Ukraine - Doomsday

[Gepetto 1,328]

War, what is it good for? Absolutely nothin'!

 

[Gepetto 1,328]

 

[seafoam1 2,867]

56 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

He forgot a comma where when he re-wrote it to you in place of his missing commas he wrote DRAMATIC PAUSE.  Reread the sentence with the Pause and then it changes the meaning of what he intended to say, so you should once understanding this now after rereading with a pause, let this go.

Fock off.

[Gepetto 1,328]

6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Fock off.

dude, fock you, you really are the biggest dousche here; you just proved it with that response. I hate you.

[seafoam1 2,867]

Just now, Gepetto said:

dude, fock you, you really are the biggest dousche here; you just proved it with that response. I hate you.

Good. Be all tied up with that for the rest of your life. I don't even know who you are. 

[thegeneral 3,065]

1 hour ago, Gepetto said:

He forgot a comma where when he re-wrote it to you in place of his missing commas he wrote DRAMATIC PAUSE.  Reread the sentence with the Pause and then it changes the meaning of what he intended to say, so you should once understanding this now after rereading with a pause, let this go.

He’s having a case of the Mondays. 

[League Champion 1,896]

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

It’s doubtful Ukraine can even employ the cluster bombs at this point. They have no air power. It’s a provocative measure to get Russia to do something. Also desperation.  

[nobody 2,620]

A read a story that said there's a howitzer version of the cluster bombs

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

5 minutes ago, nobody said:

A read a story that said there's a howitzer version of the cluster bombs

Never heard of that but I guess so. It’s still going to take some training and getting the delivery system there. I stand by my thought that this is a provocative measure. They want Putin to do something. And he might.  He’s not a good guy. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s doubtful Ukraine can even employ the cluster bombs at this point. They have no air power. It’s a provocative measure to get Russia to do something. Also desperation.  

OMG, you fancy yourself as some military expert and mock others whom you think don't know what they're talking about, and yet you don't know that these are cluster munitions fired as artillery rounds from Howitzers, not from "air power," meaning aircraft, although I suppose artillery could be considered air power because the shells fly through the air. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66134663

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Officials are planning to send artillery shells to Ukraine, with each containing 88 separate bomblets, according to US media reports. They would be fired from Howitzer artillery weapons already deployed by the Ukrainian army.

Add this to your idiocy regarding aircraft transporting tanks. lol.

[seafoam1 2,867]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

OMG, you fancy yourself as some military expert and mock others whom you think don't know what they're talking about, and yet you don't know that these are cluster munitions fired as artillery rounds from Howitzers, not from "air power," meaning aircraft, although I suppose artillery could be considered air power because the shells fly through the air. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66134663

Add this to your idiocy regarding aircraft transporting thanks. lol.

Ukraine is getting their ass kicked. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

2 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

OMG, you fancy yourself as some military expert and mock others whom you think don't know what they're talking about, and yet you don't know that these are cluster munitions fired as artillery rounds from Howitzers, not from "air power," meaning aircraft, although I suppose artillery could be considered air power because the shells fly through the air. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66134663

Add this to your idiocy regarding aircraft transporting tanks. lol.

How’s the vacation going? It Saturday night. Having fun? 

[seafoam1 2,867]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How’s the vacation going? It Saturday night. Having fun? 

Seriously. Between him and mdcack, their "vacations" are flying somewhere to get online 24x7. It would be funny if they are actually paying for hotel wifi. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

9 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s doubtful Ukraine can even employ the cluster bombs at this point. They have no air power. It’s a provocative measure to get Russia to do something. Also desperation.  

 

They'll use off the shelf drones to deploy individual smaller detached bomblets a few at a time. The original artillery casing can be reset with more traditional ordinance.

The effectiveness is based on wounding the enemy, not killing them. Wounding a soldier badly is a massive resource drain on any military force. Killing someone is logistically more simple. You put them in a bag and you ship them home. Or you bury them there. 

Failure to care for your wounded impacts morale, which impacts unit cohesion, basic combined arms coordination and combat effectiveness. 

The individual "bomblets" will be useful for taking out vehicles. Also sowing terror behind enemy lines where they are entrenched. It's very difficult to defend against small off the shelf type drones with limited payload packages. 

Using traditional artillery makes those big guns a target. 

There is a MASSIVE pipeline of off the shelf drones entering Ukraine from other countries. As you move into more hardened areas, the impact of the bomblets becomes exponential. A bomblet hitting concrete and the ensuing splash damage is more devastating than one hitting someone in the open field. 

[seafoam1 2,867]

7 minutes ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

They'll use off the shelf drones to deploy individual smaller detached bomblets a few at a time. The original artillery casing can be reset with more traditional ordinance.

The effectiveness is based on wounding the enemy, not killing them. Wounding a soldier badly is a massive resource drain on any military force. Killing someone is logistically more simple. You put them in a bag and you ship them home. Or you bury them there. 

Failure to care for your wounded impacts morale, which impacts unit cohesion, basic combined arms coordination and combat effectiveness. 

The individual "bomblets" will be useful for taking out vehicles. Also sowing terror behind enemy lines where they are entrenched. It's very difficult to defend against small off the shelf type drones with limited payload packages. 

Using traditional artillery makes those big guns a target. 

There is a MASSIVE pipeline of off the shelf drones entering Ukraine from other countries. As you move into more hardened areas, the impact of the bomblets becomes exponential. A bomblet hitting concrete and the ensuing splash damage is more devastating than one hitting someone in the open field. 

Biden and the rest of the liberals now love bomblets. And will fund it at the expense of cleaning up homeless and crime and border control in this country. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

How’s the vacation going? It Saturday night. Having fun? 

I've been home from vacation since early afternoon. It was a great trip. Since then, I've gone back to house and yard chores and look forward to a relaxing tomorrow. You can read about my vacation in my other thread. I can take vacation anytime I want, thanks to my hard work and success. 

[seafoam1 2,867]

3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I've been home from vacation since early afternoon. It was a great trip. Since then, I've gone back to house and yard chores and look forward to a relaxing tomorrow. You can read about my vacation in my other thread. I can take vacation anytime I want, thanks to my hard work and success. 

And your paranoia. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

And your paranoia. 

Already obvious that we'll wake up tomorrow and see a sea of pathetic seafart posts spamming up the board as usual. Have a nice night, and godspeed on your pathetic self-validation efforts.

[seafoam1 2,867]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Already obvious that we'll wake up tomorrow and see a sea of pathetic seafart posts spamming up the board as usual. Have a nice night, and godspeed on your pathetic self-validation efforts.

As opposed to your ukraine cheerleader posts? 

And coming from a guy who just posted 24x7 while on vacation. 

[weepaws 3,159]

25 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

As opposed to your ukraine cheerleader posts? 

And coming from a guy who just posted 24x7 while on vacation. 

You post 24/7 while having sex with your right hand.  

Hypocrite.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

The Russian Grain Deal:

Russia allowed Ukraine to ship grain out of its Odessa port on the Black Sea to help feed hungry areas of the world during the Special Militfary Operation.  However, it is rumored that Ukraine has been using the grain deal to sneak in huge shipments of weapons and ammo.  Putin wants to break the deal but if he does, then he gets accused of being untrustworthy and starving the poor in the world. 

So yesterday we had Zelensky visit Edrogan in Turkey, the leader of the nation.  He received several Ukrainian prisoners (of the Azov battalion) and brought them home, when it had been agreed to keep them in Turkey at least until war's end.  The grain shipments go thru Turkish ports.  So what we are likely to see in July is Putin breaking the grain deal because the Azov prisoners got released as that provides him political cover, which means shipments of fresh weapons and ammo will dry up really fast for Ukraine.  

Its possible Edrogan released those prisoners to help Putin and Russia by giving him such cover.  Hard to say. 

Edrogan has been working with both Zelensky and Putin during the war, but wants to broker a peace deal.  shutting off the spigot of weapons and ammo to Ukraine may push Ukraine to sue for peace.  

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremlins-not-happy-zelensky-brought-azov-commanders-home-from-turkey

[nobody 2,620]

Justin, they can drive trucks full of weapons into Ukraine from Poland.

[Voltaire 5,276]

On 7/7/2023 at 7:39 PM, seafoam1 said:

Post the quotes of those who said Russia would take over Ukraine in two weeks.

 

<---- One of the guilty

Most all the pundits expected it and it made sense to me.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 hour ago, nobody said:

Justin, they can drive trucks full of weapons into Ukraine from Poland.

that doesnt need to be said.

what apparently needs to be said is you need polands permission to do that.  but if you smuggle stuff in via the black sea then thats an advantage.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

the media senses the unpopularity of biden shipping cluster bombs to ukraine so they are quietly altering the TEXT headlines to the "US" instead of biden.  if it proves too unpopular, theyll probably blame some middle management guy and fire him and anyone who blames biden for it will be silenced.

 

[nobody 2,620]

5 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

that doesnt need to be said.

what apparently needs to be said is you need polands permission to do that.  but if you smuggle stuff in via the black sea then thats an advantage.

Justin, Poland is all about making sure Ukraine has all the weapons they can get their hands on. 

[seafoam1 2,867]

3 minutes ago, nobody said:

Justin, Poland is all about making sure Ukraine has all the weapons they can get their hands on. 

Poland has a cause. The threat to them is understandable in their minds. The US though, focked up big time in the blind support given. Ukraine will fail which means the US fails. The liberals failed this country by being such willing participants in that war. Just stupid.  

[weepaws 3,159]

17 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Poland has a cause. The threat to them is understandable in their minds. The US though, focked up big time in the blind support given. Ukraine will fail which means the US fails. The liberals failed this country by being such willing participants in that war. Just stupid.  

Mr civil war general

[nobody 2,620]

43 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Poland has a cause. The threat to them is understandable in their minds. The US though, focked up big time in the blind support given. Ukraine will fail which means the US fails. The liberals failed this country by being such willing participants in that war. Just stupid.  

US already won.  Russia now knows they can't just do whatever they want.

Even the Biden family is going to win.  Even if Russia eventually gobbles up all of Ukraine, I'm sure the Biden's already got a lifetime of kickbacks for all the money they're sending over.

[League Champion 1,896]

Dumb & Dumber 

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,134]

19 minutes ago, nobody said:

US already won.  Russia now knows they can't just do whatever they want.

Even the Biden family is going to win.  Even if Russia eventually gobbles up all of Ukraine, I'm sure the Biden's already got a lifetime of kickbacks for all the money they're sending over.

I think you have that first line backwards. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Ukraine is running out of ammo.

They have no missiles and are resorting to repurposing old Soviet S200 missiles which are inadequate for ground targets but we will see what they can come up with.  It is amusing because when Russia started using old Soviet tanks, the MSM mocked them but now that Ukraine is forced to use old Soviet missiles, the MSM is quiet.  

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/ukraine-s200-ballistic-strikes-russia

Amid growing reported shortages of surface to surface missiles, the Ukrainian Military has repurposed Soviet S-200 surface to air missile systems to fire their primary munitions ballistically for strikes on Russian targets. The areas targeted include the Crimean Peninsula and the Rostov and Kaluga regions in the southern and western Russia. Four V-880 missiles were fired, with chief of the Russian Air Force General Staff Viktor Afzalov reporting two were neutralised using electronic warfare assets and another two kinetically intercepted. "There have been no casualties or destruction," the Defence Ministry reported. Gerasimov nevertheless instructed the Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces to identify storage units, training sites and launch positions of Ukrainian S-200 systems and similar assets. The S-200 formed the backbone of the USSR’s long range air defences into the 1990s, before being phased out in Russian in favour of longer ranged new variants of the S-300 and S-400 systems. With an engagement range of 300km against aircraft, the system could potentially reach targets well over 500km away if fired ballistically. 

Biden also stated that cluster bombs are a must because Ukraine is running out of ammo.

https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-sending-ukraine-cluster-bombs-running-out-ammo-2023-7

Biden said he decided to send Ukraine controversial cluster bombs because Kyiv is 'running out of ammunition'

Alia Shoaib  Jul 8, 2023, 6:11 AM PDT

President Joe Biden defended his decision to send Ukraine controversial and deadly cluster munitions, explaining it was because Kyiv was "running out of ammunition" after 500 days of war.

"It was a very difficult decision on my part. And by the way, I discussed this with our allies, I discussed this with our friends up on the Hill," Biden told CNN's Fareed Zakaria on Friday.

"The Ukrainians are running out of ammunition," he added.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

15 hours ago, League Champion said:

Dumb & Dumber 

 

 

The Biden Junta is a bunch of immoral cocaine-binging liars and scum.

[Gepetto 1,328]

Must read: https://www.yahoo.com/news/lied-afghanistan-lied-iraq-now-160001611.html  

This is a really good article against the US War machine. I'm surprised yahoo put a copy of it out on their own website.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

For the last month, Ukraine is just throwing meat at the front without proper air support and they are all suicide missions.  Ukrainian soldiers getting senslessly slaughtered for little to no gain, and what the hell are they fighting for anyway?  the right to mutilate children?  I'm surprised there havent been more Ukrainian soldier revolts.

[thegeneral 3,065]

Sweden approved to join NATO

NATO gets stronger. 

“The agreement was reached in the final hours before a NATO summit in the Lithuanian capital of Vilnius on Tuesday, paving the way for NATO to expand across more than a thousand miles of territory straddling the Baltic Sea, shifting the balance of power in Northern Europe and creating a potential chokepoint for Russian warships and aircraft in the region. It allows NATO to enter its annual summit having ironed out major differences, projecting unity in the face of Russian aggression.”

[HellToupee 1,650]

Freudian slip?

 

 

[seafoam1 2,867]

39 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Freudian slip?

 

 

"I'm apparently a little Rusty." 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,286]

Gotta love when “reporters” need to fix the narrative