Ukraine - Doomsday

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

Dumbass Russians run over their own anti-tank mine.

 

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Zzzzzzzzz

still nothing of significance in this Ukie counteroffensive.  Front lines have barely moved.  Ukraine's goal is to cut off the Crimea from the rest of Russia but nothing has happened.  Were about a month in now.

[HellToupee 1,583]

Colonel Macgregor is a real mensch

 

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Q:  how do we determine the front has moved?

A:  there are two ways this is done.  1.  both Ukraine and Russia announce the same piece of land has changed hands.  2.  video is released that shows one of them bombing a piece of land that had been assumed to be under their control.   they cant be attacking their own land, so it must have changed hands.

 

[GobbleDog 976]

2 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

Q:  how do we determine the front has moved?

Armies claim territory, reporters verify.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

3 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

Q:  how do we determine the front has moved?

A:  there are two ways this is done.  1.  both Ukraine and Russia announce the same piece of land has changed hands.  2.  video is released that shows one of them bombing a piece of land that had been assumed to be under their control.   they cant be attacking their own land, so it must have changed hands.

 

It's not about progress right now. It's probing and decoy maneuvers. Have some patience, bro.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

2 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

Armies claim territory, reporters verify.

reporters are not neutral by any means and lie a lot.  the methods i describe is how you do it.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

It's not about progress right now. It's probing and decoy maneuvers. Have some patience, bro.

there is a real risk that if Ukraine cannot show progress soon, NATO countries will stop throwing money at it.  or the US voters will turn against supporting it more.  So patience really isn't an option.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

2 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

there is a real risk that if Ukraine cannot show progress soon, NATO countries will stop throwing money at it.  or the US voters will turn against supporting it more.  So patience really isn't an option.

No, you can bet that whatever the strategies Ukraine is using here have plenty of western intel and guidance. Must you look for a castrophe in everything. Give it some time, man. Russians have created some pretty insane defensive networks, and Urkaine isn't going to just rush in there. Russia isn't going to win this. I giggle at what one A10 Warthog would do to their defenses just focking around.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

I really want a deal for peace. After what Biden and the left have done to our military I don’t think it is ready for actual large scale  combat. Leftards don’t realize that it’s not all about special forces when it’s a prolonged war.  It becomes about the rank and file. 

[League Champion 1,896]

Ukraine vs Russia is like Fetterman and Biden in a debate over ice cream.

 

 

[Mike Hunt 261]

Looks like this is just going to be a quagmire.

Ukraine is fighting for its homeland so they will never give up.  Russia will keep throwing bodies into the meat grinder. 

Right now not even sure what a victory would be for Russia as they will never be able to control the entire population.  It could turn into a terrorist state on constant bombings and attacks against the occupiers.

[nobody 2,557]

Seems pretty obvious to me that Russia will get all of the Donbass.  People are just dying for no reason in the meantime.

Well I guess Ukraine will need to grow tired of burying people and some security guarantees before they cede that territory.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

29 minutes ago, nobody said:

Seems pretty obvious to me that Russia will get all of the Donbass.  People are just dying for no reason in the meantime.

Well I guess Ukraine will need to grow tired of burying people and some security guarantees before they cede that territory.

Isn't that area largely pro-Russian anyway? I wish Ukraine would just let go of the Donbass and Crimea in exchage for it joining NATA and reparations.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

On 6/28/2023 at 12:53 PM, Pimpadeaux said:

I still think Ukraine is engaged in probing and decoy maneuvers, with the real offensive yet to come. 

Noted military tactician, Rusty. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

rumor is that the famed 92nd mechanized brigade of Ukraine just got disbanded. they were once very highly acclaimed, but most of the elite members are dead and they had to fill the ranks with old men to keep it going.  at some point, rumors are they revolted against Ukraine and were put down.  some members got reassigned but the unit is gone.  itll be interesting to see the truth come out to confirm / deny any of this in the weeks or months ahead but its being kept under wraps for now.

the only recent photos i found of the 92nd were of old, balding men in their 40s or 50s. note that Ukraine conscription is from 18-60 and many of the youth fled in february 2022 when 25% of the ukraine population went overseas instead of fighting russia.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

On 7/1/2023 at 9:38 AM, Hardcore troubadour said:

Noted military tactician, Rusty. 

Unlike you, I actually research and read things and not rely on extremist bloggers for information.

[KSB2424 3,148]

We’re closing in on $100,000,000,000.00 of U.S. aid sent to Ukraine.  That’s 100 Billion. Meanwhile Zelensky has time to meet with Greta Thunberg to talk about how the war is impacting Climate Change.  
 

 

[Gepetto 1,286]

On 7/1/2023 at 9:26 AM, Pimpadeaux said:

Isn't that area largely pro-Russian anyway? I wish Ukraine would just let go of the Donbass and Crimea in exchage for it joining NATA and reparations.

Ukraine could have prevented the entire war and 100,000s dead and loss of $billions had they just ceded those to Russia before the war.

[Gepetto 1,286]

2 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

We’re closing in on $100,000,000,000.00 of U.S. aid sent to Ukraine.  That’s 100 Billion. Meanwhile Zelensky has time to meet with Greta Thunberg to talk about how the war is impacting Climate Change.  
 

 

Oh, great another western left ideology that doesn't exist (climate change) and is all about money.  At this point, I'm rooting for Russia.

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

5 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Unlike you, I actually research and read things and not rely on extremist bloggers for information.

You read propaganda, Jimmy Olsen 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You read propaganda, Jimmy Olsen 

You were the one who mocked me when I questioned why they didn't use huge aircraft to transport tanks to Ukraine, and then I posted a picture of a tank being offloaded from a huge aircraft, Gen. Schwarzkopf. You probably think Deep State photoshopped the image to make everyone think that aircraft were transporting tanks to Eastern Europe.

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

6 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

You were the one who mocked me when I questioned why they didn't use huge aircraft to transport tanks to Ukraine, and then I posted a picture of a tank being offloaded from a huge aircraft, Gen. Schwarzkopf. You probably think Deep State photoshopped the image to make everyone think that aircraft were transporting tanks to Eastern Europe.

IT'S A CONSPIRACY!

No I wasn’t. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No I wasn’t. 

Yes you did!

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

18 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No I wasn’t. 

This does a good job explaining why the offensive has progressed slowly - mines and heavy Russian defenses. It also explains - like I said - that the main body of the offensive isn't in the game yet. You won't read it, of course.

http://Ukraine’s counteroffensive hasn’t met expectations. Here’s why progress has been slow https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/04/europe/ukraine-counteroffensive-slow-progress-intl

[League Champion 1,896]

19 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

You were the one who mocked me when I questioned why they didn't use huge aircraft to transport tanks to Ukraine, and then I posted a picture of a tank being offloaded from a huge aircraft, 

This is true. We are providing logistical support via mainly the Globemaster (C17) but getting equipment/tanks from there to the front lines is the real problem. Both Russia and Ukraine can't get anything to the front, that's why it's moving very slowly. It's literally close range, hand to hand combat at this point. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

On 7/3/2023 at 11:34 AM, League Champion said:

 

 

Hell, back in 2014, Obama / Biden was supporting the coup which outright wore nazi symbols on their helmets.

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

3 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

This does a good job explaining why the offensive has progressed slowly - mines and heavy Russian defenses. It also explains - like I said - that the main body of the offensive isn't in the game yet. You won't read it, of course.

http://Ukraine’s counteroffensive hasn’t met expectations. Here’s why progress has been slow https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/04/europe/ukraine-counteroffensive-slow-progress-intl

Yeah and if it was 2003 and Bush was saying we need more time to find WMDs, youd be giving no such time.

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[seafoam1 2,798]

On 7/4/2023 at 4:04 PM, JustinCharge said:

 

Hell, back in 2014, Obama / Biden was supporting the coup which outright wore nazi symbols on their helmets.

 

pimpledoosh cheerleads them on. 

[League Champion 1,896]

On 7/4/2023 at 4:04 PM, JustinCharge said:

 

Hell, back in 2014, Obama / Biden was supporting the coup which outright wore nazi symbols on their helmets.

 

 

All fact, the dumb arse Liberals have no idea, they just wave their cute little Ukraine flags with no regard 

[seafoam1 2,798]

13 minutes ago, League Champion said:

 

All fact, the dumb arse Liberals have no idea, they just wave their cute little Ukraine flags with no regard 

So true. It's sick.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

Are they still pretending that Russia is the threat, and not China? 

[nobody 2,557]

I thought cluster bombs were banned.  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/us-expected-send-controversial-cluster-munitions-ukraine-fight/story%3fid=100814142

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

I thought cluster bombs were banned.  

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/us-expected-send-controversial-cluster-munitions-ukraine-fight/story%3fid=100814142

The United States didn't sign, and neither did Russia, if I'm not mistaken. A bunch of other nations signed.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-risks-degraded-troops-amid-lack-combat-ready-reserves-isw-1811467

Russia lacking reserves as Ukraine gaining ground.

[wiffleball 4,788]

13 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The United States didn't sign, and neither did Russia, if I'm not mistaken. A bunch of other nations signed.

This is where we really lose moral high ground. This and landmines. We try to tell the whole world what they can and cannot use and do and then we turn around and violate some of the most basic fundamental war crime issues.

[HellToupee 1,583]