MDC 5,891 Posted October 13, 2021 Some of you guys have trouble differentiating between being “cancelled” and getting rightfully shiitcanned for saying stupid things in writing while on the job. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,042 Posted October 13, 2021 Just now, MDC said: Some of you guys have trouble differentiating between being “cancelled” and getting rightfully shiitcanned for saying stupid things in writing while on the job. Was he on the job? in 2011, he didn't work for the Professional Football Team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Fireballer said: Dear God. What has happened to some people? He will never stop being like this for the rest of his life. Emotionally retarded. He will turn into the next MDCack if he ever ends up posting in a place like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,382 Posted October 13, 2021 EA Sports making a deposit into their wokeness account... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted October 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Fireballer said: OMG!!!! I'm guessing he'll still get paid during these trying times? Maybe he'll be brave like Simone Biles and quit on his teammates. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 14, 2021 4 hours ago, MDC said: Some of you guys have trouble differentiating between being “cancelled” and getting rightfully shiitcanned for saying stupid things in writing while on the job. Reminder. Hunter Biden’s emails were twice as worse and the media not only ignored it, but buried it. Reminder, both the governor of Virginia and the Prime Minister of Canada wore blackface and are still in office. The Super Bowl Halftime show will feature a dude who has probably said fa**ot in songs a hundred times. And he was ……he was…..invited. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 4:05 PM, Fireballer said: JFC...this world is no more than hypocrites trying to do anything to put deposits in their woke bank accounts. It's all fluff that will hopefully save them when the woke come for them. Bending the knee just makes you more vulnerable. Rolling Stones retire classic song 'Brown Sugar' following backlash https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rolling-stones-retire-song-brown-sugar-backlash why did they have to announce this, they could have just stopped playing the song? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,042 Posted October 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Rolling Stones retire classic song 'Brown Sugar' following backlash https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/rolling-stones-retire-song-brown-sugar-backlash why did they have to announce this, they could have just stopped playing the song? I was wondering why they did that so I looked up the lyrics... Jesus Christ. De'Angelo's Brown Sugar was much better anyway. [Verse 1] Gold coast slave ship bound for cotton fields Sold in the market down in New Orleans Scarred old slaver knows he's doing alright Hear him whip the women just around midnight [Chorus] Brown sugar, how come you taste so good? Uh huh Brown sugar, just like a young girl should, uh huh, oh (Woo) [Verse 2] Drums beating, cold English blood runs hot Lady of the house wonderin' when it's gonna stop House boy knows that he's doing alright You shoulda heard 'em just around midnight [Chorus] Brown sugar, how come you taste so good now? Brown sugar, just like a young girl should now (Yeah) [Chorus] Ah, get on, brown sugar, how come you taste so good? Ah, got me craving the, the brown sugar Just like a black girl should, yeah [Verse 3] Ah, and I bet your mama was a tent show queen And all her boyfriends were sweet sixteen I'm no schoolboy, but I know what I like You shoulda heard me just around midnight [Chorus] Brown sugar, how come you taste so good, baby? Ah, come down, brown sugar Just like a young girl should, yeah [Outro] I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, woo How come you, how come you taste so good? Yeah, yeah, yeah, woo Just like a, just like a black girl should Yeah, yeah, yeah, woo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted October 14, 2021 2 hours ago, KSB2424 said: Reminder. Hunter Biden’s emails were twice as worse and the media not only ignored it, but buried it. Reminder, both the governor of Virginia and the Prime Minister of Canada wore blackface and are still in office. The Super Bowl Halftime show will feature a dude who has probably said fa**ot in songs a hundred times. And he was ……he was…..invited. I didn’t vote for Hunter, the VA Governor or the Prime Minister of Canada. The NFL is absolutely hypocritical, no argument there. So what? Fock Gruden. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted October 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, MDC said: I didn’t vote for Hunter, the VA Governor or the Prime Minister of Canada. The NFL is absolutely hypocritical, no argument there. So what? Fock Gruden. Moooo.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,266 Posted October 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: Moooo.... The TDS rages in you. Beep boop boop. 101011100011. Beep boop boop. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, MDC said: I didn’t vote for Hunter, the VA Governor or the Prime Minister of Canada. The NFL is absolutely hypocritical, no argument there. So what? Fock Gruden. Not the point. The point, which you know fully well, is that some stories are hung out to dry on the front porch for all to see and some are buried deep in the back yard....I'll let you figure out the why. It's obvious to most. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted October 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: The TDS rages in you. Beep boop boop. 101011100011. Beep boop boop. Trump = Greatest president ever. creepy joe and hussein should be thrown in prison and get the death penalty for what they have done to this country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted October 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Not the point. The point, which you know fully well, is that some stories are hung out to dry on the front porch for all to see and some are buried deep in the back yard....I'll let you figure out the why. It's obvious to most. The point is that Gruden is an ass who deserved to get chitcanned and your whatsboutisn doesn’t change that. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted October 14, 2021 Definition of: "Cannot see the forest for the trees" 1. To not understand or appreciate a larger situation, problem, etc., because one is considering only a few parts of it. 2. Cannot see, understand, or focus on a situation in its entirety due to being preoccupied with minor details. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted October 14, 2021 11 hours ago, Fireballer said: You literally cannot make this up. Reality is wackier than fiction these days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 14, 2021 8 hours ago, MDC said: The point is that Gruden is an ass who deserved to get chitcanned and your whatsboutisn doesn’t change that. This. I suspect he is an absolute ass, and I suggest his deep thoughts have likely manifested over the years. But how far back can they go in order to cancel people? Is there some line where you cannot do this to people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,382 Posted October 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, RLLD said: But how far back can they go in order to cancel people? This is one of the worst I've seen. An Xfinity driver lost Lilly pharm as a sponsor because his DAD used the n-word back in the 80s. https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nascar-auto-racing/thatsracin/article217540295.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted October 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, RLLD said: This. I suspect he is an absolute ass, and I suggest his deep thoughts have likely manifested over the years. But how far back can they go in order to cancel people? Is there some line where you cannot do this to people? Getting fired / forced to resign for your own grossly unprofessional behavior isn’t cancelling, unless you’re a bigot with a victim complex. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted October 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, MDC said: Getting fired / forced to resign for your own grossly unprofessional behavior isn’t cancelling, unless you’re a bigot with a victim complex. Grossly unprofessional behavior...... Other than Distasteful email, what other actions fall into this behavioral category? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted October 14, 2021 Some racist idiots in this thread. Also, Gruden's biggest issue was putting it in e-mails which live forever. So he is a racist, potentially homophobic, and an idiot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted October 14, 2021 Alot of things are true here, it's not one side or another 1) Gruden is a doosh and deserved to be fired. His actions were really stupid. 2) Just because he called someone a f@gg0t does mean he hates all gays, conversely you can have someone who does hate all gays but never sends emails using that word 3) Cancel culture is a problem. I'm rooting for Netflix and Chappelle. 4) The NFL is still filled with guys who call each other f@gs and pu$$ys, along with real criminals. Anyone who can put a$$es in seats gets a pass. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted October 14, 2021 42 minutes ago, RLLD said: This. I suspect he is an absolute ass, and I suggest his deep thoughts have likely manifested over the years. But how far back can they go in order to cancel people? Is there some line where you cannot do this to people? There is no line for Libs. Just look at things and names that have been taken down or renamed in thr name of a random awakening of "wokeness". We should see if any great coach ever said anything racist. I mean we should dig for it. Of we find anything they should be scrubbed from the history books. This is rational right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, MDC said: Getting fired / forced to resign for your own grossly unprofessional behavior isn’t cancelling, unless you’re a bigot with a victim complex. I think we can all lay claim to a time in our lives where we were not yet mature in our thoughts and behaviors. In fact I suspect that if someone took a snapshot of our worst day or moment it would not show well. So, is there no allowance for people to reform and "get better"? If you fall just once and it can be proven you can pay for it later in life? This does not seem rational to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted October 14, 2021 13 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think we can all lay claim to a time in our lives where we were not yet mature in our thoughts and behaviors. In fact I suspect that if someone took a snapshot of our worst day or moment it would not show well. Just look at posts made here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted October 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think we can all lay claim to a time in our lives where we were not yet mature in our thoughts and behaviors. In fact I suspect that if someone took a snapshot of our worst day or moment it would not show well. So, is there no allowance for people to reform and "get better"? If you fall just once and it can be proven you can pay for it later in life? This does not seem rational to me. I can’t tell you there was no time in my adult life or professional career where I’d have put what Gruden did in writing. At least not putting my name to it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,035 Posted October 14, 2021 10 hours ago, KSB2424 said: Not the point. The point, which you know fully well, is that some stories are hung out to dry on the front porch for all to see and some are buried deep in the back yard....I'll let you figure out the why. It's obvious to most. Let me know when the Gov of VA or PM of Canada get the same ratings as the NFL. BTW, what website are we discussing this topic? It couldn't possibly be that people here are more aware of something that they share a mutual interest in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, MDC said: I can’t tell you there was no time in my adult life or professional career where I’d have put what Gruden did in writing. At least not putting my name to it. Understood. What if in the next 5 years society evolved, and it did so to the point where a position you held was no longer acceptable or perhaps tolerated? What if, under this evolved state of society, it was deemed that YOU were no longer acceptable based on something you wrote or said? And due to this you were removed from your job, relegated to some lesser way of making a living? Is that just? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, RLLD said: I think we can all lay claim to a time in our lives where we were not yet mature in our thoughts and behaviors. In fact I suspect that if someone took a snapshot of our worst day or moment it would not show well. So, is there no allowance for people to reform and "get better"? If you fall just once and it can be proven you can pay for it later in life? This does not seem rational to me. Gruden was 48 years old when he said this. He wasn't some 15, 20, or 25 year old kid/young adult who didn't know what he was saying. And honestly on my worst day I've never called someone the hateful things he said. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, GutterBoy said: Alot of things are true here, it's not one side or another 1) Gruden is a doosh and deserved to be fired. His actions were really stupid. 2) Just because he called someone a f@gg0t does mean he hates all gays, conversely you can have someone who does hate all gays but never sends emails using that word 3) Cancel culture is a problem. I'm rooting for Netflix and Chappelle. 4) The NFL is still filled with guys who call each other f@gs and pu$$ys, along with real criminals. Anyone who can put a$$es in seats gets a pass. While I do agree that #3 does get overboard- this wasn't an incident of that. Gruden does put asses in the seats- he is one of the most celebrated coaches in today's NFL. Problem is he is/was supposed to be a leader and a representative of the league in this instance and he wasn't. He might not hate all gays but still- don't say that word. Agree too that the dumbest thing Gruden did in all of this- put it in an e-mail- is what got him fired. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted October 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: And honestly on my worst day I've never called someone the hateful things he said. You've never said "f@gg0t"? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted October 14, 2021 Words hurt man! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,891 Posted October 14, 2021 29 minutes ago, RLLD said: Understood. What if in the next 5 years society evolved, and it did so to the point where a position you held was no longer acceptable or perhaps tolerated? What if, under this evolved state of society, it was deemed that YOU were no longer acceptable based on something you wrote or said? And due to this you were removed from your job, relegated to some lesser way of making a living? Is that just? This is reality for basically everyone in the working world. Why is Jon Gruden the guy you all want to go to bat for? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, RLLD said: Understood. What if in the next 5 years society evolved, and it did so to the point where a position you held was no longer acceptable or perhaps tolerated? What if, under this evolved state of society, it was deemed that YOU were no longer acceptable based on something you wrote or said? And due to this you were removed from your job, relegated to some lesser way of making a living? Is that just? There are people in our government today who believe pet ownership is a form of slavery. If in 50-100 years this becomes fact people who owned a pet in the past can be canceled.Meat eaters can be cancelled too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted October 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: There are people in our government today who believe pet ownership is a form of slavery. If in 50-100 years this becomes fact people who owned a pet in the past can be canceled.Meat eaters can be cancelled too. That's incredibly raciss to Asians, as they both own AND eat pets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,640 Posted October 14, 2021 18 hours ago, MDC said: Some of you guys have trouble differentiating between being “cancelled” and getting rightfully shiitcanned for saying stupid things in writing while on the job. Yeah, looking at the timing and the format and the environment, if I had written the same things in my corporate environment back then I would have been canned. immediately. Really is kind of an indictment on the league for not doing anything. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted October 14, 2021 They should go back a decade or more for each franchise and see what they find. Open up a league qide investigation on these types of bad words. Why not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted October 14, 2021 36 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: They should go back a decade or more for each franchise and see what they find. Open up a league qide investigation on these types of bad words. Why not? Might be some interesting emails regarding the Rooney Rule. Now that would be a major sh1tstorm for Roger and the NFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,042 Posted October 14, 2021 You can't release the emails because they probably talk about player evaluations and salary negotiations in there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites