January 6th Insurrection = Complete Bull

[nobody 2,626]

9 minutes ago, RLLD said:

And George Floyd......and Michael Brown.....and many others..... your life experience is a direct result of your choices.....

I'm surprised he didn't see where you were going with that.  You led him right down the path.

 

[thegeneral 3,067]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

And George Floyd......and Michael Brown.....and many others..... your life experience is a direct result of your choices.....

All individual cases. IMO George Floyd was straight up killed, that cop was accurately convicted. Michael Brown shooting from what I remember was justified. 

[RLLD 4,180]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

I'm surprised he didn't see where you were going with that.  You led him right down the path.

 

TBH, its usually not that hard.  Though I have done it to MDC so much that now he simply assumes I am always doing it.  

[RLLD 4,180]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

All individual cases. IMO George Floyd was straight up killed, that cop was accurately convicted. Michael Brown shooting from what I remember was justified. 

So then, in the instance of George Floyd you assert that there was premeditation, and why do you beleive that this cop decided to kill him on that day?

[seafoam1 2,868]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

So then, in the instance of George Floyd you assert that there was premeditation, and why do you beleive that this cop decided to kill him on that day?

The "premeditation" was "racism". Not hating and fighring violent criminals. 

[BirdGang 385]

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

Again with the poop comments.  I guess you and your lover Horsesass/Roger are into that kind of thing?

Please keep that kind of perversion to yourself boyo.  

And you should should probably get some help while you're at it.

The amount of liberal you spew it’s pretty clear you must be ingesting it. Be better. 

[RLLD 4,180]

3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

The "premeditation" was "racism". Not hating and fighring violent criminals. 

Gotcha.  So it was racism against George Floyd because of the racial makeup of the two participants......luckily for us you are able to see the racism in the context.....

Wondering....if i were to show a similar circumstance, but the racial makeup were reversed....would that be racism as well, in your mind?

[Wade Garrett 155]

8 minutes ago, BirdGang said:

The amount of liberal you spew it’s pretty clear you must be ingesting it. Be better. 

Another poop reference.  You and your boyfriend Horsesass/Roger are super into that aren't you?

That's incredibly SAD boyo. 

[Wade Garrett 155]

18 minutes ago, RLLD said:

So then, in the instance of George Floyd you assert that there was premeditation, and why do you beleive that this cop decided to kill him on that day?

The cop kneeled on his neck for 10 minutes.  Doubt he deliberately tried to kill him but the incredible lack of awareness by him and his fellow cops warranted the jail sentence.

I don't care what the colors of the various folks was.  That was horrible. 

[RLLD 4,180]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

The cop kneeled on his neck for 10 minutes.  Doubt he deliberately tried to kill him but the incredible lack of awareness by him and his fellow cops warranted the jail sentence.

I don't care what the colors of the various folks was.  That was horrible. 

I appreciate your competing narrative, but the original poster has already declared that the murderer took action to feed his racism.  While your response has a more rational line of thought, it does not feed the need of people to have racism be a thing.....so you and I have to sorta accomodate the racism game a little. 

[wiffleball 4,789]

Remember the lunatic Shaman who was incredibly remorseful and claimed he had dramatic brain injury and mental retardation or something? 

 

He's apparently out already and hawking merch and talking about the real truth... 

 

Remorse...

[thegeneral 3,067]

28 minutes ago, RLLD said:

So then, in the instance of George Floyd you assert that there was premeditation, and why do you beleive that this cop decided to kill him on that day?

Chauvin placed his knee on the guy who was handcuffed for 10 minutes. In the other instances a cop was making a decision in a riot situation or while being charged at. 

You don’t see a difference in these situations? That’s crazy.

[RLLD 4,180]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Chauvin placed his knee on the guy who was handcuffed for 10 minutes. In the other instances a cop was making a decision in a riot situation or while being charged at. 

You don’t see a difference in these situations? That’s crazy.

What I see is an unfortunate situation that, while uncommon, does happen but because of the racial makeup we have actual racists pointing to this sitaution and exploiting it. Whereas the cop being black and the perp being white would never be raised, because there is no political capital to be squeezed from it.  Therefore the poltical elite and their cronies in the media ignore all but that which serves their power interests.....and the lemmings just devour it......

[thegeneral 3,067]

4 minutes ago, RLLD said:

What I see is an unfortunate situation that, while uncommon, does happen but because of the racial makeup we have actual racists pointing to this sitaution and exploiting it. Whereas the cop being black and the perp being white would never be raised, because there is no political capital to be squeezed from it.  Therefore the poltical elite and their cronies in the media ignore all but that which serves their power interests.....and the lemmings just devour it......

First off pretty much all killings are unfortunate on some level. Even many that are justifiable. 

If you want to point towards some type of unfairness or whatever using the George Floyd and Ashley Babbitt incidents aren’t good examples. One was handcuffed and pinned to the ground, the other was part of a crazed mob crawling through broken windows. Our system of judging the officers in these incidents worked properly in both these situations. 

 

[Wade Garrett 155]

29 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I appreciate your competing narrative, but the original poster has already declared that the murderer took action to feed his racism.  While your response has a more rational line of thought, it does not feed the need of people to have racism be a thing.....so you and I have to sorta accomodate the racism game a little. 

While I don't know what the OP intended, do you think the majority of responses from liberals ITT suggest the cops actions were motivated by racism.  I realize a loud minority of the country spout that but I do not think that's a majority opinion of any political party.

 

[thegeneral 3,067]

34 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I appreciate your competing narrative, but the original poster has already declared that the murderer took action to feed his racism.  While your response has a more rational line of thought, it does not feed the need of people to have racism be a thing.....so you and I have to sorta accomodate the racism game a little. 

Who is the OP you are referring to?

[RLLD 4,180]

11 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

First off pretty much all killings are unfortunate on some level. Even many that are justifiable. 

If you want to point towards some type of unfairness or whatever using the George Floyd and Ashley Babbitt incidents aren’t good examples. One was handcuffed and pinned to the ground, the other was part of a crazed mob crawling through broken windows. Our system of judging the officers in these incidents worked properly in both these situations. 

 

Unfairness.....no thank you.....

I will point to the exploitation of deaths by the political elite and their cronies in the media being a despicable act, and then the lemmings that consume it are just generally unfortunate.

[RLLD 4,180]

7 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

While I don't know what the OP intended, do you think the majority of responses from liberals ITT suggest the cops actions were motivated by racism.  I realize a loud minority of the country spout that but I do not think that's a majority opinion of any political party.

 

I do beleive that those who elevated the sitatuation did so to serve a political ideology that pursues power.  Those who fell in line are just the sychophants that have evolved over time to serve their political masters. 

Both sides of the aisle have this. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

It would be nice for once to discuss the issues surrounding what happened on January 6 without referencing the riots that occurred in 2020 as a result of the death of George Floyd. These are, in truth, two very different topics that have almost nothing to do with one another. 

[thegeneral 3,067]

11 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Unfairness.....no thank you.....

I will point to the exploitation of deaths by the political elite and their cronies in the media being a despicable act, and then the lemmings that consume it are just generally unfortunate.

Yes sometimes people do make political hay out of killings. Many on cable news make a living off of it and people do seem to love consuming it. 

In the case of George Floyd I get people being outraged and sickened by what they saw.

In the case of Ashley Babbitt it is just sad that it came to that.

More importantly and what I find disgusting in this case was it was caused by a loser, Trump, and him not be able to admit he lost. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

 

More importantly and what I find disgusting in this case was it was caused by a loser, Trump, and him not be able to admit he lost. 

Trump’s narcissism is obviously a big part of it, but I still believe that the craziness of his followers that day was motivated by an issue that’s bigger than Trump: the fear of white people becoming a minority. That’s at the root of the MAGA movement and why it will continue past the Orange Man. This refusal to accept the results of a democratic election is a phenomenon that, IMO, is only beginning. 

[thegeneral 3,067]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Trump’s narcissism is obviously a big part of it, but I still believe that the craziness of his followers that day was motivated by an issue that’s bigger than Trump: the fear of white people becoming a minority. That’s at the root of the MAGA movement and why it will continue past the Orange Man. This refusal to accept the results of a democratic election is a phenomenon that, IMO, is only beginning. 

Perhaps on some level that is one of the underlying reasons why these people were so deluded. Trump and his act about the election, his mental issues with being perceived a loser, etc are what focused these people that day. If not for him there would not have been a riot at the Capitol. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,137]

18 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

It would be nice for once to discuss the issues surrounding what happened on January 6 without referencing the riots that occurred in 2020 as a result of the death of George Floyd. These are, in truth, two very different topics that have almost nothing to do with one another. 

Not really. If you pay attention, FBI agents were directly threatened by fbi deputy director Paul Abbate with possible termination if they raised an issue about the prosecution of Jan 6 defendants and the lack of aggressive investigation of the 2020 riots.  There is clear evidence of uneven justice in the two matters. 

[Wade Garrett 155]

10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Trump’s narcissism is obviously a big part of it, but I still believe that the craziness of his followers that day was motivated by an issue that’s bigger than Trump: the fear of white people becoming a minority. That’s at the root of the MAGA movement and why it will continue past the Orange Man. This refusal to accept the results of a democratic election is a phenomenon that, IMO, is only beginning. 

Whites losing their majority is THE biggest issue from the right.  Even their stupid focus on wokeness and trans and whatever other boogeymen they're so scared of pales in comparison to their fear of losing their white majority.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,137]

More black people voting Republican than anytime in the last 50 years.  Trump increased his share of the black vote.  Move that needle a little more and the democrats are in big trouble. 

[jonmx 2,425]

2 hours ago, thegeneral said:

All individual cases. IMO George Floyd was straight up killed, that cop was accurately convicted. Michael Brown shooting from what I remember was justified. 

90 percent of them are justified.  The murder of Ashli Babbitt was worse than even George Floyd, but you will never be honest enough to admit it.  Make Ashli black and put a BLM hat on her, and the cowardly mall cop gets life in prison, and rightly so.  I am still waiting to find an honest Dem.  

[thegeneral 3,067]

42 minutes ago, jonmx said:

90 percent of them are justified.  The murder of Ashli Babbitt was worse than even George Floyd, but you will never be honest enough to admit it.  Make Ashli black and put a BLM hat on her, and the cowardly mall cop gets life in prison, and rightly so.  I am still waiting to find an honest Dem.  

This is a wild take.

[Wade Garrett 155]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

More black people voting Republican than anytime in the last 50 years.  Trump increased his share of the black vote.  Move that needle a little more and the democrats are in big trouble. 

Got a source for this boyo?

[Wade Garrett 155]

45 minutes ago, jonmx said:

90 percent of them are justified.  The murder of Ashli Babbitt was worse than even George Floyd, but you will never be honest enough to admit it.  Make Ashli black and put a BLM hat on her, and the cowardly mall cop gets life in prison, and rightly so.  I am still waiting to find an honest Dem.  

So the deranged chick squirming through a window in a full out riot after having been told many times not to is less justified than some racist cop sitting on someone's neck for 10 minutes while the dude says he can't breathe.

Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber you one up yourself.

Literally one of the stupidest people on this cesspool.

Yeesh. 

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

More black people voting Republican than anytime in the last 50 years.  Trump increased his share of the black vote.  Move that needle a little more and the democrats are in big trouble. 

Well of course. And you didn’t even mention the number of Latinos now voting Republican, which is far more significant at least for now than blacks voting Republican. 

Which is why this MAGA fear of what will happen when whites become a minority is totally irrational. Nonetheless it’s there. It’s a fear that’s on a deeper level than politics. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

90 percent of them are justified.  The murder of Ashli Babbitt was worse than even George Floyd, but you will never be honest enough to admit it.  Make Ashli black and put a BLM hat on her, and the cowardly mall cop gets life in prison, and rightly so.  I am still waiting to find an honest Dem.  

A new entry in "dumbest thing ever said"

[wiffleball 4,789]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

90 percent of them are justified.  The murder of Ashli Babbitt was worse than even George Floyd, but 

She's the chick who cut off her husband's dong in the day?

 

Glad she dead. 

[jonmx 2,425]

37 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

She's the chick who cut off her husband's dong in the day?

 

Glad she dead. 

It makes no difference to the facts of that day.  She was unarmed, had not assaulted anyone, was not an immediate threat to anyone.  100 percent unjustified.  You authoritarian bastards supported a convicted serial child molester when he ambushed and tried to kill Kyle Rittenhouse and tried to convict the innocent kid instead.

And just reinforces my view that 2023 leftist view freedom-loving Americans as the 1940 Germans saw the Jews

 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

5 minutes ago, jonmx said:

It makes no difference to the facts of that day.  She was unarmed, had not assaulted anyone, was not an immediate threat to anyone.  100 percent unjustified.  You authoritarian bastards supported a convicted serial child molester when he ambushed and tried to kill Kyle Rittenhouse and tried to convict the innocent kid instead.

She was climbing through a barricaded door window, facing an officer with his gun drawn.  Come on man.

[The Real timschochet 6,543]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

She was climbing through a barricaded door window, facing an officer with his gun drawn.  Come on man.

Wasn’t that the justification for shooting Michael Brown? That he was charging the officer? 

[Fnord 2,135]

On 6/8/2023 at 5:27 PM, jonmx said:

I hate the leftist authoritarian ideology.  I don't hate the typical leftist.  Just think they easily manipulated ignorant buffoons who have no idea what good governance is.  

 

2 hours ago, jonmx said:

 I am still waiting to find an honest Dem.  

You are a danger to yourself and others, completely deluded in your thinking. You seem very much like someone that is able and extremely willing to commit violent acts against those you disagree with. You have no concept of nuance or intellectual curiosity, and are completely hypnotized by far-right garbage. Get some focking help before you do something even dumber than posting your delusions here. You legit seem like you're about to snap.

While I was typing this, you posted this gem:

23 minutes ago, jonmx said:

You authoritarian bastards supported a convicted serial child molester when he ambushed and tried to kill Kyle Rittenhouse and tried to convict the innocent kid instead.

And just reinforces my view that 2023 leftist view freedom-loving Americans as the 1940 Germans saw the Jews

Remind me again how you don't hate leftists. You are deranged.

[seafoam1 2,868]

4 hours ago, RLLD said:

Gotcha.  So it was racism against George Floyd because of the racial makeup of the two participants......luckily for us you are able to see the racism in the context.....

Wondering....if i were to show a similar circumstance, but the racial makeup were reversed....would that be racism as well, in your mind?

I was just being sarcastic. Everything is racism from the left..

[gas 153]

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

More black people voting Republican than anytime in the last 50 years.  Trump increased his share of the black vote.  Move that needle a little more and the democrats are in big trouble. 

Narrator: False.    From the Brookings Institute:  "Contrary to the fears of some Democrats, Biden maintained solid support among African Americans. Biden received 92% of the Black vote, statistically indistinguishable from Hillary Clinton’s 91% in 2016. His support among Black women was never in doubt, but President Trump’s alleged appeal to Black men turned out to be illusory. (His share of the Black male vote fell from 14% in 2016 to 12% in 2020 while Biden raised the Democrats’ share from 81% to 87%.) African Americans confirmed their status as a unique group of voters for whom the contemporary Republican Party holds no discernible appeal."

 

 

 

[thegeneral 3,067]

1 hour ago, jonmx said:

2 hours ago, wiffleball said:

She's the chick who cut off her husband's dong in the day?

 

Glad she dead. 

It makes no difference to the facts of that day.

Weren’t you pointing out she served in the military earlier?

[jonmx 2,425]

30 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Weren’t you pointing out she served in the military earlier?

To refute your characterization of her as "the lunatic lady", not as an arguement as to whether the shooting was justified.