 2021 19 minutes ago, shorepatrol said: He only shot the ones with big hands. We definitely should not be intertwining the freaks that come from Thailand with real oriental women that like to give hand jobs for money. All rub n tugs I have visited employed women with small, soft hands and none of them had an Adam's apple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,514 Posted March 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Right, and the timing is just coincidental? Coincidental that it happened after a white guy went nuts but not after the numerous black guys? Let me ask you... does this statement come out had this guy been black? No idea. Is there something wrong with the statement? Why so sensitive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted March 19, 2021 21 hours ago, dogcows said: You said: "Math is white supremacy. Being on time and working hard are white supremacy.” If not Fox Snooze or a KKK meeting, please tell me where you pick up ideas like that. The National African American Museum absolutely tied math,, being on time,, and working hard as attributes of "whiteness". You won't find the MSM or the left using the term "white supremicist" very often. The term has merged to "white supremecy", which is now being mentioned alongside "whiteness". Pretty soon the "supremecy" will be dropped,, and "whiteness" will be all thats left. But the seed will have been planted. Those term allow the capture of a broader segment of the white populace as an issue v/s "supremicist" which pins things on individual. The language is merging to capture broader segments of the population in "whiteness". That's where all the evil that is plaguing blacks is rooted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted March 19, 2021 They were who-ers. That’s why they got killed. Well that and some loser who can’t get laid without them. But let’s not talk about the sex trafficking angle while the left is trying to legalize prostitution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,559 Posted March 19, 2021 2 hours ago, MDC said: No idea. Is there something wrong with the statement? Why so sensitive? You don't see how this isn't racist against not only white people, but black people? I thought you were against racism. Guess not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 19, 2021 21 hours ago, Voltaire said: To the left, everybody on the right is a white nationalist. Don't agree with reparations for slavery, racial 'equity'/rampant affirmative action or that Mt. Rushmore is a monument to White Supremacy = white nationalist. The paint brush term is applied to everyone and the only reaction is to tell them to fock off. People can go off into loony tune lands on either the right or the left. On the right, there is a clear borderline where people beyond it are excluded from the conversation. White Supremacy, KKK, neo-Nazis, David Duke, Richard Spencer, what have you. Then you have groups that aren't racist themselves but then chum do have the conversation with the far right groups and so get guilt by association and that's the Proud Boys and Patriot Prayer. While not violent themselves, they're outspoken anti-left and find/put themselves in situations where they can be goaded into it. Attending events like Unite the Right with the real racists also doesn't do much for their public image, but that may be a one time thing. But none of that matters to the left. They were gone from social media in the second round of purges. Alex Jones was the first to go because he'd said some incredibly stupid and offensive things about the Sandy Hook shooting. That opened the can of worms because once they realized they could get rid of him and win plaudits for doing so, the onion layers started getting peeled back and the racists were soon gone as well. Then the racists they'd missed the first time. Then the anti-LGBTQ alphabet and the pro-life people. Each layer, each new round of purges, they just cut more and more into the mainstream right. Stephen Molynieux (whose name is impossible to to spell) and the Red Elephants. Soph, a brilliant 16 year old girl from upstate NY who yes, was incredibly offensive to SJW sensibilities, not gonna lie on that one, but also funny as hell. It's not hard to imagine Soph debating Greta Thunberg into a brain aneurysm then shoving her body in a dumpster and lighting it on fire. She has a personality such that she is capable of doing both. Maybe the trannies running TheyTube couldn't handle giving her their award for one million subscribers because she got canned at 992K. But they just come and purge more and more mainstream figures. Meanwhile on the left there is no border. You can give a speech praising Marx and Lenin and railing against how evil America is, then if you have a million dollar check waiting for her, invite Nancy Pelosi up to the stage and get her smiling as you take your picture together. Not that she's a communist, she's a globalist, but she's happy to sit quietly in the audience and take your money since there is no downside in it for her. You can do the same railing fake BS about white supremacy or 'cops are bad rhetoric' she'll smile and take their money too. Sorry, but the supposed “liberal” belief that all Republicans are white supremacists is a twisted caricature of actual attitudes from your average Democratic voter. I’m not sure where you get this from. Is it Fox News magnifying an outrageous statement by one person here