shorepatrol 1,870 Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: Exactly. Sean Moon would be one to just stand there and watch it happen. Wait for the police who never arrive. It is people like him who I don't want to be neighbors with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 17, 2021 Geez some of you people need to get a clue. Or take a logic class. 24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Rittenhouse had all the business in the world to be there. In our country we have freedom of movement in public. We can even, gasp, go across state lines as we wish. He had the right to be there, and the right to defend himself if he is attacked. What country are you from? Is the constitution the law of the land or a suggestion to you? This has nothing to do with freedom of movement. Get a clue 23 minutes ago, Gladiators said: It's this mentality that allows women to be raped on a train while people stand around and do nothing. A society of focking pusssies. What a dumb connection to make. 23 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: So if I see someone set a school on fire would it be ok with you if I tried to stop them or put it out? Or is it none of my business? Vigilante. Please. He ran away from his attackers. That’s some real Charles Bronson shite. You alert the authorities. And you keep an eye on things so you can give accurate descriptions. You don't pick up an AR-15 and decide to solve the problem. Again- what a dumb equivalence you are making. 17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He isn’t a pedophile. But it doesn’t seem he’s an anti pedophile. Of course I'm anti-pedophile. I'm just saying- you would not have known a person was a pedophile until much later. Rittenhouse didn't know the guy was a pedophile. Is he psychic? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Exactly. I hear a monster like this Rosenbaum has properly been exterminated and I just thank our collective good fortune that he won’t be raping anymore little boys and destroying their lives. I wonder what value Sean puts on his life? Does he think this guy was finished raping kids because he was successfully rehabilitated and let out of prison? Does he think he only raped the five kids he was convicted for raping? Guarantee it was more than five. Yeah, concern yourself with this piece of human garbage. A real man wouldn’t. This is about as dumb as any one person could be. You have to be a complete dolt to try and make these logical jumps. I hope you and jerryskids can whine and cry again when I bring up arguing in good faith. I'm not upset the guy is dead. If the dude was a rapist of course he deserves severe punishment for doing something so terrible. Saying "Hey maybe this kid should not be celebrated for being in the wrong place with an AR-15" is not the same as saying "Yay pedos." You guys are stupid if you think it is. Full stop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted November 17, 2021 Sean Moon would start up his Prius back out of his driveway. See 2 guys in ski masks breaking into his neighbors house who is gone on vacation...and just put his head down and turn Lady Gaga up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, Sean Mooney said: This is about as dumb as any one person could be. You have to be a complete dolt to try and make these logical jumps. I hope you and jerryskids can whine and cry again when I bring up arguing in good faith. I'm not upset the guy is dead. If the dude was a rapist of course he deserves severe punishment for doing something so terrible. Saying "Hey maybe this kid should not be celebrated for being in the wrong place with an AR-15" is not the same as saying "Yay pedos." You guys are stupid if you think it is. Full stop "Full stop" Lol now I know they type of dude we are dealing with. Hilarious. Kyle should have called authorities and notified thrm that thr city was on fire. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,429 Posted November 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Geez some of you people need to get a clue. Or take a logic class. This has nothing to do with freedom of movement. Get a clue What a dumb connection to make. You alert the authorities. And you keep an eye on things so you can give accurate descriptions. You don't pick up an AR-15 and decide to solve the problem. Again- what a dumb equivalence you are making. Of course I'm anti-pedophile. I'm just saying- you would not have known a person was a pedophile until much later. Rittenhouse didn't know the guy was a pedophile. Is he psychic? He knew he was a lunatic trying to kill him. Rosenbaum said he was going to. The pedophile aspect is the after action info that leads me to say “oh, I DGAF he’s dead. Good” . And using your logic, if the dumpster on fire had belonged to Rittenhouse he would have been justified in trying to put it out? And what ensued would have been ok? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted November 17, 2021 We already saw an experiment of what happens in these scenarios. Filthadelphia home of scumbag liberals can't even be bothered to stop a girl getting raped on a train. There are many of them and they cannot be bothered rather watch and take pictures. Just 10s of them can't try to stop 1 guy from raping a woman. Arizona conservative is in a convenience store when a couple guys come in to rob the place at gun point. He tackles thr guy and stops it right then and there. Probably some little old lady behind the counter. Ill take a conservative in my neighborhood 10 time out if 10. Proof is in the pudding. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: We already saw an experiment of what happens in these scenarios. Filthadelphia home of scumbag liberals can't even be bothered to stop a girl getting raped on a train. There are many of them and they cannot be bothered rather watch and take pictures. Just 10s of them can't try to stop 1 guy from raping a woman. Arizona conservative is in a convenience store when a couple guys come in to rob the place at gun point. He tackles thr guy and stops it right then and there. Probably some little old lady behind the counter. Ill take a conservative in my neighborhood 10 time out if 10. Proof is in the pudding. ^^^^^^^This. So very this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted November 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Exactly. Sean Moon would be one to just stand there and watch it happen. Wait for the police who never arrive. It is people like him who I don't want to be neighbors with. You can easily identify those kind of neighbors as they proudly virtue signal with their "In this house we believe..." yard signs. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted November 17, 2021 I was up too late last night wainting for the verdict that never did come in. I'm too tired to do that a second time. Hopefully I wake up to finding Kyle is aquitte but I'm thinking its a hung jury. How do you spend a whole day deliberating and thing it'll congel on day two? If the overwhelming evidence didn't already convince people, I'd likely have run out of persuasive things to say in an hour or two. For myself, I'd go to the mat for Kyle, not willing to compromise one inch off of full aquital on all charges just to play nice in order to meet in the middle, get it done and over with. Fock that, Full aquital with not one day in prison or hung jury. The hangup is probably some Rusty type on the jury too, in which case there's simply going to be no way to square the circle. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted November 17, 2021 I will mind my own business next time a woman is on the side of the road with a flat tire thanks Mooney keeps my hands clean Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,672 Posted November 17, 2021 50 minutes ago, jonmx said: In your book you see someone dying you just let them die because you are not a doctor. Modern liberalism is a sickness which is trying to suck out the last bit of compassion, decency and humanity from our society. He needs to make this situation more complex in order to find guilt. I get it. If he showed up looking for a fight, he contributed to the situation. But all the evidence points otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,797 Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Gladiators said: It's this mentality that allows women to be raped on a train while people stand around and do nothing. A society of focking pusssies. Actually a better analogy is if a woman is raped on a train, and afterward I tried to help her, then the rapist attacked me and I shot him in defense, and @Sean Mooneycalls it “vigilante justice” and is upset I didn’t stay home. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, jerryskids said: Actually a better analogy is if a woman is raped on a train, and afterward I tried to help her, then the rapist attacked me and I shot him in defense, and @Sean Mooneycalls it “vigilante justice” and is upset I didn’t stay home. LOL pretty much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,292 Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, jerryskids said: Actually a better analogy is if a woman is raped on a train, and afterward I tried to help her, then the rapist attacked me and I shot him in defense, and @Sean Mooneycalls it “vigilante justice” and is upset I didn’t stay home. What if the rape occurs on an Amtrak train and it crosses state lines? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,987 Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Actually a better analogy is if a woman is raped on a train, and afterward I tried to help her, then the rapist attacked me and I shot him in defense, and @Sean Mooneycalls it “vigilante justice” and is upset I didn’t stay home. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,429 Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, DonS said: What if the rape occurs on an Amtrak train and it crosses state lines? And what if you went from the next car over when you heard the rape? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,797 Posted November 17, 2021 Imagine seeing everything that happened that night and thinking that the “bad” part of it was that a guy went where he shouldn’t have, the animals got riled up and of course couldn’t control themselves because animals gonna animal so they went after him, and the bad guy shot them. It is unreasonable to expect rational behavioral of animals. Same thing as the summer of love in the NW. Further imagine that if you agree with the scenario above yet rational people don’t convict the bad guy, your like-minded thinkers are planning to do more looting, rioting, and burning. Now I know what you are thinking: are they animals, or are they finely-tuned riot planners? Great question, there are elements of both. Liberal elite anarchists, folks funding Antifa, recruit the animals to go animal. Suicidal, drug addicted, homeless, abused as children… broken people who are unfortunately perfect dupes for this cult. This is your side. Own it. Wear it proudly. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, listen2me 23 said: Sean Moon would start up his Prius back out of his driveway. See 2 guys in ski masks breaking into his neighbors house who is gone on vacation...and just put his head down and turn Lady Gaga up. Absolute zero chance I would ever drive a Prius. But hey- you've got your dumb narrative to continue on about pretending like you are some tough guy. 22 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Imagine seeing everything that happened that night and thinking that the “bad” part of it was that a guy went where he shouldn’t have, the animals got riled up and of course couldn’t control themselves because animals gonna animal so they went after him, and the bad guy shot them. It is unreasonable to expect rational behavioral of animals. Same thing as the summer of love in the NW. Further imagine that if you agree with the scenario above yet rational people don’t convict the bad guy, your like-minded thinkers are planning to do more looting, rioting, and burning. Now I know what you are thinking: are they animals, or are they finely-tuned riot planners? Great question, there are elements of both. Liberal elite anarchists, folks funding Antifa, recruit the animals to go animal. Suicidal, drug addicted, homeless, abused as children… broken people who are unfortunately perfect dupes for this cult. This is your side. Own it. Wear it proudly. Imagine being this ##### empty as a person that you have to create scenarios that are absolutely fabrications or complete misrepresentations of what people believe and using that to argue against solely to win an Internet argument. Many of you guys are dumb. Vigilante justice is different than the scenarios you all are describing but it doesn't surprise me considering so many here have proven time and again they don't know basic definitions of words let alone a complex concept. And again- if roles were reversed here and a liberal kid shot a conservative person (for the same reason) I guarantee people would not be here defending it. I guarantee I would still be saying maybe we shouldn't be championing 17 year old kids with AR-15s and we should control praising vigilante justice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted November 17, 2021 And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its azz when it hopped. You have already stated how you view things. Hide and call police. We are just responding to your post. There is no fabrication here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,429 Posted November 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Absolute zero chance I would ever drive a Prius. But hey- you've got your dumb narrative to continue on about pretending like you are some tough guy. Imagine being this ##### empty as a person that you have to create scenarios that are absolutely fabrications or complete misrepresentations of what people believe and using that to argue against solely to win an Internet argument. Many of you guys are dumb. Vigilante justice is different than the scenarios you all are describing but it doesn't surprise me considering so many here have proven time and again they don't know basic definitions of words let alone a complex concept. And again- if roles were reversed here and a liberal kid shot a conservative person (for whatever reason) I guarantee people would not be here defending it. I guarantee I would still be saying maybe we shouldn't be championing 17 year old kids with AR-15s and we should control praising vigilante justice. Do you know of any scenario that you have laid out where a liberal kid shot a conservative person in self defense? The reason would matter, that’s the whole point here. If Rittenhouse shot those guys and he wasn’t defending himself then the outlook would absolutely be different, logic guy. Sheez. Find one and let us know. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Do you know of any scenario that you have laid out where a liberal kid shot a conservative person in self defense? The reason would matter, that’s the whole point here. If Rittenhouse shot those guys and he wasn’t defending himself then the outlook would absolutely be different, logic guy. Sheez. Find one and let us know. Turn the complete scenario around I said- do you not know how to read? No wonder you hate schools so much. Again- a liberal person person shooting a conservative person in the same manner for the same reason you would not be celebrating. Or hell a black guy shooting a white guy for the same reason would not be celebrated by you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,429 Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Turn the complete scenario around I said- do you not know how to read? No wonder you hate schools so much. Again- a liberal person person shooting a conservative person in the same manner for the same reason you would not be celebrating. Or hell a black guy shooting a white guy for the same reason would not be celebrated by you. You said the reason doesn’t matter. Look above. Sheez. “Whatever reason”. Just because public schools suck doesn’t mean I don’t like schools. I don’t like those schools. Logic guy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You said the reason doesn’t matter. Look above. Sheez. I had adjusted it- and you commented on my post well after I adjusted it. Look above. Sheez Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted November 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: And again- if roles were reversed here and a liberal kid shot a conservative person (for whatever reason) I guarantee people would not be here defending it. I guarantee I would still be saying maybe we shouldn't be championing 17 year old kids with AR-15s and we should control praising vigilante justice. I understand how you came to the conclusion that the pedo/criminal/rioter/arsonists are Liberal. But what makes you think Kyle is a conservative? He isn't even old enough to vote. Is it because he knows how to shoot a gun? Fabricate to try and win an internet argument much? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted November 17, 2021 17 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Absolute zero chance I would ever drive a Prius. But hey- you've got your dumb narrative to continue on about pretending like you are some tough guy. Imagine being this ##### empty as a person that you have to create scenarios that are absolutely fabrications or complete misrepresentations of what people believe and using that to argue against solely to win an Internet argument. Many of you guys are dumb. Vigilante justice is different than the scenarios you all are describing but it doesn't surprise me considering so many here have proven time and again they don't know basic definitions of words let alone a complex concept. And again- if roles were reversed here and a liberal kid shot a conservative person (for the same reason) I guarantee people would not be here defending it. I guarantee I would still be saying maybe we shouldn't be championing 17 year old kids with AR-15s and we should control praising vigilante justice. When the government abandons us. When the government announces and pushes defund the police. When the government prevents the police and others from stopping rioters. When the government defends violence and punishes the innocent. Yes. You WILL get vigilantes. The answer is simple, when the criminals come out, and burn or loot....regardless of skin color, religion, gender, or annnnnyyyyyyyything else.....they should be engaged by the trained professionals and stopped. Period. I do not care WHY they are mad. If the government continues this trend toward the allowance of violence where it serves some political interest, you WILL have vigilantes. And rightfully so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,429 Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: I adjusted it. Look above. Sheez Well then, if a black/ liberal guy killed a white/conservative guy, or anyone for that matter, who was trying to kill him I would vote to acquit. I for damn sure wouldn’t be wondering what he was doing on a public street. It would be irrelevant. He’s allowed to be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: I understand how you came to the conclusion that the pedo/criminal/rioter/arsonists are Liberal. But what make you think Kyle is a conservative? Ge isn't even okd enough to vote. Is it because he knows how to shoot a gun? Fabricate to try and win an internet argument much? People here are more conservative so I used that as an example and did not specify that I thought Rittenhouse was a conservative. yes he can't vote he's only 17. Also why I'm not cool with championing him as a person i want carrying AR-15s around and playing cop or jury. Lots of conservatives and liberals know how to shoot guns. Shooting a gun does not indicate political leaning per se. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,545 Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, jerryskids said: Actually a better analogy is if a woman is raped on a train, and afterward I tried to help her, then the rapist attacked me and I shot him in defense, and @Sean Mooneycalls it “vigilante justice” and is upset I didn’t stay home. 1 hour ago, Voltaire said: LOL pretty much. 1 hour ago, DonS said: What if the rape occurs on an Amtrak train and it crosses state lines? It's funny because it's true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: When the government abandons us. When the government announces and pushes defund the police. When the government prevents the police and others from stopping rioters. When the government defends violence and punishes the innocent. Yes. You WILL get vigilantes. The answer is simple, when the criminals come out, and burn or loot....regardless of skin color, religion, gender, or annnnnyyyyyyyything else.....they should be engaged by the trained professionals and stopped. Period. I do not care WHY they are mad. If the government continues this trend toward the allowance of violence where it serves some political interest, you WILL have vigilantes. And rightfully so. Defund the police is never ever going to happen. That is a red herring constantly thrown out there. The government isn't abandoning us and people aren't buying AR-15s in order to protect against government leaving. Trained professionals are cops. A 17 year old kid is just that- a kid. 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Well then, if a black/ liberal guy killed a white/conservative guy, or anyone for that matter, who was trying to kill him I would vote to acquit. I for damn sure wouldn’t be wondering what he was doing on a public street. It would be irrelevant. He’s allowed to be there. The issue is not being on a public street. You know that. C'mon man. Stop trying to conflate things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Defund the police is never ever going to happen. That is a red herring constantly thrown out there. The government isn't abandoning us and people aren't buying AR-15s in order to protect against government leaving. This is a lie. Link If you want to discuss the point then lets discuss it. But this tactic of lying to say it will never happen, never had happened, or impugn the facts is a show stopper. If the police do not step up when they are needed, if the government messaging as a parallel action is to threaten the police with defunding, and then allow the burning and looting and rioting, you WILL get vigilantes. This is a truth we have to acknowledge. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 1,491 Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Defund the police is never ever going to happen. That is a red herring constantly thrown out there. The government isn't abandoning us and people aren't buying AR-15s in order to protect against government leaving. Trained professionals are cops. A 17 year old kid is just that- a kid. The issue is not being on a public street. You know that. C'mon man. Stop trying to conflate things So....autonomous zones don't count? There is one in Seattle that's allowed to continue. The picture on this article is literally a guy standing there with a gun. https://arhsnewspaper.com/9532/showcase/what-are-autonomous-zones-and-will-they-continue-to-appear-in-2021/ (SEATTLE, WA – JUNE 15: A man walks by the Conversation Cafe while carrying a firearm in the police-free zone known as the Capitol Hill Organized Protest (CHOP) on June 15, 2020 in Seattle, Washington. The area consists of the blocks surrounding the Seattle Police Departments East Precinct, which was vacated after violent clashes with Black Lives Matter protesters in the wake of George Floyd’s death.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,873 Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, RLLD said: This is a lie. Link If you want to discuss the point then lets discuss it. But this tactic of lying to say it will never happen, never had happened, or impugn the facts is a show stopper. If the police do not step up when they are needed, if the government messaging as a parallel action is to threaten the police with defunding, and then allow the burning and looting and rioting, you WILL get vigilantes. This is a truth we have to acknowledge. Beat me to it. What rock do you have to love under to not realize some agrncies have been defunded. And some agencies already when back on that lunatic lefty idea because it failed from the jump. I won't call him a liar. It is hard to imagine he didn't know this however. I will just call him clueless. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,545 Posted November 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, RLLD said: When the government abandons us. When the government announces and pushes defund the police. When the government prevents the police and others from stopping rioters. When the government defends violence and punishes the innocent. Yes. You WILL get vigilantes. The answer is simple, when the criminals come out, and burn or loot....regardless of skin color, religion, gender, or annnnnyyyyyyyything else.....they should be engaged by the trained professionals and stopped. Period. I do not care WHY they are mad. If the government continues this trend toward the allowance of violence where it serves some political interest, you WILL have vigilantes. And rightfully so. NAILED IT! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: Beat me to it. What rock do you have to love under to not realize some agrncies have been defunded. And some agencies already when back on that lunatic lefty idea because it failed from the jump. I won't call him a liar. It is hard to imagine he didn't know this however. I will just call him clueless. I do not know if he is a liar or not, I just know a lie when I see one, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, RLLD said: This is a lie. Link If you want to discuss the point then lets discuss it. But this tactic of lying to say it will never happen, never had happened, or impugn the facts is a show stopper. If the police do not step up when they are needed, if the government messaging as a parallel action is to threaten the police with defunding, and then allow the burning and looting and rioting, you WILL get vigilantes. This is a truth we have to acknowledge. Your article undercuts what you are arguing. Hilarious you don't realize that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,545 Posted November 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Defund the police is never ever going to happen. That is a red herring constantly thrown out there. The government isn't abandoning us and people aren't buying AR-15s in order to protect against government leaving. So you're saying that the politicians who are championing the "Defund the Police" mantra are lying? How come the media isn't going apesh!t over that? How come they're not being banned from social media for disinformation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,429 Posted November 17, 2021 AOC- “Defund the police means defund the police”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: AOC- “Defund the police means defund the police”. AOC is a dummy. I wouldn't believe anything she says. Additionally, all studies of the defund the police movement show it isn't black people who support it primarily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites