Ukraine - Doomsday

[TimmySmith 2,782]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The Patriots were beating the Bears in the beginning of super bowl 20. 

Somehow the Bears won, but they only showed Patriot highlights.   

[Hardcore troubadour 15,520]

1 minute ago, TimmySmith said:

Somehow the Bears won, but they only showed Patriot highlights.   

Gold. 

[Baker Boy 1,704]

Biden announces $1.2B in additional Ukraine aid

The U.S. will provide additional artillery, coastal defenses and advanced rocket systems

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-1-billion-ukraine-aid

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

Biden announces $1.2B in additional Ukraine aid

The U.S. will provide additional artillery, coastal defenses and advanced rocket systems

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-1-billion-ukraine-aid

Great. Focking .

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Russians still losing.

 

[Brad GLuckman 519]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Russians still losing.

 

Everything I've read or listened to says Russia is winning. They have more and better artillery than Ukraine so they are basically just leveling entire cities before moving in.

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

Russians still losing.

 

Yeah it's obvious that ukraine is kicking ass by looking at the rubble that country has turned into, the women and children running into the arms of other men in other countries, the actual valuable land that Russia has taken control of....

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Just now, Brad GLuckman said:

Everything I've read or listened to says Russia is winning. They have more and better artillery than Ukraine so they are basically just leveling entire cities before moving in.

Exactly where are you getting your information? 

Also, I just posted something that talks about how Russia still is losing, so there goes your "everything."

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

Yeah it's obvious that ukraine is kicking ass by looking at the rubble that country has turned into, the women and children running into the arms of other men in other countries, the actual valuable land that Russia has taken control of....

Watch the video, chim chim. This guy is pretty good.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

15 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Exactly where are you getting your information? 

Also, I just posted something that talks about how Russia still is losing, so there goes your "everything."

There's a really good podcast from the telegraph about the war called "Ukraine: The Latest". It gives a very informational, non-biased report almost daily. These are journalists that support Ukraine but offer a sobering perspective of the war.

Your video does mention Russia's artillery advantage but it puts a very positive spin on some issues. I have also read about Russias problems with not being able to manufacture ammo and weapons due to sanctions, which your video mentions as well.

Ukraines biggest issue is going to be the waning support from the West, which there are already signs of. For Ukraine to win without giving up any territory they will need to be in this conflict for years. I think Ukraine is committed to that but I doubt the West is.

[wiffleball 4,790]

Boy, now that the Russians are getting their ass kicked, it sure seems like the Germans and the Pollocks and the fins and others are really just itching to go beat the s*** out of them.  

Have you seen the Germans newest tank? It's a f****** beast. Probably the best in the world right now. You got to think they want to kick those tires.

 

And the way that the fins and swedes reacted when Putin tried to tell them they cant join nato? F*** I don't think I've ever seen Putin back up that fast.

 

A lot of pent up historical anger in those parts.

 

Oh, and we just gave another billion dollars in military aid to ukraine.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 hour ago, Brad GLuckman said:

There's a really good podcast from the telegraph about the war called "Ukraine: The Latest". It gives a very informational, non-biased report almost daily. These are journalists that support Ukraine but offer a sobering perspective of the war.

Your video does mention Russia's artillery advantage but it puts a very positive spin on some issues. I have also read about Russias problems with not being able to manufacture ammo and weapons due to sanctions, which your video mentions as well.

Ukraines biggest issue is going to be the waning support from the West, which there are already signs of. For Ukraine to win without giving up any territory they will need to be in this conflict for years. I think Ukraine is committed to that but I doubt the West is.

Well stated, sir.

[Utilit99 4,099]

Ukraine is getting their ass kicked. 

And the US should stop the spending. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,520]

On 4/27/2022 at 7:34 PM, Pimpadeaux said:

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MCRFPUS2&f=M

Oil production in Biden's first year in office vs. Clownzo's first year in office. And the winner is:

January: Biden.

February: Biden.

March: Biden.

April: Biden.

May: Biden.

June: Biden.

July: Biden.

August: Biden.

September: Biden.

October: Biden.

November: Biden.

December: Biden.

As much as 25 percent higher production in Biden's first year compared to Clownzo's first year.

Pimpadeaux wins again - with simple facts.

2016	9,201	9,063	9,088	8,871	8,832	8,672	8,660	8,688	8,542	8,802	8,901	8,814
2017	8,873	9,109	9,168	9,103	9,184	9,110	9,246	9,245	9,516	9,659	10,077	9,979
2018	9,996	10,276	10,461	10,493	10,424	10,628	10,888	11,373	11,422	11,488	11,868	11,924
2019	11,848	11,653	11,899	12,125	12,141	12,179	11,896	12,475	12,572	12,771	12,966	12,910
2020	12,785	12,826	12,816	11,911	9,711	10,420	10,956	10,558	10,868	10,413	11,121	11,084
2021	11,056	9,773	11,160	11,230	11,334	11,288	11,330	11,206	10,851	11,526	11,769	11,587
2022	11,371

So if the oil companies are producing at record numbers, like you claim here, why is Biden telling them to up production? 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So if the oil companies are producing at record numbers, like you claim here, why is Biden telling them to up production? 

So prices will come down. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

16 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

So prices will come down. 

No. biden will keep spending. 

[Voltaire 5,341]

it's still attrition mode but my sense now is that Russia is winning. They've given up on swallowing the whole place but instead pulled back and seem to be content now with just stealing the oil and gas reserves in Dumbass and the waters around Crimea, in territory they already hold. We'll see if Ukraine has the ability kick them out.

[wiffleball 4,790]

I'm not sure Putin quite gets that there are a number of countries who just itching for a fight. Russia is like the bully who got exposed for being a p****. Now everybody who was ever bullied by him in the past wants a shot.

 

Like I said before, there's a lot of historical anger still built up. And while Russia was s******* the bed, Poland and Germany and most of Eastern Europe got better and better and stronger.

[Brad GLuckman 519]

3 hours ago, wiffleball said:

I'm not sure Putin quite gets that there are a number of countries who just itching for a fight. Russia is like the bully who got exposed for being a p****. Now everybody who was ever bullied by him in the past wants a shot.

 

Like I said before, there's a lot of historical anger still built up. And while Russia was s******* the bed, Poland and Germany and most of Eastern Europe got better and better and stronger.

Nobody wants a fight with a nuclear power, no matter how bad they look on the battlefield.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

3 hours ago, Brad GLuckman said:

Nobody wants a fight with a nuclear power, no matter how bad they look on the battlefield.

Don't respond to the Putin haters. Their hate has blinded them to reality. No European country is going to war with anyone. Itching.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,520]

7 hours ago, wiffleball said:

I'm not sure Putin quite gets that there are a number of countries who just itching for a fight. Russia is like the bully who got exposed for being a p****. Now everybody who was ever bullied by him in the past wants a shot.

 

Like I said before, there's a lot of historical anger still built up. And while Russia was s******* the bed, Poland and Germany and most of Eastern Europe got better and better and stronger.

Ukraine didn’t. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

7 hours ago, wiffleball said:

I'm not sure Putin quite gets that there are a number of countries who just itching for a fight. Russia is like the bully who got exposed for being a p****. Now everybody who was ever bullied by him in the past wants a shot.

 

Like I said before, there's a lot of historical anger still built up. And while Russia was s******* the bed, Poland and Germany and most of Eastern Europe got better and better and stronger.

The US isn't getting stronger, that's for sure. We're getting broker and broker. 

Fock, I hope Russian takes the whole country. Else biden will be sending tens of trillions to ukraine to build it back better. God knows he hasn't done it here. 

[Baker Boy 1,704]

14 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Exactly where are you getting your information? 

Also, I just posted something that talks about how Russia still is losing, so there goes your "everything."

I don’t care who is winning, all I know is America is the big loser. Wait until we start rebuilding the Ukraine.

I find it amazing that Putin can crash our economy by invading a small country. Russia did this under Obama and this didn’t happen.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,520]

The Ruble is the strongest currency in the world this year. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

6 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

I don’t care who is winning, all I know is America is the big loser. Wait until we start rebuilding the Ukraine.

I find it amazing that Putin can crash our economy by invading a small country. Russia did this under Obama and this didn’t happen.

Completely different circumstances. 

The stuff in 2014 was a turf war over small sections of the country, not the full-on invasion we've seen here. Russia went straight for the capital and tried to capture Zelenskyy. This has been a full-scale invasion.

Also, Ukraine isn't small in any way. Up until the invasion, it had the seventh-highest population in Europe, which has 48 countries. It has the second-highest land mass in Europe, second only to Russia. It's the size of Texas.

Our economy hasn't crashed. A bear market is on, and inflation is high, but COVID played a big role in that. The stock market plunged this week because of the giant federal rate hike, which was done to confront inflation.

Sanctions on Russia and Russia's response have jacked up economies worldwide.

Considering the shocking weakening of the Russian military thanks to Ukraine and outside equipment help, America is going to come out a big winner in the end. 

The Russian military has been exposed for the POS that it is, and I can't imagine how this will all play out back at home. 

[nobody 2,705]

7 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

I don’t care who is winning, all I know is America is the big loser. Wait until we start rebuilding the Ukraine.

I find it amazing that Putin can crash our economy by invading a small country. Russia did this under Obama and this didn’t happen.

We crashed our own economy.  Biden is just blaming it on Putin.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,520]

22 minutes ago, nobody said:

We crashed our own economy.  Biden is just blaming it on Putin.

Yup.  Wagging the dog. At least no one is buying it. Cept the retards. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Biden attacks his own diplomats for pro-Ukraine rhetoric.  Interesting.  I suppose Biden's plan is if Russia wins, Biden will throw all these advisors and diplomats under the bus, claiming they oversold the endeavor. Anyway, the $40 billion in funds got approved so its "mission accomplished" and they can bilk a godless chunk of that and put it in their pockets now.  So its time to try "land for peace".

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/joe-biden-lloyd-austin-antony-blinken-ukraine/2022/06/16/id/1074751/

 

Biden: Tone Down Rhetoric Supporting Ukraine

 

By Nicole Wells    |   Thursday, 16 June 2022 11:16 AM

When the secretaries of defense and state publicly said the Biden administration wanted the Ukrainians to win in the conflict with Russia, the president "was not happy" and told them to tone down their rhetoric, an administration official told NBC News.

During a joint trip to Kyiv in April, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said the White House wanted Ukraine to win, not simply defend itself, and that the United States' goal was to weaken Russia to the point where another unprovoked invasion would not be possible. Secretary of State Antony Blinken publicly supported those comments.

Both secretaries were conferenced into a call with President Joe Biden on their separate flights out of Poland to discuss the resulting headlines about their remarks.

According to several administration officials familiar with the call, the president thought the secretaries had overstepped in their remarks and was concerned about setting unrealistic expectations and increasing the risk of the U.S. and Russia directly engaging in conflict.

“Biden was not happy when Blinken and Austin talked about winning in Ukraine,” one of the officials said. “He was not happy with the rhetoric.”

Another senior official said that the secretaries said Austin’s comments were misunderstood.

Biden’s initial reaction, however, reflects his administration’s belief that the war is turning into a drawn-out conflict, despite the Ukrainians’ surprising success early on, the officials said.

U.S. officials are increasingly worried that the direction of the war in Ukraine is unsustainable and are privately discussing if Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy should revamp his inflexible public position that no territory will ever be surrendered to Russia as a condition to end the war, according to a group of current and former U.S. officials and European officials.   

When it comes to announcing his red lines on ending the war, some officials would like Zelenskyy to “dial it back a little bit,” one of them said.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,520]

Putin, Zelinsky and the oligarchs are doing fine. Our elites are unaffected. The ones feeling the brunt of all this are the people. Think Hunter cares about the price of gas and the inflation that comes with it? Or the dead Ukrainians?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,520]

If Biden and the rest of the west, who caused all of this, are really serious about helping Ukraine win and not just dragging it out, then they need to get to steppin. Russia is doing what they want now. I have the feeling they are content to just drag it out. That works better for them.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

On 6/15/2022 at 11:58 PM, wiffleball said:

I'm not sure Putin quite gets that there are a number of countries who just itching for a fight. Russia is like the bully who got exposed for being a p****. Now everybody who was ever bullied by him in the past wants a shot.

 

Like I said before, there's a lot of historical anger still built up. And while Russia was s******* the bed, Poland and Germany and most of Eastern Europe got better and better and stronger.

Russia could overrun Ukraine in a blink, but not without officially declaring war.  They can keep it a "special military operation" but that limits the amount of firepower and men they can use.  So instead they are getting chechens etc to help out.

[Baker Boy 1,704]

On 6/16/2022 at 2:25 PM, Pimpadeaux said:

Completely different circumstances. 

The stuff in 2014 was a turf war over small sections of the country, not the full-on invasion we've seen here. Russia went straight for the capital and tried to capture Zelenskyy. This has been a full-scale invasion.

Also, Ukraine isn't small in any way. Up until the invasion, it had the seventh-highest population in Europe, which has 48 countries. It has the second-highest land mass in Europe, second only to Russia. It's the size of Texas.

Our economy hasn't crashed. A bear market is on, and inflation is high, but COVID played a big role in that. The stock market plunged this week because of the giant federal rate hike, which was done to confront inflation.

Sanctions on Russia and Russia's response have jacked up economies worldwide.

Considering the shocking weakening of the Russian military thanks to Ukraine and outside equipment help, America is going to come out a big winner in the end. 

The Russian military has been exposed for the POS that it is, and I can't imagine how this will all play out back at home. 

Don’t be afraid to see what you see.

There is something about understanding that can comfort you, even if you don’t like what you understand.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,520]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Don’t be Friday to see what you see.

There is something about understanding that can comfort you, even if you don’t like what you understand.

He’s a homer. 

[Voltaire 5,341]

I'm still giving Russia the edge right now.

Things are still playing out but the quagmire phase setting in has Russia looking like they've successfully swiped the large oil and gas fields in Dumbass and consolidated Crimea while Ukraine appears to be running out of the ability and outside assistance to unlodge them. Things could change if/when Ukraine scores a clear win. They apparently are struggling to grasp how to use the high grade equipment the west has sent them.  

[wiffleball 4,790]

57 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

Russia could overrun Ukraine in a blink, but not without officially declaring war.  They can keep it a "special military operation" but that limits the amount of firepower and men they can use.  So instead they are getting chechens etc to help out.

What or who specifically is limiting  their resource allocation?

[Baker Boy 1,704]

Quote

Germany will restart coal-fired power plants and offer incentives for companies to curb natural gas consumption, marking a new step in the economic war between Europe and Russia.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/germany-measures-conserve-gas-russia-slows-supply-europe

[Hardcore troubadour 15,520]

34 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

What or who specifically is limiting  their resource allocation?

Desire

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Ukrainians are losing up to 1000 soldiers per day, per the Kiev Independent.

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

6 hours ago, JustinCharge said:

Ukrainians are losing up to 1000 soldiers per day, per the Kiev Independent.

 

rusty will get a chubbie hearing this.

[Utilit99 4,099]

12 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

rusty will get a chubbie hearing this.

Ukrainians are kicking ass per rusty.