or there? Is it a liberal YouTube channel or radio show that I’m not aware of? You are taking valid criticisms of the proud boys and oath keepers and Alex Jones and imagining that “they’re coming for all conservatives.” That’s one small step for you, but a giant leap of logic. People are rightfully upset at people that attended the Unite the Right rally and the Capitol mob scene. But most people are very aware that those nuts are NOT your average Republican voter. Just like Antifa fire-bombers in Portland are not your typical liberals. And your argument about no liberals being too liberal is easily proven wrong. Just look at the last election. Bernie got beaten soundly by Biden, a moderate. And when liberal politicians like Al Franken harass women, they are held accountable by their own party (see also Cuomo who is being condemned by most liberals). Too bad the Republicans couldn’t do the same when it comes to that issue… Kavanaugh, Trump, Hastert… If some effort was spent purging extremists from one’s own side, they wouldn’t have to worry about feeling targeted when those extremists get targeted. This applies to liberals that support Antifa too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted March 19, 2021 White nationalists pose almost no danger in comparison to other fringe groups. I saw that on tv last summer. They are also far less dangerous than Islamic terrorists and urban black drug gangs and Latino groups like MS-13. White nationalists are kind of a joke in law enforcement circles. The joke is there are more informants than members in them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 19, 2021 20 hours ago, jonmx said: I don't know what universe you are living in, but those terms are used to marginalized all white people. It is the rhetoric which pits whites against non-whites. Your words sound good in theory, but in reality they are complete bs. Most white people don’t feel that way. In my experience, it is only people very far to the right on the political dial that consider themselves to be marginalized by such statements. There’s nothing wrong with admitting slavery was an actual part of American history, same with Jim Crow and segregation. It’s also not crazy to consider what lasting effects there are from centuries of policies that segregated us by skin color. Again, white people in America are absolutely not marginalized. Look at the demographics. White men in America still make the most money, live in the best neighborhoods, etc. How deep-seated is one’s victim mentality if they complain when they are in first place by a wide margin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 19, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: White nationalists pose almost no danger in comparison to other fringe groups. I saw that on tv last summer. They are also far less dangerous than Islamic terrorists and urban black drug gangs and Latino groups like MS-13. White nationalists are kind of a joke in law enforcement circles. The joke is there are more informants than members in them. The FBI doesn’t agree with you (2019 report - Trump administration) https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/confronting-white-supremacy And, sadly, many law enforcement members find it to be a joke because they are in on the joke… But keep believing that people with darker skin are inherently more dangerous if you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dogcows 1,030 Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Reality said: FYI I saw the whole video… the general tone of the cop seemed a bit too sympathetic with the killer, and that clip kind of summarized it. But this is pretty rich to me coming from the right. After all, the top story on Fox News yesterday was that Biden accidentally said “President Harris” - but sure, when it comes to this mass-murderer, can we please all put things into context? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, dogcows said: I saw the whole video… the general tone of the cop seemed a bit too sympathetic with the killer, and that clip kind of summarized it. But this is pretty rich to me coming from the right. After all, the top story on Fox News yesterday was that Biden accidentally said “President Harris” - but sure, when it comes to this mass-murderer, can we please all put things into context? Newbie, take a breath, It's all gonna be ok pumpkin. I see the emojis are creeping back in, let's reset and gather ourselves, you're doing a decent job, let's not ruin it now by being obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,644 Posted March 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, dogcows said: Sorry, but the supposed “liberal” belief that all Republicans are white supremacists is a twisted caricature of actual attitudes from your average Democratic voter. I’m not sure where you get this from. Is it Fox News magnifying an outrageous statement by one person here or there? Is it a liberal YouTube channel or radio show that I’m not aware of? You are taking valid criticisms of the proud boys and oath keepers and Alex Jones and imagining that “they’re coming for all conservatives.” That’s one small step for you, but a giant leap of logic. People are rightfully upset at people that attended the Unite the Right rally and the Capitol mob scene. But most people are very aware that those nuts are NOT your average Republican voter. Just like Antifa fire-bombers in Portland are not your typical liberals. And your argument about no liberals being too liberal is easily proven wrong. Just look at the last election. Bernie got beaten soundly by Biden, a moderate. And when liberal politicians like Al Franken harass women, they are held accountable by their own party (see also Cuomo who is being condemned by most liberals). Too bad the Republicans couldn’t do the same when it comes to that issue… Kavanaugh, Trump, Hastert… If some effort was spent purging extremists from one’s own side, they wouldn’t have to worry about feeling targeted when those extremists get targeted. This applies to liberals that support Antifa too. One thing you're right about here...the "liberal" mindset isn't pushing the "whiteness" narrative. It's leftists who are doing it. Many libs are actually now considered to the right. True white supremacy isn't really their target. Their goal is to talk about "whiteness" and "white supremacy" so much together, that wide swaths of neutral white people become the enemy. As you can see if you're paying attention, "whiteness" is the new "white supremecy", and the claim that nearly all of our institutions are founded on "whiteness" is enough to justify tearing them down and "building back better". It'd really about power and control, that's all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, dogcows said: The FBI doesn’t agree with you (2019 report - Trump administration) https://www.fbi.gov/news/testimony/confronting-white-supremacy And, sadly, many law enforcement members find it to be a joke because they are in on the joke… But keep believing that people with darker skin are inherently more dangerous if you want. The FBI? The ones who thought a garage door pull was a noose? Those guys? Political hacks. Nothing more. Yeah, lots of cops, who are more diverse than ever, are members of white supremacist groups. They keep framing all those black guys for shooting other black guys. You’re a clown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,871 Posted March 20, 2021 8 hours ago, bostonlager said: We definitely should not be intertwining the freaks that come from Thailand with real oriental women that like to give hand jobs for money. All rub n tugs I have visited employed women with small, soft hands and none of them had an Adam's apple. It looked HUUUUUUUUUUGE didn't it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,945 Posted March 20, 2021 9 hours ago, MDC said: They didn’t identify any particular crime other than an uptick in violence. Uh..... “Last night’s tragic events in Atlanta are part of a disturbing rise in violence and discrimination towards Asian Americans...........” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted March 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, vuduchile said: Uh..... “Last night’s tragic events in Atlanta are part of a disturbing rise in violence and discrimination towards Asian Americans...........” MDClown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,514 Posted March 20, 2021 15 minutes ago, vuduchile said: Uh..... “Last night’s tragic events in Atlanta are part of a disturbing rise in violence and discrimination towards Asian Americans...........” You’re right - I didn’t read that carefully. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted March 20, 2021 He killed a Hispanic male too. The count : 4 Asians, two whites, one Hispanic. Who will speak for the non-Asians? MLB? WWF? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted March 20, 2021 2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He killed a Hispanic male too. The count : 4 Asians, two whites, one Hispanic. Who will speak for the non-Asians? MLB? WWF? It is amazing how the media picks and chooses the crazies who kill. Guess what folks, it happen daily. Only the weak minded are fooled as to why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,429 Posted March 21, 2021 On 3/19/2021 at 6:44 PM, dogcows said: Most white people don’t feel that way. In my experience, it is only people very far to the right on the political dial that consider themselves to be marginalized by such statements. There’s nothing wrong with admitting slavery was an actual part of American history, same with Jim Crow and segregation. It’s also not crazy to consider what lasting effects there are from centuries of policies that segregated us by skin color. Again, white people in America are absolutely not marginalized. Look at the demographics. White men in America still make the most money, live in the best neighborhoods, etc. How deep-seated is one’s victim mentality if they complain when they are in first place by a wide margin? You need to get away from whatever ivory tower you belong to and talk to real people. 88% of whites think the media coverage of police shootings are overblown (UMass Lowell Research). 63% of whites think our country has done enough in giving equal rights to blacks (pew research). 54% of whites do not believe they receive advantage from their race (pew research) . So most white people think you as full of crao with your white privilege rhetoric and your excessive media coverage of these issues. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,518 Posted March 21, 2021 A federal judge just stated that the Washington Post and the NYT have a frightening bias against republicans. Seeing as those two are ground zero for the rest of the MSM, the debate is over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites